>Multiple books ruined because of it
that's just, like, your opinion, man.
to sail beyond the sunset is his horniest book also his last and it's quite good.
starship troopers in under no obligation to make sense, and I accept it for what it is
But why do they have to send grunts with guns to shoot at 12 foot tall bugs when they can obviously just bomb them with the massive fleet of ships they have?
Its not like there are towns or resources to secure and civilians to watch for, ITS A BUG PLANET
even if they glass the planet they don't wipe out the bugs, the bugs will survive in caves underground and such
if the surface has human infrastructure you can't just carpet bomb everything, unless you don't care about the infrastructure.
and althought it doesn't matter, in the books the bugs aren't the only belligerents, they have humanoid allies and much of the combat occurs in urban areas.
>in the books the bugs aren't the only belligerents, they have humanoid allies and much of the combat occurs in urban areas
The only urban combat is in the epilogue against the skinnies who are never seen again besides being mentioned swapping sides to the TR when the bugs started to lose the war, besides that it's all barren deserts like the movie
Kinetic Asteroid Bomb would instantly destroy the planet whole
If you could travel far into the space surely you could push a sizeable asteroid with enough speed to decimate that planet, not the surface but the whole planet itself.
And you know what's even funnier is that we could do that with our current technology. Gravity assisting, lot's of calculation, and some time to make it fast enough.
In the book the bugs were smart, they looked like centaurs but with spider lower bodies instead of horses and the grunts wore gorilla mech suits that let them jump all over the place like Michael Jordan. It was pretty breasts. Also, Rico's dad ended up joining the troopers and Did was a dude who died in the first chapter. As for the move, idk something about communism and Russians just throwing wave after wave of bodies against the nazis or something.
>tfw hero is someone who dies in combat >no one wants to be a hero
Sgt Sugar would receive the Medal of Honor for his heroic actions as he held of a swarm of 6000 bugs and ultimately detonated a nuke famously ending his Mobile Infantry career and entering Federation legend with a k/d of 7365:1
The bugs had living, interplanetary artillery weapons, and up close they had enormous swarms of agile, armoured shock troops supported by maneuverable air unitsand all of these were commanded by 10000 IQ psychic generals.
Should have just abandoned their outposts on those planets and glassed them.
By going full moron. >Hurr durr we gun squash dem dumb bergs gud hurr.
Actually bugs aren't mindless Black folk, they've got brain bugs that have a plan to deal with your dumb arse. >Durr u sum kinda bug luvver or summin?
The irony is Heinlein meant the bugs and an allegory for China unironically and nobody got Verhoeven's point about military planning with your dick.
>science that comes at great costs and effort vs a creature that is biologically space faring by default
think about the time/resources it takes us to send a fricking hotpocket into space vs a creature that is just born with the capability to shit out meteors at targets outside of the galaxy its firing from
its like trillions of dollars and effort vs a creature just existing as is
oh i was just talking shit i cant even remember what it said in the movies - maybe the book even has its own mentioned distance but the point is still the same in that its simple monkey boys vs basically space flowers
oh i was just talking shit i cant even remember what it said in the movies - maybe the book even has its own mentioned distance but the point is still the same in that its simple monkey boys vs basically space flowers
The bugs were firing at asteroids in the Solar system's asteroid belt from another part of the galaxy, which is still moronic and defies physics. It would take multiple generations just to travel to our nearest star with the best possible conventional propulsion because it's not possible to travel faster than light without folding space (warp drive, hyperspace, whatever you want to call it).
Proxima Centauri is only something like 4 light years away. Plus the journey would be shorter for the people onboard, travelling at relativistic speeds. It's completely impossible with our current level of tech, but not too far fetched sometime in the future.
The point is that an energy blast being shot from another system would not arrive to earth until potentially centuries later, because a projectile, even an energy based one, is not going to bypass relativistic speed limits. The bugs would have to be in the solar system for it to even be possible, and the calculations required would be astronomical (although to be fair, the brain bugs could at least be a gimme for doing the calculations within the same star system).
never going to happen, it's a simple delta-v problem. the more fuel you bring, the heavier your ship is and the more delta-v you need to move it.
it's probably why we haven't found alien life, there's just no reason to go beyond the solar system. any such attempts are essentially futile. FTL doesn't exist and never will and that's why there is no space empire.
Waffs in nicoll-dyson lasa powawing a ship to neaw 99 pewcent o light speed
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Anonymous
that's an interesting idea, but how do you slow down when you approach the destination? the ship has to be massive to begin with so it would have a ton of mass traveling close to c, that would be insanely expensive to bring to a stop.
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Anonymous
You just use solar sails and reverse slingshot around a white dwarf, neutron star or black hole. One other method is to skim the edge of red giants.
They could also be part of a “highway” where the initial probes set up a corresponding laser to slow down incoming ships.
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Cont.
This autist with infinite money would have humanity spread across the entire galaxy within 10 million years without FTL.
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Anonymous
>10 million years
the problem with autists it they can't comprehend how humans work. no one is committing to a project with a 10-million-year timescale.
this guy's voice is so annoying idk if i can watch a half hour.
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Anonymous
homie we black hole farming for trillions of years
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Anonymous
even if you could convince all of humanity to agree to build the initial infrastructure and ships, there is zero guarantee that humanity will stay committed to that project for 10 million years. in fact it is quite likely that the project will be abandoned in short order, because humans are a fickle bunch and our priorities change with time. and on the scale of 10 million years humans won't even be humans anymore, we'll have evolved by then into something else, either some kind of homogenous post-man, the Ultimate Mutt, or distinct species of post-humanity. a different kind of human might not care about travelling between the stars or prior commitments to help humans do so.
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Anonymous
Dysons spheres its all about dyson spberes just gonna make dhsons soberes until we are all dyson soberes uolosded ito bigger dusons wshoehere and dusons sobere cover every sun int the flaxy
The afghan war was in some ways similar to the war with the bugs, because Afghanistan has more caves per mile than anywhere else on earth. A massive percentage of the population lives underground and there is is no-where on earth with more potential hiding places.
What won the day for the federation was their use of psychics. They were able to map out all of the bugs' tunnels, and then they were able to systematically destroy the tunnels and control the bugs' movement, forcing them into positions where they could be more practically exterminated.
that death gave me a complex as a kid
not the people getting torn apart by giant bugs. though that was awful. but the guy getting his brains sucked stuck with me. he's a good actor.
The US doesn't lose wars. They have ROE they have to follow which often puts them at a significant disadvantage, and they never use 1/10th of their military capability. The last time they used their might was WW2, where they fought in two completely different theatres against two military superpowers and defeated both. Vietnam was a "conflict" and heroin smuggling operation, and Afghanistan was an even bigger heroin trafficking operation, which only ended because clandestine fentanyl production had put a major dent in their profits.
They aren't fighting a traditional war. Modern warfare is a slog and the actual objectives are far more complex and clandestine than any other time in history. The US isn't trying to capture Afghanistan or Vietnam, and they don't wage all put war, but instead try to put infrastructure and institutions in place that will fight the enemy after they leave. And the CIA plays a huge but unseen role in all of that activity. Afghanistan was only FUBAR because Biden is a fricking moron.
you're right about the ROE. we hamstring ourselves and play by rules our enemies laugh at. To truly win a war, especially a culture foreign to our own, the gloves need to come off, like the pacific theater in WWII. Unfortunately we like to enmesh ourselves in these half measure wars, when it should be that the only wars worth fighting are when the gloves need to come off
Cope
If you fail all your strategic objectives, you lost the war. Saying the war was unfair and complaining you cant just nuke everything is like gaymer tier shit
none of that territory had any value. literally just an empire ruling over dirt and Black folk less valuable than the dirt. british empire one of the most embarrassing shit empires of all time that destroyed western civilization
I've heard that theory but there's really nothing in the movie to suggest that it has an unreliable narrator or that the events are supposed to be fake. A lot of people are still huffing Verhoven's farts even though he's not half the genius that Heinlein was.
>there's really nothing in the movie to suggest that it has an unreliable narrator or that the events are supposed to be fake
I mean, there is though, Verhoeven specifically designed at least the first Earth attack to be unvelievable and a false flag. There's no reason to believe bugs could shoot an asteroid out of their orbit and hit earth from across the galaxy. It was to mock the justifications for the Iraq war which were obviously nonsense. After that though, who knows, they did seem to get their act together and start winning.
>It was to mock the justifications for the Iraq war
Thanks for showing your age, zoomer. Starship Troopers came out in 1997. the Iraq war happened in 2003, a full six years later and under a different presidential administration.
>There's no reason to believe bugs could shoot an asteroid out of their orbit and hit earth from across the galaxy.
Faster than light travel is not explained
This came out 6 years before the iraq war
You're an idiot.
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Adding to that, they don't win the war in the movie. The propaganda promotes they idea that human victory is inevitable thanks to new weapons and blah blah, but they lose the battle for big-K, they lose Zaguma Beach, they barely win and only by mostly luck on planet-P but that's not final victory.
And if you are willing to hold your nose and accept the Neumeier canon, it's actually a battle to just hold the line from that point on. The bugs destroying much of the space-based defenses in the Sol system and landing on Mars.
there never was a war to be fought, that was the message. the movie opens up with a meteor that would have caused much more havoc being handled easily, yet they let 8 million die because.... ???
the whole point of the invasion is just a psychological trick to get people to do the dirty work of the pyschics, it ends with brain bug being captured so the mind reading human can show up and do ungodly experiments to it, expanding his ability to control. this is exhibited when he uses his mind powers to control the weasel in the beginning of the movie, then halfway through the movie when he convinces his friends to go find brain bug for him. "go bug mom" but for our main characters. it's both a propaganda film and a telling of the moments the humans became the weird psychic brain bug aliens in human form.
I've heard that theory but there's really nothing in the movie to suggest that it has an unreliable narrator or that the events are supposed to be fake. A lot of people are still huffing Verhoven's farts even though he's not half the genius that Heinlein was.
Adding to that, they don't win the war in the movie. The propaganda promotes they idea that human victory is inevitable thanks to new weapons and blah blah, but they lose the battle for big-K, they lose Zaguma Beach, they barely win and only by mostly luck on planet-P but that's not final victory.
And if you are willing to hold your nose and accept the Neumeier canon, it's actually a battle to just hold the line from that point on. The bugs destroying much of the space-based defenses in the Sol system and landing on Mars.
The book is kind of ambiguous on whether or not they are actually losing the war. Finding a queen bug was a desperate attempt to turn the tide of the war. And even then the book is ambiguous about whether not that would even be effective.
Love how Verhoeven made Starship Troopers feel breezy compared to Robocop and Total Recall. It feels like a 90s teen film in space. The Prom, The Sports, The Recruitment, and the cast of characters are doing before they were sent to war.
how would insects chuck asteroids across the milky way in a few months or less when those rocks were clearly not going faster than ~100 m/s? (based on the ship collision, ship was traveling in opposite direction mind you).
>no armor >no cavalry of any kind >miserly usage of airpower >no fricking artillery >infantry tactics consist of what you thought line warfare looked like as a kid playing with toy soldiers
You tell me, anon.
I used to think this movie was fascist satire as a kid, but now I'm convinced I was just stupid and Verhoeven is also. It does feel like an anti war movie but at the same time I hate those ugly disgusting bugs and we should kill them all.
So you're telling me these people invented space travel but don't have any military robots and still send in meatbags to the frontlines? Yeah okay whatever lol
numbers
They literally didn't lose a war, moron.
what will it take for this guy to get an honest adaptation
>time enough for love adaptation starring christina hendricks as maureen johnson
my cinematic dream
i would prefer canadian actress Sarah Gadon.
>not old enough
it's a movie
You have a fricking problem bro. Get some help
For me it's pic related.
I think it would make an extremely kino mini-series and i'm amazed no one has gone for it yet.
have you heard of dallos before? it's an anime series highly inspired by harsh mistress. the opening song is also great.
>series
ova i should've said
Heinlein was too much of a free loving swinger to be taken seriously. Multiple books ruined because of it
>Multiple books ruined because of it
that's just, like, your opinion, man.
to sail beyond the sunset is his horniest book also his last and it's quite good.
>that scene where the sister is showing her brother her pussyhole
classic late-heinlinian-core
>Howard Families is just one big mail-order frick-a-thon
god i wish I was a member of the Howard Family.
Roberta Heinlein is a terrible pseudonym, what was he thinking?
They lost the initial invasion.
starship troopers in under no obligation to make sense, and I accept it for what it is
But why do they have to send grunts with guns to shoot at 12 foot tall bugs when they can obviously just bomb them with the massive fleet of ships they have?
Its not like there are towns or resources to secure and civilians to watch for, ITS A BUG PLANET
even if they glass the planet they don't wipe out the bugs, the bugs will survive in caves underground and such
if the surface has human infrastructure you can't just carpet bomb everything, unless you don't care about the infrastructure.
and althought it doesn't matter, in the books the bugs aren't the only belligerents, they have humanoid allies and much of the combat occurs in urban areas.
>in the books the bugs aren't the only belligerents, they have humanoid allies and much of the combat occurs in urban areas
The only urban combat is in the epilogue against the skinnies who are never seen again besides being mentioned swapping sides to the TR when the bugs started to lose the war, besides that it's all barren deserts like the movie
Kinetic Asteroid Bomb would instantly destroy the planet whole
If you could travel far into the space surely you could push a sizeable asteroid with enough speed to decimate that planet, not the surface but the whole planet itself.
And you know what's even funnier is that we could do that with our current technology. Gravity assisting, lot's of calculation, and some time to make it fast enough.
In the book the bugs were smart, they looked like centaurs but with spider lower bodies instead of horses and the grunts wore gorilla mech suits that let them jump all over the place like Michael Jordan. It was pretty breasts. Also, Rico's dad ended up joining the troopers and Did was a dude who died in the first chapter. As for the move, idk something about communism and Russians just throwing wave after wave of bodies against the nazis or something.
wars are almost always about killing the male surplus so they dont cause chaos back at home
Them having 0 vehicles or airstrikes is stupid, since we see said vehicles and airstrikes when its convenient.
>be a hero
>nuke some bugs
Pick one
>tfw hero is someone who dies in combat
>no one wants to be a hero
Sgt Sugar would receive the Medal of Honor for his heroic actions as he held of a swarm of 6000 bugs and ultimately detonated a nuke famously ending his Mobile Infantry career and entering Federation legend with a k/d of 7365:1
He killed bugs good, maybe even better than Johnny
The bugs had living, interplanetary artillery weapons, and up close they had enormous swarms of agile, armoured shock troops supported by maneuverable air unitsand all of these were commanded by 10000 IQ psychic generals.
Should have just abandoned their outposts on those planets and glassed them.
>advanced sci-fi civilization
>loses war to insects
wonder where that guy in the front is now
Tim Pool is talking about this right now. How interesting.
By going full moron.
>Hurr durr we gun squash dem dumb bergs gud hurr.
Actually bugs aren't mindless Black folk, they've got brain bugs that have a plan to deal with your dumb arse.
>Durr u sum kinda bug luvver or summin?
The irony is Heinlein meant the bugs and an allegory for China unironically and nobody got Verhoeven's point about military planning with your dick.
>science that comes at great costs and effort vs a creature that is biologically space faring by default
think about the time/resources it takes us to send a fricking hotpocket into space vs a creature that is just born with the capability to shit out meteors at targets outside of the galaxy its firing from
its like trillions of dollars and effort vs a creature just existing as is
>shit out meteors at targets outside of the galaxy its firing from
is it really another galaxy? how fast do these meteors move?
oh i was just talking shit i cant even remember what it said in the movies - maybe the book even has its own mentioned distance but the point is still the same in that its simple monkey boys vs basically space flowers
The bugs were firing at asteroids in the Solar system's asteroid belt from another part of the galaxy, which is still moronic and defies physics. It would take multiple generations just to travel to our nearest star with the best possible conventional propulsion because it's not possible to travel faster than light without folding space (warp drive, hyperspace, whatever you want to call it).
Proxima Centauri is only something like 4 light years away. Plus the journey would be shorter for the people onboard, travelling at relativistic speeds. It's completely impossible with our current level of tech, but not too far fetched sometime in the future.
The point is that an energy blast being shot from another system would not arrive to earth until potentially centuries later, because a projectile, even an energy based one, is not going to bypass relativistic speed limits. The bugs would have to be in the solar system for it to even be possible, and the calculations required would be astronomical (although to be fair, the brain bugs could at least be a gimme for doing the calculations within the same star system).
never going to happen, it's a simple delta-v problem. the more fuel you bring, the heavier your ship is and the more delta-v you need to move it.
it's probably why we haven't found alien life, there's just no reason to go beyond the solar system. any such attempts are essentially futile. FTL doesn't exist and never will and that's why there is no space empire.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
that's science fiction man. pure speculation. in the real world we make things go by throwing shit out the trunk.
That's all modern physics. They hit a wall nearly 100 years ago, now everything is guesswork.
not really. they definitely throw some bullshit out and pretend that know exactly what's going on, but it's not like they're just spitballing either.
>requires negative energy states to work
Yeah, it's bullshit.
Waffs in nicoll-dyson lasa powawing a ship to neaw 99 pewcent o light speed
that's an interesting idea, but how do you slow down when you approach the destination? the ship has to be massive to begin with so it would have a ton of mass traveling close to c, that would be insanely expensive to bring to a stop.
You just use solar sails and reverse slingshot around a white dwarf, neutron star or black hole. One other method is to skim the edge of red giants.
They could also be part of a “highway” where the initial probes set up a corresponding laser to slow down incoming ships.
Cont.
This autist with infinite money would have humanity spread across the entire galaxy within 10 million years without FTL.
>10 million years
the problem with autists it they can't comprehend how humans work. no one is committing to a project with a 10-million-year timescale.
this guy's voice is so annoying idk if i can watch a half hour.
homie we black hole farming for trillions of years
even if you could convince all of humanity to agree to build the initial infrastructure and ships, there is zero guarantee that humanity will stay committed to that project for 10 million years. in fact it is quite likely that the project will be abandoned in short order, because humans are a fickle bunch and our priorities change with time. and on the scale of 10 million years humans won't even be humans anymore, we'll have evolved by then into something else, either some kind of homogenous post-man, the Ultimate Mutt, or distinct species of post-humanity. a different kind of human might not care about travelling between the stars or prior commitments to help humans do so.
Dysons spheres its all about dyson spberes just gonna make dhsons soberes until we are all dyson soberes uolosded ito bigger dusons wshoehere and dusons sobere cover every sun int the flaxy
Did you morons seriously miss that the asteroid that hit Buenas Aires was a false flag?
In the book, the bugs had guns and ships.
>greatest superpower the world has ever seen
>loses to third-world rice farmers and goat herders
How?
The afghan war was in some ways similar to the war with the bugs, because Afghanistan has more caves per mile than anywhere else on earth. A massive percentage of the population lives underground and there is is no-where on earth with more potential hiding places.
What won the day for the federation was their use of psychics. They were able to map out all of the bugs' tunnels, and then they were able to systematically destroy the tunnels and control the bugs' movement, forcing them into positions where they could be more practically exterminated.
Also really fat ones like to suck out brains
that death gave me a complex as a kid
not the people getting torn apart by giant bugs. though that was awful. but the guy getting his brains sucked stuck with me. he's a good actor.
Yeah between his acting, and the visual effects of the brain getting sucked through the tube in wet chunks, it's a very memorable shot for a kid.
The US doesn't lose wars. They have ROE they have to follow which often puts them at a significant disadvantage, and they never use 1/10th of their military capability. The last time they used their might was WW2, where they fought in two completely different theatres against two military superpowers and defeated both. Vietnam was a "conflict" and heroin smuggling operation, and Afghanistan was an even bigger heroin trafficking operation, which only ended because clandestine fentanyl production had put a major dent in their profits.
>The US doesn't lose wars, they just win in a different way
The participation trophy theory of war.
They aren't fighting a traditional war. Modern warfare is a slog and the actual objectives are far more complex and clandestine than any other time in history. The US isn't trying to capture Afghanistan or Vietnam, and they don't wage all put war, but instead try to put infrastructure and institutions in place that will fight the enemy after they leave. And the CIA plays a huge but unseen role in all of that activity. Afghanistan was only FUBAR because Biden is a fricking moron.
you're right about the ROE. we hamstring ourselves and play by rules our enemies laugh at. To truly win a war, especially a culture foreign to our own, the gloves need to come off, like the pacific theater in WWII. Unfortunately we like to enmesh ourselves in these half measure wars, when it should be that the only wars worth fighting are when the gloves need to come off
This is, even by this website's standards, one of the more impressively stupid posts I've seen.
He's actually correct about all of it.
>Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan
>superpowers
No, he's really not.
Cope
If you fail all your strategic objectives, you lost the war. Saying the war was unfair and complaining you cant just nuke everything is like gaymer tier shit
NATO = losing wars.
KWAB.
>greatest superpower the world has ever seen
You wish muttlard
>roman empire
>never launched a chemical rocket
lol
cute.
>worthless deserts, tundras, and pajeets
big deal
none of that territory had any value. literally just an empire ruling over dirt and Black folk less valuable than the dirt. british empire one of the most embarrassing shit empires of all time that destroyed western civilization
>more israelitebaiting
you schizos would be more interesting if you could keep your story straight without referring to the mythical jooz
Isn't there a theory that the Mobile Infantry is actually losing the war but the book/movie itself is just one giant propaganda to cover up this fact?
no its all part of the bug masterplan in order to take over humanity leadership and destroy then from within
I've heard that theory but there's really nothing in the movie to suggest that it has an unreliable narrator or that the events are supposed to be fake. A lot of people are still huffing Verhoven's farts even though he's not half the genius that Heinlein was.
>there's really nothing in the movie to suggest that it has an unreliable narrator or that the events are supposed to be fake
I mean, there is though, Verhoeven specifically designed at least the first Earth attack to be unvelievable and a false flag. There's no reason to believe bugs could shoot an asteroid out of their orbit and hit earth from across the galaxy. It was to mock the justifications for the Iraq war which were obviously nonsense. After that though, who knows, they did seem to get their act together and start winning.
>It was to mock the justifications for the Iraq war
Thanks for showing your age, zoomer. Starship Troopers came out in 1997. the Iraq war happened in 2003, a full six years later and under a different presidential administration.
>There's no reason to believe bugs could shoot an asteroid out of their orbit and hit earth from across the galaxy.
Faster than light travel is not explained
This came out 6 years before the iraq war
You're an idiot.
Nah, those justifications for war by corrupt presidents were always there. See Wag the Dog which came out the same year.
Wag the Dog was about the Clinton media machine. Apples and oranges with the case you're trying to make.
Any president can make up reasons to go to war and have the media back them up, you brainlet.
there never was a war to be fought, that was the message. the movie opens up with a meteor that would have caused much more havoc being handled easily, yet they let 8 million die because.... ???
the whole point of the invasion is just a psychological trick to get people to do the dirty work of the pyschics, it ends with brain bug being captured so the mind reading human can show up and do ungodly experiments to it, expanding his ability to control. this is exhibited when he uses his mind powers to control the weasel in the beginning of the movie, then halfway through the movie when he convinces his friends to go find brain bug for him. "go bug mom" but for our main characters. it's both a propaganda film and a telling of the moments the humans became the weird psychic brain bug aliens in human form.
that's assuming all propaganda is just ass-covering.
propaganda can also be a means of galvanizing a people for a cause.
Adding to that, they don't win the war in the movie. The propaganda promotes they idea that human victory is inevitable thanks to new weapons and blah blah, but they lose the battle for big-K, they lose Zaguma Beach, they barely win and only by mostly luck on planet-P but that's not final victory.
And if you are willing to hold your nose and accept the Neumeier canon, it's actually a battle to just hold the line from that point on. The bugs destroying much of the space-based defenses in the Sol system and landing on Mars.
actually it was all dream they had in the purgatory
The book is kind of ambiguous on whether or not they are actually losing the war. Finding a queen bug was a desperate attempt to turn the tide of the war. And even then the book is ambiguous about whether not that would even be effective.
yes
Just like America vs China
>how do the insects shoot asteroids thousands of lightyears to hit earth? How do they put FTL drives on them?
its war in the balls
They didn't have power armor in the movie.
The tv series has one. Verhoeven even produce it. Its a miniseries type of 3d cartoon.
Starship Troopers = Nazi Germany
Bugs = Soviet Union
that's how
war to insects
>How?
Us lose to Vietnam allegory
just like America vs Vietnam or the bisexuals vs gays war of the 90s
Love how Verhoeven made Starship Troopers feel breezy compared to Robocop and Total Recall. It feels like a 90s teen film in space. The Prom, The Sports, The Recruitment, and the cast of characters are doing before they were sent to war.
it's very disappointing that few people consider the possibility that the bugs attacked because their territory was invaded by humans
>the possibility that the bugs attacked because their territory was invaded by humans
They literally brings this up in the movie anon.
how would insects chuck asteroids across the milky way in a few months or less when those rocks were clearly not going faster than ~100 m/s? (based on the ship collision, ship was traveling in opposite direction mind you).
Shut up, goy
What did Verhoeven say? I doubt he wrote it as a false flag even though I agree with you.
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>no armor
>no cavalry of any kind
>miserly usage of airpower
>no fricking artillery
>infantry tactics consist of what you thought line warfare looked like as a kid playing with toy soldiers
You tell me, anon.
All this could be answered by Hollywood liberals having 0 knowledge of warfare and Verhoeven being an idiot.
Bingo.
They weren't advanced at all.
I used to think this movie was fascist satire as a kid, but now I'm convinced I was just stupid and Verhoeven is also. It does feel like an anti war movie but at the same time I hate those ugly disgusting bugs and we should kill them all.
Is the planet being a bug canon?
So you're telling me these people invented space travel but don't have any military robots and still send in meatbags to the frontlines? Yeah okay whatever lol
it makes a little more sense when the meatbag is wearing power armor. a single human can be a tank, artillery, a goddamn destroyer on 2 legs.
During the struggle to redefine society after the collapse, they lost the technology for Raid.
Was it xenocide when Ender blew up Klendathu?