>A bunch of monkeys would never be able to type Shakespeare. It wouldn't happen.
>A bunch of monkeys would never be able to type Shakespeare.
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>t. brainlet who doesnt understand the implications of an infinite universe
its so statistically unlikely that even in an infinite universe it would never occur 0.9999 = 1 and 1 = no
You don't know what infinity means, huh?
Infinity really is an ungraspable concept for some people
and statistics are incomprehensible for midwits, its why they force you people to take classes in it to get a stem degree
But not Shakespeare
covergence, divergence, and mathematics in general are incomprehensible to some people, huh?
Some people seem to think it's magic, like the task in question doesn't even need to be possible first for infinity to just "sort it out"
It'd be like saying somewhere in the decimals of pi, the complete works of Shakespeare exist. How? "Infinite time, everything happens eventually, don't have to explain"
>somewhere in the decimals of pi, the complete works of Shakespeare exist.
Using some kind of number to letter representation, yes.
So, it follows, somewhere in there it contains your exact life story in the form of a MLP sexual fan fiction as interpreted by Kenny Rogers with a lisp. Fascinating.
yes
>0.9999 = 1
you might as well say 1 = 2 at this point.
something with 0.9999 odds of not occurring means it happens 0.0001 times. 10000 iterations would result in 1 likely occurrence. any non-zero probability has some likelihood of occurrence over enough iterations. that means, given infinite iterations, every unlikely occurrence will occur.
what's really gonna cook your noodle is that over infinite iterations, all occurrences occur infinitely, regardless of improbability
>. 10000 iterations would result in 1 likely occurrence.
Please go back to primary . Then again, of you're american, don't bother.
>Retard thinks that universe is infinite
The analogy should involve robots, not monkeys. Monkeys would mash the keys in specific ways that would never end up as an English sentence no matter how infinite a time period.
Take your fists and pound on your keyboard with your left and right and see what letters come out on the screen. If you did that a billion times, it would never make words. You'd only make every possible combination of letters that pattern of mashing could make, which is few.
Correct. Infinity only sorts it out for ya with a randomized input. Monkeys won't cut it.
>would never make words
Of course it would, occasionally.
I disagree. you underestimate infinity. even considering behavioral patterns, there's still enough unpredictability to introduce variation. over an infinite timescale, it would happen
also, the monkeys would just evolve over a few million years, create social spiritualism around the nature of being trapped in a room full of typewriters, and eventually derive a culture around writing great works as God seems to insist they do. with a conscious motivation to write literature, they're more likely to produce shakespeare
> you underestimate infinity. even considering behavioral patterns, there's still enough unpredictability to introduce variation.
No there isn't. Something impossible doesn't automatically become possible just because there's infinite time. There's still a parameter of what can happen.
True, but it has to be actually impossible, not just incredibly unlikely.
>t. midwit who repeats reddit thought experiments that are entirely divorced from mathematical law
Infinite does not mean anything can happen. It means that anything that can happen most likely will. 2 plus 2 won’t ever equal five, matter won’t travel faster than light, and you will never be a woman.
>matter won’t travel faster than light
Unless somewhere vastly distant a different big bang happened and the laws of physics there are completely different.
That wouldn’t be this universe. And, in that universe, matter would never be able to travel SLOWER than the speed of light despite infinity.
He isn't wrong. Without infinite space (which we don't have) and infinite monkeys (which we don't have) it wouldn't happen before the universe ends.
OH SHUT THE FUCK UP
IT'S A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT ABOUT THE NATURE OF INFINITY YOU IDIOT
OF COURSE THERE AREN'T INFINITE MONKEYS IN REALITY
PLAY A RECORD
Go stage another Oscars outrage, Rick. Shabbos goy puppet.
>stage another Oscars outrage
Genuinely don't know what you're talking about. He hosted the Golden Globes, not the Oscars.
>it would be very unlikely to happen
Fixed
>infinite space (which we don't have)
SOURCE right now.
If space was infinite, the nightsky would be completely white from an infinite number of stars.
Hahaha lmao lol, British people are so fucking funny. You know, 'cause they're, like, British and everything.
Holy seethe. You will never be us, or white for that matter.
It doesn't matter if they would you programming brainlets. The point and the hardest part is that no computer would be able to find it if the monkeys did. It would take longer than the age of the universe to sort through all that garbage.
>Karl has an existential moment observing the lives of insects
>THEY DON'T HAVE A CONSCIOUS YOU IDIOT THEY DON'T THINK
Ricky is such a profound midwit.
In the latter seasons it felt like rick was primed to mock anything Karl said regardless.
he definitely hammed up the 'i'm an intellectual' schtick once the podcast started. he's not really like that during the xfm run. i'd like to think it was a conscious thing rather than his ego getting the best of him. i think when he made it big in america, finding out most of the country still believed in stuff that most brits regard as nonsense turn him into the science and rational funny man
Yeah. Ricky's goal was always to make Karl more intelligent and he succeeded but the whole appeal of the show was shitting on Karl so he just kept doing it.
>give orange me give eat orange me eat
Have they read Shakespeare?
infinity =/= probability
It's really sad how many people can't understand what "infinity" means or what a thought experiment is.
Its a faulty thought because of
True infinity means it it's at all possible then it happens.
I always imagine the alternate universe where by pure statistical fluke every coin toss ever has come up heads. Does that totally fuck their idea of probability?
I know what infinity is. It's the amount of cocks you suck, dumbass. Go be pretentious somewhere else.
That's a lot of cocks.
A function that is always 2 given any point in the real numbers will, by definition, never NOT be 2. Infinity does not inherently mean "le anything can happen."
Random malfunction will happen at some point. Drawing the flat line on a graph? Pencil slips. Computerised? Power fluctuation.
Karl is right that monkeys wouldn't be able to do it.
Ricky is right that a computer typing random letters would.
it is pretty funny how karl is smarter than ricky and /misc/
>NOOO KARL OF COURSE THEY AREN'T PUTTING LOADS OF TRASH ON MT. EVEREST HOW WOULD THEY EVEN PUT IT THERE YOU IDIOT
>PLAY A RECORD
>someone's been tipping up Everest
>mount av a rest
PLAY A RECORD PLAY A FUCKING RECORD
IN WHAT WAY IS TELLING ME THAT BRIAN BLESSED SHIT HIMSELF ONCE IN ANY WAY EDUCATIONAL?
Currently quietly seething at the episode where Karl questions whether we might not lose a part of ourselves if we start relying on the internet to answer every single question and Ricky going "BUT YOUR BRAIN IS STILL THERE DUM-DUM SO NOTHING CHANGES"
Where would you even get that many typewriters though?
>Karl is in the middle of explaining himself or describes something mundane in a roundabout way that is still easily discernable if you think about it for more than a quarter second
>"KARL YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING MONGOLOID BUFFOON, YOU ARE SO FUCKING STEWPID YOU BALDY HEADED TWAT"
>This is the only joke
Ricky seems like the kind of person who you'd need superhuman self-restraint to not sock in the face during a discussion
>all these retards thinking that infinity means guaranteed probability
Is there a bigger pseud filter? I bet you retards play the lotto.
The idea is that the monkey parable implies full randomness with what keys are pressed and when. The problem with that model is that monkeys wouldnt necessarily have a chance to press all buttons in a keyboard in that way, especially when some keys are bigger or closer to the monkey than others. If it was truly random, there is indeed an infinitesimal chance of the complete works of shakespeare being recreated by sheer luck and a chance combination of letters. Its very unlikely but its wrong to say its impossible. If I can scramble letters together and somehow come up with even a single word, like "cake" then I can push it to the extreme and say its possible for shakespeare to be recreated in this same way.
He questioned the fictional one-ball story about Hitler before other people caught on to it
He questioned trannies and fags before it was cool
He questioned weird people
He is a genius
It would be possible to type by chance but infinite time does not guarantee it will happen
You can't even guarantee a single monkey would ever press the Z key even through its extremely likely
>Its very unlikely but its wrong to say its impossible
You aren't wrong, but Ricky and the other retards in the thread are equating possibility with a guarantee because "muh infinity". Yes, it is possible. No, it probably won't fucking happen. This is true for any thing reliant on probability. I mean fuck, there's a 1 in 44 chance for each letter, space and punctuation to be correct assuming they are on typewriters. For a single word, averaging at 5 letters per word, that's a 1 in 222 chance. You're fucking 8 times more likely to win at roulette. A single poem? Well, that's a 1 in ~2500 chance. The entire bibliography? I'm not even doing the basic math for that shit because I can't be fucked but it's genuinely in the probable neighborhood of one of the monkeys turning into a teacup.
And that assumes that once a monkey presses a key, they are equally likely to press any key as the next key, when they are more likely to just punch a bunch of keys at once than go one at a time.
Is he the definition of a troubled genius?
he's the definition of an inquisitive mind without any education
I have a uncle like Ricky Gervais. I respect him a great deal but he cannot, ever, be wrong about anything.
He simply refuses to concede he doesn't know something.
I'll tell him about some experiment I read about in a book which ended up affecting US law and he just says "that doesn't sound right, the test subjects would be lying" and I say "they had electrodes on their scalps, their brain activity was being monitored" and then he says "even so, that doesn't mean things would be the same outside the experiment".
All I am doing is trying to make a point and because he doesn't know about something he just feels inclined to play the expert anyway.
Before you call him "based" for science denial, he was very big on the covid vaccine and continually tried to pressure me to get it, he also is the only person in my entire family that still wears a mask if he feels a bit sick or has "close contact".
I used to think he was so smart growing up but I'm realising more and more he's just an arrogant sheep. Seeing his stubbornness grow is a bit sad because I do respect a lot of what he does, just not a lot that he says.
I noticed that a lot of boomers are allergic to saying "I don't know", and will rather give you bad advice than acknowledge they aren't sure about a situation.
These are the sorts of peopld who cannot entertain competing theories, or attempt to understand why someone with an opposing belief thinks the way they do.
>That army has some well nice trenches
>D-W
Their radio show was better. The only thing they had on this was Karl's diary, but everything else Karl did Rockbusters, Monkey News, Educating Ricky was pure gold. Hope Karl is doing alright.
its a shame 15 taiwan never caught on
The rice is right.
Karl's Diary was quite funny but felt so forced. Like I have no doubt that he actually wrote it but you can just tell that Ricky told him to do it rather than it being organic.
There's zero chance of some thirtysomething working class Mancunian suddenly deciding to start writing a diary on a whim.
>well noone likes to pick on an invalid