>Comic about how capeshit is lame and gay >To defeat capeshitters, instead of using their intelligence and outsmarting them, they just turn into capeshitters themselves >Despite it being one long rant about how capeshit is trash, the comic itself is just typical capeshit but edgier
It's comically moronic.
did i ever claim otherwise? if you'd read it, you'd know that most of their WORK, not their killing, was done via blackmail. the whole reason the seven don't just kill them is that they have so much dirt on them that they could release.
It really doesn't change the fact that whenever there is a fight scene there is zero tension cause Ennis would never ever make is hypocritical Mary Sue's actually struggle with anything.
I like it a lot too. I thought it would benefit from an adaptation though something that worked out the pacing issues and let the story breathe. But I guess that was never on the cards.
The first season of the show was good imo. They sped up the pace, focused in on the Seven as the antagonists, and cut the worst bits like the drawn-out Hughie/Annie relationship. If they'd kept it going at that pace while trying to stay largely faithful to the overall story, it would've been good
But instead they dragged it out and changed major elements of the plot and characters while failing to develop either in any meaningful way since the end of S1. Plus the worst part is that a lot of its become the type of capeshit fights and drama that the comics were explicitly mocking
Am I moronic, or did we not read the same comic? I thought the point of The Boys was >this power corrupts almost absolutely >anyone given this will be ineffective at best, or downright deranged once it becomes clear very few people can stand in the way of their idiosyncratic neuroses. >Even the people capable of stopping them would be borderline unfit for society
Even the anti-corp stuff was an extension of that, swapping out superpowers for economic/media powers
I only got through s1, but I disliked the show. Instead of >having godly powers among mortals corrupts
we seemed to get >oooh, sometimes the bad guys make bad decisions, but they can start to see the error of their ways
Especially when we see A-Train get profiled, Deep get assaulted, Maeve regret her breakup near the finale
>admit its fun
yeah ive read it like 4 times and my mother buys me those books every bithday ive got 4 so far
i read it twice before i even knew the show was a thing and im jsut glad they kept the actual comic intact despite that awulf PRIME sticker
my 3rd invinicible omnibous has it aswell and you cant peel it off
I've never liked ennis. I've never read this either. Ennis seems like the kind of guy that read Cormac McCarthy once and said, "yeah, I can do that", but lacks the skill or nuance to pull it off.
Marshal Law was funnier, had better art, took the concept much further (far more self aware and self critical) and more importantly wasn't written like a gigantic bloated soap.
Only read The Boys if you can't get enough of that dog shit early digital colorization.
The analogy makes more sense in Marshal Law too. Heroes being the result of pro-war sentiment actually has some basis in reality, with many iconic heroes being used in wartime propaganda.
In The Boys it's all anti-corp and anti-pharma which doesn't really connect with super heroes in a meta way, it's just two things Ennis hates put into one camp for convenience. Probably because Ennis is afraid to make an anti-military message that would actually connect the two.
>Probably because Ennis is afraid to make an anti-military message that would actually connect the two.
but he's written similarly scathing critiques about the military. same as superheroes, really: dislikes the industry, but appeciates the actual heroes
The analogy makes more sense in Marshal Law too. Heroes being the result of pro-war sentiment actually has some basis in reality, with many iconic heroes being used in wartime propaganda.
In The Boys it's all anti-corp and anti-pharma which doesn't really connect with super heroes in a meta way, it's just two things Ennis hates put into one camp for convenience. Probably because Ennis is afraid to make an anti-military message that would actually connect the two.
The only thing The Boys has over Marshal Law is the characters, namely Hughie, Butcher, and Stillwell.
Marshal Law is better otherwise.
It is really bad. Even when I was an edgy teen it just came across as pathetic edgelord humor from a moron seething about superheroes being popular. Maybe if it branched out more from constant gay jokes and jerking off Ennis' self-insert more often it would be more bearable because it isn't a terrible concept but Jesus the execution was poor. I did like the character stuff when they weren't fighting the gay Teen Titans or gay Batman and I wish we would have got more of that but I dropped the book around the time they got to Russia.
One thing that bums me out about the book is that Ennis isn't terrible at comedy when the wiener jokes are reigned in a bit but he almost always wants to go in that direction.
>muh trenchoat OCs beat up yor stupid superheroes. Millitary is so cool btw
is it overly edgy? yes. is it a fun antithesis to the superhero genre? also yes.
are you moronic? also yes
Ennis' superheroes just all wear the same trenchcoat outfits.
Yep, it is fun and dunks on capeshit.
That doesn't make it a well made comic, but it is fun and dunks on capeshit.
>I LOVE MARGARET THATCHER AND THE CIA!
love the boys or hate it, you have to admit the parody covers are fun as frick
>Comic about how capeshit is lame and gay
>To defeat capeshitters, instead of using their intelligence and outsmarting them, they just turn into capeshitters themselves
>Despite it being one long rant about how capeshit is trash, the comic itself is just typical capeshit but edgier
It's comically moronic.
you clearly have not read the comic. they are nowhere near as strong as the big league supes, so 99% of their work is done via blackmail, threat, etc.
99% of the supes they kill are killed with their bare hands. What the frick are you on about? Did you even read the whole run?
did i ever claim otherwise? if you'd read it, you'd know that most of their WORK, not their killing, was done via blackmail. the whole reason the seven don't just kill them is that they have so much dirt on them that they could release.
It really doesn't change the fact that whenever there is a fight scene there is zero tension cause Ennis would never ever make is hypocritical Mary Sue's actually struggle with anything.
>you clearly have not read the comic
You clearly are coping hard
hugh is able to kill supes early on BY ACCIDENT
I like it a lot too. I thought it would benefit from an adaptation though something that worked out the pacing issues and let the story breathe. But I guess that was never on the cards.
The first season of the show was good imo. They sped up the pace, focused in on the Seven as the antagonists, and cut the worst bits like the drawn-out Hughie/Annie relationship. If they'd kept it going at that pace while trying to stay largely faithful to the overall story, it would've been good
But instead they dragged it out and changed major elements of the plot and characters while failing to develop either in any meaningful way since the end of S1. Plus the worst part is that a lot of its become the type of capeshit fights and drama that the comics were explicitly mocking
Am I moronic, or did we not read the same comic? I thought the point of The Boys was
>this power corrupts almost absolutely
>anyone given this will be ineffective at best, or downright deranged once it becomes clear very few people can stand in the way of their idiosyncratic neuroses.
>Even the people capable of stopping them would be borderline unfit for society
Even the anti-corp stuff was an extension of that, swapping out superpowers for economic/media powers
I only got through s1, but I disliked the show. Instead of
>having godly powers among mortals corrupts
we seemed to get
>oooh, sometimes the bad guys make bad decisions, but they can start to see the error of their ways
Especially when we see A-Train get profiled, Deep get assaulted, Maeve regret her breakup near the finale
I don't see how that conflicts with anything expressed in this thread, so I don't understand the confusion.
>admit its fun
yeah ive read it like 4 times and my mother buys me those books every bithday ive got 4 so far
i read it twice before i even knew the show was a thing and im jsut glad they kept the actual comic intact despite that awulf PRIME sticker
my 3rd invinicible omnibous has it aswell and you cant peel it off
The problem with people reading this now is they binge read it instead of treating it like a once a month bite-size joke.
I've never liked ennis. I've never read this either. Ennis seems like the kind of guy that read Cormac McCarthy once and said, "yeah, I can do that", but lacks the skill or nuance to pull it off.
Marshal Law was funnier, had better art, took the concept much further (far more self aware and self critical) and more importantly wasn't written like a gigantic bloated soap.
Only read The Boys if you can't get enough of that dog shit early digital colorization.
The analogy makes more sense in Marshal Law too. Heroes being the result of pro-war sentiment actually has some basis in reality, with many iconic heroes being used in wartime propaganda.
In The Boys it's all anti-corp and anti-pharma which doesn't really connect with super heroes in a meta way, it's just two things Ennis hates put into one camp for convenience. Probably because Ennis is afraid to make an anti-military message that would actually connect the two.
>Probably because Ennis is afraid to make an anti-military message that would actually connect the two.
but he's written similarly scathing critiques about the military. same as superheroes, really: dislikes the industry, but appeciates the actual heroes
So what's his excuse to avoid the obvious, real connection?
The only thing The Boys has over Marshal Law is the characters, namely Hughie, Butcher, and Stillwell.
Marshal Law is better otherwise.
Shit story but a lot of fun to read anyway because sometimes honestly frick supes
Revenge porn is a shit genre for shit people.
does anyone remember the walking dead? so now is cool to hate the boys?
Come on pal, 2012 was 10 years ago.
>what is capeshit but edgy
yeah man it's pretty mindblowing stuff
My issue with all these "superheroes but buttholes" stories is that they all stand in the shadow of a giant and they suffer because of it.
It is really bad. Even when I was an edgy teen it just came across as pathetic edgelord humor from a moron seething about superheroes being popular. Maybe if it branched out more from constant gay jokes and jerking off Ennis' self-insert more often it would be more bearable because it isn't a terrible concept but Jesus the execution was poor. I did like the character stuff when they weren't fighting the gay Teen Titans or gay Batman and I wish we would have got more of that but I dropped the book around the time they got to Russia.
One thing that bums me out about the book is that Ennis isn't terrible at comedy when the wiener jokes are reigned in a bit but he almost always wants to go in that direction.
I'm sad we wont see Tek-Knight frick things in the series. Frick the live-action show for taking out the stupidity of the boys.
marshall law did it better
LOVE SAUSAGE