>the league members got their powers stolen and now they're powerless but not yet defeated.
So this will be just another bat wank event, right?
Absolute power
>the league members got their powers stolen and now they're powerless but not yet defeated.
So this will be just another bat wank event, right?
Nope, is the pavement for the Reboot next year
>Reboot
DC got it right ONCE with COIE, and ever since they've been trying to make it happen again while failing to understand why it worked the first time.
They didn't even get it right then. They highjacked what was meant to be a simple anniversary crossover that was only meant to get rid of the multiple earths and turned it into a massive reboot event.
>They highjacked what was meant to be a simple anniversary crossover that was only meant to get rid of the multiple earths and turned it into a massive reboot event.
the absolute state
>while failing to understand why it worked the first time.
This implies COIE wasn't a terrible failure that required constant semi-reboots between it and New-52.
This. The discerning eye may notice that EVERY FRICKING REBOOT SINCE COIE has been about trying to resolve the glaring frickups resulting directly from COIE making everything more confusing than when they started.
The truth of the matter is that you can having a neverending shared universe running in place constantly rotating through writers for decades at a time, or you can have a setting that is cohesive and makes sense. You can't have both, for the same reason that you wouldn't expect artistic consistency from a bunch of children being asked to share the same coloring book. The one thing you can count on for sure is that every one of those kids is going to scribble outside the lines, and at least some of them are going to scribble over the bits someone else already colored in.
The problem with COIE is the same problem they had with Flashpoint, they weren't willing to commit to the full reboot.
Reboot scares them. They came ultra close to it in Death Metal or whatever the frick it was called, but aborted it at the last minute, in an act of supreme cowardice that robbed that mega-event of its payoff.
But they have to reboot at some point. Just to get rid of all the trash in continuity.
Death Metal was leading to their 5G universe, which would have been disastrous.
Unpopular opinion: I think the only thing truly wrong with 5G was that it skipped the sidekick generation in favor of total nobodies. If you're going to advance the timeline in DC, the natural thing to do is make all the various teen sidekicks grownups running the show, and put the OGs in quasi-retired mentor roles and go from there. But since Didio absolutely hates the 90's characters, he tried to skip over their turn and have the next wave be a bunch of literally-whos, resulting in no hype and dooming the whole project in the process.
So crazy the only actual legacies were what Jon and Andy, Aquaman and Mera's daughter?
Yeah. It is crazy. 'Cause every one of DC's main cast has multiple sidekicks to pick from, and while they're not all superstars they sure as hell all got more fans than the made-up loser squad they ended up with. Just pick the most popular one for each and age them up, and you have a team with some precooked hype behind it, some history, some payoff to all the stories where they implied or directly said they would follow in their mentor's footsteps. Dick Grayson as Batman would definitely go over better than Jace fricking Fox.
>DC got it right ONCE with COIE
You got it wrong right off the bat
What???
They're rebooting again?
I feel like DC is truly the reverse of Marvel in regards to rebooting. Marvel needed to reboot decades ago to fix issues like with Magneto's parentage of Quicksilver and Wanda, One More Day, and X-men in general, whilst DC literally can't stop rebooting to their own detriment.
They are going to retire all of the old cast to ape the way to the new shit they have in plans.
Because Supes and Batman are about to become public domain as Doc Savage.
And DC is desperate to shill that New trinity and future shit.
It shows how little you people know about the public domain.
Seriously, all we'll get will be shitty horror movies, they're not retiring the characters.
This. And unlike Mickey and Pooh, what horror movie can they even make?
>What if Superman...But EVIL!
As if that hasn't been done to fricking death already not only with Superman proxies, but Superman himself.
Although I will laugh my ass off if Marvel just shoves a character called Superman into their comics.
They already have a Clark Kent. All they need is an excuse.
isn't there an entire decade left before Superman becomes part of the public domain
10 years is an incredibly short time.
they are absolutely not going to reboot when they have a superman and batman movies coming out in the next 1-2 years you moron
public domain means nothing, that's just the genesis of the first year of their appearances aka nothing like the modern interpretations. WB will milk that shit into the ground
>they are absolutely not going to reboot when they have a superman and batman movies coming out in the next 1-2 years
That's another good reason to reboot. Movie synergy.
They're also going to give drastic new origins to characters like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in the new universe
There's no actual evidence that this is leading to a reboot, it's just speculation. My prediction is that if it's a "reboot" it won't be in any meaningful way - it will be in the same way that Death Metal was a reboot; just DC shrugging their shoulders and saying "some things are canon, maybe that thing you like is or maybe it isn't. Don't ask us to elaborate"
All the rebboots since Infinite Crisis have been incredibly half ass. They only make things more confusing without changing anything significant.
It's always the same shit, Just
>a couple characters disappear
>A 70s or 90s character reappears and everyone pretend they were always there
>A couple people will get a new origin that does not line up with the last two decades, meanwhile villains and side characters introduced in those two decades are still around
>Legion will reappear again, and people still won't give a shit
>Half the Superman villains are written out and will be re-introduced with new origins in the next year
>More New God history is retconned in, making them more confusing
>Hawkman gets a new mini and origin everyone will ignore in a month
>Something happens to the JSA and everyone will hate it
>Earth is renumbered or retitled into something new...again
Superman and JSA are the only ones who actually see consequences from all the franchise reboots.
>Legion will reappear again
what? I don't even halfway try to keep up with DC anymore. did they really try and shoehorn the Legion into current-day Earth?
>and people still won't give a shit
well yeah, if they're still as shitty as their last iteration lmao
>did they really try and shoehorn the Legion into current-day Earth?
no, but nobody's been writing a legion book since Bendis left (I think, there might have been a short run at some point). LGH is kind of a continuity nightmare, and there doesn't seem to be many writers interested in the characters so basically they're just in limbo
>LGH
Legion of Gay Heroes?
Not since Bendis got his hands on them and brought them back on 2019. But they tend to always be on the other side of a reboot, only for it to last 5 months at the most and vanish all over again.
>All the rebboots since Infinite Crisis have been incredibly half ass
>Implying Crisis on Infinite Earths wasn't a half-assed reboot
You forgot the Titans
I'm betting we are getting Wheelchair Babs again and Connor Kent is going right back to limbo where he came from.
Beyond that Wally might be going bye bye again
Harley will be retconned to always having been an antihero and never associated with Joker at all
Definitely going to see all new updated versions of the Superman villain and supporting cast. That always happens every reboot.
JSA are back and likely to be currently existing in the modern day. Alan is now too valuable as the token gay classic hero for DC to parade around.
80s Captain Atom is likely returning.
Titans are going to be retconned right back to 14-15 for the what....5th time?
Green Lantern always ends up unscathed from these things weirdly.
You people have been assuming that a reboot is coming with every major event and it always end up not happening.
Please, tell me DC is going to make Tim and Superboy normal people again.
Dude give up, they're not rebooting anything, not ever since they shit the bed with the New 52, they've spent every event since debooting their universe.
Hell, even before that, the events were all just trying to bring back concepts that died with the original Crisis.
There is no reboot (yet). It is instead an alternate universe brand similar to the Ultimate Marvel line (fourth times the charm)
Another reboot? But I thought Rebirth was fine as it is. My guess is they would have to make it worse.
>Babs can't walk
>Richard choses Starfire, also Starfire is black
>Superman and Wonder Woman are a couple
>Beast Boy is red
>Ace is the only Wally West
Besides the ultimate stuff, the most hated theory as of now is that White Knight Universe is this new Ultimate universe as Spiderman alone started the original Ultimate run.
Because the last issue with joker kids ended with Old Man Bruce Going after a Superboy age Clark to tutor him.
White Knight universe still baffles me because it literally seems like they gave one random guy carte blanche to create his own alternate DC timeline. Like do they let anybody do that? Just write fanfiction and say it's official?
It also turned into shit when Harley's idiot children appeared. I don't give a frick about those. I liked the "two harleys" concept though, explaining the radically different Dini HQ and juggalo HQ as literally different people claiming the same identity.
There is literally only one shit idea in that.
>Babs can't walk
Are they STILL trying to put Babs on a wheelchair? They tried it with Infinite Frontier and the fandom told them to frick off.
That ship has sailed 13 years ago.
How exactly does one steal Martian Manhunter's "powers"? They're not really powers, it's his martian biology. At least in Superman's case there are many established ways to weaken him.
Same with Aquaman. You would think the only thing that would be stolen is his telepathy.
And with Hal there, just go recharge the ring again.
They take away his ability to shapeshift and telepathy and martian vision and beams…
Act of God, but good?
Act of Amanda Waller.
Act of God with some Dark Nights: Metal mixed in since all the Justice League Amazos have a multiversal Batman downloaded into their brains.
>Act of God
Lmao
What about the dozens of super heroes who aren't one of these 7?
Do they lose their powers too?
There's an entire Superman Family, does losing 1 really mean everyone else is useless?
All superheroes and villains lost their powers are were sent to super Blackgate.
Why do they keep giving Aquaman armor? He lives unda da sea.
I'm amazed anyone is still reading DC.
Wasn’t Batman already robbed of his billions? What else can they take from him?
They could take a few kids off his hands
you mean damian whos likes 16 now and is allowed to leave or stay, they all have their own lives and even then he can jsut run back to the shadows
>damian whos likes 16 now
14 actually, and he was leaving on his own since he was 10 anyway.
doesnt he become batman in bethlehem ?
I still hate Damien Wayne as a concept. Kinda defeats the whole Batman rebuilding broken family with the Robins et. al. But he’s broken and damaged and can’t give up the war. Really doesn’t mesh with giving him his own true kid imho
The one page I've seen for this event said that all the Amazeos were uploaded with the memories of alternate batmen, is this true?
It's nice to see these guys together again. The last time we saw them working together as a team which was years ago, but Waid being in charge makes me less excited.
Alternatively, Batman is stupid, poor, and has no prep time.
There is no way in hell they’d do something like that, mostly to never give the average American any sort of idea of how much power we have as individuals against an oppressive state that has openly acted against our best interest at every given turn as they’ve been reduced to direct threats against us as a whole for potential revolutions
Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman at the front and center always take the excitement and stakes out of any mainline story.
Yeah, because the last major event when they weren't was super exciting.
>Wonder Woman
>front and center
I wish. She is sidelined in the first few pages and kept around as a cheerleader for one side.
Wondy is so cute brehs
>act of good as an event
more batwank? who asked for this shit
no one asked. and thats why its gonna fail. at least metal was edgy enough to make people roll their eyes and smile so they people kind of kept up and tried to enjoy it
I quite like DC and I'm reading a lot of their books, and I don't care if other people are cynical and jaded, I am looking forward to Absolute Power.
Contrarian I see. You'll fit in here just fine.
I'm not a contrarian. I just became interested in comic books a few years ago. I took advantage of a lot of the jumping on points during Dawn of DC, and I've grown to really love this universe and these characters. I know there's problems, but I enjoy it overall.
In that case, enjoy it while it lasts kid. In a few years you'll be just as jaded and cynical as the rest of us.
Maybe so. I just kind of take stuff for what it is. I have always been interested in comics and the shared universe aspect, and I've loved diving into both the DC and Marvel universes, but I like DC a little more. I've also begun reading the Energon Universe and all the Ghost Machine comics and I'm loving so much of it.
I like you anon. Your happiness is my happiness.
Lanterns lose power in their rings literally every issue and have to work around it. Hal and Bruce should be leading this group