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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only star wars movie worth a damn is the first one. I'll gladly forget a franchise exists, even Empire gets on my nerves with the silly Yoda shit and Chewbacca never shutting the frick up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. Original SW is the only good one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      OP

      By the first one you mean ANH, right?
      I'd disagree still, I think Revenge of the Sith is pretty great too. Good pacing, emotional, memorable scenes (inb4 >meme lines)

      Your assessment of ESB is precisely my assessment. Basically only 3 things happen in this movie: Hoth, excruciatingly boring swamp scenes, and Luke duels Vader

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok but Luke's Vader duel is easily the best part of the franchise....hell hoth is the most memorable part

        • 3 weeks ago
          OP

          I used to think so too when I first watched the franchise in childhood and you probably haven't rewatched the movies in a long time or ever. After a rewatch recently I was surprised by a lot of things - what was there and what was not there. Memory likes to play tricks on you, embellishing stuff

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah I watch empire pretty regularly. I also enjoy more star wars movies than most star wars fans - I like all of the prequels and even episode 6.

            >but you are not a jedi yet
            Yep, I know what I'm gonna drunkenly watch on YouTube tonight

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just knowing what happens in 5 makes the experience including the final duel worse. You just want it to end, at least that's my experience. Whereas the battle of Yavin is ever suspenseful

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >knowing the end of the movie makes it worse
                I don't really know what you mean. The ending is regarded as the standard of how to do the middle part of a trilogy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What I mean is that ESB has lower rewatch value than ANH

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >prequelgay dislikes Empire because it's the "most boringest one"

        total zoomer death

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Decided to drop the namehomosexualry this late into the thread. I'm an OT fan still, definitely better than the prequels, 1 is a kids movie that's I guess fun with a "little" suspense of disbelief and as guilty pleasure but it doesn't fit to the rest of the franchise at all. 2 is unfortunately probably the worst part excluding the sequels, although I like the politics in it, but RotS has the same politics in it too, except also so much more

          So overall the OT outshines the prequels by a large margin, except for RotS which is good, even iconic Id say. But 1 out of 3 parts being good does not a trilogy make
          4>3>5>6 (I don't even want to include the rest of the prequels in this extended ranking, but if I had to, I'd write >>2>1)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Decided to drop the namehomosexualry this late into the thread. I'm an OT fan still, definitely better than the prequels, 1 is a kids movie that's I guess fun with a "little" suspense of disbelief and as guilty pleasure but it doesn't fit to the rest of the franchise at all. 2 is unfortunately probably the worst part excluding the sequels, although I like the politics in it, but RotS has the same politics in it too, except also so much more

        So overall the OT outshines the prequels by a large margin, except for RotS which is good, even iconic Id say. But 1 out of 3 parts being good does not a trilogy make
        4>3>5>6 (I don't even want to include the rest of the prequels in this extended ranking, but if I had to, I'd write >>2>1)

        A New Hope elevated "science fiction," and Empire Strikes Back elevated Star Wars itself. Empire did at least two things for the franchise:
        >established how lightsaber duels are supposed to "feel" in terms of stakes and choreography
        >establishes the Force as this wondrous magical energy
        The latter of which is the reason why a whole generation of fans were so butthurt about midichlorians being introduced. A New Hope is the best movie of Star Wars from a cinematic point of view, but your failure to take anything else from Empire but "boring swamp scenes" just screams "I dont actually watch movies at all"

        What I mean is that ESB has lower rewatch value than ANH

        >the middle of a story that has to bridge to 1 and 3 is less watchable than the stand-alone beginning or the end
        moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Midichlorians are based if you understand how organelles evolved.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I personally don't care about midichlorians or not, but I'm just saying Yoda's speech about it in Empire was truly something.

            Wasn't vader always Luke's father, so that the actor himself was fired and voiced over because he revealed the spoiler shortly after the film was done?

            No. David Prowse was voiced over since Episode IV because his natural voice wasn't very menacing. As for the father plot twist, there is no indication that George ever planned it from the beginning. Apparently, Luke was told of the plot twist on set, but the script line that was read about by Prowse was "Obi-Wan killed your father." The real line was added during dubbing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Obi-Wan killed your father
              What a based line. They should have kept it and revealed that Anakin is Luke's father in Revenge of the Sith. It makes it seem like Vader is in perpetual seethe mode over being dropped in lava.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the more i think about it, the more i believe that a decent chunk of ot 'fans' really only like esb
    a lot of them dislike rotj for one reason or the other, with most not acknowledging the real problem with it, which is ford and fisher giving poor performances
    hell, a lot of them will readily parrot the myth that the original star wars was good in spite of george, ignoring the extensive documentation proving the opposite and claim that he had much less involvement with esb, which is blatantly untrue considering he both wrote the script, funded the film, and all but ghost directed the film asides from some dialogue touch ups
    i guess most of this comes from kurtz being asshurt from getting kicked out of rotj and spreading misinformation to hide the fact that george fired him for fumbling the budget

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >esb, which is blatantly untrue considering he both wrote the script, funded the film, and all but ghost directed the film asides from some dialogue touch ups

      He didn't write ESB, nor did he direct it. The one he "shadow directed" was RotJ. If you think George had any creative involvement in ESB beyond the bullet points story beats you're a dishonest Lucas shill who probably believes he donated his disney money to charity lmao

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most correct ranking ever. Also great because there are no prequels or sequels in sight.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6>5>4

    Endor aside, ROTJ was the best one until Lucas ruined his own franchise with the special editions. Introducing Jabba, The Emperor, and Jedi Luke were the best parts of the entire franchise.
    But Jabba’s lame CGI cameo they added in ANH ruined the whole opening reveal in ROTJ, and Vader’s NOOOO is just a lame addition to a perfectly good ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      OP

      RotJ is literally just a worse rehash of ANH in my opinion

      4 is clearly the best but 5 is something special. Best music and the step up in production value probably blew peoples minds in 1980 just as hard as the first one did in 1977.

      The only really special thing in ESB is the ending and the Han-Leia love theme tbqh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah "Hyperspace" is the real deal. And yes the Vader/Luke duel lived up to the hype.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Empire's cinematography and lighting are incredible. It's the most visually stunning Star Wars film by a mile only the Last Jedi comes close

        • 3 weeks ago
          OP

          >only the Last Jedi comes close
          Lol is this a joke?
          I'm asking seriously btw, I haven't seen the sequels except for TFA which sucked so hard I decided to drop the sequel trilogy altogether lol. Cuz that horse they beat wasn't just dead, it turned to dust

          I thought rogue one was OK and I really, really like Andor

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            TLJ has has a beautiful color palette and interesting camerawork, unlike JJ Abrams who's an upjumped tv director

            TLJ is easily the best of the sequels unless you're a crybaby who can't emotionally handle Luke Skywalker having a midlife crisis.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I haven't seen it
              That anon is right, TLJ is awful but it looks incredible, almost as good as empre

              Interesting. I guess I'll watch it then. But I don't have to bother with 8, please?
              TFA sucked so hard. Adam Driver sucks. Kylo Ren sucks and goes nowhere. The supreme leader or whatever sucks. In general the first order shit is an awful cringe rehash as if GPT made it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You mean 9? Yes don't even bother with 9 it has 0 redeeming qualities. As much as TLJ pisses me off from a narrative perspective episode 9 is much worse somehow. I'd say if you like star wars episode 8 is worth watching once

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kylo Ren is the best part of the sequels, idk how you can hate him even in 7. but yeah you can skip Rise of Skywalker, it's awful. It's competently directed from a mechanical filmmaking standpoint (unlike the prequels) but the scriptt feels written by an AI and scenes do not follow from each other.

                Thankfully the Last Jedi kind of ends conclusively. Even when I saw 8 on opening night tripping acid with my friends I kind of felt like Star Wars was thematically concluded after that movie, and anything that came afterwards would just be perfunctory. 9 ended up being so much worse than that lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You mean 9? Yes don't even bother with 9 it has 0 redeeming qualities. As much as TLJ pisses me off from a narrative perspective episode 9 is much worse somehow. I'd say if you like star wars episode 8 is worth watching once

                Now I'm confused. The other guy said 9 is second only to ESB :-DDD and another anon added it has peak cinematography. I guess they were trolling. Not gonna waste my time then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Episode 9 is The rise of Skywalker. We were talking about episode 8 - the last jedi

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ohhhh okay lmao my bad. See I excluded myself from the sequels so much I didn't even know that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Disney really blundered in not following the expanded universe material and making it largely non-canon. Thrawn would have been an amazing villain, much better than Snoke. Jacen Solo is a better version of Kylo Ren with an arc. Even the Yuuzhan-Vong would have been cool albeit difficult to adapt and way different from anything else in the other trilogies. I guess the problem is that there is way too much of the material from the novels to make into 3 movies. Disney still should have tried.

              • 3 weeks ago
                OP

                Thrawn is the only passable thing in Ahsoka. God what a waste of time that "show" was

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > "Lord Thrawn, our ships have been destroyed."

                "Good. That gives us the advantage of not having to concern ourselves with our ships."

                > "Lord Thrawn, they have escaped..."

                "Good. Exactly as I have planned."

                > "Lord Thrawn, our soldiers have been routed."

                "Good. This enables us to recruit new, better, deader soldiers."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ahsoka was such a dumb show

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With leadership like this you can really imagine what it was like to be in TU Bruiser in Ramadi

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Abrams is the one who fricked up the sequels far more than Johnson.

              Johnson, for all his many faults, at least had the right idea in introducing new stuff and telling a new story, whereas Abrams did far more damage by cynically recycling memberberries from the OT.

              Abrams effectively ends Finn's character arc before the end of the first act of TFA, and has Rey go full Jedi before the end of TFA, fricking up the two sequels that would follow.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I haven't seen it
            That anon is right, TLJ is awful but it looks incredible, almost as good as empre

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4 is clearly the best but 5 is something special. Best music and the step up in production value probably blew peoples minds in 1980 just as hard as the first one did in 1977.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda strange how the first two movies feel like real movies, while ROTJ instantly feels like George-slop since the very beginning.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROTJ mainly because Jabba, The Emperor and the final battle. I don't even mind the Ewoks.
    ANH gets bogged down in its middle act. The Death Star scenes are boring, even more so than the Ewoks.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3>5>1>6>4>2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Switch 4 and 6 literally the only problem

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        6 is way better than 4

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I liked the variety of scenery in RotJ more. New hope is influential but it's also very by the books.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      switch 2 with 6

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like to watch Star Wars (what is now called episode 4) from the lens that everything that came after it doesn’t exist. Vader isn’t Luke’s father, Luke and Leia aren’t related etc etc. It is a much better film that way and I can see why it was so popular. Very strong theme of man’s relationship to technology (same theme as THX1138 and American Graffiti as well). ESB ruined Star Wars.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't vader always Luke's father, so that the actor himself was fired and voiced over because he revealed the spoiler shortly after the film was done?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5 > 4 > 6

    ewoks are only fun as a kid. inb4 star wars is for kids

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ewoks are like 12 minutes of the movie. How do zoomers love 3 when it’s carried by Ian McDiarmid’s performance as the Emperor but they shit on ROTJ when it introduced that character and tons of other new stuff besides ewoks?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4 > 5 > 6
    1>2>3 The prequels are shit Star Wars is the first movie.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the original movie's a bit fricked in how easily the heroes are able discover and sneak around the death star.
    >Death Star team reveal themselves and tractor beams the heroes in
    >leaves their ship parked right in the docking bay like its normal traffic
    >allows the heroes enough time to prepare for the search party
    >the heroes then are free to sneak around and scour the place with no fear of cameras
    It also feels off how Luke receives his dad's Lightsaber and is trained with it, yet never uses it in the movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not perfect to be sure, but nothing is. Still I think it's less flawed than the other parts. Which means it's pretty fricking great :3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's not perfect to be sure, but nothing is
        Right, but I really can't get over the idea that some futuristic, super important military base, like the death star wouldn't have security cameras. Surely, military bases in the 70s had them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not perfect to be sure, but nothing is
      Right, but I really can't get over the idea that some futuristic, super important military base, like the death star wouldn't have security cameras. Surely, military bases in the 70s had them.

      There were cameras in the prison block, and Chewie, Han, and Luke spent time shooting all of them. They also spent the entire time sneaking around the Death Star in Stormtrooper uniforms, didn't they?

      From the Empire's point of view, they picked up the Falcon because it might be suspicious, but they weren't sure. The way both the officer and Vader treated it was like "We happened to run into this random pick-up truck that matches the description" but no one seemed convinced it was *THE* ship they were looking for

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There were cameras in the prison block, and Chewie, Han, and Luke spent time shooting all of them. They also spent the entire time sneaking around the Death Star in Stormtrooper uniforms, didn't they?
        But how does Obiwan not immediately get spotted in the docking bay when he leaves the ship with no disguise? They should have cameras overlooking the ship they just kidnapped.

        >From the Empire's point of view, they picked up the Falcon because it might be suspicious, but they weren't sure. The way both the officer and Vader treated it was like "We happened to run into this random pick-up truck that matches the description" but no one seemed convinced it was *THE* ship they were looking for
        I mean, any ship they just snatch out of space and drag into their secret super weapon military base should be treated as hostile.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He uhh used the Force lmao. As for the Falcon, I don't think so. Imagine the military just glassed some village, they find someone wandering into the ruins so they pick him up because he kinda matches the description of a known terrorist. It's not setting off klaxons and everyone is rushing to the scene, but they can at least put him in a holding cell until they figure out what to do with him; sounds like that's what happened with the Falcon initially

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They should have atleast immediately dropped the ship off in some sort of inpound chamber or something, they shouldn't have just left it in the docking bay so that it can fly out as soon as the tractor beam stops. Regardless of how inconsequential the suspects end up being, they pretty much have to hold them indefinitely(or just execute) to preserve deathstar secrecy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But how does obi wan not immediately get spotted in the docking bay when he leaves the ship with no disguise?
          >"Look over there, a suspicious guy just came from that ship"
          >"Let me check. Nah, that's just the Emperor who got lost in his way to the bathroom again."

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how does the death star move around? I dont see thursters anywere, does it move by sling shot manouvers all over the place? Fricking dumb.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it dumb? It's the most cost effective way to move something that huge.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's got a... hmmm.... yeah it's called a... uhh.... how about a "core drive"? Yeah, that's it.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6 > 5 > 4

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3 > 1 > 4 > 6 > 2 > 5

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there are prequel redditors out there that actually rank them like this

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4>5>6>3>1>2 then just cherry pick the games, comics, shows and games from there

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6>5>3>1>4>2

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Empire comes back as New Order in sequel trilogy.

    They should have grown some balls and come up with a new threat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Creativity has gone so far out the window they made a fricking Gollum video game

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3>5>1>6>4>2

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5 > 4 > 6

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But we all agree 2 fricking sucks and was always the worst of George's 6 movies

    • 3 weeks ago
      OP

      I'm torn whether 1 is worse than 2 or the opposite. 1 is more fun but also way more cringe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2 has nothing on par with the podrace and Maul vs Kenobi and Qui Gon scenes that are both absolutely perfect action scenes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          2 has the sonic bombs. It's not much but it has that.

          Also Dex's 50s dinner.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            2 had such potential with the assassins and Obi-wan/Jango rivalry, but squandered it hard, it's also by far the ugliest film of the 6, I don't know how 1 managed to looks so much better than it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              iirc 2 was the first film done entirely with digital cameras, while ep1 was traditional
              it's a shame too, a lot of the impressive practical work got muddled to the point where people thought it was cg, like the geonosis arena

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1 felt like an earnest kid's movie made with enthusiasm whereas 2 felt like cynical kid's slop made only to sell toys

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