> Release season two of the Proud Family reboot on Black History Month
> Have an episode aptly titled "Juneteenth"
> Center said episode on one of the character's adopted dad coming from a former slave family.
> "SLAVERY BUILT AMERICA" song number
> Massive Statue Removal and ape mode segment
DISNEY IN 2023 ANONS!
What was the point of doing this reboot? Did Bruce W. Smith want to make more family sitcom episodes or just use it as a mouthpiece for his politics?
Proud Family was always aesops and mouthpieces.
>mouthpiece for his politics?
The old show did this too.
proud family as a franchise always had a giant tone problem. it couldn’t and still can’t decide if it wants to be realistic or wacky.
wait so they're happy with slavery now because it built america? or do they not like america and wish it wasn't built
because yknow, there's no fence keeping you IN. you can go right to africa if you want, they won't and can't stop you.
it gets better.
> "Lincoln Wanted to deport us"
> Lincoln
> Deporting slaves
Some day you're going to figure out that your middle school history textbook liked about a LOT of things.
https://www.history.com/news/abraham-lincoln-black-resettlement-haiti
*lied
I hate talking about politics, but you have to understand the context of that time, even after so many years, black people still seem as outsiders in america, the slavery ended but black people weren't citizens at the same caliber as white people, so of course Lincoln wanted to get rid of us
He did. There have been a few attempts. The most famous was when we sent a whole ass lot of them to Liberia, which worked till European nations tore its ass hole out for bad trade deals.
Not just Haiti, but Liberia.
Multiple states, including Pennsylvania and Ohio, were rounding up black people for deportation to the christian motivated Liberian colonies. Lincoln was not an abolitionist. Most abolitionists hated slavery as a concept, but also hated blacks. They thought it was unchristian to hold christians as slaves, but sure as hell didn't want to live near non-whites. A major abolitionist US military officer named Covington loved the US, hated slavery, and thought that the massacre he carried out at Sand Creek was morally good because the Indians were not christians.
He gave them the choice to stay or leave to Liberia.
Most chose to stay.
>WYPIPO BAAAAD EVEN ABAHAM LINKIN
I would really like black americans to develop some kind of cultural thing to hold onto that isn't merely not being white and being sad about it.
Ohio was conducting expulsions. Kentucky, Illinois, Virginia, Oregon and Kansas banned blacks from entering the state, from employment, or from being a non-slave in the state. It wasn't exactly voluntary is there was a gun to their head.
*Voluntary nature may vary by use of state's rights which still existed at the time
This is true, though.
Is not false but not quite true either. He was pro slaves going back to africa but getting economic aid back in the old continent to becomes a strong nation.
cute moron
He did.
Just because he didn't believe that people should be enslaved, doesn't mean he also didn't want them to go back.
This is actually true. Hell the emancipation proclamation specifically ensured slaves remained enslaved in the Union. Hell prior to the civil war the republicans actually attempted to ratify the corwin amendment to constitutionally protect the right to keep slaves in a vain attempt to keep the south from seceding. Sorry to break this to you anon but the Union didn't give a flying frick about Black people or slavery for that matter.
Nothing you said has anything to do with deporting slaves. Why would he want to keep slaves and deport them simultaneously?
to enforce segregation. It was okay for blacks to be on plantations, but the second they were off, to Africa they were sent.
It's wage slavery, not chattel slavery. But I get it, chattel slavery is 'the' slavery.
Atun Shei is a lying scumbag who uses cherry picked data to prop up pin points of history, displays a mole hill as a mountain, and ignores or denies conflicting information. He's Buzzfeed for teenage historians.
Lincoln did not want to free the slaves. Abotionists within the Republican party hated him. Thats why John Fremont broke the party in two before the 1864 election.
Lincoln's overall opinion was to free the slaves, he did believe they should be free, his main troublesome politics came with deciding what to do with them afterward. He did briefly consider sending them back to Africa or Haiti (which sending them all to create their own country or to an independent black power was probably progressive as hell for the day), but quickly gave up on the idea once he realized it wasn't really feasible.
Thanks to ol John Booth we'll never know what he would have truly settled on.
>John Booth
The TRUE hero of all black americans.
John Wilkes Booth was a not a lone wolf assassin but a pawn of pissed of "ex"-slaveowners who wanted a north American slave empire.
yeah actually didn't know this, but most anons explained it in a way that makes sense. These people were kidnapped and in order to give them back freedom, return them home.
Does the episode even SAY that? You can't just say "white people were all racist, no matter what." and expect people to not ask about the circumstances of why it happened. Like you if you gotta go in raw, don't bust your nut in 30 seconds.
Funny that this isn't how the Spanish missionaries saw it. Couldn't enslave native Californians UNTIL they were Christians.
Lincoln gained support partially on the promise that he'd send the Black folks back to Africa, as a gesture of good will. He had a lot of fricked up politics, though, and was not the amazing leader or well-intentioned lover of the constitution and rule of law that people think he was, just because of the Civil War.
Lincoln was the grandfather of shitbirds like Wilson and FDR.
I watched the Razorshits video too. Can't believe someone got so mad at Atun Shei that they actually put an unironic "Checkmate Lincolnites" piece onto youtube.
>Atun Shei
???
Just type in Checkmate Lincolnites to youtube. Razor is adopting many of the confederate character's positions.
where's the lie tho
He didn't "want to deport" them. He offered to send them to Liberia because he genuinely thought they'd want to go back to Africa. He changed approaches when he realized they didn't.
They think America should belong to them because of cotton skyscrapers. Blacks did help build America but that was in conjuction with every other race doing the same thing. Blacks also don't own the concept of oppression and slavery in the country. Irish people were brought over as slaves long before them to pick tobacco and let's not even get into the slavery and genocide the natives were committing before euros showed up.
The Irish were not slaves. They were indentured servants who could volunteer for a contract, could not be born into slavery, and could hold property. Their children were not born into the contract or into slavery. They had legal rights and protections. Real slaves didn't.
Don't forget... African slaves came from African Kingdoms.
Also; about Abe Linvoln, he was known to despise slavery as a moral concept *and* did not hold a dislike of Africans. He'll, he was friend with Frederick Fricking Douglass. A good chunk people are quoting "hurrdurr Lincoln racist" is either they can't understand that everyone (black/white/red/yellow/brown) was racist back then by today's standards, and the guy was cornered to actions politically.
He could have released all slaves, but then an entire country would get fricked.
He did try to send Africans to Liberia, but really... why the frick stay in the US with all the shit they deal with?
There was also that mass Indian lynching, with Lincoln trying to get pardoned as much as possible — guessing presidential pardons weren’t so much “my word is law“ as they are today.
He did indeed hate blacks. That's why instead of freeing them, he cut pro-slavery zones in the emancipation proclamation he wrote. It's why allowed slavery to continue even after the war was over. It's also why he was putting escaped slaves into concetration camps to be used as forced labor (we have army officer notes showing that), and why he allowed Confederate officers to keep their slaves as property in Ohio's POW Camp Chase. He could have issued a second proclimation after the war to speed up abolition - he didn't. Those Union held slaves wouldn't be freed until 8 months after Lee surrendered.
Douglas is held up as some kind of saviour for Lincoln, but the truth is that Lincoln saw him as "one of the good ones."
>trying
He could have pardoned all the Indians who were rounded up for defending their land. Those indians accused weren't even part of the band which attacked the invading colonists. Lincoln didn't. He chose to let children swing. Frick Lincoln.
The Irish we're not slaves. And yes there was fighting amongst different groups just like in Europe but the horrifics caused by the Europeans onto natives and then Africans were not seen before.
Look at what Belgium did to the congo and it's people for the rubber trade and find anything similar before that or since.
For all practical purposes MOST immigrant groups were enslaved. We just didn't call it that. But when you're forced to work for company scrip hundreds of miles away from civilization with no way back under the threat of violence or death, what else are you going to call it?
Different anon, but irish were not normally kidnapped to sell into slave trades. They were seen as lesser whites that's for sure. Same with italians. They enslaved themselves to the catholic church.
>The Irish we're not slaves
lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ireland
https://www.historyireland.com/the-viking-slave-trade-entrepreneurs-or-heathen-slavers/
https://waterfordtreasures.wixsite.com/wattreasuresblog/post/the-viking-slave-trade-in-ireland
https://www.history.com/news/st-patrick-slavery-pirate-kidnapping-real-facts
>in Ireland
The claim was
>Irish people were brought over as slaves
Which they weren't. Indentured servitude was shit, but it wasn't chattel slavery or serfdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth
https://history.ucsd.edu/_files/undergraduate/honors-theses/Slaves-To-A-Myth.pdf
https://limerick1914.medium.com/the-imagery-of-the-irish-slaves-myth-dissected-143e70aa6e74
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-irish-slaves/fact-check-first-slaves-in-north-american-colonies-were-not-100-white-children-from-ireland-idUSKBN23O2BS
> Irish people were brought over as slaves long before them to pick tobacco
That’s false and has been thoroughly debunked ages ago. Shit, Irish historians themselves call that shit a lie.
Slavery continues to build America. Real wages have not increased in 70 years, while production has more than tripled. Workers can no longer afford homes, and can only afford college by taking on obscene amounts of debt that can't be discharged, ensuring they will always live in constant fear of losing their job and will never have the balls to perform a general strike like France and the UK are doing now.
By definition, that isn’t slavery.
>Slavery built America
It's also not even remotely true. America was built on genocide, colonialism, worker oppression, and opportunism after wars. What grew America to a global superpower was colonialism in Central/South America and Asian, not slavery and post world war industrial booms.
Chattel slavery was part of a segment of American history, but the blanket statement "slavery built America" is just trying to monopolize suffering. It's a bigger lie than that 1612 project bullshit.
It's 1619 I believe.
>America was built on genocide, colonialism, worker oppression, and opportunism after wars
Well, Buffalo Soldiers also pretty much won the Indian Wars of the 1870's, so still yay black folks?
So are any of the episodes funny?
Who's this cutie?
from centaurworld
Yes, but more specifically?
The one where Puff acts like a deadbeat dog dad is.
Funny?
is that way sir
God have mercy on us. Cause I know you guys are gonna ape out about this for months.
It's literal black-whining propaganda. It crossed the line from innocent fun to educational but biased to finally "We're going to outright lie and spew progressive talking points because black and racism n shiet".
Of COURSE we're going to talk about it, it's exactly what we don't want in cartoons.
Maya is the worst character in the show. Lacienega is a piece of shit but at least she knows it
I don't mind the proud family was always about black culture and their history, i see it as their thing, i don't care what they say or do in their series
Are we still supposed to pretend like it's not obvious these cartoons are meant to groom children
I freaked out some shills for this by pointing out that a decade ago I had the view that many poor people today aren't meaningfully different from slaves because they know my worldview is and has always been much more meaningful than this horseshit
When you spew this political shit you are being an ideological mind slave who ironically acquires the condition he shames others for inflicting - what a corkscrew!
It's on a streaming service. If you let your child watch it with impunity without knowing what they're watching then you're justa shit parent
oh good he's here, that means he's not shitting up an on-topic thread.
Curled up my lip at this like i sniffed a turd. This is from a cartoon idiot, though I know it doesn't seem like a real one
Can you really not tell the difference
Didn't you rape your niece?
>Comes from a former slave family
Isn’t this literally everyone on the planet earth?
The Proud Family having an episode about slavery is the least surprising thing about it. I was more surprised the previous show only did one on segregation and a couple on racism
It shows how much society has absolutely changed.
Meh.
Ahh sweet another /misc/ thread disguised on Cinemaphile
Do you actually think this one is going to last long? Seems about as good as trying to access someone's bank account with a tiny photo of your mark taped to your face. If this cartoon isn't acceptable for discussing like a cartoon it's not acceptable for watching like a cartoon either.
He's upset people don't like the message. That's it. Just ignore him
Personally I'm waiting with bated breath for when they finally turn on MLK. Lincoln was inevitable regardless of how much certain people hate him so I'm not surprised
I'm sure this will lead to healthy skepticism about the centralized powerful government that Lincoln favored.
Ya'll just need to listen to Thomas Sowell. He'll set anyone straight.
This thread just stenches to frick. You all need some meds and find some b***hes.
>The Black doesn't have a day.
Yeah, they get a whole month.
mmm I love the idea of a new generation of black children learning to hate white people
you think blm is bad now? wait another 10 years.