It's an interesting thought. Most of us think there are 8 billion people on earth because "they" say so. I have never seen these 8 billion people myself. I believe it to be either less or more
>Why do NPCs love these movies so much?
it's difficult to shoehorn wokeness in movies where the mc is shooting most of thetime
and i think that's basically it.
It boggles the mind that people can take Keanu Reeves seriously as "le badass action hero". In the Matrix series it's only believable because he downloads martial arts and weapons skills into his brain.
Keanu got into guns IRL though after the Matrix and is at a competition shooter level. He's probably one of if not the only actor that isn't being completely scripted through his gun play. He has a quick split time, he's fast on his reloads. Hell of a lot better than the usual lot who don't understand how sight alignment works or have bottomless magazines.
>first one has a simple plot while hinting at a larger world and well choreographed action >second/third one expands on the world in an interesting way
They blend together but as far as dumb action movies go they're fine. I'd rather sit through all the John Wick movies back to back than watch one Fast & Furious movie.
>second/third one expands on the world in an interesting way
No it doesn't.
Even the first one already went a bit too far into capeshit when it came to the that part.
Second and third ones are just indistinguishable from marvel movies.
Third one has some terrible looking shit. Like him doing some horse stunts and falling off a building. It's fun to watch one time. But they're greatly overrated, yes.
The sequels kind of miss the whole point of the first movie. In the first one, John Wick is this legendary assassin that even the bad guys are afraid of and just hearing his name has them shit their pants. In the sequels, now he's suddenly always the underdog, always banged up and a walking corpse from injuries and all of his colleagues are going after him to collect the bounty without a shred of fear. They completely ruined the unique premise of the first movie.
>now he's suddenly always the underdog, always banged up and a walking corpse
Are we watching the same movies? Sure John gets banged up, but everyone who faces him ends up fricking dead. A few bruises and cuts mean nothing when the other guy is dead. Furthermore, the kind of injuries he gets would cripple a normal man. He's unstoppable.
yeah but the sequels do a shit job at showing that John is actually the superior assassin and feared for his skills. He barely ends up winning, just like any other hero in a hollywood movie ends up winning after a hard fought, scrappy battle because the plot demands for him to win. The action is following the Rocky formula now, which wasn't the case in the first movie, until he got badly injured at the end.
The sequels kind of miss the whole point of the first movie. In the first one, John Wick is this legendary assassin that even the bad guys are afraid of and just hearing his name has them shit their pants. In the sequels, now he's suddenly always the underdog, always banged up and a walking corpse from injuries and all of his colleagues are going after him to collect the bounty without a shred of fear. They completely ruined the unique premise of the first movie.
I think that adds to the realism and is part of the reason why i think the choreographed fight scenes are so well done. There's no flashy annoying as frick cut editing. Just long shots of two men fighting to the death. It's unpolished, they trip, stumble, receive blows, miss hard hits. They actually seem fricking exhausted towards the end which is a much better alternative.
I wouldn't want him to just be a perfect killing machine that blocks every hit and nails every punch. That's just cheesy to me, idk just my opinion.
i always thought these movies were meant to be parodies in a way of the action movie-type, they even have the over the top action bubbles and melodramatic subtitles and music cues. the thing that really makes it for me is the combination of this and the absurd moments like killing fatty and it takes several shots to the head or them having a "silenced pistol" fight in a crowded NYC metro station. it's got a very surreal, bizarre mixture of fantastical and real life brutality in both the literal on screen elements and in the story and characters. it's like a larger than life retelling or a comic book, excluding the sentiment of lesser, base capeshit of course
my one wish is that they went practical with the blood and gore. why get keanu out on a fricking range with live ammunition popping adderal to get his target acquisition and fire speed times improved so he can make a better show of the gunplay just to have cheap digital blood? it's already a strange mixture of older action movies and new age design, why would they not also ape the gritty practical effects?
I wouldn't say they are parodies, but they are definitely self aware and don't take themselves too seriously. I think that's a major factor in its charm, it's not a super serious mission impossible or James Bond movie. It has a lot of humorous elements sprinkled throughout that you touched on. The over the top subtitles, the cheesy dialogue and characters.
I agree I think it would be a lot better with practical effects and it is disappointing but understandable they went with CGI.
My main takeaways from the movies is that they're just fun. They aren't boring ( although the pacing slows a bit at different points throughout) The choreography is probably my favorite, that coupled with the nice steady long shots which are rare in action movies nowadays.
he's been working his way up, but yes a bit more fear from his targets would be nice, you can say they are putting on a front, and they are but you could see it a bit more
Even the first film had people willing to try him though. A giant bounty on a guy who just came out of retirement who won't get a break from fighting is worth an attempt if you think you have great skills or a good angle. They still portray him as an unstoppable killing force so idk what more you'd want.
>They completely ruined the unique premise of the first movie.
Doesn't John gets praised by the ninja guys in JW3, saying that's an honour to fight him? Even the bald ninja boss shows him respect and is like "well, at least i got killed by THE John Wick"
I think John Wick may be to high IQ for you, stick to marvel slop. The characters are bound by the rules, John broke the rules, so he was hunted. Even John Wick, a great assassin is still just a pawn to the high table. Not sure how you missed this world building.
Some Russian stomped on it. Or was it Belarus? The whole thing was meant as a joke anyway: Stories in action movies are just there as an excuse to watch some exciting action. First one made light of that by a guy going on a killing spree because of his dead dog.
The only real action movie franchise in existence, mediocre as they are. They remind people of a better time in film, when movie stars existed and action scenes had real people and blood and guns instead of cgi cartoon lasers in them.
>The only real action movie franchise in existence, mediocre as they are. They remind people of a better time in film, when movie stars existed and action scenes had real people and blood and guns instead of cgi cartoon lasers in them.
Pretty much this. There ain't exactly many options since capeshit essentially devoured the action genre.
they usually alternate hand-to-hand combat with gunfight, which prevents them from using old-school fake blood capsules that could burst prematurely.
old movies usually cut to show a close-up of the capsule exploding to avoid this, but John Wick is all about continuous shots filmed from the distance.
I just can’t take Keanue seriously as an action movie star. He’s too frumpy. Where are his muscles? Why doesn’t he get a nice hair cut? Why is his outfit a boring black suit and not something interesting?
What was the point of the 3rd one
It just loops but now a few characters changed places
Should've just ended as a trilogy instead of pumping out John Wick 92 in Space
Look at her here, at age 53. She knows what she was doing when she put that on. Distracting the entire room with her leg game. All the guys trying their best not to look.
They're well made and entertaining action movies with no woke bullshit. If you don't like them, you either don't like action movies or you're just a tryhard contrarian.
It's unapologetic in delivering what we want. Just like fast and the furious they have embraced the absurdity of it. "Oh we fought a submarine what's next? Space??" Guess what they in space. It's not too bogged down with female empowerment or minority baiting. It's a watch once laugh at it and move on. Shit like Jurassic world dominion failed at this.
Because I love B grade action films where it's just people getting shot. I unironically believe they're the best films. No plot that takes itself seriously, endlessly rewatchable and entertaining. I can walk into a room sit down when Predator or Die Hard is on and watch the entire thing to the end and still be entertained even though I've seen them so many times. Same thing with John Wick.
I feel that Keanu Reeves have the career Bruce Lee's son, Brandon Lee, would have.
He's the white looking guy that seems oddly Asian and thus it just seem proper that he'd star all these movies where he gets to do kung fu and kick ass.
Reeves is also looking more and more like an old Chinese fellow too.
I like the first two (3 felt more action but blander). Keanu just seems bored in this one, seriously he sounds like Biden with the weird tone of “where am I again”. He also sounds as bored as when he was in Cyberpunk as well. Probably would be good action since he isn’t that bad of a actor, but the dialogue is going to be nearly as bad as The Room
They're fooled by the 60's Batman Tier choreography where waves of bad guys wait just offscreen only to rush John Wick one by one and get killed in close quarters despite having guns
One of my favorite things in all 3 movies is in the 2nd one, they paint Ruby Rose as this bad ass assassin chick the whole movie but when Wick finally fights her at the end he ends her in like a minute. You don't usually see that type of subversion these days.
If Star Wars can have 9+ episodes and endless TV shows, literally anybody, especially: 'oof it's Neo' can have it. What's worse than these movies is being obsessed to a point where you have to post threads on Cinemaphile to covertly advertise for this crap!
The first one is a perfectly solid revenge action flick, and self-contained if you want it to be. Generally worth watching IMO. The second one is a decent sequel, more of the same but in different locations. If you liked the original, you'll probably dig this too, cliffhanger and all. The third one is where shit gets too crazy, both in terms of plot and fully shifting things into a franchise. Good place to drop out.
Him and Cruise are the last big action heroes of their era. Appreciate that they exist because it's all twinks and gays and girl power from here on out.
Its mindless action fun where the characters in-story arent breaking the 4th wall, quipping every 20 seconds or pushing THE MESSAGE to the viewer.
In the 80s/90s John wick would be seen as a mediocre film in a sea of action super blockbusters. These days people are so starved for them that they'll take anything they can get.
Also theres something to be said about the character John wick essentially just being an american James bond, the unkillable man a Master of all trades and a dangerous killer. Typical male fantasy shit.
Vaxbrain syndrome.
>8 billion people
that's like 0.02% of the population maybe less
>He thinks the world's population is actually 8 billion
Lmao
How much is it then
4 billion
And half of that is Asia
They added an extra four billies to trick NPC cattle into not breeding because of muh overpopulation
Take your meds. NOW!
have you ever counted all of the people on earth? No? then how could you possibly know?
They probably should be dealt with, there's not enough land to walk on anymore with out getting screamed at for going on "private property"
It's an interesting thought. Most of us think there are 8 billion people on earth because "they" say so. I have never seen these 8 billion people myself. I believe it to be either less or more
>NPC cattle into not breeding
yeah because otherwise there would be 8 billion people moron
200, maybe 300
Bout 3,50
We need to stop having kids chud
I'M ABOUT TO CUM
>Why do NPCs love these movies so much?
it's difficult to shoehorn wokeness in movies where the mc is shooting most of thetime
and i think that's basically it.
> John Wick 3 made 325 million.
They're not as popular as you think.
To be fair that's exceptional for an r rated movie
It boggles the mind that people can take Keanu Reeves seriously as "le badass action hero". In the Matrix series it's only believable because he downloads martial arts and weapons skills into his brain.
Keanu got into guns IRL though after the Matrix and is at a competition shooter level. He's probably one of if not the only actor that isn't being completely scripted through his gun play. He has a quick split time, he's fast on his reloads. Hell of a lot better than the usual lot who don't understand how sight alignment works or have bottomless magazines.
>first one has a simple plot while hinting at a larger world and well choreographed action
>second/third one expands on the world in an interesting way
They blend together but as far as dumb action movies go they're fine. I'd rather sit through all the John Wick movies back to back than watch one Fast & Furious movie.
>in an interesting way
it was fricking moronic
>second/third one expands on the world in an interesting way
No it doesn't.
Even the first one already went a bit too far into capeshit when it came to the that part.
Second and third ones are just indistinguishable from marvel movies.
>Second and third ones are just indistinguishable from marvel movies.
You homosexuals just hate hong kong movies is all.
>than watch one Fast & Furious movie.
tokyo drift was nice, probably the best of the franchise.
those movies are fricking awful and your taste is shit
They're too young to remember eighties and nineties action movies.
Is 3 good? 2 went off the deep end.
3 was a lot of fun, great final set piece
Third one has some terrible looking shit. Like him doing some horse stunts and falling off a building. It's fun to watch one time. But they're greatly overrated, yes.
The ending is so fricking moronic that you have to wonder if they did it on purpose to see how dumb they could make it and still get away with it
the hotel fight or the ending? because the hotel fight was great fun
Every action scene with Halle Berry is shit.
First 15min of 3 is good, middle is bad, ending is moronic but good
It left the deep end to go to a dedicated SCUBA training pool
The action is solid, but the plot jumps the shark something fierce. Enough to really kill my interest in future movies.
>multiple people with a presumed IQ of >80 thought this scene was ok to put in a movie
John wick is this generations the matrix . You had your time and now it's ours. Bet this is better than matrix 4 too.
The sequels kind of miss the whole point of the first movie. In the first one, John Wick is this legendary assassin that even the bad guys are afraid of and just hearing his name has them shit their pants. In the sequels, now he's suddenly always the underdog, always banged up and a walking corpse from injuries and all of his colleagues are going after him to collect the bounty without a shred of fear. They completely ruined the unique premise of the first movie.
>now he's suddenly always the underdog, always banged up and a walking corpse
Are we watching the same movies? Sure John gets banged up, but everyone who faces him ends up fricking dead. A few bruises and cuts mean nothing when the other guy is dead. Furthermore, the kind of injuries he gets would cripple a normal man. He's unstoppable.
yeah but the sequels do a shit job at showing that John is actually the superior assassin and feared for his skills. He barely ends up winning, just like any other hero in a hollywood movie ends up winning after a hard fought, scrappy battle because the plot demands for him to win. The action is following the Rocky formula now, which wasn't the case in the first movie, until he got badly injured at the end.
This is a good point
I think that adds to the realism and is part of the reason why i think the choreographed fight scenes are so well done. There's no flashy annoying as frick cut editing. Just long shots of two men fighting to the death. It's unpolished, they trip, stumble, receive blows, miss hard hits. They actually seem fricking exhausted towards the end which is a much better alternative.
I wouldn't want him to just be a perfect killing machine that blocks every hit and nails every punch. That's just cheesy to me, idk just my opinion.
i always thought these movies were meant to be parodies in a way of the action movie-type, they even have the over the top action bubbles and melodramatic subtitles and music cues. the thing that really makes it for me is the combination of this and the absurd moments like killing fatty and it takes several shots to the head or them having a "silenced pistol" fight in a crowded NYC metro station. it's got a very surreal, bizarre mixture of fantastical and real life brutality in both the literal on screen elements and in the story and characters. it's like a larger than life retelling or a comic book, excluding the sentiment of lesser, base capeshit of course
my one wish is that they went practical with the blood and gore. why get keanu out on a fricking range with live ammunition popping adderal to get his target acquisition and fire speed times improved so he can make a better show of the gunplay just to have cheap digital blood? it's already a strange mixture of older action movies and new age design, why would they not also ape the gritty practical effects?
I wouldn't say they are parodies, but they are definitely self aware and don't take themselves too seriously. I think that's a major factor in its charm, it's not a super serious mission impossible or James Bond movie. It has a lot of humorous elements sprinkled throughout that you touched on. The over the top subtitles, the cheesy dialogue and characters.
I agree I think it would be a lot better with practical effects and it is disappointing but understandable they went with CGI.
My main takeaways from the movies is that they're just fun. They aren't boring ( although the pacing slows a bit at different points throughout) The choreography is probably my favorite, that coupled with the nice steady long shots which are rare in action movies nowadays.
he's been working his way up, but yes a bit more fear from his targets would be nice, you can say they are putting on a front, and they are but you could see it a bit more
Even the first film had people willing to try him though. A giant bounty on a guy who just came out of retirement who won't get a break from fighting is worth an attempt if you think you have great skills or a good angle. They still portray him as an unstoppable killing force so idk what more you'd want.
>They completely ruined the unique premise of the first movie.
Doesn't John gets praised by the ninja guys in JW3, saying that's an honour to fight him? Even the bald ninja boss shows him respect and is like "well, at least i got killed by THE John Wick"
I think John Wick may be to high IQ for you, stick to marvel slop. The characters are bound by the rules, John broke the rules, so he was hunted. Even John Wick, a great assassin is still just a pawn to the high table. Not sure how you missed this world building.
I cant even remember how his dog died.
Shot?
theon shot him and stole his car
Some Russian stomped on it. Or was it Belarus? The whole thing was meant as a joke anyway: Stories in action movies are just there as an excuse to watch some exciting action. First one made light of that by a guy going on a killing spree because of his dead dog.
The only real action movie franchise in existence, mediocre as they are. They remind people of a better time in film, when movie stars existed and action scenes had real people and blood and guns instead of cgi cartoon lasers in them.
>what is mission impossible
>The only real action movie franchise in existence, mediocre as they are. They remind people of a better time in film, when movie stars existed and action scenes had real people and blood and guns instead of cgi cartoon lasers in them.
Pretty much this. There ain't exactly many options since capeshit essentially devoured the action genre.
Except John Wick is all CGI blood, to the point where it knocks off a solid point.
Sure but cgi blood is better than nothing. This is the level we are at now. We live in squalor.
>Except John Wick is all CGI blood, to the point where it knocks off a solid point.
Well with homosexuals like Alec baldwin cgi blood is here to stay.
they usually alternate hand-to-hand combat with gunfight, which prevents them from using old-school fake blood capsules that could burst prematurely.
old movies usually cut to show a close-up of the capsule exploding to avoid this, but John Wick is all about continuous shots filmed from the distance.
I just can’t take Keanue seriously as an action movie star. He’s too frumpy. Where are his muscles? Why doesn’t he get a nice hair cut? Why is his outfit a boring black suit and not something interesting?
Has Keanu ever done a film where you could say he actually did some convincing acting?
All I can recall is Devils Advocate
Bill and Ted trilogy.
He has to fit the role. That doesn't mean he hasn't been in movies that don't have staying power.
Its not high art but Speed
Constantine maybe?
>Speed
>Constantine
>Point Break
>The Matrix
Compare that to Marky Mark, who also only has one character. But even he made
>Basketball Diaries
>Pain & Gain
>Ted
Can't put them in the same tier, but you know what I mean
He was actually great in Constantine
who cares? Go watch leo act like a homosexual for an oscar twenty times.
point break
>I AM AN F-B-I AGENT!!!
I don't know why this is in Keanu's compilation of bad acting. I thought that was a pretty good line reading. He wanted to hammer it down.
I've never watched any of these movies and never will. Constantine was kino though
damn bro. You are so cool
Your loss
They're fun moives
What was the point of the 3rd one
It just loops but now a few characters changed places
Should've just ended as a trilogy instead of pumping out John Wick 92 in Space
Too bad Halle was already post wall when she spat in Keanu's drinking bottle.
>post wall
still would till my dick fell off, she looks incredible for her age
Look at her here, at age 53. She knows what she was doing when she put that on. Distracting the entire room with her leg game. All the guys trying their best not to look.
she looks better than a lot of 35-40 year olds
>Went to see Flintstones movie as a kid
>This scene happens
>In a kids film
GOD DAMN
She was hot in 'Bullsworth' too.
>'Bullsworth
I cannot tell if that movie was cringe or good. But halle was a 10/10 in that for sure.
The fact that you find that attractive is embarrassing. Sort your life out.
>What was the point of the 3rd one?
The fight at the start
The fight at the end
I dont know, joh wicks are the most mundane boring by the numbers hitman movie one could make.
Because it's better than avatar 2
NOOOO you cant just enjoy simple action movies that were all the craze once, there's barely any politics involved!
They're well made and entertaining action movies with no woke bullshit. If you don't like them, you either don't like action movies or you're just a tryhard contrarian.
It's unapologetic in delivering what we want. Just like fast and the furious they have embraced the absurdity of it. "Oh we fought a submarine what's next? Space??" Guess what they in space. It's not too bogged down with female empowerment or minority baiting. It's a watch once laugh at it and move on. Shit like Jurassic world dominion failed at this.
>people can't turn their brain off to enjoy a dumb action movie
>Why do NPCs love these movies so much?
Your answer lies within your question.
Because I love B grade action films where it's just people getting shot. I unironically believe they're the best films. No plot that takes itself seriously, endlessly rewatchable and entertaining. I can walk into a room sit down when Predator or Die Hard is on and watch the entire thing to the end and still be entertained even though I've seen them so many times. Same thing with John Wick.
These are the best type of movies and have the most rewatchability. I miss the mid budget 90min movies that used to get pumped out in the 80s-90s.
only good franchise of the 2010's
I feel that Keanu Reeves have the career Bruce Lee's son, Brandon Lee, would have.
He's the white looking guy that seems oddly Asian and thus it just seem proper that he'd star all these movies where he gets to do kung fu and kick ass.
Reeves is also looking more and more like an old Chinese fellow too.
Because they're fun action movies.
it having donnie yen means its gonna be kino
I like the first two (3 felt more action but blander). Keanu just seems bored in this one, seriously he sounds like Biden with the weird tone of “where am I again”. He also sounds as bored as when he was in Cyberpunk as well. Probably would be good action since he isn’t that bad of a actor, but the dialogue is going to be nearly as bad as The Room
They're fooled by the 60's Batman Tier choreography where waves of bad guys wait just offscreen only to rush John Wick one by one and get killed in close quarters despite having guns
2>1>3
Dog fetish
Why do people hate the dog scenes with halle? I thought they were well done unique.
I still didn't watch 2 and 3 despite downloading it few years ago
Which action movies do you prefer?
People instinctively crave 'rolling your eyes non-woke' movies
>rolling your eyes non-woke
What the frick does this even mean?
shooting people with a gun is not progressive, specially if you aren't black
r*ddit told them to like it, so they did
One of my favorite things in all 3 movies is in the 2nd one, they paint Ruby Rose as this bad ass assassin chick the whole movie but when Wick finally fights her at the end he ends her in like a minute. You don't usually see that type of subversion these days.
>but when Wick finally fights her at the end he ends her in like a minute
surviving one minute of bullet holes in your body is a lot
She got stabbed with her own knife.
I'll probably check how pozzed this one is before watching since 3 was pozzed
If Star Wars can have 9+ episodes and endless TV shows, literally anybody, especially: 'oof it's Neo' can have it. What's worse than these movies is being obsessed to a point where you have to post threads on Cinemaphile to covertly advertise for this crap!
JW 1 is Kino
JW2 to 4 are all the same video game style movie. He faces final bosses and his minions.
At least they are entertainment.
The first one is a perfectly solid revenge action flick, and self-contained if you want it to be. Generally worth watching IMO. The second one is a decent sequel, more of the same but in different locations. If you liked the original, you'll probably dig this too, cliffhanger and all. The third one is where shit gets too crazy, both in terms of plot and fully shifting things into a franchise. Good place to drop out.
Electric israelite recieved massive funding from the Gun Lobby. Sales spiked on Banshee, Kimber and Remington.
i liked all 3 cant wait for the fourth, stay mad fun hating bald Black folk
they have cool fights
whats hard to understand you dumb Black person
Because "le hecking meme actor, le doge man xD"
Let's ignore that Keanu murdered his wife
>Let's ignore that Keanu murdered his wife
explain, in the movie or in real life?
india, china, pakistan, cultural wastelands, sucking on the teet of the western israeli media apparatus
Because they're just pure R rated action films not PG-13 Comic book shit.
Him and Cruise are the last big action heroes of their era. Appreciate that they exist because it's all twinks and gays and girl power from here on out.
>Him and Cruise are the last big action heroes of their era.
Add Liam neason to that list.
Impressive wiener.
Its mindless action fun where the characters in-story arent breaking the 4th wall, quipping every 20 seconds or pushing THE MESSAGE to the viewer.
In the 80s/90s John wick would be seen as a mediocre film in a sea of action super blockbusters. These days people are so starved for them that they'll take anything they can get.
Also theres something to be said about the character John wick essentially just being an american James bond, the unkillable man a Master of all trades and a dangerous killer. Typical male fantasy shit.