It cost around $400,000,000 to market and produce so technically they’re -240,000,000 which means I have significantly more money than that. Nice cope though nagger 😉
>>L-LET’S SEE YOU DO BETTER, CHUD! >Come on, this is 11 year old girl-tier reasoning.
It's because the majority of woke shit is pushed by women with Daddy issues and angry dykes who hate men and never developed emotionally beyond grade school, so for them name calling is all they care about because they're low I.Q. subhumans!!!FACT!!!
By the end of this, Marvels will have lost more than the combined total of 100 individual American lifetimes of productivity. As long as I don't manage to lose $200,000,000 I will have made more than The Marvels. Feels good bros.
That's 160 million more than you'll ever make, /misc/tard
the box office isn't what the studio makes, try half that after the theatres get their cut, so it made Disney 80 million, and cost 300+ million to make, and that's without advertising costs, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up costing Disney a cool half billion.
The first Captain Marvel movie had made $164 million worldwide by its 4th day out.
it went on to make over a billion dollars. There is almost never a sequel to such a successful movie that has this much of a precipitous drop in viewership.
normies gobble up movies with attractive leads. nobody is paying for walled up brie, the ugly pajeet chick and the negress. if they had replaced the latter two with normal looking people the movie legit would have made the usual half million plus
in the 2020-2023 period mcu had more hours of content than they did in the 2008-2019 period. half of which was not well received by the audiences.
this movie is both not good and also paying for all the mistakes of the last 3 years
It's so weird.
After End Game it was obvious that the correct move was to slow down MCU content, but someone somehow thought it was a good idea to ramp up instead.
they needed content for disney+ so they started pumping out tv shows and for a while it worked because there was subscriber boom during the pandemic, but now that's over and people are tired of it
It’s more that no one watched the shows and now they’re tying movies too them. A mistake they made with the intro of the second avengers movie being a “season finale” or whatever to agents of shield, which also no one watched. So in the context of the pre-disney movies, hydra going from being a covert/subversive espionage network within other power structures to having pewpew laser castles was a massive misstep. Now they’ve released two more movies (strange 2, this) that assume you watched two of the streaming shows. Even gotg3 suffered from being tied to endgame, not to mention “the Christmas special.” A mistake they’re now scrambling to correct with black captain america
Which is all to say, no, “franchise fatigues” is not a real concept. People don’t get tired of good movies.
Long-term planning is both a strength and weakness of interconnected universes. Having a plan and sticking to it means you don't overcorrect when Thor 2 is received tepidly like the way Warner Brothers did with, well...everything.
But the flip side of that is you better be damn sure your plan is the correct one because you're committed to it and if it goes off the rails the whole train goes with it. You might have to make black panther 2 even if there is no black panther because if you don't it compromises all you other plans. You might have to make a big-budget blockbuster starring a character whose tv show bombed because by the time you realized it was a bomb you were already committed to a release date. And you can't just hard pivot away in a month or two like they do in the comics when shit goes wrong because development cycles take years. Which is why betting it all on such shaky premises was suicidal. It was like going all-in with pocket 5's.
It literally is the lowest box office of any MCU release as of yet. It is underperforming the numbers set by the Incredible Hulk, which used to be the lowest one and it is underperforming the Flash, which is DCs biggest flop.
I spoke to 15 people today, completely unconnected with one another, who each independently told me that they plan to see the Marvels as a Thanksgiving weekend outing. It’s extremely obvious that most moviegoers are doing so. We can expect to see the third weekend double opening.
>The mailman >My neighbor >A man at the bus stop >The bus driver >A woman on the bus >A man in line at the coffee shop >The barista >The homeless man who lives in front of the coffee shop >The security guard at my office >The receptionist >My office mate >My boss >The deli owner around the corner from our office >A fellow customer >My barber
Each of these people told me unprompted that theyd be seeing The Marvels this weekend.
Solo made 400m and was considered a big enough disaster to completely change Disney's plans for Star Wars movies. This will make half that, so what impact will it have?
It's actually true though, it's the new Marvel blockbuster, in terms of star power, artistic merit and cultural inpact it's absolutely fair to describe it as such.
Puffery is fully expected in the world of advertisement. Remember how a random coffee shop will claim they have the best coffee in the world? It is obviously not true, but it is legal because the meaning of "best" is unquantifiable by any objective metric. Similarly, "the number one movie in the world" could mean virtually anything. The viewer is left to assume what it means, so as a result marketing is built around outlandish claims.
John Carter and The Lone Rangers are considered two of the biggest box office bombs in the history of Hollywood. The both had a production budget similar to The Marvels ($230-$260 million).
John Carter grossed $285 million worldwide.
The Lone Rangers grossed $260 million worldwide.
Let that sink in.
>The Lone Ranger grossed $293.2 million worldwide against a production budget of $215 million >Adjusted for inflation, the movie’s worldwide gross is approximately $334.5 million
Smaller budget than The Marvels and has generally been considered one of the biggest bombs of all time. The Marvels is coming in much lower. Oof
If it limps its way to 200 million its gross will be 1/5th of what the first Captain Marvel made. Has there ever been a sequel that dropped 80% relative to the first film?
Jimmy Carter from Mars and Forgettoland flopping cancels the TR3N. Pixar directors can't into live action. >pic related this is what they took from you
>There are people right now who think the X-Men will save the MCU
lol you reall want the X-Men made by modern Disney? You really think they're not going to be extremely heavy handed with the social commentary when handling the muties? Be careful what you wish for
The MCU has been going for FIFTEEN YEARS, disregarding all other factors, did they really think they could pump out 3-5 movies a year and still pull in billions every year without the casuals losing interest?
The movie has a 79% second weekend drop. That’s got to be a record. And those praising 160 million. The Flash made 270.6 million worldwide and is considered the biggest bomb in comic history. No wat Marvels will make 270.
That's 160 million more than you'll ever make, /misc/tard
It cost around $400,000,000 to market and produce so technically they’re -240,000,000 which means I have significantly more money than that. Nice cope though nagger 😉
It's more like -$320 million considering disney is only getting 50% of ticket revenue
no it only cost 100 000 to make. i'm statistical expert so i know my shit
Nigga, it hasn't made a fucking cent yet. They didn't produce and market the movie for free.
>L-LET’S SEE YOU DO BETTER, CHUD!
Come on, this is 11 year old girl-tier reasoning.
>>L-LET’S SEE YOU DO BETTER, CHUD!
>Come on, this is 11 year old girl-tier reasoning.
It's because the majority of woke shit is pushed by women with Daddy issues and angry dykes who hate men and never developed emotionally beyond grade school, so for them name calling is all they care about because they're low I.Q. subhumans!!!FACT!!!
By the end of this, Marvels will have lost more than the combined total of 100 individual American lifetimes of productivity. As long as I don't manage to lose $200,000,000 I will have made more than The Marvels. Feels good bros.
Seek meds
>retarded take
>spergs out about /misc/ unprompted
kek every time
How does it feel to have /misc/ living rent free in your head?
how does it feel to be a retard that replies to very obvious bait?
>Weekend #BoxOffice Est. - Australia
1. #TheHungerGames - $5.06M
2. #TheMarvels - $1.16M
3. #FiveNightsAtFreddysMovie #FNAF - $677k
>Weekend #BoxOffice Est. - New Zealand
1. #TheHungerGames - $1.03M
2. #TheMarvels - $281k
3. #Tiger3 - $192k
>Estimated Weekend #BoxOffice Top 7 for Nov. 17 - Nov. 19, 2023
1. #TheHungerGames - $44.00M
2. #TrollsBandTogether - $30.60M / $31.77M
3. #Thanksgiving - $10.20M
3. #TheMarvels - $10.20M
5. #FiveNightsAtFreddys - $3.50M
6. #TheHoldovers - $2.70M
7. #NextGoalWins - $2.50M
>#Tiger3 - $192k
Does New Zealand have a lot of Indians or something?
Most movies don't make 160m during their theatrical runs
Most movies don't cost 220 mil not counting marketing costs
the box office isn't what the studio makes, try half that after the theatres get their cut, so it made Disney 80 million, and cost 300+ million to make, and that's without advertising costs, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up costing Disney a cool half billion.
The first Captain Marvel movie had made $164 million worldwide by its 4th day out.
it went on to make over a billion dollars. There is almost never a sequel to such a successful movie that has this much of a precipitous drop in viewership.
It's dead. Its run is virtually finished, ifrom now in it'd just fester at empty theaters
Budget: $215m
Box Office: $160m in just one week
Brie chads keep on winning
That’s without counting marketing
They don’t get all the box office money
So movie theaters don't take a cut of that and just show movies for charity?
For Brie, most theaters make an exception, she has a special deal
Imagine investing this much of your life's emotional energy into hating marvelshit.
Who's emotionally invested into Marvel, retard?
If this movie succeeds we will keep getting kino and this is the only thing that matters
Y'all should stop rooting against it
Lmao dude's so angry defending Marvel that he didn't even read and attacked his shill friend
>LE TRANNNY SHILL
I haven't seen a marvel production since endgame
You have brainrot
Yeah, right
>Watched Endgame
you dumb homosexual.
Bad bait, kill yourself
Imagine spending energy to go into threads and shill for the mouse FO FREE.
Capeslop is done. We’re in the vidya renaissance era now.
Third weekenders will save it.
>gentle knowing nod
Every time Rian opens his stupid mouth I just get more and more reaffirmed in my belief that he was bullied in high school
I'm impressed
I can't believe it did this well.
It's actually pretty impressive that it did this badly. Why is that, usually marvel drones gorge this slop with a smile
Brie is box office poison. Imagine if this crap had performed better with just Kamala.
Disney ran out of slush funds so couldn't pay off reviewers to suck off their shit movies anymore
normies gobble up movies with attractive leads. nobody is paying for walled up brie, the ugly pajeet chick and the negress. if they had replaced the latter two with normal looking people the movie legit would have made the usual half million plus
in the 2020-2023 period mcu had more hours of content than they did in the 2008-2019 period. half of which was not well received by the audiences.
this movie is both not good and also paying for all the mistakes of the last 3 years
It's so weird.
After End Game it was obvious that the correct move was to slow down MCU content, but someone somehow thought it was a good idea to ramp up instead.
they needed content for disney+ so they started pumping out tv shows and for a while it worked because there was subscriber boom during the pandemic, but now that's over and people are tired of it
and now both ended up as money sinks anyway
It’s more that no one watched the shows and now they’re tying movies too them. A mistake they made with the intro of the second avengers movie being a “season finale” or whatever to agents of shield, which also no one watched. So in the context of the pre-disney movies, hydra going from being a covert/subversive espionage network within other power structures to having pewpew laser castles was a massive misstep. Now they’ve released two more movies (strange 2, this) that assume you watched two of the streaming shows. Even gotg3 suffered from being tied to endgame, not to mention “the Christmas special.” A mistake they’re now scrambling to correct with black captain america
Which is all to say, no, “franchise fatigues” is not a real concept. People don’t get tired of good movies.
Long-term planning is both a strength and weakness of interconnected universes. Having a plan and sticking to it means you don't overcorrect when Thor 2 is received tepidly like the way Warner Brothers did with, well...everything.
But the flip side of that is you better be damn sure your plan is the correct one because you're committed to it and if it goes off the rails the whole train goes with it. You might have to make black panther 2 even if there is no black panther because if you don't it compromises all you other plans. You might have to make a big-budget blockbuster starring a character whose tv show bombed because by the time you realized it was a bomb you were already committed to a release date. And you can't just hard pivot away in a month or two like they do in the comics when shit goes wrong because development cycles take years. Which is why betting it all on such shaky premises was suicidal. It was like going all-in with pocket 5's.
This movie has ridiculous legs and will be a sleeper hit/cult classic. I think we can expect record breaking DVD/Blu Ray sales.
>brie IDF
Reddit pls go this is a board for cool people
I've been here before you and il be here after you die in the car accident
>mobile phone wagie hurriedly typing on his phone in between customers at walmart.
I've been NEET for 13y
35 only 3 months of work my entire life
so the brie simp just admitted hes a 35 year old NEET
interesting
What a disappointment you must be to your parents. What a disappointment you must be to God.
No, this is a board for losers with good taste in movies.
It will go straight into their retarded, money-losing streaming D+. It won't make a single extra dime from it.
160 is a fucking a lot
>beeg number mean did good office box go brrrrrrr
I have an investment for you. You pay me $250 and I'll give you back $160. Don't worry about the money, $160 is a fucking lot. Dipshit.
It literally is the lowest box office of any MCU release as of yet. It is underperforming the numbers set by the Incredible Hulk, which used to be the lowest one and it is underperforming the Flash, which is DCs biggest flop.
It’s not just losing to the Hulk, it’s losing to the Hulk before any “adjusted for inflation” is applied. By raw ticket sales it’s by far the loser
Adjusted for inflation Hulk made $377 million lmfao
I spoke to 15 people today, completely unconnected with one another, who each independently told me that they plan to see the Marvels as a Thanksgiving weekend outing. It’s extremely obvious that most moviegoers are doing so. We can expect to see the third weekend double opening.
Cmon, chuds. This is clearly just a timing thing.
>spoke to 15 people today
tell the truth, you haven't left the house in 3 days
Not him but I did 3 year's.
Also did 6 months without a single word.
It took me 3 days to get my voice back to normal.
>The mailman
>My neighbor
>A man at the bus stop
>The bus driver
>A woman on the bus
>A man in line at the coffee shop
>The barista
>The homeless man who lives in front of the coffee shop
>The security guard at my office
>The receptionist
>My office mate
>My boss
>The deli owner around the corner from our office
>A fellow customer
>My barber
Each of these people told me unprompted that theyd be seeing The Marvels this weekend.
Please kill yourself with great haste
You forgot your wife's kid
There's a line of 849 people outside my local theater, hoping to buy tickets for The Marvels. Expect it to be #1 next weekend.
I was invited to a supplier's event with buffet lunch and a free showing of this shit last Sunday and I chose to stay at home to play video games.
Yeah, we get it, it flopped.
I want (You)s ;(
Cinemaphile is being raided by ugly men in dresses
You mean like this?
More like this
>I'm wheezing bros. I'm howling.
I'm literally screaming rn and it's everything
Solo made 400m and was considered a big enough disaster to completely change Disney's plans for Star Wars movies. This will make half that, so what impact will it have?
the Garfield-spider movies made double that and Sony considered it such an unmitigated disaster that they let Marvel use the character again
.....lol
Wow. Imagine how much more the actors would be worth if the movie made zero
>not the actors' fault
>not the director's fault
>not Disney's fault
it's the audience who is wrong
Brie is as powerful as the real Captain Marvel, she singehandedly destroyed a $30b film franchise
>be me
>watch handegg over weekend
>ad for marvels pop up, honking its the #1 movie in the world
somebody explain this shit to me.
You can just straight up lie in advertisements and get away with it now. Pretty cool, right?
>now
Lol people have been lying in advertisements since advertising was invented
It's actually true though, it's the new Marvel blockbuster, in terms of star power, artistic merit and cultural inpact it's absolutely fair to describe it as such.
What's it like to wake up every morning completely unaware that you're a drooling retard with bad taste
Puffery is fully expected in the world of advertisement. Remember how a random coffee shop will claim they have the best coffee in the world? It is obviously not true, but it is legal because the meaning of "best" is unquantifiable by any objective metric. Similarly, "the number one movie in the world" could mean virtually anything. The viewer is left to assume what it means, so as a result marketing is built around outlandish claims.
>Come see the number 1 biggest flop in movie history!
John Carter and The Lone Rangers are considered two of the biggest box office bombs in the history of Hollywood. The both had a production budget similar to The Marvels ($230-$260 million).
John Carter grossed $285 million worldwide.
The Lone Rangers grossed $260 million worldwide.
Let that sink in.
>The Lone Ranger grossed $293.2 million worldwide against a production budget of $215 million
>Adjusted for inflation, the movie’s worldwide gross is approximately $334.5 million
Smaller budget than The Marvels and has generally been considered one of the biggest bombs of all time. The Marvels is coming in much lower. Oof
>adjusting revenue for inflation but not expenses
I want to pat Ren-chon in the head
You make an excellent point, thank you. I had not previously considered that.
If it limps its way to 200 million its gross will be 1/5th of what the first Captain Marvel made. Has there ever been a sequel that dropped 80% relative to the first film?
Percentage-wise, no. By raw numbers, TLJ is comparable but even that was just because TFA had set such a high mark
Why was John Carter so expensive again?
Filming on Mars ain't cheap.
Jimmy Carter from Mars and Forgettoland flopping cancels the TR3N. Pixar directors can't into live action.
>pic related this is what they took from you
The only good thing about that was some visuals and some of the soundtrack.
it's over
marvel has fallen
a scene with dejah thoris getting railed in the ass would've saved it
on a semi-related note, do we know yet how much did Indiana Jones lose?
It lost at least $100 million
Snow white is gonna be a disaster as well
>D*sney will end in your lifetime
You don't even have to wait for that. Wish is coming to shit the bed
>More men went to see this than women
Is it time we kill men?
>There are people right now who think the X-Men will save the MCU
lol you reall want the X-Men made by modern Disney? You really think they're not going to be extremely heavy handed with the social commentary when handling the muties? Be careful what you wish for
It's because of the ugly poojeta they cast. No one wanted to see her, hence the Mrs. Marvel show having no views.
The MCU has been going for FIFTEEN YEARS, disregarding all other factors, did they really think they could pump out 3-5 movies a year and still pull in billions every year without the casuals losing interest?
Yeah they really did
The movie has a 79% second weekend drop. That’s got to be a record. And those praising 160 million. The Flash made 270.6 million worldwide and is considered the biggest bomb in comic history. No wat Marvels will make 270.
>That’s got to be a record
It is. It took the record from Steel which was 78%