>59 episodes
>becomes saul off-screen
LMAO
Be gentle on them Cinemaphile, they are still coping.
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>59 episodes. >becomes saul off-screen
>59 episodes
>becomes saul off-screen
LMAO
Be gentle on them Cinemaphile, they are still coping.
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I stopped watching this shows after like 4 episodes. What are you talking about?
He gets his friend murdered and his wife leaves him because of this. Suddenly there is a time skip and he is the same Saul from Breaking Bad.
That sounds moronic. Good thing I stopped watching this show early.
>howard and saul were friends
lol an unironic speedwatcher. wow.
Howard was nice to Jimmy. Jimmy just sperg’d out constantly because he was too much of a b***h to accept he played a hand in chucks death. Literally says it to Cheryl. they were acquaintances at the very least and there’s really no explanation to go from jimmy to saul other than outright calling him a sociopath, which I honestly don’t think he is. Just a failure to bridge together a prequel, it was inevitable
kek fricking hell
probably planning a netflix movie that shows it
That sounds dumb. At least Kim is OK I guess
>his friend
>his wife leaves him because of this
Not understanding basic plot points, jesus christ.
More like he and his wife get an innocent associate murdered in front of them, and unable to cope with what they've done Kim leaves him, depriving an already 75% Saul'd Jimmy of the only thing actually keeping him from going All Saul. The smash cut works because you have all the information required to understand his change, a montage would be corny and redundant
The smash cut to Saul after seeing Jimmy dead inside and broken was way more impactful than another montage showing him building up to Saul. What more did you want to see regarding his transition to Saul, really?
I honestly don't kow what you homosexuals mean by "becomes saul". It's a meaningless troll statement.
It's moronic mentality derived from CapeShitters.
They see any character through the superhero lens.
This mentality is literally innate to the show’s universe
>dude lmao let’s just randomly make Jimmy and Kimmy evil because..because LE HEISENBERG
Holy homosexual, the show died after S3, possibly S4. Once lalo was introduced and we started seeing the connections to reddit Bad is when it jumped the shark (which was inevitable, considering it’s a prequel). No need to get mad at people for recognizing this, we all know the first 3-4 seasons were the peak and it’s been downhill since
>dude lmao let’s just randomly make Jimmy and Kimmy evil because..because LE HEISENBERG
That's not at all what happens though, they gradually become awful people. Wasn't random at all
I agree the show peaked in S3, and the cartel stuff is a cancer they carried because of its nature as a prequel for BB, but they didn't just "become evil", There was an evolution that grew from things they shown from basically season 1.
Kim herself says she didn't tell Jimmy about Lalo being alive, because she was having fun being "bad" and this is something they established very early on, with them running scams for fun, and Kim enjoying the thrill of it.
People not understanding how Jimmy doesn't "become Saul" at one specific point (like a comic book villain) but was simply always that guy, since it was his coping mechanism, shown from S1, are unironically being filtered.
>we started seeing the connections to reddit Bad
literally first episode have tuco salamanca
>Kim leaves the apartment
>Jimmy looks straight at the camera
>"Guess I'm Saul Goodman now baby!"
>Instantly loses hair, gets comb over, puts earpiece on and starts wisecracking to Francesca
Damn Vince really let us down on this one
>lets make a show about saul
>except it is actually about mike, gus, his gf and some random spics
Can someone explain why would Jimmy hate Howard after discovering that he was just trying to not expose his own brother as a complete jealous butthole?
Jimmy forgives Howard after figuring out the truth about his brother and then he just suddenly decides to ruin his life because...?
Shit writing. This show is simply an emperor has no clothes situation. The latest season has really revealed how bad it is.
You’re a moron and I hope you get cancer of the ass
Sorry but I believe the show is bad. I think after a year of it being off the air, more people will come to this conclusion.
get fricked. few months after the finale airs people will realize it wasn't kino
I'm beginning to think that you are all Bravo Vince's solid guys at this point.
Jimmy never seemed that into their big elaborate plan. It was Kim who pushed him into it
jimmy shits in cars with children in them
he's a terrible person
He says it in the episode. Howard had Chuck's respect and he didn't. He resented him for it.
He literally says it in the latest episode for all the brainlets and speedwatchers -- he's always envied Howard and has projected his insecurities onto him.
He did it for her.
Jimmy didn't hate Howard, he just lashed out at him because it was the only way he had of hurting Chuck after he died
Yeah fr at least iron man actually builds the suit and we get to see it. He even has a different suit for each film. Why can’t we see Jimmy become Saul already
>capeshitter
Checks out
So you wanted to see Jimmy create a horrifying skin suit that makes him look like Saul Goodman?
YOUUU MAKKKKE ME HAPPYYY -ACK
im saul now
Could you imagine getting a double blowjob from the Salamanca twins? They'd be licking your shaft and taking turns sucking your tip in sync. Unnerving and hot at the same time.
Their style of writing was easy to hide in BB with the big action/drama going on and great acting by Bryan and Aaron. Shows like this, however, rely on the writing since it's slower paced and lower budget. Sure, things don't always need a twist or big reveal, but it has to compensate some how. This mundane look into the life of some lawyers and drug dealers is entirely too bland to be entertaining. Lalo's death was shit, and now the transition to Saul happens off screen? There is no tension, no real drama. This season it feels like the writers just gave up and wanted to rush through it. They started out with questions like "Why does he act the way he does? What happens to Kim?" etc, and they answered it in the simplest form possible.
>Because Kim left him
>Lalo dies because gus shot him when he came after him
At least with Hector, how he ended up in a wheelchair was entertaining. Disappointed.
Agreed
Jimmy became Saul the moment Chuck died.
i actually liked it, found it effective, it wasnt the moment he became saul. it was the moment that Jimmy died. It's ok if its not for you, but i hope you find a show you like someday.
Anon, things aren't that black and white when it comes to opinions. Sure, OP might be a BCS bashing dick, but you have to admit this writing has gone down hill. I enjoyed 1-5 and I hate this season. It's dragging its feet, and that's really saying something considering I loved season 4.
This is the payoff time, and there's no payoff. They did the lawyer shit really well, but the BB-lite absolutely sucks. Aside from bagman.
The writing has honestly been consistently good IMO, the only jarring things are when Bob Odenkirk is asked to act sad or heartbroken. It's very hit or miss and ruined some of the scenes for me.
This. The show isn't about "becoming" like Breaking Bad was, it was about "losing". Walt became Heisenberg because that identity grew to usurp the lie that was Walter White. Jimmy became Saul because he lost everything that made him Jimmy.
He became Saul at the end of season 4. Watch the show.
He was ALWAYS Saul deep down, that's the point. What we're seeing isn't him becoming Saul, but gradually losing little pieces of Jimmy as more and more shit gets piled onto him until Saul is all that's left. Last episode was just the last piece of Jimmy finally dying.
Very true. I meant in the sense that he got his new practice under a new name and is now a full time sleazy criminal defense attorney.
He's had Saul/Slipping Jimmy in him since day one, but it was buried by his desire to be a proper lawyer and honor his brother, and later to be with Kim.
Yeah, throughout the show we see the conflict between his wanting to be Slippin' Jimmy through instinct and talent, and feeling like he has to be Jimmy McGill due to his love for his brother and Kim, his desire to be a good person fundamentally and his need to be respected/loved. Once he lost all of that being Slippin' Jimmy is almost not even enough to mask his utter self-loathing, misery and aversion to everything Jimmy McGill stood for. In that sense, Saul Goodman is almost like Slippin' Jimmy festered and grew from a tumour to a full-on cancer that consumed every ounce of his decaying spirit.
Gouldgays SEETHING and COPING right now
this is almost literally what happened. So fricking terrible. This timeskip proves Gould and his writers had no idea how to connect Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman, the dissonance between these two characters ('Saul' and Jimmy) is MASSIVE. And the show makes no attempt to bridge this gap. How disappointing.
Jiren?
BCStrannies on suicide watch, coping eternally with
>"no no no bro you dont understand youre supposed to IMAGINE how jimmy becomes saul, its not the writers job of the saul goodman prequel series to show you a saul goodman prequel series"
>Convince Jimmy to stay when it's better he leaves you
>Ditch Jimmy when he needs you and things are finally safe.
I hate women so much it's unreal.
I'm genuinely struggling to figure out exactly what you morons wanted to see in terms of Jimmy becoming Saul. What more did you want? What more did they need to show you?
They expected a Heisenberg moment where Jimmy completely destroys someone through a scam/lawyery shenanigans I guess.
They got that, though. It's what happened to Howard.
Which is what he did to Howard
he did that to both Howard AND Chuck
At least Howard gets to cuddle with Lalo for eternity.
and this is how i know there must be a couple people, probably from a discord, spamming these threads today to get people thinking the majority opinion on Cinemaphile is that BCS sucked, even though there's been countless threads everyday nonstop critically analyzing the show to basically say "its good but flawed".
Which makes me wonder if those few people are coming from a "fandom" or something the opposite of BCS or something, what motive do they even have?
Oof, you just don't get it sweaty. Kim leaving him was enough to transform his entire persona, including his fashion sense and the way he speaks. The cut to Saul in bed with a sex professional was a daring subversion of audience expectations.
I thought he was just a sleazy salesman in breaking bad. A pushover. He much time does he need to do that
Why would Jimmy sexually harass Francesca?
Because the part of him that respects women was all Jimmy
You have to remember. Better Call Saul is actually a study in how Jimmy becomes an incel.
>Plebs status:
>filtered
This entire thread is locked except for
who is dangerously keyed
The writing has gotten worse, many plotholes this season and it's not even over yet.
what plotholes?
>Nacho betrays the cartel in one of the worst ways possible and insults them all to their faces. His father who is already known to the cartel never faces any reprisals.
>Lalo is shown as smart and capable throughout but never has a contingency plan in case he fails, the only person he tells that he's still alive is a cripple. He doesn't tell the feared Salamanca twins. His testimony would carry a lot of weight with Eladio but he doesn't even bother to send the videotape he has so far or a copy of it. He doesn't record the germans he interrogated.
>Gus has no reason to trust Kim, who clearly has a conscience as shown by her doing pro-bono legal work, but he lets her live and does nothing to ensure she doesn't decide to go to the cops while Mike and his guys are cleaning Howard's corpse. Gus is shown to be ultra careful and ruthless and he already learned his lesson with Ziegler so it makes no sense for him to take a bigger risk now
there are others but I cba to write anymore since I'll probably be met with moronation anyway.
Only thing I really agree with is that Nacho's father lived. No way hector wouldn't kill Nacho's entire family after what happened.
>His father who is already known to the cartel never faces any reprisals.
They have no reason to go after him after Nacho's death.
>Gus has no reason to trust Kim, who clearly has a conscience as shown by her doing pro-bono legal work, but he lets her live and does nothing to ensure she doesn't decide to go to the cops while Mike and his guys are cleaning Howard's corpse
But she'll keep her mouth shut, she did around Jimmy when it came to being told Lalo was alive. Not to mention that Mike has a soft spot for protecting people who aren't "in the game". The other thing is that she has no idea who Gus is, he'd have no reason to go after her
>people complain that the show's too slow
>now they're complaining that they didn't get another season explaining how Saul lost his hair
?
He lost his hair by becoming a work-a-holic who sleeps 4 hours a day and nukes his testosterone levels with viagra and anti-depressents.
This show has confirmed to me that prequels are a terrible idea since the writers can never resist adding in too many characters from the sequel, and thus railroading themselves and ending up with some really contrived scenarios just to maintain parity with their previous show.
Prequels are a bad idea because the ending of them are inevitably shit. Realistically, the show should’ve ended with chucks death, maybe a season after
He never became Saul you moron, he was always Saul. "Saul Goodman" is just another one of Slippin Jimmy's swindles
We still have 4 more episodes you fricking autists. BB final season was pretty shit until Ozymandias as well.
That was the peak
The last two episodes of Breaking Bad ruin the show
everyone is expecting the remaining episodes to occur during the Breaking Bad era, or the Gene era
the prequel part is finished
>BB final season was pretty shit until Ozymandias
Frick you the train episode is kino.
Who is the girl in the middle?
He's been Saul since like S2
>Entire show is about Jimmy's descent into criminality and the personal traumas that continue to exacerbate his bad behavior and justify his diminishing moral compass, leading him to an outright life of crime while masquerading as an alterego he uses to shield himself from said traumas.
THE BRAINLETS CAN SOCKKKKKK ME
Autistic people have trouble understanding human drama, don't be too harsh on OP for not understanding a perfectly built-up pay off.
You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid
For the big episode where Kim leaves, maybe it was slightly underwhelming, but it still felt realistic and was infinitely more forgivable than 604 and 606.