The novel? Very Chinese in terms of characters has some whites nobody else matters. The tv show is going to be very diverse so you are trading Chinese for blacks and Indians probably.
the first episode literally used the book as a script. It’s a line for line adaptation. Seriously, follow along with the book and it’s exactly the same. What more did you want?
This isn't a line by line adaption but it's scifi so mostly shit characters with kino ideas is expected. I can't tell if it's going to be better or worse. The second novels really has a shit arc at the start.
Wang Miao, seems like he's been replaced by a group of people from various countries
Which doesn't matter he doesn't really do anything an isn't that interesting.
Never read the books, judign by the summary they seem to be a dumb, nihilistic, character-focussed story that eventually completely goes off the rails.
Why the hype?
It's "hard" scifi what character focused, you obviously read the summary wrong and didn't even do a sanity check as you typed that shit in.
they left all the parts that portray CHINA BAD, and replaced everything positive about China from the book with British
So its Chinese who doom the world, but its British who save it
the first episode literally used the book as a script. It’s a line for line adaptation. Seriously, follow along with the book and it’s exactly the same. What more did you want?
Never read the books, judign by the summary they seem to be a dumb, nihilistic, character-focussed story that eventually completely goes off the rails.
Why the hype?
From the summery I've gotten, it's supposed to be a high science fiction story in the mold of Arthur C. Clarke. It's very dense and the first book isn't very action driven, it's mostly scientists in rooms talking about complicated equations.
>character-focussed
I read the first book, there's almost no character focus at all. They're just vehicles for ideas. There's a lot of stuff about the cultural revolution that probably won't make it to the series though so not sure the direction they're going to take. They already split one of the main characters into like 5 different people
Not possible within the context of the story. If they're trying to Americanize the show the closest analogue would be to have Wen Xinjie be a black woman during the civil rights era instead. I'd call her Winnie Jackson.
>character-focussed
I read the first book, there's almost no character focus at all. They're just vehicles for ideas. There's a lot of stuff about the cultural revolution that probably won't make it to the series though so not sure the direction they're going to take. They already split one of the main characters into like 5 different people
Which character? I’ve read all 3 and I’m curious. They can potentially salvage it with season 2 since it takes place 250 years later
I'd liken the 3 books to Gurren Lagann in the way the scope opens up. In book 1 you are wondering how someone made the cosmic microwave background blink, but by book 3 things are using universal constants like the speed of light as weapons. And the whole series takes place over like 300 years. it's the actual definition of epic.
It’s pretty derivative and far fetched “oh my god what if reality isn’t real”? And “what if humans like, always immediately kill each other?”
However, what it did to well was inaugurate that sort of Xcom idea of a known but distant alien invasion and factions arising to respond to it with different priorities and responsibilities.
>“oh my god what if reality isn’t real”?
lmao bro never got half way through the first book. That's not something ever seriously proposed in the books.
The novels were just astroturfed headpats to the Chinese. "Aww, they can write sci-fi just like real peepo." sort of thing. They're terrible novels, they're absolute junk. Dude can't write worth shit.
Now a Netflix adaptation? lol. Combining two objectively shitty things is going to be the height awful.
>Cinemaphile has spent the better part of a decade complaining about traditional European stories being blackwashed and gender swapped >nobody even bats a single eyelash when a Chinese story is whitewashed (knowing Netflix, it'll be blackwashed as well)
Can't you homosexual just admit you're hypocrites? All you want is more whipipo in your movies and TV, that's it, bottom line. You don't give a dogshit about integrity, or originality, or maintaining a semblance of canon storytelling. You never ever cared, it wasn't even on the agenda. Now stop pretending and just admit it. Think I'm bullshiting? Think back to Lawd of the Rangz, House of the Dragon, The Little Mermaid, Ninja Turtles, or any of the hundred times in the last few years alone you b***hes have cried and complained about blackwashing. Now that the reverse has finally happened, where's the constant threads that hit bump limit? Where's the surge of memes? Where's the cross board posters who make threads on Cinemaphile, Cinemaphile, and /misc/? You're nowhere because you cowards never cared about race swaps. Only when it didn't benefit you did you care.
You say all that, but again, I don't see anyone at all making threads on Cinemaphile talking about how you're boycotting this series because it's an Asian series that's been whitewashed. Seriously, think back to the rings of power abomination. There were constant threads and dozens of hilarious hand crafted memes about how bullshit it was that they totally blackwashed the entire setting. People were furious. You guys were taking about how you were glad Tolkein was dead, so he couldn't see how his precious creation that was the foundation of European fantasy be decimated in such a brutal fashion.
But when it benefits you, you don't say a word. I don't hear a fricking peep from any of you. I just want you guys to admit it, that's all. There's nothing to be done, just like there was nothing you guys could do to stop Rangz. But I just want to hear it: "yes we're hypocrites, yes we only want to watch movies with white people in all the roles, even if the story came from the opposite side of the earth from Europe/America". That's it, that's all I want. But you're too much of cowards to even do that.
Except Chinese people already made their chinese version, and I'm only here to see the wokewashed version (that I will never watch) fail.
On the other hand I don't see you whining about cultural appropriation, and you know why? Because the series isn't stolen from the whites you hate.
Racist hypocrite
I don't usually care about blackwashing and gender swapping, but the cultural revolution is a pretty big part of the book so I'm a little dubious about de-sinofying this in particular. It's really like they just looked at it and said too many asians
??? the threads are full of people complaining about the casting
But they're complaining it's full of rainbow mutts because it is, not white people
you made up a fake argument and are then wrong about it
Also I have no problem admitting I want to look at white people and not ugly Black folk, literally nobody here has a problem saying that
>majority white country,
Are you sure about that, you fricking disgenic mutt dog? Aren't you the ones always complaining about how you're a heckin minority in in your own country and you're being genocided because there's too many brownskins in your movies (I guess in this case, you're being reverse genocided)? You didn't think this post out very well, did you b***h?
>our media should reflect that
Well I guess you're getting what you're asking for with all these blackwashed/mexicanwashed movies and shows.
>seethe more chang
I'll be alright, but I eagerly await the 100x threads that hit bump limit when they adapt the Chronicles of Narnia and pic related is your Jesus allegory. I guess we'll see who's seething then.
Nobody cares about race swaps when they're sensible and not >lmao well show Whitey >you are a bigot >diversity is our strength >stop being white >affirmative action
etc decisions. Hardly anyone complained about Jackson as Fury in the MCU. Only a single person complained about the black scientist in Oppenheimer. Nobody cared about Morpheus being black in the matrix. Nobody minded the black kid in Disney's Recess. Nobody minded all the actual and not forced diversity in 90s and early 00s movies and series.
Ask yourself why.
Luo Ji will be made female in the US version, I ONE HUNDREDD PERCENT guarantee it. The books "females doom society and men save it" will be reversed in the garbage American pig version.
SHUT THE FRICK UP ABOUT CHINKSLOP AND MUTTSLOP
WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT HOW PHYSICS ISN'T REAL
>dude the results of the experiment change depending on whether or not there's an observer but also that's not true at all we just kinda imply that because it's exciting philosophically even though we all know that's not what's happening at all but we still allow the observer effect to be mischaracterized like that >dude Schrodinger's cat lol
SCIENCE IS FAKE AND GAY. These people LITERALLY will not stand against the idea that men can get pregnant but you trust them with the foundation of the universe lol????? hello????
>all physics are quantum physics
keyed
3 months ago
Anonymous
>All physics is physics
If we want a unified theory, then yeah.
>it's a show made by chinese who are 115 average IQ
Apparently you haven't read the novels. Even Black sci-fi authors are far above Chinese sci-fi authors. By a huge extent, as well.
In the books you never once see the aliens. The humans get their asses handed to them by a single PROBE, millions die to that single probe, the characters are horrifically bug people (several of them kill themselves after discovering that physcis doesnt exist)
The entire human race gets flattened at the end by a random, no-name alien race that finds communications between Earth and the original aliens
In the books you never once see the aliens. The humans get their asses handed to them by a single PROBE, millions die to that single probe, the characters are horrifically bug people (several of them kill themselves after discovering that physcis doesnt exist)
The entire human race gets flattened at the end by a random, no-name alien race that finds communications between Earth and the original aliens
One of the characters kills herself AFTER finding out aliens are fricking with them. Literal bug people. Americans will think these scientsts are idiots or insane
Frick you. It doesn't matter how old it is, not everyone reads book synopses BEFORE they read books, like you do. That's genuinely the best part of the whole series. I'm telling you I am going to put some dark magic on you for that.
btw the bunker plan fails and the solar system gets turned two-dimensional but the mcs escape on humanity's only lightspeed ship, after which they go to a black domain and live there for a couple million years
An in the end the universe start exploding and all the species in the universe decide to commit suicide to le it implode instead, and restart with a 11 dimensions big bang.
Happy now?
half the show is going to be the characters inside a VR videogame
literally watching videogame cutscenes
no thanks
also a bunch of diversity slop pretending to do smart science stuff
lmao
it's laughable
Eat shit, I can criticize anything I wish. I will not just say happy little thoughts. If its shit it will be called shit and there is nothing you can do about it
and I don't mean this as some meme I mean it literally
>hmm if I do this equation, there is no remainder, therefor everything is made of strings >why no, I have no actual evidence to support this >why yes, every attempt to prove it experimentally for the past 50 years has failed >but mathematically infinite universes can exist. Right now there is literally a naked Abby Shapiro playing the banjo with her breasts out, in front of you, in one universe. >physics is totally real and not at all fake
Science and specifically physics and chemistry start to make a lot more sense once you realize it's useless to describe such abstract things literally. At a certain point you just need to accept that if a theory or equation or model makes good predictions that's as close to the truth as you're going to get, and it doesn't really matter that much for practical uses. There's no real way to conceptualize what a magnetic field really "is" in the sense of your day to day perceptions, and that's babby stuff as far as physics goes. You just have to make your peace with it.
SHUT THE FRICK UP ABOUT CHINKSLOP AND MUTTSLOP
WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT HOW PHYSICS ISN'T REAL
>dude the results of the experiment change depending on whether or not there's an observer but also that's not true at all we just kinda imply that because it's exciting philosophically even though we all know that's not what's happening at all but we still allow the observer effect to be mischaracterized like that >dude Schrodinger's cat lol
SCIENCE IS FAKE AND GAY. These people LITERALLY will not stand against the idea that men can get pregnant but you trust them with the foundation of the universe lol????? hello????
The Tencent version is a masterpiece. In fact, I think it's one of the best adapted screenplays ever made. The only main criticism I'd give the tencent show is the use of liberal Dutch angles, and some of the editing. Kind of went overboard with it. And, of course, the small parts where they took liberties with the story by adding new characters.
I stopped watching it when I was just watching really bad videogame cutscenes
The show also repeated concepts over and over, like, an idea that you understand and has been fully explored within 5 minutes, they will keep repeating and hammering on about for 3 hours. They'll explain it to one person and then explain it again to another person, like 5 times, as if you the audience hadn't already seen it. It made me wonder if the bugs were functionally moronic, I thought they were supposed to be smarter.
Yeah, some of the video game episodes are kind of bad, but so were those chapters in the book. It's mostly superfluous stuff the author just wanted to write to escape the setting I guess. Kind of like in the third book where the main character has to decipher three children's stories, and the author presents EACH STORY as an individual chapter. I literally skipped all 3 chapters and it didn't affect the story in the slightest. I just read later about her insights from the stories lol.
Holy FRICK I wanted to shoot myself in the face reading those. Also that chapter in book 2? about the scientist going on a date with HIS FRICKING IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND THAT LED NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHERE
the imaginary girlfriend shit is kinda gay, especially because the real girlfriend ends up fricking off after he starts cryosleep and is never mentioned again
I stopped watching it when I was just watching really bad videogame cutscenes
The show also repeated concepts over and over, like, an idea that you understand and has been fully explored within 5 minutes, they will keep repeating and hammering on about for 3 hours. They'll explain it to one person and then explain it again to another person, like 5 times, as if you the audience hadn't already seen it. It made me wonder if the bugs were functionally moronic, I thought they were supposed to be smarter.
because you watched it in chinese geg
The tencent version on Amazon made me wanna blow my fricking brains out. It took like 27 episodes to fricking figure it out
Guy who read all 3 books here
Im forcing my wife to watch the netflix one when it comes out, just to see if a normie could even understand what is happening when an entire book is condensend into 8 episodes.
wait is this just the first book? i was under the impression that it'd be the entire series
The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
>I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it
there's your problem
The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
unironically read it, if you're a poorgay there's probably some sketchy russian website or something with a pdf
>wait is this just the first book? i was under the impression that it'd be the entire series
I'm sure there's an article out there somewhere to confirm but my guess is yes, based off of the trailers. They only show scenes from the first novel.
I imagine the later books are planned for later seasons if the first is successful. Both the showrunners and Netflix benefit from a longer run with more episodes ordered.
>Im forcing my wife to watch the netflix one when it comes out, just to see if a normie could even understand what is happening when an entire book is condensend into 8 episodes.
Enjoy your divorce
The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
I watched 12-15 episodes waiting for it to get to some kind of point before I couldn't take it anymore
It's like a chink version of Lost where it starts mystery boxes
I guess it actually gets somewhere eventually but I was too bored watching videogame cutscenes to get there
I would like to, but I value my time. Before I pick up a book I like to know that it's worth it. Usually good Sci fi can be explained in a few sentences to understand the main idea behind it with no spoilers. If it's just "stuff happens and it's complex, there are aliens and dimensions, humanity is destroyed but they make cool technology and some survive for trillion years" it seems like a fake history book for autists that like details but not ideas. Like Foundation but even more Le Epic
>it seems like a fake history book for autists that like details but not ideas
You're not 100% wrong, but the book consists of mostly ideas, so you are wrong about that. A lot of the book does feel like fictional history texts, or wiki articles. But saying it's not a book for people who like ideas is laughable. You can read just a few pages of any book and chew on it for days (as I did while reading it).
I don't draw conclusions, it's just what I presume based on my limited understanding. That's why I asked you guy who are familiar with it to change my view of it. If it has meaningful concepts - nice, I'll think a out getting the books
I don't know, man. I got many good recommendations from here, that's why I lurk. Cinemaphile has been a good source of valuable opinions for me, enough people have good taste here
The books are really good anon. There you go. Now read them, and if you don't like them then stop. Did that help?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Did it help?
Yes it did, thanks. So far many posts here made an impression that it's for pathetic chink nerds who like complex but empty science-flavored walls of text and they get aggressive at "zoomer brains can't handle muh science and heckin ayy lmao". But you say that there's some merit behind it and I believe it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it's for pathetic chink nerds who like complex but empty science-flavored walls of text
Again, you're brushing up against real criticisms of the books, but they aren't empty. And you just won't know for yourself until you read them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So far I hoped that it's something like Azimov's "The Gods Themselves" but with confrontation instead of cooperation with vastly different alien race through fundamental physics. That book had cool concepts. Now I see it's partially true
>it seems like a fake history book
That's one of the best parts of the series. Once you've read it you can discuss it with other people as if it were an actual history. For instance, my favorite character in the series is one I don't think you ever meet. His name is Chu Yan, captain of Blue Space, a stellar-class warship in the Asian fleet. It's feats involve winning a battle with 4 other stellar-class warships with no warning, and only firing in retaliation, catching up to and disarming Natural Selection after it went rogue with no casualties using wildly experimental techniques, being the first ever human-droplet encounter where humans won, sending the gravitational wave message that saves the Earth in the end, and also the founder of Starship Earth, the only surviving humans in the far future.
I see, it's cool if it's the narration is coherent and engaging. I explained why I was sceptical about it. I like my sci-fi to be recapped in a few sentences to give the idea of the concept. Like The Gods Themselves that I mentioned and thought it had some similarities to these books. "We talked to blob homies from another universe through fundamental physics, helped them solve a catastrophic problem, both learned an important lesson and changed our view of the world" - sounds intriguing and interesting. If 3bp is a bit autistic like Foundation, but has interesting core ideas - I'll check it out.
>I listened to a video essay about it and it seems soulless
You are seeing a reflection of yourself, a soulless husk of zoomer flesh. Read the fricking book or have a nice day and your shitty opinion.
>The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
Is this just something your generation does or are you trolling? You didn't read the book, you didn't watch the series, instead you skimmed some homosexual's video essay on YouTube. Not watched of course, you couldn't be assed to do that. You fricking skimmed a YouTube video, and you're complaining that you don't get it? You want one of us to feed you an opinion because you're too lazy and stupid to make one yourself? What are you doing with your life lmao? There's something seriously wrong with your generation. You're rotten to your cores. It's unbelievable to me that you've been able to make it this far in life.
It's like when idiots watch an HD cam of a new movie and complain about special effects. You dumb fricking zoomer, you didn't even see the movie! They don't actually DO fricking anything. They watch people do it or talk about it.
>It's like when idiots watch an HD cam of a new movie and complain about special effects. You dumb fricking zoomer, you didn't even see the movie! They don't actually DO fricking anything. They watch people do it or talk about it.
I disagree, because if you watched the camrip, you've still technically watched the movie. This little zoomoid scumbag couldn't even be bothered to watch the camrip, hell he doesn't have the attention span to watch a gay YouTube video essay. He had to skim it because he probably can't pay attention unless there's some kind of mobile game being played in the top half of his screen.
My dude, I'm 35. It's usually the young people themselves who obsess over generations and think everybody is younger then them. You have alot of free time to consume any content, but some people have seen and read alot in their time to value their attention. I see something being talked about, it attracts my interest, then I need to know if it has some value to decide to check it out myself. If there's nothing to take out from - it's just a waste of time for nerds who clog their brain with useless details.
I don't know, man. I got many good recommendations from here, that's why I lurk. Cinemaphile has been a good source of valuable opinions for me, enough people have good taste here
How long does it take for the aliens to show up in the chink version? Does it get passed the VR game stuff? It's sounding worse with imaginary girlfriends. Is it worth finishing if I'm 13 episodes in?
in the books? aliens show up (sort of), they never interact with humans face-to-face except for maybe during the colonization period which lasted for like a chapter or two
A literal frick ton of interesting shit happens. So much that the series could spawn dozens of series from idea it just throws away in two pages. I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers
A literal frick ton of interesting shit happens. So much that the series could spawn dozens of series from idea it just throws away in two pages. I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers
Well it sure as frick wasn't depicted in the show
Or if it was, a 5 minute idea was stretched out over 50 minutes and beaten to death, and then turned into a VR videogame
why are you even here then? Is it FOMO?
You motherfrickers are so afraid of feeling left out of anything
I want there to be a good sci fi but there never is so I have to spread hate and demoralization to affect their income to punish them for making dogshit
It's all I can do
30 pages left to finish the dark forest. Amazing ending but some of most of it was pretty boring. The part of the wallfacer with his waifu almost made me give up the book. The first book was more solid
The first book is a tighter package, but I don't know how you could say it's better than Dark Forest. Dark Forest is just one of the most engaging books I ever read.
The books exposed me to the Dark Forest hypothesis and I’m all in on it. Personally, I welcome our destruction because of Elon’s moronation. We should have been more quiet. >humanity becomes extinct because some Tesla is discovered by a technologically advanced civilization
you dumb motherfricker. In the book they're beaming frickin' transmissions to other galaxies. You only have to think what that could mean for humanity in the future if the same thing occurred.
what if you hate elon because he's a small hat person?
I'd liken the 3 books to Gurren Lagann in the way the scope opens up. In book 1 you are wondering how someone made the cosmic microwave background blink, but by book 3 things are using universal constants like the speed of light as weapons. And the whole series takes place over like 300 years. it's the actual definition of epic.
speed of light's being used as a defensive tool albeit, you're confusing it with the weapons that literally destroy dimensions
the dark forest hypothesis falls apart as soon as you realize its impossible to hide anyways.
earth has been broadcasting information about its habitability for hundreds of millions of years through its light spectrum, a few radio waves in the last century dont matter at all.
if there was anybody in this galaxy with hostile intentions or the capacity to reach earth, they would already be here. humans wouldnt have evolved in the first place.
there is no ancient predator species out there, we are alone in our corner of the universe
>we are alone in our corner of the universe
Yeah in the book they discovered a new way to send radio signals WAY further than ever possible before, which is the only way the aliens heard us. I'm just talking about the book, not real life. I don't believe in the theory in real life simply because you can communicate via your actions. Make yourself vulnerable to the second party and it shows you aren't hostile. Disarm, essentially.
While I agree with you, I think it's important to point out that even if we could travel at close to the speed of light, the vast majority of the universe is already out of reach for us. The universe keeps expanding, and 90% of it has already drifted out of reach. A lot of people don't know this, but stars aren't forever. There's only a tiny fraction of the total lifespan of the universe in which star formation is possible, and we currently live in the ass end of the era of star formation. Each year, there are only 3 new stars that are formed.
Soon, all the stars in the universe will slowly burn out and fade away, and due to the expanding nature of the universe, we'll slowly drift away, first from other galaxies and then from other stars entirely. Future life forms will look at their own sun but see a night sky full of darkness and think to themselves that their sun and world is the only thing that has ever existed. They'll be totally ignorant of the cosmos and how the universe was created because their probes and telescopes will see nothing but empty space.
And when the final stars collapse, the universe will be nothing but black holes swirling around in nothingness; no light, no life, just nothing, for trillions and trillions and trillions of years, in what scientists call 'the black hole era'. And when the final black hole itself dies out, entropy will set in and the universe will finally stop expanding, and nothing new will ever be created. Time and space will become meaningless as nothing ever happens again.
if you lived in the 1800s, you would be predicting that we would all starve if humanity reached 2 billion population.
who the frick knows that solutions and information they come up with in a million years, the so called end of the universe is still in flux because people can actively influence it, even if it doesnt seem like it right now
Shut the frick up scienceBlack person, you literally have no idea about any of that. "Scientists" are so fricking arrogant to make predictions like this based on arcane speculation when they can't even get us off this fricking rock.
>the universe will be cold and empty in 10 trillion years and we'll all be dead >I better not ask out my cute college classmate who always laughs at my bad jokes, I dont want to bother her in her last moments
the universe is incredibly old, its moronic to think that all civilizations would enter the stage at the same time. someone must've been the first and their advantage would be so huge that they would win the galaxy by default.
we're already on the cusp of building space telescopes that can detect the atmospheric composition of exoplanets, a civilization that is capable of going between stars will have thousands of these telescopes.
keeping tabs on your neighborhood is beneficial in any case, either to know if and where your rivals are, or where to send your colonists.
the light information from earth's past is already traveling, there is no way for us to hide. if someone is nearby, looking for habitable planets, they wouldve found earth a long time ago.
No its not big dog. It's still incredibly young. Life is only possible for pic related of the total lifespan of the universe. We're in the ass end of the goldilocks period in which life is possible. The vast majority of the universe's life will be spent with blackholes swirling around and fading away.
If any of you has a free 30 min and space and science and shit, check out this vid. Warning, will cause existential dread.
Oh nooooooooooo, TIME is really long! Better get worried!!
Lol get fricked you low IQ moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't feel anything knowing that the universe will last an unimaginably long time, but we only exist in a fraction of it? Well I do, and if that makes me a low IQ moron, I'd better go get a helmet. I guess you win, say, what's your prize for demolishing me so?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Realizing that a huge amount of time in the universe is completely pointless, so that our tiiiiny time means its actually super important. Since the rest of the time its just a bunch of ded rocks floating around.
GET DUNKED ON moron LLAWWLO
3 months ago
Anonymous
Who gives a shit about the universe? Humanity is all that matters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I unironically agree. Humanity comes first, scientific progress goes along with it. All our achievements in fundamental physics can all be attributed to humanitarian achievements. If society decays you can forget about science. Huge leaps in physics happened when the west had its period of stability and the soviet system reached its peak before falling apart from its fundamental flaws. Only breakthroughs in philosophy and sociology could be the foundation of future scientific and technological advances.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I agree with what you said, but I meant my comment more in the sense of a general perspective. The perspective of "omg le universe is so vast and we are so insignificant" is not useful and fills people with dread. A more human centric perspective leaves more room for optimism and drive to explore the universe.
Oh well maybe I'm just sick of all the nihilistic bullshit that's around nowadays. It feels so suffocating.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yep, scientific progress can never be the goal, it's the means of achieving goals and implementing ideas. The concept of progress itself is very dependant on humanitarian concepts and ideologies.
I'm also quite pessimistic, but now I'm getting back to studying philosophy, the history of religious ideas and stuff like that I managed to find some hope. Greek filosophy bloomed after the crisis of faith. Judo-Christian ideas grew on the remnants of Egyptian religious thought. Renaissance happened after the stagnant middle ages. Now we have an ideological crysis after the communism proved itself an utter failure and its rot tainted the west when it grew too soft and corrupt. A new philosophy should arise from that, but we might need things to get worse before it gets better. Also there's unironic inequality problem, the globalists try to solve it in their twisted way, and their failure should bring the incentive to find another solutions, taking the best from what's been achieved before.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yep shits fricked, but there's nothing you or I can do about it. Unless you are planning to do activism or anything I recommend avoiding politics, and when it comes to philosphy just read shit that interests you, not things to figure out what went wrong. That shit just makes you unhappy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if you feel existential dread by space stuff then you're looking at it the wrong way.
I only feel pride and wonder that I live in an age where people have managed to figure some this shit out. it has no bearing on my daily reality but I'm glad that theres time and resources available for people to study things like this
Personally I think any radiowaves or light information emanating from earth is irrelevant because it ends up incomprehensibly distorted through the vastness of time and space long before it reaches any hostile drones that would detect it as proof of existence to exterminate. it's like throwing a rock into one end of the ocean and there's a killing machine on the other end that activates if it detects the source of those ripples. that we haven't died yet isn't proof that it's not out there, just proof that--if it exists at all-- it hasn't discovered our existence. Either way, all of these kind of theories, dark forest, simulation theory, etc. operate basically the same way, and may as well not exist until the moment they're proven to exist.
>ends up incomprehensibly distorted through the vastness of time and space
but light doesnt. you can clearly see stars in the night sky. telescopes are getting better and better with every generation and it works even better in the infrared spectrum.
its both possible and beneficial to look for exoplanets, we're already doing this. who knows what will be possible to gather from light emissions in 500 years
Dark forest theory doesn’t take into account just how truly massive the haystack of the galaxy is to the needle of our civilization. All but the most intense radio signals will get drowned out in the cosmic microwave background radiation before reaching Alpha Centauri. Even things like the SETI Arecibo message partially achieves its strength through targeting a relatively small portion of the sky, and not broadcasting in all directions, so the aliens would need to be living in that direction. Secondly, the message was transmitted for only 3 minutes. This would give the aliens a three-light-minute thick ‘radio shell’ traveling towards them, and once it’s passed, if they weren’t listening, they will never pick it up. Plus they aimed it at M13 so it won’t even arrive for 25,000 years. No, it’s far more likely every single effort we’ve ever made to contact aliens has been drowned out by the intense vastness of both space and time, plus the immense sea of radiation and charged particles between us and any potential observer.
if your ship is large enough and self sustaining, it doesnt matter how long the journey is. building a 50 mile wide arcology with thousands of people on board is not totally unrealistic. they wont care if the journey takes hundreds of years
Space travel is completely possible. We’ve already done it. You mean interstellar space travel ‘on time scales compatible with human existence’ is completely impossible. However, this wouldn’t matter if you sent archived human genetic material which was then automatically lab grown into new people upon arrival at the destination planet.
>However, this wouldn’t matter if you sent archived human genetic material which was then automatically lab grown into new people upon arrival at the destination planet.
like Species (1995) or Titolo originale: The Astronaut's Wife (1999)?
Someone capable of galaxy space travel must also have have easy means to observe and even map everything.
So, either we are truly alone, or FTL and/or going into deep space is not really possible or viable for living beings.
Or maybe they are just observing and keeping us safe in a nature reserve.
They call humans bugs. One of the best moments of the whole series is when the aliens finally reveal themselves to humanity, and they use their technology to put messages in their eyes that say "YOU'RE ALL BUGS!"
I thought the first book was pretty boring, even the first half of the second book. But the second half ot the dark forest all the way to the end of deaths end was pure kino >wallfacers >doomsday battle >battle of darkness >Luo Ji at the end of TDF >Australia >Pluto
I thought the ending of Deaths end was beautiful as well, two formerly mortal enemies cheering together at the literal end of time
The books say they have mirrored faces. Or something like that. And they probably are insectoid, and we know they can dehydrate and rehydrate far later.
see you people are talking about cool things but again when I watched the chink show it was people playing a VR game and when I watch the netflix ad it's mutts playing a VR game and also looks more stupid than the chink version
I am all for hundred year long physics wars, where the frick do I get that? Besides the book, I don't read
You must read. I didn't read for years before reading the series and it drew me in so much I binged 3 whole books. The simple fact is that no tv show will ever convey the series correctly. It must be read.
This is probably the worst written book I've ever read, including fanfic and shit made by randos from Cinemaphile. All of the characters are nothing but exposition machines and the final third or so of the book is just the villain minutiously explaining their plan and the workings behind it through a pages long expository rant that reads like something written by a bot, followed by the most anticlimatic ayy twarting plan in the history of fiction.
The books do require you to have an active imagination, as the text is very sterile and cold. You kind of have to punch it up in your head. At least things like the Judgement Day climax in the first book.
Judgement Day is the name of the ship that the ETO use as their headquarters in book 1. You are thinking of the Doomsday Battle in book 2. There is also the Battle of Darkness later in book 2.
Judgement Day is the name of the ship that the ETO use as their headquarters in book 1. You are thinking of the Doomsday Battle in book 2. There is also the Battle of Darkness later in book 2.
>Ball lightning
Explain to me why this was in the books/tv series.
3 months ago
Anonymous
reference to a different book by the same author
3 months ago
Anonymous
Thats funny
3 months ago
Anonymous
i guess so
>it seems like a fake history book
That's one of the best parts of the series. Once you've read it you can discuss it with other people as if it were an actual history. For instance, my favorite character in the series is one I don't think you ever meet. His name is Chu Yan, captain of Blue Space, a stellar-class warship in the Asian fleet. It's feats involve winning a battle with 4 other stellar-class warships with no warning, and only firing in retaliation, catching up to and disarming Natural Selection after it went rogue with no casualties using wildly experimental techniques, being the first ever human-droplet encounter where humans won, sending the gravitational wave message that saves the Earth in the end, and also the founder of Starship Earth, the only surviving humans in the far future.
wasn't blue space the one that practiced cannibalism?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>wasn't blue space the one that practiced cannibalism?
My memory is fuzzy, but I believe that was Bronze Age or Quantum.
I'm sorry but you can't try to be a smart intelligent physics based show and then do this
You can't have a bunch of stupid mutts and this fricking goober and have me try to take you seriously as intelligent
The universe is going to end in 1400 years which is when the half-life of dark matter is up and radiation from the decay ends all life, galaxies fall apart and the heat death is accelerated
sorry chud hope you dont have plans 2000 years from now
I think my favorite moment of all three books is when Wang Miao, Da Shi, and the other physicist are in the field of locusts, after the Trisolarans have officially revealed themselves and declared war on humanity, and Da Shi gives a speech about how long we have hated bugs and yet they are still here in numbers that dwarf ours, despite our technology. The feeling of impending doom juxtaposed with that kind of beautiful realization of hope was exquisite.
Worst moments in this universe so far:
1. The big bang/origin of the universe
2. That fish homosexual that crawled out of the ocean
3. multi-cellular organisms evolving for the first time
4. single celled organisms capable of reproducing
5. Dylan Mulvaney being born
6. Cancer I guess, from here it's a list of annoying things.
When I read the dark forest theory I thought it was stupid bullshit and believed an optimistic outcome was more likely. Then I put the book down, hopped on to apex legends and immediately charged the direction of any gunfire or dropship.
who knows, maybe its some ETO leader, who was cut with nanofiber, but was resurrected and healed by trisolarans. They don't give a frick about being true to the book, so you can expect anything
this looks truly moronic
i suspect there's going to be a lot of sophon infiltration of government/scientific bodies instead of just tiny proton sophons fricking up science experiments
plus the weeb sophon from the books appears to be some kind of assassin of scientists in this so that's even more moronic
I am 10 episodes into the Chinese show and it is the boring shit I have ever watched. Nothing ever happens, I am extremely close to just reading the Wikipedia synopsis for the rest and moving on
>Critics of Benioff and Weiss will also note plenty of old issues popping up again. There are confounding changes to a beloved book series (I cannot imagine these new characters going over well), indelicate handling of racial and gender dynamics (the remaining Chinese characters in this once fully-Chinese story are barely developed, outright villainous, or both)
>indelicate handling of racial and gender dynamics (the remaining Chinese characters in this once fully-Chinese story are barely developed, outright villainous, or both)
Meh, the chinese show was close enough to the book (except the middle 20 episodes which were complete boredom filly in which I skipped) that I don't really care if this one flops.
In the chinese show, in the video game thing, they represented the western historical as pathetic and foolish meanwhile the chinese ones were all cool af and clever. It will be very interesting to see if the ((western)) depiction of our great thinkers will be worse than the chinese themselves mocking us.
but ye they are going to make the good sword holder a black lesbian trans and the one who fricks it all up by being weak, a cis white man.
Just finished the first book recently. I still can't decide whether it was any good or not. Interesting ideas, but poorly written. I don't have high hopes for the show or movie or whatever Netslop is putting out.
The novels were just astroturfed headpats to the Chinese. "Aww, they can write sci-fi just like real peepo." sort of thing. They're terrible novels, they're absolute junk. Dude can't write worth shit.
Now a Netflix adaptation? lol. Combining two objectively shitty things is going to be the height awful.
Most scifi isn't written the best or has the best characters. It's more about the ideas and if we are lucky some world building.
I wouldn't say poorly written per se. Not in most parts
Main problems for me were two:
1 - The characters, 99% of times, were never proactive. The only exist to witness events unfolding.
2 - The "big solution" at the end of every arc/book is poorly delivered/anticipated and always feels like a last minute asspull
>The characters, 99% of times, were never proactive. The only exist to witness events unfolding
Is it bad enough that he might as well have just written a fake history book or do the characters actually add anything?
The first book is like that for the MC but there is more happening then the MC especially in the second book where basically everyone is things to do thing.
How Chinese is it
The novel? Very Chinese in terms of characters has some whites nobody else matters. The tv show is going to be very diverse so you are trading Chinese for blacks and Indians probably.
This isn't a line by line adaption but it's scifi so mostly shit characters with kino ideas is expected. I can't tell if it's going to be better or worse. The second novels really has a shit arc at the start.
Which doesn't matter he doesn't really do anything an isn't that interesting.
It's "hard" scifi what character focused, you obviously read the summary wrong and didn't even do a sanity check as you typed that shit in.
they left all the parts that portray CHINA BAD, and replaced everything positive about China from the book with British
So its Chinese who doom the world, but its British who save it
>Netflix
That's why.
More like
>from the creators of Game of Thrones
Game of Thrones was KINO while they were adapting it faithfully.
Earlier seasons were saved by HBO executives behind the scenes. The pilot was a disaster.
the first episode literally used the book as a script. It’s a line for line adaptation. Seriously, follow along with the book and it’s exactly the same. What more did you want?
I said the unaired pilot, not the first episode. They went off books because they are fricking hacks who wanted to show off the actors.
No you didn’t, moron. You said the pilot, which is the first episode. Cope, seethe, and dilate (I have won this argument).
shut the frick up you scitzo. Learn what a pilot is.
absolutely malding
>gets to book 3
>makes a 2-episode half-assed season because they're bored
Never read the books, judign by the summary they seem to be a dumb, nihilistic, character-focussed story that eventually completely goes off the rails.
Why the hype?
From the summery I've gotten, it's supposed to be a high science fiction story in the mold of Arthur C. Clarke. It's very dense and the first book isn't very action driven, it's mostly scientists in rooms talking about complicated equations.
that's hot
>character-focussed
I read the first book, there's almost no character focus at all. They're just vehicles for ideas. There's a lot of stuff about the cultural revolution that probably won't make it to the series though so not sure the direction they're going to take. They already split one of the main characters into like 5 different people
They are gonna replace the cultural revolution with some current thing.
BLACK LIVES MATTER
>Wendy Yickerson presses the button after watching her dad be beaten to death for being white
kino
Not possible within the context of the story. If they're trying to Americanize the show the closest analogue would be to have Wen Xinjie be a black woman during the civil rights era instead. I'd call her Winnie Jackson.
>They already split one of the main characters into like 5 different people
By the power if diversity!
Which character? I’ve read all 3 and I’m curious. They can potentially salvage it with season 2 since it takes place 250 years later
Wang Miao, seems like he's been replaced by a group of people from various countries
That’s a really bizarre decision to make. Especially if it’s groups of people around the planet.
I don't remember names but it seems like it's the guy who was in charge of the nano string thing. The one the cop kept checking in on.
>not chinese-made
very badly
>character-focused
look at this man and laugh
so which one will be copernicus?
>character-focussed story
This is actual sci fi not For All Mankind.
Character focused hard sci fi can exist.
Cool book covers, added to my reading list.
Only the first one is good.
Green mars is fantastic and arguably better than red mars.
read that entire series, it was alright
le game of thrones self interest politics
but in space
yaaaaaaaaaaaawn
You literally could not be more wrong if you had actually read the books and tried to describe them as incorrectly as possible, lol.
The three books are completely different in tone.
1st book is a detective story
2nd is apocalyptic
3rd is cosmic horror
>detective story
frick me who cares, get to the cosmic horror
I'd liken the 3 books to Gurren Lagann in the way the scope opens up. In book 1 you are wondering how someone made the cosmic microwave background blink, but by book 3 things are using universal constants like the speed of light as weapons. And the whole series takes place over like 300 years. it's the actual definition of epic.
Believe in the me that believes in one of the shittiest endings in all of anime.
It’s pretty derivative and far fetched “oh my god what if reality isn’t real”? And “what if humans like, always immediately kill each other?”
However, what it did to well was inaugurate that sort of Xcom idea of a known but distant alien invasion and factions arising to respond to it with different priorities and responsibilities.
>“oh my god what if reality isn’t real”?
lmao bro never got half way through the first book. That's not something ever seriously proposed in the books.
It’s a third book thing
So its gonna be like dark? Old scifi tropes with more autism?
The novels were just astroturfed headpats to the Chinese. "Aww, they can write sci-fi just like real peepo." sort of thing. They're terrible novels, they're absolute junk. Dude can't write worth shit.
Now a Netflix adaptation? lol. Combining two objectively shitty things is going to be the height awful.
it leads you to believe that, but it turns out he's more of a gigantic brained evil genius
It's nihilistic chinkslop. Its only value is as a window into the mindset of soulless bugpeople.
Why do you uneducated homosexuals always whinge about nihilism. Have you never read a scifi book in your life? Imbecile.
>BMWF
not watching it
>Cinemaphile has spent the better part of a decade complaining about traditional European stories being blackwashed and gender swapped
>nobody even bats a single eyelash when a Chinese story is whitewashed (knowing Netflix, it'll be blackwashed as well)
Can't you homosexual just admit you're hypocrites? All you want is more whipipo in your movies and TV, that's it, bottom line. You don't give a dogshit about integrity, or originality, or maintaining a semblance of canon storytelling. You never ever cared, it wasn't even on the agenda. Now stop pretending and just admit it. Think I'm bullshiting? Think back to Lawd of the Rangz, House of the Dragon, The Little Mermaid, Ninja Turtles, or any of the hundred times in the last few years alone you b***hes have cried and complained about blackwashing. Now that the reverse has finally happened, where's the constant threads that hit bump limit? Where's the surge of memes? Where's the cross board posters who make threads on Cinemaphile, Cinemaphile, and /misc/? You're nowhere because you cowards never cared about race swaps. Only when it didn't benefit you did you care.
euro and american movies/TV should be white
african movies/
TV should be black
asian movies/TV should be yellow
simple as
You say all that, but again, I don't see anyone at all making threads on Cinemaphile talking about how you're boycotting this series because it's an Asian series that's been whitewashed. Seriously, think back to the rings of power abomination. There were constant threads and dozens of hilarious hand crafted memes about how bullshit it was that they totally blackwashed the entire setting. People were furious. You guys were taking about how you were glad Tolkein was dead, so he couldn't see how his precious creation that was the foundation of European fantasy be decimated in such a brutal fashion.
But when it benefits you, you don't say a word. I don't hear a fricking peep from any of you. I just want you guys to admit it, that's all. There's nothing to be done, just like there was nothing you guys could do to stop Rangz. But I just want to hear it: "yes we're hypocrites, yes we only want to watch movies with white people in all the roles, even if the story came from the opposite side of the earth from Europe/America". That's it, that's all I want. But you're too much of cowards to even do that.
Except Chinese people already made their chinese version, and I'm only here to see the wokewashed version (that I will never watch) fail.
On the other hand I don't see you whining about cultural appropriation, and you know why? Because the series isn't stolen from the whites you hate.
Racist hypocrite
I don't usually care about blackwashing and gender swapping, but the cultural revolution is a pretty big part of the book so I'm a little dubious about de-sinofying this in particular. It's really like they just looked at it and said too many asians
You are entirely correct.
??? the threads are full of people complaining about the casting
But they're complaining it's full of rainbow mutts because it is, not white people
you made up a fake argument and are then wrong about it
Also I have no problem admitting I want to look at white people and not ugly Black folk, literally nobody here has a problem saying that
majority white country, our media should reflect that
seethe more chang
>china
>majority white
your brain on american education
>majority white country,
Are you sure about that, you fricking disgenic mutt dog? Aren't you the ones always complaining about how you're a heckin minority in in your own country and you're being genocided because there's too many brownskins in your movies (I guess in this case, you're being reverse genocided)? You didn't think this post out very well, did you b***h?
>our media should reflect that
Well I guess you're getting what you're asking for with all these blackwashed/mexicanwashed movies and shows.
>seethe more chang
I'll be alright, but I eagerly await the 100x threads that hit bump limit when they adapt the Chronicles of Narnia and pic related is your Jesus allegory. I guess we'll see who's seething then.
>disgenic
if you're going to parrot meaningless /misc/ buzzwords you could at least spell them correctly
Don't make me tap the sign, you disgenic mutt dog. Stop barking or I might just eat you, been a while since I've had dog.
>@incognigromode
>NicholasCageHoldingInLaughter.QMV
what's your native language, euroanon? something about your writing makes me think german
Nobody cares about race swaps when they're sensible and not
>lmao well show Whitey
>you are a bigot
>diversity is our strength
>stop being white
>affirmative action
etc decisions. Hardly anyone complained about Jackson as Fury in the MCU. Only a single person complained about the black scientist in Oppenheimer. Nobody cared about Morpheus being black in the matrix. Nobody minded the black kid in Disney's Recess. Nobody minded all the actual and not forced diversity in 90s and early 00s movies and series.
Ask yourself why.
The Chinese are certainly free to be disgusted by attempts to revise their prior media.
Just as white people are free to be disgusted by attempts to revise their prior media.
three body but not chinese is like huck finn but not american
i think it would be really heckin wholesome if they made luo ji a plus-size bipoc trans queen with adhd, aspergers, and aids
Luo Ji will be made female in the US version, I ONE HUNDREDD PERCENT guarantee it. The books "females doom society and men save it" will be reversed in the garbage American pig version.
chinabro telling it like it is
I'm American, but I call it like it is. American media is pig trash.
it's pig disgusting
tsmt
>all physics are quantum physics
keyed
>All physics is physics
If we want a unified theory, then yeah.
>all physics are quantum physics
Yes
luo ji is the black guy you moron
No shot. Yeah you can miss me with that American pig shit lmaooo
it never stood a chance
it's a show made by chinese who are 115 average IQ
meanwhile Amerimutt IQ is close to 90 nowadays, they're like India and Turkey in the intelligence rank
>it's a show made by chinese who are 115 average IQ
Apparently you haven't read the novels. Even Black sci-fi authors are far above Chinese sci-fi authors. By a huge extent, as well.
Overrated book that people only pretend to like because it’s Ching Chong shit.
I read all 3 books.
There will be no season 2.
In the books you never once see the aliens. The humans get their asses handed to them by a single PROBE, millions die to that single probe, the characters are horrifically bug people (several of them kill themselves after discovering that physcis doesnt exist)
The entire human race gets flattened at the end by a random, no-name alien race that finds communications between Earth and the original aliens
>(several of them kill themselves after discovering that physcis doesnt exist)
albeit that's just what the aliens wanted them to think
One of the characters kills herself AFTER finding out aliens are fricking with them. Literal bug people. Americans will think these scientsts are idiots or insane
Bro I am wishing some dark voodoo on you for spoiling the Battle of Darkness for people who haven't read it. That's just wrong.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN NETFLIX DIVERSITY SLOP NOOOOOOOOO
ITS A 16 YEAR OLD BOOK
16 FRICKING YEARS
Frick you. It doesn't matter how old it is, not everyone reads book synopses BEFORE they read books, like you do. That's genuinely the best part of the whole series. I'm telling you I am going to put some dark magic on you for that.
Not a single person in this ENTIRE THREAD will even understand what it means. Cinemaphiles are fricking moronS.
btw the bunker plan fails and the solar system gets turned two-dimensional but the mcs escape on humanity's only lightspeed ship, after which they go to a black domain and live there for a couple million years
Meh, no one is really gonna understand what you're saying. Spoiling the Battle of Darkness is all that matters.
An in the end the universe start exploding and all the species in the universe decide to commit suicide to le it implode instead, and restart with a 11 dimensions big bang.
Happy now?
> the characters are horrifically bug people
we already have those in earth
Underrated book that people only pretend to hate because it's Ching Chong shit.
half the show is going to be the characters inside a VR videogame
literally watching videogame cutscenes
no thanks
also a bunch of diversity slop pretending to do smart science stuff
lmao
it's laughable
>t. quit a third of the way through the first book
actually I quit 13 or so episodes into the chink show
>this thread
>DUDE JUST CONSOOM
Eat shit, I can criticize anything I wish. I will not just say happy little thoughts. If its shit it will be called shit and there is nothing you can do about it
We need an Elizabeth Olsen General
there's probably one on /hr/
I made it
>You will enjoy what we show
>You will be grateful and thankful about it
Physics ISN'T real btw
and I don't mean this as some meme I mean it literally
>hmm if I do this equation, there is no remainder, therefor everything is made of strings
>why no, I have no actual evidence to support this
>why yes, every attempt to prove it experimentally for the past 50 years has failed
>but mathematically infinite universes can exist. Right now there is literally a naked Abby Shapiro playing the banjo with her breasts out, in front of you, in one universe.
>physics is totally real and not at all fake
Science and specifically physics and chemistry start to make a lot more sense once you realize it's useless to describe such abstract things literally. At a certain point you just need to accept that if a theory or equation or model makes good predictions that's as close to the truth as you're going to get, and it doesn't really matter that much for practical uses. There's no real way to conceptualize what a magnetic field really "is" in the sense of your day to day perceptions, and that's babby stuff as far as physics goes. You just have to make your peace with it.
SHUT THE FRICK UP ABOUT CHINKSLOP AND MUTTSLOP
WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT HOW PHYSICS ISN'T REAL
>dude the results of the experiment change depending on whether or not there's an observer but also that's not true at all we just kinda imply that because it's exciting philosophically even though we all know that's not what's happening at all but we still allow the observer effect to be mischaracterized like that
>dude Schrodinger's cat lol
SCIENCE IS FAKE AND GAY. These people LITERALLY will not stand against the idea that men can get pregnant but you trust them with the foundation of the universe lol????? hello????
Why don't you stay in Cinemaphile, CoP?
The tencent version on Amazon made me wanna blow my fricking brains out. It took like 27 episodes to fricking figure it out
because you watched it in chinese geg
The Tencent version is a masterpiece. In fact, I think it's one of the best adapted screenplays ever made. The only main criticism I'd give the tencent show is the use of liberal Dutch angles, and some of the editing. Kind of went overboard with it. And, of course, the small parts where they took liberties with the story by adding new characters.
I stopped watching it when I was just watching really bad videogame cutscenes
The show also repeated concepts over and over, like, an idea that you understand and has been fully explored within 5 minutes, they will keep repeating and hammering on about for 3 hours. They'll explain it to one person and then explain it again to another person, like 5 times, as if you the audience hadn't already seen it. It made me wonder if the bugs were functionally moronic, I thought they were supposed to be smarter.
Yeah, some of the video game episodes are kind of bad, but so were those chapters in the book. It's mostly superfluous stuff the author just wanted to write to escape the setting I guess. Kind of like in the third book where the main character has to decipher three children's stories, and the author presents EACH STORY as an individual chapter. I literally skipped all 3 chapters and it didn't affect the story in the slightest. I just read later about her insights from the stories lol.
Holy FRICK I wanted to shoot myself in the face reading those. Also that chapter in book 2? about the scientist going on a date with HIS FRICKING IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND THAT LED NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHERE
the imaginary girlfriend shit is kinda gay, especially because the real girlfriend ends up fricking off after he starts cryosleep and is never mentioned again
You didn't even finish the book.
Yeah I genuinely was like "Oh? Do they really tell this whole story in the middle of this book? Oh they do all 3? Hmmm... *skips chapters*"
Guy who read all 3 books here
Im forcing my wife to watch the netflix one when it comes out, just to see if a normie could even understand what is happening when an entire book is condensend into 8 episodes.
wait is this just the first book? i was under the impression that it'd be the entire series
>I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it
there's your problem
unironically read it, if you're a poorgay there's probably some sketchy russian website or something with a pdf
>wait is this just the first book? i was under the impression that it'd be the entire series
I'm sure there's an article out there somewhere to confirm but my guess is yes, based off of the trailers. They only show scenes from the first novel.
I imagine the later books are planned for later seasons if the first is successful. Both the showrunners and Netflix benefit from a longer run with more episodes ordered.
The first book could be done in 3 45-50 minute episodes.
>Im forcing my wife to watch the netflix one when it comes out, just to see if a normie could even understand what is happening when an entire book is condensend into 8 episodes.
Enjoy your divorce
Yea they really dragged it out but that's how the books were
The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
I watched 12-15 episodes waiting for it to get to some kind of point before I couldn't take it anymore
It's like a chink version of Lost where it starts mystery boxes
I guess it actually gets somewhere eventually but I was too bored watching videogame cutscenes to get there
>watches a frickin' youtube video essay
>still needs to ask for an explanation
homie, just read the books, gawdayum
I would like to, but I value my time. Before I pick up a book I like to know that it's worth it. Usually good Sci fi can be explained in a few sentences to understand the main idea behind it with no spoilers. If it's just "stuff happens and it's complex, there are aliens and dimensions, humanity is destroyed but they make cool technology and some survive for trillion years" it seems like a fake history book for autists that like details but not ideas. Like Foundation but even more Le Epic
To be completely fair: I wanted to grab a gun and shoot myself in SEVERAL chapters of the books but I overall immensely enjoyed all 3 books.
>it seems like a fake history book for autists that like details but not ideas
You're not 100% wrong, but the book consists of mostly ideas, so you are wrong about that. A lot of the book does feel like fictional history texts, or wiki articles. But saying it's not a book for people who like ideas is laughable. You can read just a few pages of any book and chew on it for days (as I did while reading it).
I don't draw conclusions, it's just what I presume based on my limited understanding. That's why I asked you guy who are familiar with it to change my view of it. If it has meaningful concepts - nice, I'll think a out getting the books
The books are really good anon. There you go. Now read them, and if you don't like them then stop. Did that help?
>Did it help?
Yes it did, thanks. So far many posts here made an impression that it's for pathetic chink nerds who like complex but empty science-flavored walls of text and they get aggressive at "zoomer brains can't handle muh science and heckin ayy lmao". But you say that there's some merit behind it and I believe it.
>it's for pathetic chink nerds who like complex but empty science-flavored walls of text
Again, you're brushing up against real criticisms of the books, but they aren't empty. And you just won't know for yourself until you read them.
So far I hoped that it's something like Azimov's "The Gods Themselves" but with confrontation instead of cooperation with vastly different alien race through fundamental physics. That book had cool concepts. Now I see it's partially true
>it seems like a fake history book
That's one of the best parts of the series. Once you've read it you can discuss it with other people as if it were an actual history. For instance, my favorite character in the series is one I don't think you ever meet. His name is Chu Yan, captain of Blue Space, a stellar-class warship in the Asian fleet. It's feats involve winning a battle with 4 other stellar-class warships with no warning, and only firing in retaliation, catching up to and disarming Natural Selection after it went rogue with no casualties using wildly experimental techniques, being the first ever human-droplet encounter where humans won, sending the gravitational wave message that saves the Earth in the end, and also the founder of Starship Earth, the only surviving humans in the far future.
I see, it's cool if it's the narration is coherent and engaging. I explained why I was sceptical about it. I like my sci-fi to be recapped in a few sentences to give the idea of the concept. Like The Gods Themselves that I mentioned and thought it had some similarities to these books. "We talked to blob homies from another universe through fundamental physics, helped them solve a catastrophic problem, both learned an important lesson and changed our view of the world" - sounds intriguing and interesting. If 3bp is a bit autistic like Foundation, but has interesting core ideas - I'll check it out.
>I listened to a video essay about it and it seems soulless
You are seeing a reflection of yourself, a soulless husk of zoomer flesh. Read the fricking book or have a nice day and your shitty opinion.
get folded
>The other day I decided to see what's what with this chink sci-fi after so manc threads about it. I skimmed through some video essay on yt about lore and timeline of it. It seemed soulless af, just a usual story but with chink nes and a te travel through cryosleep and time dilation. Could you give me a quck explanation of the idea behind it? Is there a cool core concept? How is this different from any other book series with advanced alien invasion and remnants of humanity surviving? So far it seems like an overly complex story with autistic details and no meaningful idea behind it
Is this just something your generation does or are you trolling? You didn't read the book, you didn't watch the series, instead you skimmed some homosexual's video essay on YouTube. Not watched of course, you couldn't be assed to do that. You fricking skimmed a YouTube video, and you're complaining that you don't get it? You want one of us to feed you an opinion because you're too lazy and stupid to make one yourself? What are you doing with your life lmao? There's something seriously wrong with your generation. You're rotten to your cores. It's unbelievable to me that you've been able to make it this far in life.
It's like when idiots watch an HD cam of a new movie and complain about special effects. You dumb fricking zoomer, you didn't even see the movie! They don't actually DO fricking anything. They watch people do it or talk about it.
>It's like when idiots watch an HD cam of a new movie and complain about special effects. You dumb fricking zoomer, you didn't even see the movie! They don't actually DO fricking anything. They watch people do it or talk about it.
I disagree, because if you watched the camrip, you've still technically watched the movie. This little zoomoid scumbag couldn't even be bothered to watch the camrip, hell he doesn't have the attention span to watch a gay YouTube video essay. He had to skim it because he probably can't pay attention unless there's some kind of mobile game being played in the top half of his screen.
It's still one step removed. You didn't actually see the movie, you saw an approximation.
My dude, I'm 35. It's usually the young people themselves who obsess over generations and think everybody is younger then them. You have alot of free time to consume any content, but some people have seen and read alot in their time to value their attention. I see something being talked about, it attracts my interest, then I need to know if it has some value to decide to check it out myself. If there's nothing to take out from - it's just a waste of time for nerds who clog their brain with useless details.
Nobody can tell you what your time is worth, anon. Read a book or not, it's up to you, but don't go by the opinions of others, especially here.
I don't know, man. I got many good recommendations from here, that's why I lurk. Cinemaphile has been a good source of valuable opinions for me, enough people have good taste here
If it does flop you'll never know because Netflix doesn't release streaming numbers.
>Netflix
>FROM THE CREATORS OF GAME OF THRONES
It's like they don't even want anyone to watch this shit.
How long does it take for the aliens to show up in the chink version? Does it get passed the VR game stuff? It's sounding worse with imaginary girlfriends. Is it worth finishing if I'm 13 episodes in?
Oh they show up REAL soon... Just keep watching 😉
>How long does it take for the aliens to show up in the chink version
they don't
so glad I didn't waste my time
I don't even know what happens in story though, does ANYTHING interesting happen? I assumed it was going SOMEWHERE
read the frickin' books
>reading fiction
>reading chinku
lol please
why are you even here then? Is it FOMO?
You motherfrickers are so afraid of feeling left out of anything
in the books? aliens show up (sort of), they never interact with humans face-to-face except for maybe during the colonization period which lasted for like a chapter or two
He's talking about the Chinese live action series
never watched it, but it probably sucked
it was alright. Just disappointing that they didn't go through the entire story.
It's dogshit. There are over 30 episodes just for book 1, which is only 300 pages.
Im pretty sure you could read the entire book faster than you could watch it.
A literal frick ton of interesting shit happens. So much that the series could spawn dozens of series from idea it just throws away in two pages. I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers I hate fricking zoomers
Well it sure as frick wasn't depicted in the show
Or if it was, a 5 minute idea was stretched out over 50 minutes and beaten to death, and then turned into a VR videogame
I want there to be a good sci fi but there never is so I have to spread hate and demoralization to affect their income to punish them for making dogshit
It's all I can do
then don't frick zoomers
Honestly the pay off of finally seeing the aliens and their ships is worth it. Keep going.
It would be a success if they stopped attaching "from the creators of Game of Thrones" on every bit of marketing it gets.
People still largely resent D&D and want to punish them for what they did to GoT.
no it wouldn't, it looks bad and unappealing to normies
Why is it so hard to make a good movie/show with ayys
Woketards cannot create, therefore you'll need to wait for things to go back to normal in few years
30 pages left to finish the dark forest. Amazing ending but some of most of it was pretty boring. The part of the wallfacer with his waifu almost made me give up the book. The first book was more solid
The first book is a tighter package, but I don't know how you could say it's better than Dark Forest. Dark Forest is just one of the most engaging books I ever read.
The books exposed me to the Dark Forest hypothesis and I’m all in on it. Personally, I welcome our destruction because of Elon’s moronation. We should have been more quiet.
>humanity becomes extinct because some Tesla is discovered by a technologically advanced civilization
in my opinion the dark forest hypothesis is fricking gay and it's more likely that the intelligent life is just too far away for us to interact with
you dumb motherfricker. In the book they're beaming frickin' transmissions to other galaxies. You only have to think what that could mean for humanity in the future if the same thing occurred.
>I welcome our destruction because of Elon’s moronation.
I welcome you taking yourself out first.
Electric cars will never work, Elon
Anyone that hates Elon Musk is an agent working against that which is true and good. Evil, essentially. It's a very simple litmus test.
what if you hate elon because he's a small hat person?
speed of light's being used as a defensive tool albeit, you're confusing it with the weapons that literally destroy dimensions
Theres a 100% chance that an alien civilization has already fired a 2d envelope at us
prove it
I'll be proven right in like 800 years. You'll see.
you'll have to pay for my hibernation then chud
the dark forest hypothesis falls apart as soon as you realize its impossible to hide anyways.
earth has been broadcasting information about its habitability for hundreds of millions of years through its light spectrum, a few radio waves in the last century dont matter at all.
if there was anybody in this galaxy with hostile intentions or the capacity to reach earth, they would already be here. humans wouldnt have evolved in the first place.
there is no ancient predator species out there, we are alone in our corner of the universe
>we are alone in our corner of the universe
Yeah in the book they discovered a new way to send radio signals WAY further than ever possible before, which is the only way the aliens heard us. I'm just talking about the book, not real life. I don't believe in the theory in real life simply because you can communicate via your actions. Make yourself vulnerable to the second party and it shows you aren't hostile. Disarm, essentially.
While I agree with you, I think it's important to point out that even if we could travel at close to the speed of light, the vast majority of the universe is already out of reach for us. The universe keeps expanding, and 90% of it has already drifted out of reach. A lot of people don't know this, but stars aren't forever. There's only a tiny fraction of the total lifespan of the universe in which star formation is possible, and we currently live in the ass end of the era of star formation. Each year, there are only 3 new stars that are formed.
Soon, all the stars in the universe will slowly burn out and fade away, and due to the expanding nature of the universe, we'll slowly drift away, first from other galaxies and then from other stars entirely. Future life forms will look at their own sun but see a night sky full of darkness and think to themselves that their sun and world is the only thing that has ever existed. They'll be totally ignorant of the cosmos and how the universe was created because their probes and telescopes will see nothing but empty space.
And when the final stars collapse, the universe will be nothing but black holes swirling around in nothingness; no light, no life, just nothing, for trillions and trillions and trillions of years, in what scientists call 'the black hole era'. And when the final black hole itself dies out, entropy will set in and the universe will finally stop expanding, and nothing new will ever be created. Time and space will become meaningless as nothing ever happens again.
That's how this all ends.
if you lived in the 1800s, you would be predicting that we would all starve if humanity reached 2 billion population.
who the frick knows that solutions and information they come up with in a million years, the so called end of the universe is still in flux because people can actively influence it, even if it doesnt seem like it right now
Hey if you like this post I can recommend a really fricking good short story by Isaac Asimov called "The Last Question."
The two technicians should have filled that stupid computer with bananas kek
Shut the frick up scienceBlack person, you literally have no idea about any of that. "Scientists" are so fricking arrogant to make predictions like this based on arcane speculation when they can't even get us off this fricking rock.
>the universe will be cold and empty in 10 trillion years and we'll all be dead
>I better not ask out my cute college classmate who always laughs at my bad jokes, I dont want to bother her in her last moments
>he doesn't know that the universe will actually end by collapsing in on itself and forming a new universe with entirely different physical laws
ngmi
might have been quantum, iirc bronze age was one of the first to be hit by the droplet
only fleet ship i really remember is gravity
your big crunch is deboonked
meds and sproke it's still a possibility
Everything in this post is literal schizophrenic delusion
>humans breathed 30000 years ago
>aliens would’ve detected this
actual moronation
the universe is incredibly old, its moronic to think that all civilizations would enter the stage at the same time. someone must've been the first and their advantage would be so huge that they would win the galaxy by default.
we're already on the cusp of building space telescopes that can detect the atmospheric composition of exoplanets, a civilization that is capable of going between stars will have thousands of these telescopes.
keeping tabs on your neighborhood is beneficial in any case, either to know if and where your rivals are, or where to send your colonists.
the light information from earth's past is already traveling, there is no way for us to hide. if someone is nearby, looking for habitable planets, they wouldve found earth a long time ago.
>the universe is incredibly old,
No its not big dog. It's still incredibly young. Life is only possible for pic related of the total lifespan of the universe. We're in the ass end of the goldilocks period in which life is possible. The vast majority of the universe's life will be spent with blackholes swirling around and fading away.
If any of you has a free 30 min and space and science and shit, check out this vid. Warning, will cause existential dread.
Oh nooooooooooo, TIME is really long! Better get worried!!
Lol get fricked you low IQ moron
You don't feel anything knowing that the universe will last an unimaginably long time, but we only exist in a fraction of it? Well I do, and if that makes me a low IQ moron, I'd better go get a helmet. I guess you win, say, what's your prize for demolishing me so?
Realizing that a huge amount of time in the universe is completely pointless, so that our tiiiiny time means its actually super important. Since the rest of the time its just a bunch of ded rocks floating around.
GET DUNKED ON moron LLAWWLO
Who gives a shit about the universe? Humanity is all that matters.
I unironically agree. Humanity comes first, scientific progress goes along with it. All our achievements in fundamental physics can all be attributed to humanitarian achievements. If society decays you can forget about science. Huge leaps in physics happened when the west had its period of stability and the soviet system reached its peak before falling apart from its fundamental flaws. Only breakthroughs in philosophy and sociology could be the foundation of future scientific and technological advances.
I agree with what you said, but I meant my comment more in the sense of a general perspective. The perspective of "omg le universe is so vast and we are so insignificant" is not useful and fills people with dread. A more human centric perspective leaves more room for optimism and drive to explore the universe.
Oh well maybe I'm just sick of all the nihilistic bullshit that's around nowadays. It feels so suffocating.
Yep, scientific progress can never be the goal, it's the means of achieving goals and implementing ideas. The concept of progress itself is very dependant on humanitarian concepts and ideologies.
I'm also quite pessimistic, but now I'm getting back to studying philosophy, the history of religious ideas and stuff like that I managed to find some hope. Greek filosophy bloomed after the crisis of faith. Judo-Christian ideas grew on the remnants of Egyptian religious thought. Renaissance happened after the stagnant middle ages. Now we have an ideological crysis after the communism proved itself an utter failure and its rot tainted the west when it grew too soft and corrupt. A new philosophy should arise from that, but we might need things to get worse before it gets better. Also there's unironic inequality problem, the globalists try to solve it in their twisted way, and their failure should bring the incentive to find another solutions, taking the best from what's been achieved before.
Yep shits fricked, but there's nothing you or I can do about it. Unless you are planning to do activism or anything I recommend avoiding politics, and when it comes to philosphy just read shit that interests you, not things to figure out what went wrong. That shit just makes you unhappy.
if you feel existential dread by space stuff then you're looking at it the wrong way.
I only feel pride and wonder that I live in an age where people have managed to figure some this shit out. it has no bearing on my daily reality but I'm glad that theres time and resources available for people to study things like this
Personally I think any radiowaves or light information emanating from earth is irrelevant because it ends up incomprehensibly distorted through the vastness of time and space long before it reaches any hostile drones that would detect it as proof of existence to exterminate. it's like throwing a rock into one end of the ocean and there's a killing machine on the other end that activates if it detects the source of those ripples. that we haven't died yet isn't proof that it's not out there, just proof that--if it exists at all-- it hasn't discovered our existence. Either way, all of these kind of theories, dark forest, simulation theory, etc. operate basically the same way, and may as well not exist until the moment they're proven to exist.
>ends up incomprehensibly distorted through the vastness of time and space
but light doesnt. you can clearly see stars in the night sky. telescopes are getting better and better with every generation and it works even better in the infrared spectrum.
its both possible and beneficial to look for exoplanets, we're already doing this. who knows what will be possible to gather from light emissions in 500 years
Dark forest theory doesn’t take into account just how truly massive the haystack of the galaxy is to the needle of our civilization. All but the most intense radio signals will get drowned out in the cosmic microwave background radiation before reaching Alpha Centauri. Even things like the SETI Arecibo message partially achieves its strength through targeting a relatively small portion of the sky, and not broadcasting in all directions, so the aliens would need to be living in that direction. Secondly, the message was transmitted for only 3 minutes. This would give the aliens a three-light-minute thick ‘radio shell’ traveling towards them, and once it’s passed, if they weren’t listening, they will never pick it up. Plus they aimed it at M13 so it won’t even arrive for 25,000 years. No, it’s far more likely every single effort we’ve ever made to contact aliens has been drowned out by the intense vastness of both space and time, plus the immense sea of radiation and charged particles between us and any potential observer.
Also space travel is most likely absolutely impossible.
if your ship is large enough and self sustaining, it doesnt matter how long the journey is. building a 50 mile wide arcology with thousands of people on board is not totally unrealistic. they wont care if the journey takes hundreds of years
Space travel is completely possible. We’ve already done it. You mean interstellar space travel ‘on time scales compatible with human existence’ is completely impossible. However, this wouldn’t matter if you sent archived human genetic material which was then automatically lab grown into new people upon arrival at the destination planet.
>I didn't get asked to be vatted on TKG-540 and have a robot computer mum
>However, this wouldn’t matter if you sent archived human genetic material which was then automatically lab grown into new people upon arrival at the destination planet.
like Species (1995) or Titolo originale: The Astronaut's Wife (1999)?
I liked "Titolo originale: The Astronaut's Wife (1999)"
This.
Someone capable of galaxy space travel must also have have easy means to observe and even map everything.
So, either we are truly alone, or FTL and/or going into deep space is not really possible or viable for living beings.
Or maybe they are just observing and keeping us safe in a nature reserve.
China? yeah, nah
Don't the aliens literally call the Chinese characters 'bugs'?
They call humans bugs. One of the best moments of the whole series is when the aliens finally reveal themselves to humanity, and they use their technology to put messages in their eyes that say "YOU'RE ALL BUGS!"
They're referring to all humans, but yes. When speaking to the Chinese characters they call them bugs.
I thought the first book was pretty boring, even the first half of the second book. But the second half ot the dark forest all the way to the end of deaths end was pure kino
>wallfacers
>doomsday battle
>battle of darkness
>Luo Ji at the end of TDF
>Australia
>Pluto
I thought the ending of Deaths end was beautiful as well, two formerly mortal enemies cheering together at the literal end of time
I read online what the aliens supposedly look like. But theres nothing in the books that suggest that. Did i miss it?
The books say they have mirrored faces. Or something like that. And they probably are insectoid, and we know they can dehydrate and rehydrate far later.
The fourth not-canon book describes them in full.
see you people are talking about cool things but again when I watched the chink show it was people playing a VR game and when I watch the netflix ad it's mutts playing a VR game and also looks more stupid than the chink version
I am all for hundred year long physics wars, where the frick do I get that? Besides the book, I don't read
You must read. I didn't read for years before reading the series and it drew me in so much I binged 3 whole books. The simple fact is that no tv show will ever convey the series correctly. It must be read.
best I can do is an audiobook
You can try. I would have been totally lost with the Chinese names if I listened to it. I'm sorry. Reading it is literally the only choice.
This is probably the worst written book I've ever read, including fanfic and shit made by randos from Cinemaphile. All of the characters are nothing but exposition machines and the final third or so of the book is just the villain minutiously explaining their plan and the workings behind it through a pages long expository rant that reads like something written by a bot, followed by the most anticlimatic ayy twarting plan in the history of fiction.
The books do require you to have an active imagination, as the text is very sterile and cold. You kind of have to punch it up in your head. At least things like the Judgement Day climax in the first book.
wasn't the judgement day shit like halfway through book 2 when the invasion force finally arrives?
Judgement Day is the name of the ship that the ETO use as their headquarters in book 1. You are thinking of the Doomsday Battle in book 2. There is also the Battle of Darkness later in book 2.
oh right, the one that got shot with ball lightning
>Ball lightning
Explain to me why this was in the books/tv series.
reference to a different book by the same author
Thats funny
i guess so
wasn't blue space the one that practiced cannibalism?
>wasn't blue space the one that practiced cannibalism?
My memory is fuzzy, but I believe that was Bronze Age or Quantum.
>The books do require you to have an active imagination
Makes sense since the author's prose is completely devoid of it.
because he's chinese lmao
god no
I'm sorry if scifi is a skill issue for you.
I'm sorry but you can't try to be a smart intelligent physics based show and then do this
You can't have a bunch of stupid mutts and this fricking goober and have me try to take you seriously as intelligent
>"It doesn't matter, it's all the same"
The universe is going to end in 1400 years which is when the half-life of dark matter is up and radiation from the decay ends all life, galaxies fall apart and the heat death is accelerated
sorry chud hope you dont have plans 2000 years from now
I think my favorite moment of all three books is when Wang Miao, Da Shi, and the other physicist are in the field of locusts, after the Trisolarans have officially revealed themselves and declared war on humanity, and Da Shi gives a speech about how long we have hated bugs and yet they are still here in numbers that dwarf ours, despite our technology. The feeling of impending doom juxtaposed with that kind of beautiful realization of hope was exquisite.
>Their home system has three stars...
>tri.. solar..
>trisolarans!
hack. HACK.
I like to give the benefit of the doubt and say that in Chinese it was a bit more clever.
you don't think that this was their own name applied to themselves, do you?
im just posting dumb bullshit anon
we are called star pluckers but it should really be star ACKers.
Worst moments in this universe so far:
1. The big bang/origin of the universe
2. That fish homosexual that crawled out of the ocean
3. multi-cellular organisms evolving for the first time
4. single celled organisms capable of reproducing
5. Dylan Mulvaney being born
6. Cancer I guess, from here it's a list of annoying things.
oh I forgot consciousness
newbie
>5. Tsooft leaving their planet for Yuro-2 and establishing their colony
fixed
>professor wang
>The third body kind of uh forgot about the iron fleet, but it didn't forget about them.
>the creators of game of thrones
>woman main character
>netflix
>based on a chinese novel
good fricking god
Project Hail Mary when?
>dude, what if the SUN got COVID or something
andy weir is a hack
>andy weir is a hack
You take that you motherless coward.
When I read the dark forest theory I thought it was stupid bullshit and believed an optimistic outcome was more likely. Then I put the book down, hopped on to apex legends and immediately charged the direction of any gunfire or dropship.
poo
Wtf am I looking at?
who knows, maybe its some ETO leader, who was cut with nanofiber, but was resurrected and healed by trisolarans. They don't give a frick about being true to the book, so you can expect anything
he is zhang beihei
this looks truly moronic
i suspect there's going to be a lot of sophon infiltration of government/scientific bodies instead of just tiny proton sophons fricking up science experiments
plus the weeb sophon from the books appears to be some kind of assassin of scientists in this so that's even more moronic
remember that famous scene from the book where they watch indian Holi celebration on the big screen?
How forcefully diverse will the cast be?
Very
You have no idea, they have literally removed actual protagonists just to add more women and Black folk.
Thank god we got the 1:1 adaptation from based tensen
Now THAT was kino.
I am 10 episodes into the Chinese show and it is the boring shit I have ever watched. Nothing ever happens, I am extremely close to just reading the Wikipedia synopsis for the rest and moving on
nah bro hold on it's just about to get good in another 15 episodes or so
it's a page-by-page adaptation.
the Chinese media to view actual creativity with fear and suspicion and that kind of thing is the result.
Just skip all the ye wenjie in a cold radar base trash and its kino, also trims the entire season down to about 2 and a half hours
>Critics of Benioff and Weiss will also note plenty of old issues popping up again. There are confounding changes to a beloved book series (I cannot imagine these new characters going over well), indelicate handling of racial and gender dynamics (the remaining Chinese characters in this once fully-Chinese story are barely developed, outright villainous, or both)
>indelicate handling of racial and gender dynamics (the remaining Chinese characters in this once fully-Chinese story are barely developed, outright villainous, or both)
Sounds good to me.
three borry prolem
Meh, the chinese show was close enough to the book (except the middle 20 episodes which were complete boredom filly in which I skipped) that I don't really care if this one flops.
In the chinese show, in the video game thing, they represented the western historical as pathetic and foolish meanwhile the chinese ones were all cool af and clever. It will be very interesting to see if the ((western)) depiction of our great thinkers will be worse than the chinese themselves mocking us.
but ye they are going to make the good sword holder a black lesbian trans and the one who fricks it all up by being weak, a cis white man.
Just finished the first book recently. I still can't decide whether it was any good or not. Interesting ideas, but poorly written. I don't have high hopes for the show or movie or whatever Netslop is putting out.
second is better. third is weird because there's a lot of bad parts but overall it's great
2>1>>>3
Most scifi isn't written the best or has the best characters. It's more about the ideas and if we are lucky some world building.
I wouldn't say poorly written per se. Not in most parts
Main problems for me were two:
1 - The characters, 99% of times, were never proactive. The only exist to witness events unfolding.
2 - The "big solution" at the end of every arc/book is poorly delivered/anticipated and always feels like a last minute asspull
>The characters, 99% of times, were never proactive. The only exist to witness events unfolding
Is it bad enough that he might as well have just written a fake history book or do the characters actually add anything?
The first book is like that for the MC but there is more happening then the MC especially in the second book where basically everyone is things to do thing.
you guys have cucked your own selves so hard you start writing bad reviews before something even airs
this is why literally nobody takes you guys serious anymore