36 DC titles in the top 100
39 DC titles ranked below the top 100 (dead titles)
9 DC titles ranked below the top 200
52% of all of DC's publications are now on life-support.
https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/july-2022-single-issue-comic-book-sales-rankings/
>Carol still in the top 100
Phew
Onwards to #50
>Genis debuted outside
Damn
picture source?
Marvel Super Hero Adventures: Frost Fight
Link the actual chart instead of your shitty website.
S
Chadlav needs to fire the editorial team at DC Comics. Find non-degenerate people with a plan and vision for DC.
>A full 52% of DC Comics’ titles are dead titles walking. This is frightening. I am ready for David Zaslav to come parachuting into DC Comics’ office and start firing everyone at this point. It is untenable to have over half of your product be in the dead walking titles category.
The article agrees.
>muh degenerates..
where do you think you are
Wait, DC has editorial?
Yes. But they can be hard to notice at times.
It's surprising how well Marvel is doing considering...
Also, why aren't we getting sales numbers anymore?
>Also, why aren't we getting sales numbers anymore?
Because they're no longer in one place
DC's getting distributed by one distributor
Marvel's getting distributed by another
And the rest are at Diamond
So someone has to find a different way to calculate sales estimates because it all used to be under Diamond
So it's still a monopoly, you just now have three to deal with instead of one
>So it's still a monopoly, you just now have three to deal with instead of one
>monopoly
>three
sir.
IDW is also with Marvel at Penguin. And there's like a dozen small publishers that are available from both Lunar and Diamond.
good.
the american comic industry (DC and Marvel) should have died decades ago
Zaslav should close it down and stick to just selling trades.
DC should make more Straight characters into homosexuals and replace more White characters with minorities.
That will save their dead company.
GO WOKE GO BROKE
>They have to give black Batman extra obvious big lips to make sure you know he's black.
Disgusting
Go Woke, Go Broke
>Batman is the only thing keeping DC comics alive
I am shocked DC hasn’t changed their name to Batman Comics Comics.
Figurative representation of what's going on at DC right now.
Solution. Include Batman in every comic. Just if it's a one panel appearance or a phone call.
DC should hire you
Good.
>Promote one character exclusively for 30 years
>That character is now by far your most popular
Who could have seen this coming?
>Dark Crisis #2 coming in at the number 7 spot has to be disappointing for DC Comics given the insane buildup and hype for this big event. There is a good chance that this big event also drops out of the Top 10 before its conclusion.
>What also has to be distressing for DC Comics is how the Dark Crisis brand has been a total failure in selling tie-in issues. The Dark Crisis Worlds Without A Justice League Superman #1 one-shot came in at an unimpressive number 41 spot. The Dark Crisis tie-in issue The Flash #784 failed to make the Top 50 by coming in at the number 63 spot.
>Dark Crisis Young Justice #2 continues to completely crash and burn as it falls to the number 72 spot. This is no surprise as Meghan Fitzmartin’s story is completely unreadable. I would expect this title to crash out of the Top 100 before it concludes.
>The failure of all of the Dark Crisis tie-in issues shows how weak the Dark Crisis brand is despite the massive build-up and hype by DC Comics. At some point, DC Comics is going to have to start looking at making some serious changes in order to try and make themselves relevant again.
How did this happen? What made Dark Crisis upset people?
>given the insane buildup and hype for this big event
What insane build up and hype?
Seriously, who asked for Dark Crisis?
>Seriously, who asked for Dark Crisis?
Dark Crisis #2 is DC's second best selling title this month anon...
That's all that keeps DC rolling at this point. Batman and Events.
1. Coming so soon after Death Metal which people weren't receptive to
2. They hyped it up as the "death of the Justice League" and you could see a vast majority of people being indifferent to it, which should've been a massive warning sign to DC that much of their stuff since COVID happened like Future State, and all that, was not getting people interested at all.
Firstly, the publicity stunt of “killing off” the Justice League was terrible. Even if it was a fake-out, the whole act of killing off the JL was met with eye-rolls and face-palms. Everyone could tell it was a sales bait. And not even a good or original one.
Second, the writing is booooring. The issues are mostly people standing around and explaining things.
Thirdly, this is like the third or fourth time recently that the DCU has been faced with a omnipotent universe threat so soon.
Fourthly, DC has burnt a lot of good will. Not helped by most of their comics being mediocre at best, cringe at worst.
>Fourthly, DC has burnt a lot of good will. Not helped by most of their comics being mediocre at best, cringe at worst.
This. They want goodwill to come back? Throw away the major changes Bendis made to DC titles in the last 4 years. That's a first start.
>This is no surprise as Meghan Fitzmartin’s story is completely unreadable.
As shit! I didn’t know Normies were allowed to call out Fitzmartin! That is hilarious!
>As shit! I didn’t know Normies were allowed to call out Fitzmartin!
Wait, you didn't see the complaints her stuff was getting from outside here?
Honestly, I feel like the only way to save DC is to bring back Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo.
They are the only ones that can bring back readers.
>Honestly, I feel like the only way to save DC is to bring back Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo.
>They are the only ones that can bring back readers.
Nobody like Snyder after his Metal shit not even casual on twitter like his stuff anymore
no
>Dark Crisis Young Justice #2 continues to completely crash and burn as it falls to the number 72 spot. This is no surprise as Meghan Fitzmartin’s story is completely unreadable.
I’m glad others hate this shit.
You do understand that #72 makes it DC's 18th best selling book this month, right?
Means nothing when all their books are selling like crap and getting raped by Marvel.
(out of a total 75 titles)
which means it sold better than 76% of all other DC books.
jeez, no wonder they changed the name of the book
Massive build-up? I haven't seen much buildup or promotion for this at all. I don't think it's even affecting any of their other titles
>Wonder Woman can't even break into the Top 100
The absolute state of the "Trinity"
top 200*
Wonder Woman hasn’t been relevant since the New 52.
how long until Bendis creates a new OC for WB to make a show after Naomi failed?
I heard he was making a Legion script, but with Zaslav cancelling stuff I would it be shocked if it was shelved.
The best case for DC Comics is for Disney to buy them out. That way they can have some successful comics and movies.
That's the worst case.
>That's the worst case.
Crazed fanboy running up the office with an AR-15.
Too bad he failed.
>wanting to appear on side with some crazy who threatened a standard dictionary
I heard a rumor that this was proven false as the police said they had no such case?
You're thinking of this:
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/no-death-threats-to-dc-comics-reported-over-bisexual-superman/
hopefully Zaslav shuts down DC and loans the characters to other publishers like Image or IDW.
I thought Image was just for indie creators.
They are getting Transformers.
Image is a bunch of companies under the same umbrella
Image Central is strictly creator owned
Skybound is more lenient on licenses
For me its incredible how now DC turned JL, Titans, Aquaman, Green Arrow and Green Lantern into unsellable books. Like all the editors of those books should be fire immediately
To be fair, AT&T already fired most of their good editors during Covid. If DC fired more editors they may not have any left.
...But I thought twitter liked Batgirls?
>ask for a Cass and Steph book for years
>the writing is extremely terrible
Twitter have bots and bots cannot buy products
I mean if you program them to place orders then technically...
coomers+twitters like the idea of batgirls.
not actually buying the comics to support it
>At any rate, Batman Superman Worlds Finest treats readers to the Superman that they have been begging to get: Classic Clark Kent Superman. Not social commentary Jon Kent Superman. Not Planet Hulk Clark Kent Superman. Just Clark Kent as the Big Red S acting like the classic and iconic superhero that he is. It really is not that complicated, DC Comics. It really isn’t.
Frick continuity. Every issue should revolve around a single character and be a self contained story that makes no reference to any previous story unless it is a sequel to said story. Each story should be no more than 3 issues and preferably 1. Frick specialty shitholes. Lower the price to $1 a comic, no ads, sell them at grocery stores, Walmarts etc. The industry should consist only of straight white married men over the age of 35. There I saved comics.
>Frick continuity.
This is the exact mentality that made comics even somehow EVEN MORE insular in the last 20 years than the decades where people were even more anal about continuity. Frick off.
I mean, it's pretty much what is happening right now. Infinite Frontier said "everything is canon" and now behold the results.
It's been like this ever since the first Crisis.
1. Continuity gets too confusing, people leave in droves.
2. DC reboots to streamlines continuity.
3. Neckbeards sends angry fan letters.
4. DC restores the mess they had.
5. Go back to 1.
Wrong
1. DC sees people leave in droves, thinks it's because continuity gets too confusing.
2. DC reboots to streamline continuity, but makes things even more confusing in the process (Legion of Superheroes history, Donna Troy's past, Hawkman's past after COIE, everything that happened in the New 52)
3. Fans leave in droves
4. Go back to 1
A lot of this can be blamed on DC not writing for sustainability when they reboot their IPs.
Case in point: Azzarello's Wonder Woman reboot. As good as that series was, it made it practically impossible for new writers to continue the property.
>Lower the price to $1 a comic, no ads, sell them at grocery stores, Walmarts etc.
Good job, you just bankrupted yourself in couple of months.
Frick, I though the "frick continuity" demand was smoothbrained enough, that I didn't bother to read the rest of his post.
>Frick specialty shitholes.
>sell them at grocery stores, Walmarts etc.
Specialty Shitholes are the ones that will take the product and not demand to return all of it.
Grocery stores, Walmarts, etc will demand credit for unsold product. In other words, the comics company will lose money on them if they don't sell.
Walmarts also vary in how they display or even stock product, some are also shit at stocking product where you can see them.
>Lower the price to $1 a comic,
>no ads,
No grocery store or 7-11 or whatever will take a magazine at $1. They won't make money on it.
I swear most of the people demanding to get rid of all comic shops and place comics back in 7-11s or whatever have no real knowledge of how any of those markets work
What's your suggestion then?
Don't ditch the comic shops (because they're still useful in different ways), but try a lot of different formats to get them sold in other places. Get the comic shops to understand there may be books that aren't exclusive to them because if they don't grow an audience, there's gonna be less people going to their shops.
Digital needs another alternative to Comixology because Amazon screwed everything up after buying it out. It also can't be a comic company-exclusive app alone because people prefer having everything on one app, similar to how people preferred everything being on Netflix as opposed to buying multiple streaming channels
This is the most reasonable take in the thread but I think it will still require some compromise with the businesses.
Does anyone use DCU Infinite? It seems like its not a bad app for DC's digital comic library.
It just needs to keep making exclusive content. I don't know if the CWverse, Batman 89 or continued Animated Series comics are the best choice, but they're better served as digital content.
Honestly, there should be digital comics for every DC Multi-media tie-in: CWverse comics, HBOMax series comics, movie comics. Short 10-12 pages, bi weekly.
Maybe have some anchor digital anthologies: Legends of the Dark Knight, Adventures of Superman, Sensational Comics - digital series about the Trinity families and tales of the multiverse.
Try to get the Walmart comics up and running again. I think the 100 page issues are better than the package of 4 random floppies.
Keep it to a tight line of 10-12 heavy hitter books: Superman, Batman, Justice League, Teen Titans, a Villains team-up book, etc.
Keep the designs and stories as "meat and potatoes": classic looks, maybe some sorta boring writers to write kid-friendly not-edgy stories.
Curate a better selection of reprints in the back-up stories. Maybe highlight specific first issues, first appearances, classic storylines, etc.
If Walmart doesn't want to play ball, then maybe Target or Walgreens or Barnes&Noble can stock them.
Continue focusing on Black Label, Graphic Novels for Young Adults and Graphic Novels for Kids. Don't know why they got rid of the Ink and Zoom names, it was good branding for all three.
Keep making these Elseworlds style writing-for-the-trade books like Jurassic League and DC vs Vampires.
Floppies need to go back to "meat and potatoes." Rebirth style. Legacy characters should be introduced in the 10page backup stories of Action, Detective, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Justice League.
Could Superman and Wonder Woman and Justice League afford to put out a "Batman Urban Legends" family anthology book?
DC really needs to regroup on the Big 6, Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, Lex Luthor and the Batman villains, and something with the Constantine/Swamp Thing/Dark universe. Those are its most recognizable brands. They can pad around them with Shazam, Nightwing, Birds of Prey, Green Arrow
"Wonder Comics" wasn't a bad idea removed from the Bendis stink. The legacy characters/5G/diversity friendly sidekicks should exist in a side imprint of mini-series, back-ups, team-ups, etc.
There should be a lot more synergy with DC and WB. They should be making more popular kids comics with Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, Tom & Jerry, Jellystone, Teen Titans Go, Lego DC, Multiversus, Space Jam, Gremlins.
>DC really needs to regroup on the Big 6
God I would love if the market would let us go back to a world where each character/team had ONE title.
There's a reason why the Ultimate Universe was so kino for so long. Because it wasn't bloated with shitty spinoffs and multiple ongoings. It was just Avengers, Spidey, X-Men, and F4, then *occasional* miniseries to fluff things out. No crossover events, no tie-ins, no bloat.
I know that tie-ins (typically) sell, but they're just so toxic imo.
I'd agree but I'm okay with keeping Detective and Action for their legacy and history, just go back to having back-up stories for non-Superman/Batman stories in both.
Yeah, I'm not saying it has to be strictly just 1 book per character.
I did always like the idea of having "Batman" for Bruce's ongoing adventures, then Tec for side stories, almost as an anthology of sorts.
The problem is when you've got Batman, Tec, Batman & Robin, All-Star Batman, Batman Inc, I Am Batman, and whatever the frick else.
All of this is to get comics in people's hands but it needs to be able to hold an audience. I think they need to have some creative focus line-wide, then advertise, then look at new ways to distribute. The New 52 succeeded at the advertising and it promised a creative focus but it never fulfilled on that.
You know it's bad when they still won't release their own sales.
Give them a break, they only have a handful of series.
lying
The data doesn't lie. DC comics is going down the crapper.
It is true. Even batfamily doesn't sell. Robin is a garbage comic
I'm not even sure how DC could frick itself over this bad in such a short period of time.
Get woke go broke.
You guys know the only reason companies are going woke is because BlackRock: Investment Management & Financial Services ordered them to right?
Marvel's doing great in comparison
>DC Comics placed nine titles in the Top 25. This is a huge improvement over the pathetic three titles that they placed in the Top 25 in March 2022. Of course, DC Comics’ success was powered by the Batman franchise. Six of the nine titles were Batman titles. Five of the six Batman franchise titles star or co-star Bruce Wayne. So, the story remains the same. Bruce Wayne has to shoulder the burden of dragging DC Comics carcass across the finish line each and every month.
An excellent summary of what's going on in DC Comics in April 2022
https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/april-2022-single-issue-comic-book-sales-rankings/
Makes
even more appropriate.
ITT marvelgay wankfest
Marvel isn't the company where over half of their titles are on life support.
Here's Marvel in Comparison
>58 Marvel titles in the top 100
>12 Marvel titles ranked below the top 100 (dead titles)
>0 Marvel titles ranked below the top 200
>17% of all of Marvel's publications are now on life-support.
If DC wasn't so shit it would get some action too.
If you saw the ASM threads, Marvel is far from perfect in the eyes of anonymous.
Outside of stuff like ASM, Marvel doesn’t get much hate here because their books are mostly okay. Nothing great, but nothing offensive.
Most of DC’s books are crap. The writing is crap. Most of the art for the books are crap. There’s too many crap writers like Fritzmartin, Thorne, and Bendis. Continuity is all over the place. And the universe just feels overall dull after being destroyed in Death Metal. It feels like the universe has no direction or purpose (as bad as Didio was, he at least felt like a captain steering the ship).
And it is hard to trust DC after they keep burning bridges.
What is the most baffling is that DC doesn't seem to care that their comicbook quality is in the gutter.
I guess it's the opposite of "too big to fail". They are too small and insignificant for WBD to pay any attention to them and WBD needs them as IP farms, so they don't care. And as such you have such creators like Taylor, Cloonan, Ayala or Fitzmartin doing whatever the frick they want.
DC gave a roster of Batman villains to Red Hood and yet the character is a failure. Kill him again DC, he is useless.
Hope you will enjoy 10 years with Batb***h and Tom Taylor, Dickgay.
Jason's worst comics are better than every Grayson comic ever
DC is a fricking shitshow
Yeah, except Dwayne Johnson is an actual box office draw, unlike some random Mexican chick race-swapped in for Barbara Gordon.
According to whom? Because these nerd bloggers with inside scoops didn’t even know batgirl was being pulled before it happened
Ironic percentage, also frick DC.
Thank god for Batman
Why can't you homosexuals enjoy things without obsessing over sales numbers?
>No you can't criticize the company for making bad decision, you've just gotta trust them and consoom.
No
can't you stop being a chill? no? too bad.
And it's mostly the Batman shit too. DC fans actually deserve what they get.
Flash and Robin are the only good titles dc puts out
This homie sounds whiny as frick. Not everything is gonna sell like Batman or Spider-Man or else they wouldn't be Batman and Spider-Man.
Haven't they always had a 36-40% market share?
I’m surprised DC ended the Joker comic, it seemed to be a great success with that placement.
Tynion had a specific ending in mind. They're relaunching with a new #1 in October written by Rosenberg, and this one might actually be a Joker book and not a stealth-Gordon book featuring Joker.
funny how you can pinpoint the exact moment in which DC fricked up
>pic
well isn't that ominous