A few episodes before finishing season 1.
Holy Shit this is off the charts. How have they not fumbled the ball yet on these storylines? Does it hold up over the next two seasons?
A few episodes before finishing season 1. Holy Shit this is off the charts. How have they not fumbled the ball yet on these storylines?
pretty much yes, maybe S3 gets a bit dense
i hate how every Amerimud now knows our low key cute actresses
so that's how she passed the producer's "couch test"...wowza
Great show
I saw the first two but it didn’t grab me. Maybe I wasn’t in the right mood or something
It's a White people show, you wouldn't get it.
enjoy season 3 where it all gets shit
How come it's exclusively Americans who are too stupid to understand Dark?
>y-you just don't get it
Classic Dark pseud
Have you considered that you might just actually be too stupid to follow a simple narrative that doesn't explain trivial shit more than once?
Have you considered that you might just actually be too stupid to realize that the narrative has absolutely nothing to say and you are huffing on your own farts because some germans are quoting Nietzsche in a teen drama show made for fricking Netflix?
The only possible defense I've seen people have about this show is their insane notion that it is a difficult show to follow, it isn't.
>the narrative has absolutely nothing to say
Ah, yes, because YOU don't get it, that means no one can. Imagine that!
>deflecting yet again
Sad tbqh
>deflecting
Yes. Apparently you try your hardest to deflect from your lack of basic intellectual skills like "paying attention" and "drawing logical conclusions".
You are so smart, you understood the chicken and the egg paradox in an endogamic teen drama show for Netflix! I tip my hat to your critical thinking and analysis skills sir, may I invite you to the r/dark subreddit where you might find other akin minds? Sic Mundus Creatus Est 😉
>You are so smart, you understood the chicken and the egg paradox in an endogamic teen drama show for Netflix!
I'm not saying that I'm smart for understanding it. Quite the opposite: You don't need to be smart to understand Dark.
I'm saying that you are incredibly stupid for not understanding it. For some reason idiots always confuse others calling them idiots with others calling themselves smart.
I think this is a fairly baseline assumption, but if there aren't flashy neon signs or politicians telling them to do it then they wont.
Quoting Nietzsche is this generations "green day"
This is so tiresome.
Instant wachting of all episodes and then breaks of 9 months or so are the issues. That was diffrent with Lost with one week between each episode.
No one is forcing you to watch all episodes at once. But, frankly, I don't think doing that will make it any more difficult than watching it weekly. The pauses, yes, can be counterproductive, but that's what rewatches are for.
Every Episode had some reveal/cliffhanger so the urge the need to know more will make you watch the next. Whereas in weekly schedules you put more effort into rethinking and discussing about the meaning or what happend during the episode, trying to seach for missed hints and thus remember way more about it. Rewatching the whole season is just too much.
Rent free
>t. American
It’s amazing how Germanstanis will always defend their one somewhat good show that blundered spectacularly in the final season.
>their one somewhat good show
watch commisar rex
The highbrow cultural underpinning far exceeds their McBrains
Season three is divisive but it's one of the very few shows that never went to shit, imo
Plus so many frickable German women of all ages
Adult Hannah will always be best girl. What a sex fiend
i'm not usually into milfs but she is ridiculously hot
Not even with a rented dick.
based
No Season 1 is the kino. 2 becomes soap opera nonsense and the less said about 3 the better
This man is gay. Don't listen to him.
No, it doesn't hold up but the first season is so strong that that still ends up above-average.
meh
i liked parts of it and it's great as far as a netflix show goes but it is cartoony in parts, the characters aren't memorable, and it has no real lessons to impart
Watch it through to the end. The story isn't as riveting in S3 and in S1 but it is a worthwhile ride.
you're in for pure kino
you're in for pure Ich bin du
I honestly don't know what it's trying to say. I get the various plot points and themes but the opening of show is basically unseen adultery and deceit and the ending is Jonas and Marta as people truly in love as great uniter. Maybe the writers are just trying not to depress us but really there's no reason to be optimistic based on the events of the show. And that's not even including the copout ending which suggests chaos agents like Hannah will always frick things up and brushing the troony shit under the table.
It's a sci fi show about time travel moron, it wasn't trying to say anything deep
>I honestly don't know what it's trying to say.
They literally spell out that God is Time.
And the ending implies that man's tribulations are just an endless cycle of toiling, for God to get what he wants.
Only an Evangelical American who doesn't know how metaphors work would ever come to a conclusion as moronic as this. Congrats.
It's not a metaphor moron, it's literally what happens.
>OG Universe Tannhaus wants his family back.
>Creates universe A&B with a machine
>He is literally the creator of those two universes.
>People in said universes suffer in an endless cycle of time travel frickery until they understand how to fix things and give Tannhaus (god) what he wants (save his family)
>After the task is completed, they stop existing.
>It's not a metaphor
>Tannhaus (god)
Kek. Sure, no metaphor. Tannhaus is a literal deity, right?
>Tannhaus is a literal deity, right?
Dieties aren't a real thing, so the definition is arbitrary.
Considering that a diety doesn't have to be omnipotent? Yes, he is the creator of A&B universes and he created them with the sole purpose to get his family back, which works as intended.
>Dieties aren't a real thing, so the definition is arbitrary.
So how did you not just use a metaphor yourself in your explanation of how there are no metaphors in Dark?
>he created them with the sole purpose to get his family back
Which is a stark contrast to your initial claim that "God is Time". Unless you also claim that Tannhaus is time as well. And I assume you still mean that literally, not as a metaphor?
>So how did you not just use a metaphor yourself in your explanation of how there are no metaphors in Dark?
I didn't say there are no metaphors in Dark.
What Adam says (God is Time) is a metaphor.
I said that my following recollection of events (Tannhaus story) was literally what happens in the show.
Tannhaus is the creator of those (A&B) timelines, and is effectively their God (intended as a creator).
Everyone in the timeline suffers and is trapped in an endless cycle until they can go back and fulfill their creator's wishes, erasing themselves in the process.
This literally happens, not metaphorically.
>my following recollection of events (Tannhaus story) was literally what happens in the show
Which would have been fine had you not conflated Tannhaus with the notion of a literal (not metaphorical) creator god, and present it as if the "God is time" metaphor implied anything like that.
But where's the problem with that? Adam says he wants to kill God (Time) by essentially erasing existence, which is what he ends up doing, just in a different way than what he had planned.
Because despite him having incomplete information, he correctly identified being stuck in a loop of suffering the only way out of which, was self destruction.
>But where's the problem with that?
The problem is that you're conflating lots of things here. Individually, you're correct about all of them. But they don't imply one another. Adam's metaphor is about "killing god/time", yes. Tannhaus does (accidently) create the cycle and ends up getting what he wants, albeit indirectly. And, yes, you can call him a creator god, metaphorically. But Adam's metaphor doesn't imply the whole Tannhaus stuff in any way, nor does it directly relate to it.
>But Adam's metaphor doesn't imply the whole Tannhaus stuff in any way, nor does it directly relate to it.
It relates to it because it's fiction created with intent, so when you're writing that Adam's monologue, the Tannhaus story (though revealed later) already exists as an overarching structure.
If we were discussing a natural occurring phenomena i'd agree with you, but in a piece of fiction, every piece (ideally) feeds into the other.
>It relates to it because it's fiction created with intent
That's not a good argument, anon. Just because two ideas exist in the same fictional story, and both were created intentionally, that does not mean that both of them relate to one another. Take Red Riding Hood, for example, which illustrates the idea that one should be aware of dangers and not be too trusting of strangers (RRH's perspective), and also has the idea that giving in to your desires/hunger while ignoring your surroundings can prove lethal (the wolf's perspective). Both ideas exist in one story, and both are playing off one another even, but one does not necessitate or even just suggest the other. They are still two entirely separate ideas.
Sure, but i think the struggle Adam faces, in trying to make sense of his role as a (unaware and powerless) puppet, and Tannhauss giving him life, trapping him in that loop, are very related though.
I see where you're coming from, but I'd argue that while the events are related (more generally, everything is related to the Tannhaus incident), but the themes and ideas behind them are not.
I actually think it's cool that Tannhaus will literally never know what a horrific thing he did to save his family since he succeeded
I enjoyed the first season, second too. Reminded me in a better way of how Money Heist went, except better because they didn't sell out for endless seasons like money heist did, even if the stories and telling were vastly different.
Regardless, enjoyable. I have some long winded complaints regarding how the storytelling medium is now more tv rather than movie focused, and therefore subject to american LGBTQ wars but that isn't too relevant now.
Americans literally cannot comprehend what metaphorically means. Prove me wrong
>Money Heist
what a moronic name for a show. i'll never watch it
Original title is La Casa De Papel, but doesn't change the fact that it's an incredibly moronic show, in the later seasons it has some of the worst writing i've ever seen and in season 3 it takes a really forced woke turn, too.
It certainly isn't even in the same league as Dark.
To be fair it was originally in Spanish called le casa de la papel "House of Paper" but it got Netflix/americanised.
Original kino Ocean11 type things with great characters. But they only planned one season and when it got picked up it went for 2. They ran out of script before then. Then netflix and now we see s4/5 who fricking knows. show has been shit since s2 end. They rob central bank then they rob bigger bank? come on.. this was a smart show that suspend disbelief not some professor is playing 6d chess tv character.
I cant write it properly in english but all the characters become stupid, and the smart character is somehow more smart. Before in s1 and early s2 par example denver was brutish perhaps but still has his wits about him. s3 + he is basically an angry mongloid. great shame, i enjoyed his character.
Since everyone hate the new version i have to say this : not about the black or immigrant, Blackni was always a part of the team. and far better than most. Actually the problem IMO they have is that people respect the robbers because they think the bank peoples are the same
The whole series was done and over before Netflix even bought it, you fricking moron.
They decided to split in two so ameritards could get all hyped up on the cliffhanger because marvel capeshit has rotten their brains.
>this was a smart show that suspend disbelief
Season 1&2 were fun, but it was never a smart show.
Tokyo gets back in riding a fricking motorcycle.
Granted, given how garbage the later seasons are, the first 2 look like a masterpiece.
classic muttmerican who needs every piece of media to be an allegory on trump or Black folk
the clear message is that the world will be what it is and you have to make peace with it
everything happens because that one guy couldn't deal with his kid dying. the entire town suffers because he can't deal with reality
He gets his kid back tho.
So the message is, actually, be boneheaded and invent a time machine.
S3 was a mistake, but otherwise
Is it true the protag travels across space and time to frick his aunt?
yep
Don't let yourself get spoilered. You will be in for KINO.
No, finish season 1 and pretend netflix cancelled it. Season 2 may look good but by season 3 you realize it planted the seeds of the show demise
Just keep watching pal. The further in it goes the gayer and more implausible it gets. I started out thinking it was gonna be one of the greatest shows ever made in the last 10 years, and it ended up being maybe in the top 100
It drags on a bit and gets very convoluted in S3 but the whole show is kino through and through. The ending made me choke up like a b***h.
I liked all seasons. Watch it.
Dark is one of the very few new shows I like.
best girl
you take that back right now
>posting real best girl
So close yet so far
based ella bro
That's just her 33 years younger, anon.
Why is this b***h in a dungeon-bunker?
Dark is unironically only loved by morons who love shallow storytelling that pretends to be smart.
homosexual
Average Dark episode:
>Jonas finds out his dog is his son
>Scientist starts explaining how light is both a particle and a wave to introduce some new timeline
>Running through german forest
>Scrotum head Jonas proceeds to fist his former self
>"um das licht zu sehen muss man in der dunkelheit sen..."
>sad melodic score starts playing as it is revealed that the dog son of Jonas was implanted in the ass by his forward scrotum self as a 4d chess move against future Martha but he loved his dog-son so much he actually just kills himself
>dog-son plotline is never adressed again
holy kinoli!
homosexual
>Average Dark episode:
Not, that would be this:
>Character A: "I'm going to change the past."
>Character B: "No, you can't change the past."
>A: "No, I'm going to change the past."
>B: "You can't change the past, it's impossible."
>A: "Watch me."
>Character A does the exact same thing that made the past event possible
>B: "Told you so."
>Character C: "I'm going to change the past."
>A: "You can't change the past, it's impossible."
>C changes the past
>A: "Das kann nicht sein."
>C: "Du weißt immer noch nicht, wie dieses spiel gespielt wird."
>A: "Your mother is acutally your sister"
>B: "I know, because I am your actually your grandfather and your own son"
>A: "*Gasps*"
>"Your mother is acutally your sister"
That never happens at any point. No one gives birth to himself.
>I am your actually your grandfather and your own son
Neither does this, but some relationships come pretty close.
Charlotte Elisabeth is basically that, in that it makes no biological sense.
>Charlotte Elisabeth is basically that
If you switch genders, yes.
>it makes no biological sense.
Biologically speaking, there's no problem with it at all. Other than the inherently incestuous nature of the whole thing. The problem lies in the linear causality that you'd usually apply, but the whole time travel stuff takes care of that.
>Biologically speaking, there's no problem with it at all.
How does it make genetic sense for one to be both mother and daughter in a cycle? Wouldn't some level of linear causality remains in the idea of mixing genetic information to create another human? It other words, no matter how many time i tried, i could never create a daughter that had 100% the genetic composition of my mother?
>Wouldn't some level of linear causality remains in the idea of mixing genetic information to create another human?
Not necessarily. Especially since one half of the genetic information is bootstrapped, while the other only ever comes from Noah and Peter, and any mutations don't happen randomly, but are determined by the cycle.
>i could never create a daughter that had 100% the genetic composition of my mother?
If you tried with your grandfather and got lucky with mutations, why not?
If you want a real biological impossibility: Apparently the no-name trio impregnates Agnes in both worlds to create the same Tronte. However, since there's only one version of the trio and two versions of Agnes, it cannot possibly have been the exact same sperm cell in both cases (since the trio would need to use it up for one Agnes, then a different one for the other). Which indicates that something more than just absolute natural determinism is going on with the cycle.
No name trio is probably my least favorite thing about S3, and one of the few things in the show that does feel like an ass pull, even though it's not too bad.
They're there to tie up loose ends for Eva and make sure everything falls into place, but as far as i can remember, they were never even hinted at or foreshadowed in the prior two seasons, despite being so prevalent in the timeline.
It feels weird.
>they were never even hinted at or foreshadowed in the prior two seasons
Neither was Eva. But the theory that Jonas and Martha would have a child that becomes their ancestor and thus retroactively closes the cycle was quite popular before season 3. It already existed before season 2.
True but i feel like Eva wasn't jumping around as much.
The trio goes everywhere and it would've been cool to have them foreshadowed early on.
I don't really have a problem with them existing in the story because it makes sense, i'm more annoyed that they didn't interwoven them sooner, since (allegedly) they wrote the whole story before starting.
They wrote the story as a whole, yes, but they probably didn't plan out exactly where and when the trio would intervene exactly, just like they didn't plan out stuff like Wöller's eye.
And it makes sense that the trio didn't leave traces. It was their job to not leave traces and only interact with core characters when their role in the narrative was pretty much done (Tronte being the one exception).
I mean they made hints about Tronte’s father since season 1. And by season 3, he’s biggest missing piece of the family tree.
>No one gives birth to himself.
I forgot, but wasn't one adopted and only shown later in the show? Too long ago anyway. I guess it was the little brother of Jonas who got lost in the past and then became the father of Jonas.
>it was the little brother of Jonas
You really shouldn't talk about a series you haven't seen, anon.
average episode meme only works when its 2 lines of greentext
when you are writing out a leftist meme it sort of defeats the purpose
If it's not a convoluted story without any real substance behind then it is not a real dark episode
>convoluted
>without any real substance
Ask me how I can tell that you're American.
No need, I know you require confirmation bias to not fall apart, which is why you have been replying the same inane shit for 4 hours non-stop.
Kek smashed the pinko c**t
>t. Americans
You don't happen to have a youtube channel named "GETJaby", do you?
People who think this show is good past season one are morons.
>>"um das licht zu sehen muss man in der dunkelheit sen..."
do NOT get spoilered
seriously just leave the thread and keep binge watching
get yourself comfy, clear headed and enjoy
This is the most kino out of Netflix original TV shows. Perfect.
Ignore any Americ**t that can't understand European TV storytelling.
S1 is great.
S2 is really good.
S3 drops the ball a lot, I found it extremely convoluted and silly at times
>I found it extremely convoluted and silly at times
Yes, that's what American education does to your brian.
Case in point.
Don't quote me homosexual, I didn't say it was too convoluted and I'm not american
You most definitely did not understand season 3.
This is you:
that's a cute little story you've made up about me in your mind, i bet it made you giggle
>Brian
>That's what American Education does to you brain
But I'm European.
>I found it extremely convoluted and silly at times
Pretty much everything is explained in detail, with constant montages to help you place everything in line, how is it convoluted?
Now Primer is a convoluted time travel movie.
Kino s1 a few good episodes in s2 especially the dad in the past ones and an awful s3
More or less, but the last season is the worst
Wise choice of them to end it there
S1 > S3 >> S2.
I don’t remember anything that happened in S2 except the ending.
The fact that the child killing/tv brainwashing was not properly explained is worse than any such bullshit in LOST.
>hurr you just didn’t understand it
no, you
>is worse than any such bullshit in LOST
>One thing left slightly vague in a show full of elements that actually come together, is worse than a show full of completely random shit that was clearly thought out on the moment and never brought up again.
You're a disingenuous b***h.
>the child killing/tv brainwashing
The children were killed because that's how it always happened. And literally the only "tv brainwashing" in Dark is the Raider commercial. Pretty sure you weren't talking about that.
Man this show was awesome. The characters and everything was just perfect
Also
https://dark.netflix.io/en
I stopped watching when Love Interest b***h returns from another dimension or whatever
Just keep it simple ffs. It needed literally half the amount of characters to even be comprehensible
>Just keep it simple ffs. It needed literally half the amount of characters to even be comprehensible
>t. American
No but the amerisharts are absolutely correct in this case
Sure they are. How come anyone with more than two braincells doesn't have any problem whatsoever to comprehend Dark? How come it's only you guys who have trouble following what's going on?
something dumb happens in the last few minutes of season 2 and then season 3 is mostly trash after that.
Director and writer are husband and wife, they pretty muched planed it all out before starting to shoot it. You may or may not what the ending is, but at the very least it's no out of nowhere twist shit.
That's not the problem, the problem is all the meaningless convoluted sub-plots before the ending.
>meaningless convoluted sub-plots
You can only possibly think that they were meaningless if you didn't pay any attention.
i watched the first 2 seasons and thought they were good, but the reveal of alternate timeline shenanigans at the end of S2 made me not want to continue to S3. is it worth watching or just drop it?
Yes, it's not just an ass pull, it all comes together pretty well.
th-thanks guys
The other guy must be a kraut shill.
If you thought s2 was harebrained s3 is gonna give you an anueurysm
Dude you're legit moronic if you can't follow a TV show that ends every episode with a montage and splitscreens to recap everything that's happening.
At worse you can take a couple of notes which is fun in and of itself.
Anon, the whole thing with the 3 different timelines because OF COURSE ITS ALWAYS 3 IT HAD TO BE 3 is maximum moronic and the writers should have at least have any idea whatsoever in explaining it, but they didnt.
And sooner or later you will have to stop pretending like it wasnt moronic and no amount of coping about how anybody who thought s3 was a letdown just didnt get it is going to change that.
>the 3 different timelines
There weren't "3 different timelines", moron. There were no "timelines" at all. Shows how much attention you paid.
Oh whatever the frick you want to call them.
Go on play semantic games because you cant face up to the facts what do I care.
>Oh whatever the frick you want to call them.
No, not whatever. You probably didn't even understand that two of those worlds that you call "timelines" are completely interwoven with one another to the point where their existences depend on one another. They are in no way separate "timelines" at all. But, hey, leave it to the moronic American shitposter not to care about such "semantic games" as cohesive storytelling.
You're using a bunch of buzzwords, but have no arguments.
Why is the three "timeline" thing moronic? Just because you don't like the number? Because the show can't construct a (perfectly working) story on the basis of aesthetic elements?
It's fiction, it didn't have to be three, it could've been 2, 4 or none at all, because it's fricking made up.
The only question is whether it works or not and it does, if you think it doesn't you have to explain why, or you can keep shitposting buzzwords.
It was foreshadowed early in Season 2. They have always stated that the story was completely thought of prior to the show and I believe it. It never feels like anything is really pulled out of their ass.
Don't listen to moronic Americans unless you yourself are one and know that you lack basic brain fuctionality.
No it keeps shitting the bed harder and harder until s3 is just a pure chore to get through.
The alternate timeline makes perfect sense by the end, but I warn you, you gotta have above 80 IQ to understand S3
Season 2 and 3 are overall good, but Season 1 is one of the greatest tv show seasons ever.
Cinemaphile threads on every tv show ever
>first seasons good
>later seasons... LE BAD
I hate this so much. It's usually contrarianism too.
>show was unknown at the start so I liked it
>show got popular so I hate it and pretend it got worse
Wonder how many unique ips are in this thread.
how is that relevant?
incredible show, if netflix has a reason to exist this would be it, this and altered carbon were my favourite series on the platform and i haven't subscribed since, i won't sub to homosexual shit
s1>s2>>s3
i really didnt like season 3
didnt even bother to finish season 3
season 1 was so much better. way higher production budget and even had atmos sound. s02 budget got slash and it shows. all the animals dying, earthquake and lights going out was just stopped in s02 without any explanation.
>all the animals dying, earthquake and lights going out was just stopped in s02
There are literally birds falling from the sky shortly the apocalypse happens, anon, as Jonas and young Noah travel. Of course, there's no need to go into detail on that anymore since the first season already gave a sufficient explanation for it.
Not even gonna watch it or read about it but just from ops poster I can tell this is dogshit and you all suck for liking it
Your loss, anon.
But I wonder why you feel the need to blogpost about it.
why is it called dark though? I never got that
>why is it called dark though?
They wanted to call it "Dark Matter", but Netflix apparently already had something with that title in their catalogue.
>They wanted to call it "Dark Matter", but Netflix apparently already had something with that title in their catalogue.
Both titles are pretty generic sounding for such a good show, tbh.
Time Crimes, Primer, even Back to the Future is more catchy and interesting.
Especially since "Dark Matter" is, like Quantum Physics, that wild card that gets used to explain random shit, it's kind of a joke.
I'm watching this german lady draw family trees. It's already messy by the end of season 1.
It's gonna be interesting to see how they will look at the end of the series.
She is a great example for how easy it is to follow the plotline and understand everything as long as you're not a complete moron.
If you need a counterexample, watch this:
This is what happens when you give Dark to an average American capeshit fan who cannot pay attention to anything.
yeah, I've tried watching them and couldn't stand it.
>"The girl he [Mikkel] was smashing was... Hannah's... big sister... i'm really lost now"
How the frick do you get so confused by the most basic time travel idea.
When did he even get the idea that Hannah has a sister?
I get not remembering every single name at first, but that part is probably the most straightforward one.
I hate murican youtubers so fricking much.
Not only that, but also a Black person ameritard youtuber.
Who in their right fricking mind would watch more than a second of these two literal idiots?
>Who in their right fricking mind would watch more than a second of these two literal idiots?
To be fair, if you manage to suppress your disgust over them being braindead morons, it's actually quite funny to watch them bumble around like drunks and not getting anything that's going on.
Don't watch s3, just make up your own ending
I just finished watching it. Kino from start to finish, but you’ll need a brain to keep up with season 3. Introduces not only multiple time periods but parallel worlds too. The finale is fantastic.
Posting in an ebig yellow jacket thread
Ich bin du
It's great frick the brainlets that couldn't enjoy it.
garbage show. same fans as arcane and severance
>same fans as arcane and severance
Nope. Try again, Marvel fanboy.
thanks for proving me right
See, I can spot Marvel fanboys from the bullshit they are spouting. To be fair, sometimes I get it wrong and they're DC fanboys instead.
Damn you just convinced me to check out severance
Better than Stranger Things...
It never does justice for poor Mads though.
Claudia is the most based heroine though.
s1 - kino
s2 - kino of the highest order
s3 - absolute kino beyond mortal comprehension
Honestly, I can't take people seriously who are too moronic to understand the beauty of a complex plot fully thought out and completed over 3 seasons. Also, the atmosphere, casting and Soundtrack is peak kino
Ok troony enjoy netflix
>Ok troony enjoy netflix
Aren't you admitting with this that you're dumber than a troony?
I love that this show isn’t afraid to show the teen girls naked
We need more “I’m banging my aunt” kino shows
Why are German movies either absolute gigakino like dark, das Boot or Metropolis, or absolute shit?
Because Germans are perfectionist, but only if they give a shit in the first place. It's all or nothing. When they aren't fully committed, they don't put in any effort at all.
s3 martha > s1&s2 martha
Great great grandmother vs great great granddaughter
sorry, what I meant was Martha with bangs from s3 > Martha from earlier seasons.
I wasn't including her older versions.
One is still the ancestor of the other.
>Great great grandmother vs great great granddaughter
You know ... Martha isn't all that great.
I don't know what Jonas saw in her when he could have had Franziska, Elisabeth, Claudia (any age), Hannah (hey, it's incest away), Regina or even Silja.
Jonas should have banged Claudia in the 2020-2030s, after the apocalypse.
You can’t tell me he didn’t get blue balls for decades having to hear Noah bang Elisabeth.
>Jonas should have banged Claudia in the 2020-2030s
To be fair, he actually might have. Just because episode 7 didn't show it, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
sure Martha is nice but my darkfu is better
Trips of truth.
Also post her ass.
>post her ass.
Here you go.
Yes, this is the correct answer
The one thing about this show that sucks is that Magnus and Franciska ended up not important to anything.
>not important
They were fricking all the time. What could be more important than that?
And ironically ended up the only ones never to have a child or have a weird connection in the overall family tree.
>never to have a child
Would you have a child if you were in Dark and knew about how all things would go to shit eventually?
Yeah they get kind of written off once they end up in the past.
They had a massive cast though, so i get why they did it.
I wished the sequence of them finding eachother in the 4th dimension had been more intense, longer and trippier.
For me, it's Regina.
She has the best love story in the show tbh.
If only Alexander told her his origins. They did have the best marriage though.
Question, did Regina know who her biological father really was?
Or do you think Claudia never told her.
>Question, did Regina know who her biological father really was?
In the origin world, yes. You can see all three of them together on family photos and Claudia and Bernd most probably married. (I doubt Bernd is still alive when it ends in 2019 though.)
I don't remember, does Helge exist in the Origin world? He would've been cucked pretty bad by his dad if so.
>does Helge exist in the Origin world?
Yes. Peter exists, so Helge (and Ulla Schmidt) has to as well.
Oh right, so indeed he saw the little girl he wanted to bone, get impregnated by his own father, the dude can't catch a break in any universe.
Also his son ended up gay
I thought she knew his origins. She found him when he was on the run. We don't know anything from before that.
>I thought she knew his origins.
He tells Bartosz (in Eva's world) that Regina didn't know. We don't know whether he ever told her in Adam's world, but it's reasonable to assume that he did not.
>Cinemaphile hates DARK now
Do you ever get tired of being contrarian?
ARE YOU READY FOR MORE KINO?
>blacks
No ty.
They're literally going to America. What do you expect?
Ty for teaching me about this kino
tfw this show is just on the cusp of great shows everyone recommends like leftovers mad men sporanos etc it being netflix actually hurts it in that aspect
Why do people keep bringing up Netflix so much. This show literally only had one thing to do with Netflix: being released on it, and getting money from them. There was literally zero creative input from Netflix execs (this is btw why the show is so non-woke and presents a classic conflict of the TWO genders)
Wasn't it produced by Netflix? Or is it like Better Call Saul, that's distributed by Netflix outside the US, but has nothing to do with it.
If they did produce it, they most certainly must have had some input.
You don't just give your money out with no strings attached.
>Wasn't it produced by Netflix? Or is it like Better Call Saul, that's distributed by Netflix outside the US, but has nothing to do with it.
The entire production team was all in Germany. I literally know the office in my city where the series was cut/edited.
>If they did produce it, they most certainly must have had some input.
Like what? Maybe regarding marketing, most definitely not regarding plot because otherwise it would've been shit.
>You don't just give your money out with no strings attached.
Netflix does.
>Netflix does.
Let's see how this new 1899 fares, because i think their atomic-woke policies got real bad after Dark was already in production.
>Wasn't it produced by Netflix?
There are no Black folk in Dark, so obviously Netflix had nothing to do with it.
>There are no Black folk in Dark
Erm ...
>on the cusp
stopped reading there
>Does it hold up over the next two seasons?
I don't think so. I think they made it too convoluted. There's just too much stuff going on. S1 and S2 were great
I really liked this show, watched the first couple seasons in a couple weeks and was an episode or two into the third then I got held up with life shit and now I feel like I'll have to start from the very beginning again because I remember some but not enough so I'm just waiting until I forget it all then I'll give it another go.
on a side note, I know people are moronic but I genuinely can't believe that people watch these shows with dubs. it honestly didnt even occur to me til a coworker said he watched with dubs since all foreign shit on netflix has auto played with the original language and eng subs.
It's funny how the show was sold to me as Stranger Things in German but much DARKer. I mean it is accurate for the first couple episodes I suppose.
>Does it hold up over the next two seasons?
its decent overall, but season 1 is the best season by far
season 2 is mostly very good but the very end gets a bit whacky
Season 2 episode 6 is the series best episode
>Picrel is the little C Plot that could
>mogged everyone
>cucked everyone else
Based character
So we all agree that the loop only happened once?
There are no loops. Time is linear and exists in a dimension that we are incapable of fully comprehending. The characters see it as a loop because they "time travel" and see past/future versions of themselves, but time itself never loops.
>The characters see it as a loop
How the characters see it is how it is, anon.
"Time" is not some big physical object. Time is just the mode of how a thinking subject perceives processuality and change in nature. If subjects perceive changes as circular, then for them, time is itself circular.
>"Time" is not some big physical object
In Dark, time is explicitly a physical entity that can be interacted with beyond merely our perception of it.
>In Dark, time is explicitly a physical entity that can be interacted with
Are you refering to the "blue flowing room" in the last episode? That is a surreal depiction of whatever it means to traverse words in a compressed moment. It's not "time".
If you think time travel itself means interacting with a physical object, I'd argue that the 33-year-cycle (everything being in the exact same position 33 years later, as described by Charlotte in season 1) is more of an indication for time NOT being a seperate objective entity, but merely the change in state of all objects collectively. Time travel then would be nothing but restoring the state of the "universe" to a specific configuartion. Kinda like loading a savestate in a gameboy emulator.
Season 3 shit the bed. Especially the finale.
At about the 45-50 minute mark almost episode they play some overly sappy song with a montage of key characters looking sad and or determined.
It's schizobabble your warped brain is interpreting as art
If I could change anything about Season 3, that wouldn't require something impossible like 'not wait 2-3 years between seasons', it would be that when the time loop starts collapsing in the finale - to show little epilogues for the characters as they're disappearing.
Marta and Jonas get too much screentime in that final montage.
and Jonas get too much screentime in that final montage.
They show Jonas disappearing 3 fricking times.
>3 fricking times
But that's the point, anon.
Fair enough, but i would've liked to see others too.
Because then they also show Claudia and i think somebody else as well, felt a bit arbitrary.
>they also show Claudia
Adam-Jonas is in three worlds, so he's shown disappearing in all three.
Eva-Martha is only in two, so she only disappears twice.
There's only one world where Claudia made it to the end, so she disappears once.
>Eva-Martha is only in two, so she only disappears twice
Martha disappears 3 times. One as Eve, one as Martha after stopping the car crash, and one as middle age Martha/Eve in the cave.
>one as middle age Martha/Eve in the cave.
That's strange. I was almost certain middle aged Martha was ignored altogether. She should have been, she was kinda superfluous.
it got tiring pretty fast how whenever someone tried to change the past or an event in some way it turns out they were the ones responsible for said event all along
Am I too smoothbrained for this show? I was on board with the plot in the first two seasons, but by 3 everything got so confusing and convoluted I couldn't keep track anymore without being spoonfed through a video essay
I'm starting season 2 and I couldn't care less about anyone.
Every character is unlikable as frick and I can't root nor care for anyone.
>Every character is unlikable as frick
You're a soulless ghoul.
Actually a plot point, keep going.
kys
if you cant figure oot the baddies and the goodies by now you should right fak off fgt
oi m8 quit bein sucha cheeky bahstad innit
the only interesting aspect of this show is jonas, the rest are a bunch of filler tier characters that are boring to watch
it's great, definitely better than Stranger Things.
just be aware that it's a show that is playing with time travel tropes for metaphorical effect, rather than an attempt at hard sci-fi.
I hate hate hate closed time loops
Nothing has any consequence and makes the entire show meaningless. There can be no mysteries or surprises because you already know somebody just time travels to cause it, usually the protagonist himself as a "twist" it also means a ton of characters have plot armor because we see them later in life. I kept waiting for it to have any actual stakes and it never did.
I wish I could get my time back from watching the first two seasons.
Kek. You're just another American jumping to conclusions. You have completely missed the point. Congrats.
>it also means a ton of characters have plot armor
Half the cast literally disintegrates, including the main characters, you muppet.
He said he hasn't seen season 3. That's why he also believes there's a completely closed loop that doesn't allow for a change. That's what happens when you grow up in an education system that encourages you to jump to conclusions instead of seeing things through.
darkbros i just want that frickin flashlight he had
Well, I just want a Franziska gf. Life isn't fair.
worst thing about the ending was them not using the title music and instead using that shitass version of what a wonderful world ugh
Holy shit, this...to go from "will anything remain of us?" to that version of It's a Wonderful World, so fricking stupid. The series finale had been built up over three seasons, only to be culminated in a moment of bathos with an ironic zoomer parody of a timeless song. Even the original Louis Armstrong version would have been out of place.
>bathos
I don't think you really understood the song choice, or what was going on while it played.
It ends with a literal grandfather paradox after spending so much time/effort trying to avoid one
No, it literally does not. The rules you know from inside the loop do not apply in the origin world.
Why is this so hard to get for Americans?
its as perfect a show as you can get
nothing is perfect
lol
Here's another one of them:
he's pointing out the people obsessed with america you moronic foreigner
>foreigner
Kek. Proving the point, you moronic American.
It's easy to spot you morons in a Dark thread.
no shit i pretty much told you
>you moronic foreigner
This is a Japanese owned board, sport.
I'd unironically love to see a Japanese dub of Dark. I very much enjoyed the Japanese dub of Twin Peaks.
The Jap dub of BCS was kino.
S3 was not so great
Autistic germans write a flawlessly complex interlocking story but forget to make any of the drama compelling. Sad!
>forget to make any of the drama compelling.
Yeah, too bad that they can only appeal to the rest of the world, not to a continent that collectively thinks that compelling drama consists of capeshit-style fight scenes.
Why are Americans so fricking moronic?
Lack of education.
s1: 11/10
s2: 10/10
s3: 9/10
Finished S1 last night, does the emerald tablet get explained at all? It's kino so far, please tell me it doesn't go to shit.
>does the emerald tablet get explained at all
There's not much to explain if you know what it says.
It's just imagery. A lot of the stuff in Dark has little far reaching implications beyond that.
Yeah, as much as it might've seemed cliche I would've liked a middle age Jonas/Martha meetup to give her a bit more relevance.