No real idea. She has a lot of fun powers but she's definitly not beating Marceline or the other Elementals with the exception of PB (cause she sucks at using her powers). This seems to be how power levels work in the series from what I can gather:
GOLB>Prismo>Lich=Hunson>Elementals(full powered)>Vampire King>Marceline>Everyone else who I didn't name with a few exceptions
Scarab, his coworkers, and their boss are hard to quantify from what little we know about them. Ice King's magic is OP cause of the crown but he's really stupid so he can get beat by a lot of people.
I love the grass sword power concept so much. I loved it in Parasyte, I loved it in Adventure time. The idea of a sentient weapon you are synergistic with that sits on your arm makes me WET.
I think The Lich might actually be more powerful than Scarab, we have seen him break free out of crystal ice just by melting it with his essence before in the Citadel episodes.
2 months ago
Anonymous
He is. Scarab himself isnt especially powerful (he is no slouch though). He just has a fancy weapon
2 months ago
Anonymous
He is. Scarab himself isnt especially powerful (he is no slouch though). He just has a fancy weapon
The powerscaling is weird. Lich being more powerful than Scarab but getting completely BTFO by Golb while Scarab had enough confidence in his position to tell Golb to stay out of his way
2 months ago
Anonymous
And Scarab being powerful enough to resist GOLB's attacks at least for a time.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Scarab has social power, he has a job that grants him cosmic perks and a fancy weapon. He's also resilient by nature due to his body breaking down into smaller and smaller beetles, which is probably related to his position/nature as a metacosmic entity. We don't know if Golb actually wanted to kill him or was just shooing him off or even toying with him.
Meanwhile the Lich while also having some natural claims to power he seems to have mostly built up his power by mastering magic itself to a very high degree.
yeah but if Finn know's what green is to him the stone should be the same colour as grass for it be an emerald.
I don't think it's crazy to say Evergreen could've given Hunson and maybe even Lich a run for their money. He outclassed the other elementals of his time easily and manage to beat an elemental monster counter to his own powers.
That was almost 10 years ago, and again how is that different from any stupid thread that comes every time there is something new or popular, even things like zelling get generals wverytime there is new content
>you're suggesting they ever broke up >that was your first mistake >implying that Finn didn't give Huntress Wizard to some guy that is the spirit of the forest >gif related
Fuck dat Tree bitch, this is now a GRASS BITCH THREAD I still don't understand him. Is he a grass fella with all the memories of Finn, or just a Finn clone with a grass bod and demonic influence?
theyre the same, memories etc., until the grass body manifests
fern's voice change signifies the shift in grass physiology (stronger) and demon mentality (choosing violence) = different entity from finn, not just a clone
Every time someone shows what places and characters in Ooo look like from Finn's colorblind perspective it all looks so depressing and dreary. Like everything is in a state of dying. Especially sucks since Finn literally lives in one of the most vibrant and green looking parts of Ooo but to him it's all an ugly brown or yellow.
Every time someone shows what places and characters in Ooo look like from Finn's colorblind perspective it all looks so depressing and dreary. Like everything is in a state of dying. Especially sucks since Finn literally lives in one of the most vibrant and green looking parts of Ooo but to him it's all an ugly brown or yellow.
I never got this. Him understanding that rubies are red and emeralds are green and then mixing them up suggests he wasn't always colourblind. Or that he's only colourblind sometimes
colorblindness means you can't easily identify one color from another automatically, not that you cannot learn the names of the colors and develop intuition for telling them apart in the right circumstances.
Some people go years not realizing they're colorblind
I don't know why but I'm sure that the bear Finn killed was their secret kid that HF kept away from him because she didn't want him to become more attached to her (she already feels somewhat uncomfortable by how needy he's become after Jake's death)
>why do i hate this
Because cuck shit is cringe >find finn x lady rainacorn so based
Cuz it's either Jake sharing a woman who he knows will outlive him for eons and is fine with her being open in their marriage.
Or you self insert as Finn.
Ice King was hitting on her so she must be an adult or at least 17 when he did so. She's definitely older than Finn, I think that at least goes without saying. Finn likes older girls anyways
I mean Ice King wasn't really hitting on her, I saw that more as him just trying to seem cool and maybe impress a fellow wizard only for her to ditch him. She had much more of a "cool edgy teen" vibe going with her in that scene. I do agree that she's older than Finn though, I just don't think its a significant amount.
Also Ice King kidnapped LSP when she was still 15, and some of the other princesses seem like they could be around that age as well since they were flirty with Finn. Ice King probably just doesn't realise how old people are (especially if they don't look very human) and the reason he ditched Bubblegum when she was 13 was because she was specifically described as 13 and looked a lot younger than he is used to seeing her.
>Ice King was hitting on her so she must be an adult or at least 17 when he did so.
Pure fanfic. Ice King kidnapped LSP who was 15 and mentioned FP as a princess he found attractive
I do wish we got more Finn and PB even if it was just PB throwing a Finn a bone as thanks for being such a hero. Like her giving him a slightly risqué polaroid of her showing a bit of leg with lipstick mark on it. Their age dynamic could've been cool
Their age dynamic was retconned in anyway, she was never meant to be some ancient matriarch, just a ditzy young princess whose age is "slightly older than Finn"
Almost everyone in Fionna and Cake got a happy ending. Depends on how you look at it, considering that this is the latest content before Together Again.
He's gunna move on, and enjoy life. That's pretty much what's gunna happen to him. Plus, I don't think he'll find new love, because Betty, or he's fucking old. He's like a 1056.
Simon getting old and dying happy is the best thing a human from his time can get. Dude was immortal and all he got out of it was pain, suffering and depression, atleast now he's actually living life as himself.
Simon getting old and dying happy is the best thing a human from his time can get. Dude was immortal and all he got out of it was pain, suffering and depression, atleast now he's actually living life as himself.
I just hope he gets out of his funk and regains his passion for mysterious artefacts and whatnot
it's strange how in the past he was the outcast for being obsessed with the supernatural and magical, and now he's just living like a boring 21st century normie? There's a fucking buffet of curiosities that a scholar like him should be drooling over. Though the depression and betty summoning attempts make sense as to why he wasn't interested.
He could absolutely surpass PB in terms of genius, especially with all the future tech and 1000 years of research to catch up on.
Someone like him could easily figure out how to extend his life for as long as he wants to, and I hope he does. I don't think a character like him could let himself die when there's so much to learn.
I hope there's more spinoffs or miniseries', not too high stakes, just him looking for some artefacts or lost secret to immortality, bringing Finn along to help (and actually enjoying himself this time)
I just want to see him in good spirits and filled with determination for once.
He has potential as a genuine wizard and he could extend his life that way, but he’s not a scientist. An antiquarian, not a doctor. And the path of wizardry in AT seems to mean accepting madness.
Maybe he did explore some of Ooo’s libraries and examined some of Finn’s treasures for a while, but maybe it’s not the same anymore, in the past it was a grand puzzle to figure out the existence of something otherwordly, but now wacked out magic, alternate universes and interdimensional gods are as normal as morning tea. I’m sure there’s deeper things to learn, he just has to remember what motivated him before Betty
Homeboy's earned a little retirement. Finn, Marceline and the rest are more equipped to actually investigate and acquire the artifacts what with all the demons and shit out there, and with resources like the Enchiridion or Wizards out there most artifacts are probably known and understood better than his research capabilities could manage. Augmenting his skills in either field would require some kind of assistance or going mad/sad with magic again.
I want Simon to become a badass who just knows all there is to know about magic without actually being magic himself. He just carries a bag of magical crap and uses it when needed. Maybe even be able to recall or at least partially recollect his memories as Ice King. 1000 years on Ooo has to be worth something
Finn being into femdom is pretty much canon isn't it? His wet dream is literally Flame Princess burning him. He even says pain is just "hickies from the universe". He probably asks Huntress Wizard to abuse him every night, lucky guy
Their whole dynamic is geralt and yennifer. Won't settle down but their paths will cross repeatedly due to the lives they live. Also hard meat don't get eat.
Won’t settle down, meaning Huntress left him to go fuck other guys whenever she pleases including the Spirit of the Forest.
That’s what not being tied down means. Same with her creator and writer specifying that they’d split up after that ep, as far as every other man that fucked HW is concerned she is single and ready to mingle
>no counterargument
It’s fine if you wanna cope but being unable to argue against my facts is just your subconsciously admitting I am right
She didn’t wanna be “tied down or committed” to Finn and wanted to be wild and free. Meaning she’s being wild and free to fuck others like the literal end of the ep when he helped her to get fucked by Forest Spirit
Their whole dynamic is geralt and yennifer. Won't settle down but their paths will cross repeatedly due to the lives they live. Also hard meat don't get eat.
Jesse, the "creator" of HW and writer of flute spell. His intentions were pretty clear.
Who said they ever split up on the first place? Side note which one of Jake's pups would be most likely to refer to Finn as Uncle Finn? Ml
It's fine if you want to type out cuck fantasies like that. Just know it's a shitpost to everyone else
>no counterargument
It’s fine if you wanna cope but being unable to argue against my facts is just your subconsciously admitting I am right
She didn’t wanna be “tied down or committed” to Finn and wanted to be wild and free. Meaning she’s being wild and free to fuck others like the literal end of the ep when he helped her to get fucked by Forest Spirit
>Finn has a cool magic adventure waifu he can fight alongside/bone down whenever he feels like it instead of being tied into a pointless domestic arrangement >this is somehow a bad thing
2 months ago
Anonymous
You're the only one who comes across as cucked here
cope
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, you are coping. We can tell.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>instead of being tied into a pointless domestic arrangement
The pointless domestic arrangement is there for a reason: to pair you together in loyalty.
Instead Finn paired Huntress Wizard with the Forest Spirit and gave the thumbs up while she fucked and sucked his fat bastard cock and swallowed Forest Spirit’s fat bastard cum, then she told him “awwww sorry buuuut…I just don’t wanna be tied down to you. I think I should be free to go fuck—I mean see other guys whenever I like. Later fag.”
So now thanks to Finn cucking out and buying her shit about how she doesn’t need to love him and doesn’t want to be tued down to him, she’s out there getting fucked and cummed-inside by every ugly smelly bastard in Ooo while Finn went back to being the faggy loser who actually hot women like Pb and Marceline will always reject because he’s just a little beta cuckold.
Finn is the Will Smith of Ooo.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Based and Correct
“Ummm I just don’t think I’m emotionally ready for a committed relationship yet and also I wanna keep riding the cock carousel for 20 more years until I’m ready to settle for a beta like you” - Huntress Bicycle
2 months ago
Anonymous
Huntress Wizard is canonically used goods and they split up because she wanted to become even MORE used goods first
>AI slop spam
2 months ago
Anonymous
Based and Correct
“Ummm I just don’t think I’m emotionally ready for a committed relationship yet and also I wanna keep riding the cock carousel for 20 more years until I’m ready to settle for a beta like you” - Huntress Bicycle
Huntress Wizard is canonically used goods and they split up because she wanted to become even MORE used goods first
Truly Finn died the way he lived: a betacuck whose crush fucks other men
Their whole dynamic is geralt and yennifer. Won't settle down but their paths will cross repeatedly due to the lives they live. Also hard meat don't get eat.
>Also hard meat don't get eat.
But exceptional beasts like them cannot fall in love.
I wonder if the humans are completely killed off in the future or if they just fucked off back to the islands once the Rainicorn-Dogs formed their kingdom
The Human Candy city looks abandoned but we know the Candy people are safe and stored within the Prizeball Guardians but no humans were seen so they might actually be extinct for real this time, all thanks to Finn's great nephew.
"High Strangeness" left a clue about the plans to rebuild the kingdom in a distant planet. It never happens because PB gets captured all the time by ice thing
Reasonably safe if I lived in the Candy Kingdom(do they even let outsiders live there?). I’d wanna dick around in all the prewar ruins though looking for artifacts and shit.
I can shoot really well and have some minor experience in non-lethal fights(meaning I'm more experienced than 80 percent of the male population), so if I have a ray gun or an actual gun I might end up okay in general.
It seems the candy kingdom would be one of the safer places to be, outside of the human civilization which itself would probably be my best bet come to think of it.
Discounting them, the candy kingdom is the best option for safety and reasonable medical care if I'm able to get PB to give even half of a shit to use her mega science to cure any ailments or injuries that arise.
The idea of successful adventures that don't lead to me being injured or killed is appealing, but I don't think I would feel much purpose in that world aside from that.
Here in the real world I have goals and achievements I want to aim for, but what future is there in Ooo for a human other than a successful adventurer or a corpse?
Candy Kingdom still feels like a terrible choice when picking a location to settle in Ooo because of the amount of dangerous events or attacks that happen there.
The fact that the world doesn't blow up and there don't seem to be many other F&J tier adventurers around to stop it from doing so if everywhere was as full of bullshit as the Candy Kingdom
The other options we've been shown were small villages (often literally small), small kingdoms both literal and figurative which aren't particularly safe in location or defenses, and places that are downright dangerous like the bandit city or the hyooman tribe settlement. One exception is the Kingdom of Nuts I suppose but that place lacks all the benefits of the Candy Kingdom.
There's the Breakfast Kingdom that appears organized and well defended but it's small and in the shitty badlands. Fire Kingdom's both shitty and unsafe. Wizard City is alright-ish, especially if you're a wizard yourself, but even then it seems like a pretty dangerous place.
I can shoot really well and have some minor experience in non-lethal fights(meaning I'm more experienced than 80 percent of the male population), so if I have a ray gun or an actual gun I might end up okay in general.
It seems the candy kingdom would be one of the safer places to be, outside of the human civilization which itself would probably be my best bet come to think of it.
Discounting them, the candy kingdom is the best option for safety and reasonable medical care if I'm able to get PB to give even half of a shit to use her mega science to cure any ailments or injuries that arise.
The idea of successful adventures that don't lead to me being injured or killed is appealing, but I don't think I would feel much purpose in that world aside from that.
Here in the real world I have goals and achievements I want to aim for, but what future is there in Ooo for a human other than a successful adventurer or a corpse?
yeah, not a fan of that. I still hope the short turns out good.
Isn't this the storyboard artist who was so hung up about Crossover, specifically how it barely explained how exactly the Farmworld universe still existed after Jake's wish that he tried to add in more scenes of Prismo giving exposition but it still got cut?
Yes. Him and Alden sneakily tried to make it a double episode but had to cut it down in the end. His explanation ended up being "retconned" with Fionna and Cake anyway, so it was for the best they didn't explain too much.
this should have been in the episode, i've been trying to explain to people in these threads that this is how it works and Finn is still the original Finn for weeks
In a way, they're both the "original finn." It's sorta like a split timeline. One where Finn became Farmworld Finn, and one where Jake prevented Finn from becoming farmworld Finn.
Can you explain it Anon, reading that chicken scratch is proving annoying.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Farmworld Finn was created separately when Finn made his wish. Finn’s consciousness, but not his memories or personality, were then transferred into FW Finn’s brain. When Jake made his wish, though, original Finn’s consciousness was pulled back to inhabit its original body that was now in use again. FW Finn kept existing though because, again, he was an entity independent of Finn
This is such a stupid question because he doesn't have any of the memories, the backstory, or anything that's even close to our Finn, he specifically has a different life with different memories and and a different history, he is not the original Finn.
But it's technically where S1-S4 Finn ended up in after he made his wish to Prismo. S5-beyond Finn was created as part of Jake's wish. Like if Farmworld Finn wasn't the original then where did Jerry Lich come from if that wasn't the same Lich from seasons two to four?
2 months ago
Anonymous
This is just being dense on purpose anon, I'm sure you can clearly tell the difference between the Finns. >where did Jerry Lich come from if that wasn't the same Lich from seasons two to four?
Same as Farmworld Finn, it's from a wish-altered reality, the fact that reality is altered to begin with should tell you that in an existential level, these characters are fundamentally different, SPECIALLY Farmworld Finn who has a completely different backstory.
Notice how Jake's wish seemingly never creates a new reality, Prismo just refers to it as the same one, and that all that stuff witht the Lich simple didn't happen, I think it's obvious which reality takes priority.
Seriously, this fucking "original Finn" argument is as stupid as people saying Sword Finn is the original Finn, when we know for a fact that the Finn that didn't become a sword was the older one, not the one from the past, it just feels like trying to make things more tragic for the sake of it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
But Fionna and Cake reveals Prismo basically creates a new universe for every reality-altering wish and the wisher gets transported into that new universe, getting slotted into their role there. The Lich's dead universe wasn't erased by Finn or Jake's wishes, it was still there and so was The Lich who made that wish. The Lich who deactivated in Prismo's time room was leftover and stranded there from Jake's wish to change how the past played out.
Farmworld Finn may live in a completely different world and have a different backstory but that's still the original Finn whose self was just altered to fit into that new reality.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>still the original Finn whose self was just altered to fit into that new reality.
Something something Ship of Theseus, if it's absolutely nothing like the original Finn, is it the original Finn? I'd say no, but you're free to think otherwise I guess.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Lich's dead universe wasn't erased by Finn or Jake's wishes
Because if the Lich never wished to kill everyone Jake would have never made his wish. The Lich's wish NEEDS to happen no matter what. So Prismo made a new universe for Lich so that way both wishes (Lich's original wish and Jake's wish Lich's wish altered wish) can be true SIMULTANEOUSLY.
2 months ago
Anonymous
But Fionna and Cake reveals Prismo basically creates a new universe for every reality-altering wish and the wisher gets transported into that new universe, getting slotted into their role there. The Lich's dead universe wasn't erased by Finn or Jake's wishes, it was still there and so was The Lich who made that wish. The Lich who deactivated in Prismo's time room was leftover and stranded there from Jake's wish to change how the past played out.
Farmworld Finn may live in a completely different world and have a different backstory but that's still the original Finn whose self was just altered to fit into that new reality.
This semantics argument is pointless anyways because in Crossover Finn says that he suddenly got better at the flute after the events of that three parter. Meaning that his soul temporarily inhabited Farmworld Finn but was pulled back retroactively after Jake’s wish
>Extremely intelligent in both magic and battle knowledge despite not being magical >could utilize specialized tools to leech off magic from other magical creatures and harm them in the process >said magical energy could be used to lopen dimensional gates, summon an elder god and shit
I would like to see Simon became legitimately good at the entire magical energy leeching shit in season two.So many potential >Maybe he could steal/copy abilities from other creatures? >Maybe he could learn more GOLB magic or even command other elder gods like prismo and the owl? >Maybe he could develop more tools to help him do this better? >Maybe he could even develop some magical ability due to being saturated with magical energy constantly?
Simon's arc haven't ended yet.I need to see him became some top tier adventurer like in the manga.
We don't know. Could be he did died of natural causes, or that he's immortal via Betty's wish (Though him having wrinkles and a silver streak is a sign of aging, or stress).
F&C put in the interesting suggestion that Shermy and Beth might actually be the reincarnations of Simon and Betty, which is interesting to think about even if it's way more likely that they're Finn and Jake's reincarnations.
Finn didn’t see much of anyone in the deadworlds, he immediately went to find Jake and then immediately fucked off to reincarnate. It’s unclear if he even saw Jermaine
Man, Adventure Time lore got weird. I stopped paying attention around when Finn got friendzoned by PB and started chasing Flame Princess. Half the time I don't know what any of you are talking about. I guess in a way I'm glad.
I don't care, I stopped paying attention.
For me Adventure Time exists in a bubble and it's only allowed to escape that bubble if it gives me more joy than if it didn't escape at all.
Adventure Time taught me to practice clean sanitised narrative controls.
It's fine. That's pretty much what I do with ATLA. At the end of the day, canon is just what someone made up. You don't have to care about it. All of AT is canon to me, but if you wanna ignore parts of it then more power to you.
Adventure Time was always weird and strangely enough a lot of lore actually was setup early on, albeit unintentionally, the writers used a lot of throwaway details from the early seasons to extrapolate and build on several storylines.
Could a Shermy and Beth series work? How would you do it?
For me, it's obvious it's going to have to take the serialized story route like Fionna and Cake to differentiate itself from how episodic Adventure Time was. Maybe each season deals with a new storyline.
But the biggest dilemma will be balancing it as its own thing and as a sequel series to AT. Muto was right in that the entry barrier to the franchise is daunting at this point with how many AT episodes and spinoffs are there but at the same time people will be mainly watching a Shermy and Beth show to see what has become of Ooo and other characters like PB and Marceline.
Also get an actual animation studio like Mercury Filmworks to do the animation this time with fluid movements, AT could look beautiful with the visuals but the general flatness and stiffness drag it down.
No, I would like it better if Shermy and Beth remained a mystery of the far future.
Most characters in the show are already dead by this point, and anything related to PB and Marceline would be too upsetting to please fans. So making an entire show from zero, without most of the characters people loved from the original series in an OOO that's less magical and more dystopian doesn't sound very good.
Distant Lands and F&C already proved both CN and Adam Muto would rather use the old characters people love than make new ones.
>I think Muto would rather make a whole new show at this point
If he did, he wouldn´t have made an entire show based on three old characters, alongside multiverse variants of characters who already existed
>I think Muto would rather make a whole new show at this point
If he did, he wouldn´t have made an entire show based on three old characters, alongside multiverse variants of characters who already existed
He actually talked about being interested in making something new in an interview but that it was impossible in the current landscape that prioritizes established IPs over original ones, AT has bigger pull because of its status as a old and popular CN IP.
>Distant Lands and F&C already proved both CN and Adam Muto would rather use the old characters people love than make new ones.
Distant Lands had a lot of new characters, especially BMO and Wizard City.
I mean there's a lot of potential there.
Will the fedora tipping atheist mad scientist obsessed with her immortality and her people's continuance start looking in darker madder recesses, when she can't science her way out of competent and galactic threats and the crushing wheel of time?
What will become of the floating teen demon corpse marinated in dark power, who already wanted to be free of the darkness and was ready to die 1000 years prior? Does she still hold on to humanity after all this time?
Will they still have good in their hearts for the small, temporary people? Will Finnsword maybe have them remember those bright inspiring times he met them in the grasslands?
Will they have the personality of sexy ancient foxy witches? Will the show's rating go further up, allowing them to explicitly acknowledge or even tastefully show that they're fucking?
A season one plot could be about Shermy and Beth being tasked by Marceline, whose like a mentor hero figure to them, to help find then rescue PB, who had traveled to the Ice Thingdom to attempt to steal the remaining the gems from Gunter so that she could finally overthrow Gibbon.
Gibbon and his tyranny over Ooo could be the main overarching plot of a Shermy and Beth show.
If it's exactly 1000 years in the future, either a catalyst comet event JUST happened or they're due for one very soon. Either way you could explore that
Honestly?
Finn being the last white blue-eyed blonde male human child in the midst of the apocalypse is what made the series work as well as it did.
And before you cry about "/pol/" or some shit, that deal about him being "human" and a "child" are the most important parts. Being conventionally goodlooking just helps.
Lose those, you lose the plot.
Yeah that's the song that gets stuck in my head the most too >if there was some amazing force outside of time, to take us back to where we were
What a simple line that sucker punches that pit of the heart that misses something or someone in the past
also I like how with the "little pictures" part it's Rebecca referencing their storyboards they can look back on
I've been thinking lately about the Lich as a character. I noticed the Lich never refers to a charter by a name, only by a role. Finn he calls "child", Simon he calls "ice wizard'. It reminds me of the episode of Over the Garden Wall where the people in the tavern only know others in terms of their role. He doesn't interact with Prismo (a cosmic entity) the way other cosmic entities do (where they interact as equals), he clearly sees the wishmaster as nothing more than function. Obviously this is part of character to have some distance and look down on others but I think it speaks to his way of seeing the world. Kinda weird now that I think about it when he actually does talk to other characters at all, as during his stay in the time room he saw absolutely no reason to interact, as if others weren't even there. The Lich is not all powerful but he does seem to be all knowing, possessing something akin to complete knowledge regardless of how and when he appears to spawn in a world, and of course infinitely patient. Like his infinite knowledge his desire to eradicate all life seems to be an inborn part of him at the moment of genesis as it has no obvious source.
About his "role" or "purpose". I think everyone agrees the Lich does not represent "death" in the universe/multiverse. we've already met Life and Death and they are presented as two "opposite" yet connected roles in the balance of a self perpetuating cycle of existence. In one of his speeches he states that "The mortal world doubts and questions, I know exactly what I am". He's referred to himself as "The ceaseless wheel", "The End", "The last scholar of Golb".
About his history: The Lich tells about an era of chaos preceeding the world seen in the show. He states "before there was time, before there was nothing, there were monsters". Did he come from this era? The calls the prisoners from the citadel "Titans". Why were these entities imprisoned there? Side note: in greek myth the Titans were the previous gods before being overthrown by the olympians (Zeus and co.) and imprisoned in Tartarus. Are these some of the "monsters" previously mentioned?
About his motivations. The Lich's wish to prismo was for the extinction of all life, and in Fionna and Cake we get to see the result. What was left was not nothing as there was still BMO and a planet and such. Even though Prismo's wishes often come with an ironic twist we see that he got what he intended with his wish. This is what he tried to achieve in "Together Again" where his actions result in the collapse of the cycle and structure of the dead worlds and rebirth cycle.
I don't think the show has shown yet why he thinks eradicating all life would please Golb, and why he wants to please Golb, and it almost seems like he'd never even met Golb until the end of Fionna and Cake.
Side note: In this multiverse, at least in our Ooo there is a literal "formula" for creating life (How PB created the candy people and the Lemongrabs created the lemon people). Wonder if that relates to what life "is" in this multiverse and what that means to eradicate it.
anyway my conclusion is that he just sees other characters as static 1-dimensional things with a single purpose or function in the universe. He thought his purpose was to extinguish all "life", perhaps because "life" causes change and he can't seem to handle that? Perhaps it was part of a new order that overtook the old chaos and he was unable to cope? Perhaps he and the Titans were incompatible with the new order? In the end he lost what he thought was his purpose and without a purpose Golb ended his existence. Not sure what he was expecting really, though it's interesting to see such an alien character have something akin to religious zealotry as a motivation. Wonder if we'll ever get to see more of his past or the era of monsters?
About his "role" or "purpose". I think everyone agrees the Lich does not represent "death" in the universe/multiverse. we've already met Life and Death and they are presented as two "opposite" yet connected roles in the balance of a self perpetuating cycle of existence. In one of his speeches he states that "The mortal world doubts and questions, I know exactly what I am". He's referred to himself as "The ceaseless wheel", "The End", "The last scholar of Golb".
About his history: The Lich tells about an era of chaos preceeding the world seen in the show. He states "before there was time, before there was nothing, there were monsters". Did he come from this era? The calls the prisoners from the citadel "Titans". Why were these entities imprisoned there? Side note: in greek myth the Titans were the previous gods before being overthrown by the olympians (Zeus and co.) and imprisoned in Tartarus. Are these some of the "monsters" previously mentioned?
About his motivations. The Lich's wish to prismo was for the extinction of all life, and in Fionna and Cake we get to see the result. What was left was not nothing as there was still BMO and a planet and such. Even though Prismo's wishes often come with an ironic twist we see that he got what he intended with his wish. This is what he tried to achieve in "Together Again" where his actions result in the collapse of the cycle and structure of the dead worlds and rebirth cycle.
I don't think the show has shown yet why he thinks eradicating all life would please Golb, and why he wants to please Golb, and it almost seems like he'd never even met Golb until the end of Fionna and Cake.
Side note: In this multiverse, at least in our Ooo there is a literal "formula" for creating life (How PB created the candy people and the Lemongrabs created the lemon people). Wonder if that relates to what life "is" in this multiverse and what that means to eradicate it.
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anyway my conclusion is that he just sees other characters as static 1-dimensional things with a single purpose or function in the universe. He thought his purpose was to extinguish all "life", perhaps because "life" causes change and he can't seem to handle that? Perhaps it was part of a new order that overtook the old chaos and he was unable to cope? Perhaps he and the Titans were incompatible with the new order? In the end he lost what he thought was his purpose and without a purpose Golb ended his existence. Not sure what he was expecting really, though it's interesting to see such an alien character have something akin to religious zealotry as a motivation. Wonder if we'll ever get to see more of his past or the era of monsters?
Congrats anon, you've given more thought to the Lich than the "writers" gave to ANYTHING in the show
it's more fun than putting on a fake persona to look for a job you don't want because you need money to live in a hellscape of a world you wish you'd never been born into
Why? Marceline got definitely less and less competent as the show went on. Almost all she did was lose even though she was introduced as someone extremely powerful. Bubblegum got turned into a girlboss but that's a completely different story.
What i can't get over is how Marceline never seem to be thrill with encounter a human. An actual human being. You think she would feel ecstatic to find one in land of Ooo. Let alone be nicer to Finn cuz he's a human kid.
She probably was thrilled in her own way, which is why she kept hanging out with Finn and messing with him. She had become jaded and cynical over hundreds of years without humans, and meeting Finn again allowed her to regain some of her compassion back.
>Olson: Jeremy was 12 when we started, I was 17, so I was kind of in this weird in-between state of “Do I hang out with the adults, do I hang out with the kids?” We became really really close and I kind of looked after him like an older sister. And Marceline and Finn’s characters also sort of have that weird bond. Fans would ask, “Do Marceline and Finn ever date?” Absolutely not, that’s not gonna happen, ever ever ever ever.
Ironic coming from someone who voiced Vanessa Doofenshmirtz
>Carring about VAs opinions in the first place >The same VA that called bubbline maniacs weirdos but after a while bend the knee and learnt to wear sackcloth and ashes like a good little girl >The same VA that auditioned for bubblegum before so had to know the premise from the beggining >From the interview that came after the finale and after the character got permanently lesbofied >And whose character still got stuck in agegap relationship anyway
And Finn wasn't even really into her either lmao
That episode is basically the anti Finnceline episode.
Yeah and Amity tried to kill Luz when they first met, shame some storyboarder wanted to pair them together so they retconned in that they actually like each other
Like Amity and Luz would've, if some storyboarder managed to successfully push Luz x Hunter into the show
2 months ago
Anonymous
>if things were different things would be different
Glad you worked that out, retard-kun.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, and we're talking about the possibility of Finnceline at one point in time, it wasn't out of the question just because of Go With Me
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but any ship is possible by that logic, which is retarded an unhelpful.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Just like bubbline, the giant crackship that came out of Sugar's and Muto's asses lmao. Bitches only like it for aesthetics and "representation". There's nothing more to it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care about Bubbline, Finn and Marcy just didn't have romantic feelings for each other. They had a brother/sister like relationship.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, we know Marceline was actually an intended pairing at one point in time due to the pitch bible, we don't know if that plan was discarded during the first two seasons, or only in S3 after WWM. It's unlike TOH where Amity and Luz were intended for each other from the very first pitch and were never even considered as pairings for anyone else.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The Pitch Bible isn't canon, Penn had an initial idea of an Archie comics rip off that they ditched by the time they actually made the show. >we don't know if that plan was discarded during the first two seasons
It very obviously was, because the pitch had Marcy and PB frequently competing with each other for Finn's affections Betty and Veronica style. But in the first two seasons Marcy and PB interact literally just once, where they just say an awkward hello to each other. If they were still following the pitch bible before season 3 then they actually would have followed it and included the dynamic they described in it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
We're not talking about canon, we're talking about what the crew was possibly still considering at a certain point in time, like how we know for a fact Bubbline wasn't something they were considering until S3.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I know, but its clear that the pitch bible wasn't influencing their decisions in regard to Finn/PB/Marcy's dynamic because it just wasn't present in the first two seasons of the show.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I still don't think that's evidence enough to say it was completely dismissed before the show started, after all Amphibia only had two episodes in its S1 that actually explored the core drama+lore idea behind the show. The fact AT aged down PB to pair her with Finn in the S2 finale could mean the age gap relationship implications with the two of them were getting pushback from executives/S&P so they Betty and Veronica dynamic had to be pushed to the background just like Bubbline eventually was. Also they don't have to interact with each other to be competing for Finn's attention.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>amphibia
The core was Sprig and Anne’s friendship, which was very present. The lore stuff is comparable to AT’s Lich which also appeared at the end of the second season. > Also they don't have to interact with each other to be competing for Finn's attention.
Except they do, as described in the pitch. You did read it right? But even if we say they kept the love rivalry but removed interacting with each other for some reason, the two of them still weren’t competing for his affections. Finn had one sided love for PB that she sometimes rewarded to be nice to him, and the only time Finn and Marcy were in a romantic context was the episode establishing they both aren’t into beach other like that. On no level was the romantic rivalry outlined in the pitch present in the show.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>It very obviously was, because the pitch had Marcy and PB frequently competing with each other for Finn's affections Betty and Veronica style.
Did it? I recall Pendelton Ward saying their Betty and Veronica dynamic was in the context of them being best frenemies, not because they wanted to screw Finn. Ward said that Marceline was never intended to be a love interest for Finn.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Ward said that Marceline was never intended to be a love interest for Finn.
Do you have a source
2 months ago
Anonymous
From back in the ancient days when the crew basically answered any question people asked them on the internet
https://archive.md/20130208234830/http://vyou.com/pendletonward
2 months ago
Anonymous
I can't see anything in the link
2 months ago
Anonymous
It finally died? Worked for me a few yesrs ago.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's stuck like this but I'll take your word for it
Like Amity and Luz would've, if some storyboarder managed to successfully push Luz x Hunter into the show
This is the weirdest bait I've ever seen when it's common knowledge that Dana went in with the intention of Lumity from the start
2/10 since it got a reply from me, I guess
>Carring about VAs opinions in the first place >The same VA that called bubbline maniacs weirdos but after a while bend the knee and learnt to wear sackcloth and ashes like a good little girl >The same VA that auditioned for bubblegum before so had to know the premise from the beggining >From the interview that came after the finale and after the character got permanently lesbofied >And whose character still got stuck in agegap relationship anyway
>Pen specifically requested the voice of Vanessa the cradle robber for PB
How can anyone deny Fubblegum was his endgame
>Carring about VAs opinions in the first place >The same VA that called bubbline maniacs weirdos but after a while bend the knee and learnt to wear sackcloth and ashes like a good little girl >The same VA that auditioned for bubblegum before so had to know the premise from the beggining >From the interview that came after the finale and after the character got permanently lesbofied >And whose character still got stuck in agegap relationship anyway
When you fucking realize the age gap between Simon and Marcy is only quarter compered to her and PB.
>that mysterious perpetually hoodied kid in high school nobody could manage to talk to >except the spazziest and most persistent blonde >after some time you see her somewhere in the background during every crazy shit he does >they're always discussing hunting trips
>noooo I'm not jealous, I'm just here to explain to Finn why it's dangerous for him and FP to be together >also I happened to changed into a the sluttiest dress I own which I've never been seen in before
Seriously, why did she need to show Finn so much leg for this "talk"?
She almost always wears her long dress when going to Finn and Jake's place but for some reason decides to slut it up for this talk (but she's totally not jealous)
Okay but what's with the shorter skirt? We've literally never seen her wear something like that before especially since she put it one JUST for this
She's 100% aware of her sex appeal and has used it to get what she wants for hundreds of years. If showing a bit of leg is what it takes to get a teenage boy's attention in order to save the world then she's gonna slut it up.
this; but more than being jealous, the was afraid of losing her obedient, hypercompetent little soldier.
This was my conclusion too but I wanted someone else to say it first
Do you think if Finn's ultimatum was that he would only stop seeing Flame Princess if Bubblegum became his gf, would PB accept? Would she take one for the team or would she just expect everyone but her to give. Also the idea of PB using her body to manipulate Finn into doing what she wants because she knows he's attracted to her is pretty interesting
As a Sugar episode after What Was Missing, her "responsibility demands sacrifice" speech was definitely projecting what she's coped about with Marceline. Can't kiss who you want because too much distraction leads to destruction.
But maybe she thought she could share the pain of duty with Finn? Or maybe she's a typical person that hates to lose the loving adoration of someone's oneitis?
That's covered in my second sentence >fuck it, I have you at least, you understand now right? so stay with me >goddamnit I'm hotter than that fire bitch look at THESE
In the Together Again special, F+J try to contact PB by chanting princess princess princess or something close to that anyway, then we cut to a shot of Peppermint Butler dusting a statue of PB while he wears what looks like a princess tiara, afterwhich he talks to F+J and the two don't mention that they were calling for PB.
So.. is PB that statue? Is Pepbut an interim princess in her stead? Is she dead? What's going on there.
The statue that pepbuts is dusting looks awfully mystical and magical. Makes me wonder if it's her corpse, and pepbuts tried to do something to revive it.
PB = Peppermint Butler. He's the princess now
I don't think I like that. This is all happening just after Finn dies, right? Finn's lived a life of hard adventure, even if he lived crazy long considering that, and died at the age of 100, that's very little time between the end of the AT cartoon and the point at which she's supposedly dead or otherwise fled her responsibilities as ruler.
She probably just wanted to live a life with Marcy and she's already been ruling the kingdom for hundreds of years, so it isn't like its too early for her to retire or anything.
It was just a funny bait and switch. >oh they're calling PB, I wonder what bubblegum is doing at this time frame >oh, it's Peppermint Butler. "PB", oh I get it
>The statue that pepbuts is dusting looks awfully mystical and magical. Makes me wonder if it's her corpse, and pepbuts tried to do something to revive it
There's a theory that PB hardened and calcified like old gum, basically hibernating so Peppermint Butler is ruling in her stead until she awakens again.
The running theory seems to be that PepBut (PB) became princess when she "retired" (bs, we know she's gonna continue underground machinations for her kingdom's continuance for millenia). Princess is a female biased but gender neutral rank in Ooo.
And this suggests that this change happened while Jake was still alive, since there was no surprise from either of them. So probably by Obsidian when she moves into Marcy's house, she's relinquished her day-to-day duties.
there are mystic symbols and shit all over the outside of the candy kingdom in that shot too. he took over, Bubblegum is either chilling with Marcy or she's in space checking in on her new space candy kingdoms for an extended period of time
Honestly in this particular moment she was just being an autist who saw a friend going through a similar problem she did. She forgot or got swept away in the effect she had on him in favor of "holy shit, someone who is going through what I went through; the sickening drop of something hot you want to hold so bad. Makes me wanna kiss him, us responsible dutiful folks who only want to do what's right can only understand each other..."
I kinda don't like that they made Choos Goose sorta evil and hell-bound. I don't remember him being quite so figuratively israeli before. He's not exactly a favorite of mine or anything like that, he just seemed like a vaguely pleasant character and him being a bad guy doesn't really please me.
I'm just realizing how much candy cane seems to be associated closely with PB >Pep, her butler, her tank, her closest thing to family probably even more than Neddy >the inside pattern on her "come along with me" cape >pic related >there was some other official work with a peppermint/candy cane pattern behind her but I forgot >also symbolic of her connection with Ice king/winter king etc by christmas candy >it's either ice or candy magic that rules Ooo, christmas reigns eternal
After gum, it seems candy cane and root beer are her most natural candy
I also explains why Root Beer Guy was the most interesting/human candy person. She can shoot root beer from her palms, it's a part of her she understands as well
Or maybe I was just strangely charmed with Root Beer Guy and his comics when I was younger
It might also explain why peppermint butler is more intelligent/stable than her other creations. She inherently understands peppermint better.
The first candy elemental and chatsberry also have candy cane in their design. I think you're right.
I'm just realizing how much candy cane seems to be associated closely with PB >Pep, her butler, her tank, her closest thing to family probably even more than Neddy >the inside pattern on her "come along with me" cape >pic related >there was some other official work with a peppermint/candy cane pattern behind her but I forgot >also symbolic of her connection with Ice king/winter king etc by christmas candy >it's either ice or candy magic that rules Ooo, christmas reigns eternal
After gum, it seems candy cane and root beer are her most natural candy
candy people's intelligence isn't necessarily determined by their creation, Root Beer Guy was made just like any other candy person. And so was the artsy Banana Guard guy. PB is just smarter out of necessity because he's the Princess's right hand man
>PB is just smarter out of necessity because he's the Princess's right hand man
Ok, but why would PB choose to create her right hand man out of peppermint candy, specifically? I think she was drawing unknowingly from her past lives as a candy elemental, who seem to have affinity for peppermint candy also.
I don't think Jake should get murdered, I think he should just die of natural causes and it plays out like the Buffy episode about the mom where Finn is confronted by mundane hard reality and he has no idea what to do or how to properly deal with it.
But I do like Steve Wolfhard's idea that Jake's body grows and fills the giant crater on Earth
I figure it would give them about 5-10 years of sexy careless fun times before Finn decides he has to settle down with a mortal to ensure his immortal legacy
Yeah.. my imagining on a threesome is that the romantic feelings from Finn have cooled, so it's more of a chill "friends with benefits" adventure situation from which he is able to move on from when he develops a deep relationship with another.
But feelings ain't that easy. If he and they get very romantically attached... I guess they'd go through through the soul rending throes of aging and death and loss together
Sex without romantic affection and love is okay I guess, but we should each of us strive for more I think.
2 months ago
Anonymous
If he's to strive for more, the path is HW
Romantic affection and love is still possible in such a situation, it will just always be peeled back by their feelings for another.
The way I see a bubbline/Finn throuple is PB and Marcy agreeing that they love Finn and also think he's growing to be pretty hot, so why not have some fun with him.
BUu yes. That's not real romance, it's just fun and friendship and exploration.
Finn's college lesbian years.
Oh excuse me anon, I was looking for the other side of his neck there.
Would his skin change color and become paler? I know Marcy was always that undead-ish pale, but all the other vampires seem pale too and I'm pretty sure most of them were humans at one point. The low-level ones that were easily dispatched anyway.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Finn's lawful good alignment would purify him of the downsides such as fatal sensitivity to light and the skin complexion thing
2 months ago
Anonymous
You forget he stole something in Thief City once, his soul is eternally tarnished.
True except Finn's lack of immortality. 80 years is a long time even if you live a long ass time, but it's not long enough for those two.
They'd probably just give him a forum of immortality later, though probably after he becomes a DILF because Marcy and PB seem like the kinds of girls who'd be into that kind of stuff.
Is it really? It amounts to >The joke is sex! They both suddenly have the same personality because they want to sex him!
Like, it's a funny comic mostly for buff Finn's goofy smiling face but it isn't exactly compelling.
I think the funniest part is that the image that anon posted (
>DILF Finn
) is actually a mashup of the joke and real version of the comic.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I also got this one. Not sure if it's the "original" one but here you go!
>More 'fun and interesting' my ass.
Who are you kidding.
We al saw how the actual series turned out.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and it's still ultimately better than a cheap wish fulfilment joke.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Well the good news is that there's not many people left that care about this series enough to argue with you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think many people beyond Cinemaphile if at all care that much whether Finn got a wife or not.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure more people care about Bubbline than have ever cared about any Finn relationships
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm pretty sure more people care about Bubbline
Oh for sure.
But I'm also sure most people gave up on the show entirely from terrible writing before they could care about the relationships to begin with.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Did they even "give up" though? Adventure Time is remembered fondly internet. Fionna and Cake proved there is still an audience for more AT content.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Well shoot. When you put it that way, I think you've got a point. Adventure Time is still remembered fondly. Hell, it's probably more popular than it's ever been, now that I think about it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's not as popular as it was during its peak, but that was never going to last. Considering its age, AT's fanbase still has remarkable vitality.
Well shoot. When you put it that way, I think you've got a point. Adventure Time is still remembered fondly. Hell, it's probably more popular than it's ever been, now that I think about it.
>Adventure Time is still remembered fondly
Yes? Cinemaphile is an echo chamber. These executives who greenlight AT spinoffs aren't complete retards, they wouldn't do it if they didn't see value in the IP.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>These executives who greenlight AT spinoffs aren't complete retards
They work in cable in an era of free digital media.
I guarantee. They're complete retards.
2 months ago
Anonymous
They work in streaming. Max ordered Distant Lands and Fionna and Cake.
Is it really? It amounts to >The joke is sex! They both suddenly have the same personality because they want to sex him!
Like, it's a funny comic mostly for buff Finn's goofy smiling face but it isn't exactly compelling.
>here's how Finn can still get with Bubblegum/Marceline
He has HW. If you want to self-insert, imagine yourself getting gagged and pegged in the forest.
>He has HW. If you want to self-insert, imagine yourself getting gagged and pegged in the forest.
I can't enjoy her anymore after finding out her current voice actress is israeli
>And then she started on about how she had to cut off the river source along with constantly lobbing magic arrows. She's gone wacko crazy PB >Yeah, a camp would be much more efficient
>anon seething and crying and shitting himself that people think it’d be hot to have a threesome with PB and Marceline and that Finn would probably be down for it
Calm down they’re just drawings lil bro
They have good chemistry. It's funny how they simultaneously fanserviced HWxFinn fags and didn't confirm anything with mainline Finn and HW. They got to have their cake and eat it too.
Just watched the episode of F&C with Big D, was pretty neat to see him and his gang again, but I felt like they didn't quiiiite capture the feeling of his character that the original series did.
Speaking of Fionna and Cake, what do you guys think of that opening? There's a certain thrilling feeling of movement in it that reminds me just a bit of the Venture Bros opening. The music certainly adds to that.
>"hood" discussion >what if Finn was buff and hot and all the girls wanted to fuck m- I mean him?
Don't be a Finncel if you don't want to get called on it
If this was a show like Steven universe, his arc would be completely over here and he'd magically be okay or some shit idk I'm drunk fuck Rebecca and her weird child porn art
I think it's likely, look how small that caravan that he showed up in was.
The Banana Guards were in that RV too. I find it more amusing that Finn just cycles through Jake's kids or grandkids as his new companions whenever he goes out adventuring. Like imagine him trying to take Kim Kil Whan on a qiest woth him
I can see KKW telling Finn he needs to dispatch of monsters who have taken over a house.
And it turns out the monsters were just overdue on rent and KKW wanted Finn to kick them out. >"Aww dangit K-K-Dub, not again!"
>I find it more amusing that Finn just cycles through Jake's kids or grandkids as his new companions whenever he goes out adventuring.
This is a much more fun idea than any of the sequel's we've got so far. It'd satisfy Finnfags and people who want random characters getting the spotlight to tell whatever random story they have in mind. All I really want is adventures with less need to hold back cause its no longer a kids show.
I honestly have no idea why this ship is so popular.
I know there's that one scene where she rushes out of Finn's trailer in one of the last specials, but I see her a lot with young Finn too.
I have to filter Bronwyn out every time I look up Finn porn, there's that much of it.
It's funny to go "Haha Finn's fucking Jake's grand daughter" especially when, at the time, she was the replacement.
As for the porn it's just furries being furries.
I honestly have no idea why this ship is so popular.
I know there's that one scene where she rushes out of Finn's trailer in one of the last specials, but I see her a lot with young Finn too.
I have to filter Bronwyn out every time I look up Finn porn, there's that much of it.
Yes.
what's funny is there's a scene in F&C that confirms Jake was alive during Obsidian, just not around for whatever reason
I'm kinda curious: how did you guys feel about F&C?
I just finished watching it all a couple of days ago, and I thought it was good for what it was, albeit clearly rushed (Ex. Fionna's arc, Marshal X Gary, The ending, etc.).
To add to that, I just watched the entire animated series over the last two week or so, so it's all still pretty fresh in my brain box'.
I can't really recall the last few seasons of AT off the top of my head, so I wouldn't know if F&C is better or not. What I can say though is that it felt pretty reminiscent of S4-S5.
I say over all it was good but it could have benefitted more from having an extra episode.
Marshall and Gary's relationship was nice and steady but it ate half of two episodes with unique worlds and if they just had an episode for themselves it wouldn't have been an issue.
The ending wasn't super rushed but Prismo's solution left a bad taste in my mouth. He could have brought anyone and decided to send in kids and a literal who. That plus the fact Jay and LD pretty much abandoned their old world was super retarded.
>He could have brought anyone and decided to send in kids and a literal who. That plus the fact Jay and LD pretty much abandoned their old world was super retarded.
It felt so random, as if the writers felt like they earned a resolution like that, when they really didn't. If there was a few more episodes, then it would've at least been a decent team-up to see if we did. And if they had to stick to only ten episodes, then I would've rather seen each of the variants of Finn come out to help.
I didn't think it was rushed, just that the last two episodes prioritized the wrong things like Shermy and Beth felt like fanservice and the Scarab fight felt dragged out, not to mention they did not need to bring back the multiverse characters and suddenly just have them live in F&C's world. The ending did not feel as impactful or emotional as it could have been but what we got was fine.
>just that the last two episodes prioritized the wrong things like Shermy and Beth felt like fanservice
I feel it was good getting to see them some more, but I can get how a few rewrites of those scenes could've led to them being shorter, which would've allowed them to prioritize more important shit.
I say over all it was good but it could have benefitted more from having an extra episode.
Marshall and Gary's relationship was nice and steady but it ate half of two episodes with unique worlds and if they just had an episode for themselves it wouldn't have been an issue.
The ending wasn't super rushed but Prismo's solution left a bad taste in my mouth. He could have brought anyone and decided to send in kids and a literal who. That plus the fact Jay and LD pretty much abandoned their old world was super retarded.
I forgot about Jay and LD.
It makes sense for LD to leave her shitty dad behind, but what the fuck Jay, didn't your dad die right in front of you? Who is taking care of your younger siblings in the shitty world you just left behind?
There's no way Farm Finn is dead, at some point we are going to get another glimpse of him and his family, sans Jay.
I didn't think it was rushed, just that the last two episodes prioritized the wrong things like Shermy and Beth felt like fanservice and the Scarab fight felt dragged out, not to mention they did not need to bring back the multiverse characters and suddenly just have them live in F&C's world. The ending did not feel as impactful or emotional as it could have been but what we got was fine.
I didn't mind the Shermy and Beth part, but the "You only picked the [Simon] options" and the consequences of which were very contrived. Like they knew what lesson they wanted Simon to learn and the method of teaching him, but couldn't come up with a good reason as to why his correct choices were actually the bad choices.
I think the point was just that if Simon had allowed Betty to take the reins for once in their decisions, like how it's implied by Casper and Nova that Betty apparently wanted to acquire a different artifact but Simon insisted on getting the crown, then the unfortunate downward spiral of their lives would have never happened in the first place.
But I don't think it condemns Simon, rather that their love was ironically doomed by the qualities that attracted them to each other in the first place (Simon's drive for magical artifacts and Betty's devotion to him). Betty says that they made their choices and that while they could have made better ones, she still doesn't regret her time with Simon even if they both have to ultimately move on at the end.
I think Simon realising his relationship wasn't as rosey as he thought it was made him reconsider the idea that his fuckups made his life worthless. He was unknowingly fucking up a ton before, but that relationship was still beautiful and meaningful. Silver linings and all that jazz.
It was pretty good overall.
Though I'm not sure why obly Cake remained magical in the end, even though other people were having the same magical dreams as Fionna and Cake.
Also, a lot of Gary and Marshall was added. I didn't hate it but it was obvious they were just there for shippers. I'm sure yaoifags were creaming themselves every time they were on screen, but it was a waste of time for me.
Fionna's arc, I don't know what the message was. Are they saying living in a magical world is bad because it's dangerous? Because yeah it is dangerous but if you were born in it, like she originally was, then she would be acclimated to it. Though I think the main message was "being an adult sucks but escaping into fantasy sucks worse." Which gets muddled a bit by the fact that the fantasy she wanted to escape to was how her world was before the magic was lost. I guess thinking about all that is that the message is "things change, move on" which is a fair message but it's also a bit shit to just tell people to accept this new shit reality and to get over the awesome magical one.
And you have a magical cat to remind you of the awesome magic world.
Just, weird messaging all around.
There was magic in the Adventure Time universe before the "modern age" and it didn't return until after the Mushroom War. So they do still live in a verse with alien, Mars people, and the giant skeleton of Conteppi was buried somewhere
It was pretty cool but why is every cartoon and movie about the multiverse nowadays? Yes Adventure Time is old enough to have done it 10+ years ago, but it is cool to have the concept of a fanfiction universe trying to canonize itself in the universe
No you don't understand they're not allowed to have magic in Fionna's world because they wouldn't be themselves even though they were all originally different magical people who had their identities robbed from them. No Ice Queen for you.
Yeah that's the thing with Fionna's whole "I'd rather stay normal so we can all be ourselves and not lose our identities". They already did. Cake even said that her magical self IS her real self. Showrunners were stupid.
Reminder that Fionna is proof that if Princess Bubblegum or Huntress Wizard got BLACKED in front of Finn then Finn would cuck out to her pathetically and simp for her every choice and still do whatever she says like a cuck and say how brave and amazing they are to fuck other men in front of him
Finn is canonically like this now
With the power of love
No, Finn sucked off simon
On a scale of 1 to 10, how powerful is she?
No real idea. She has a lot of fun powers but she's definitly not beating Marceline or the other Elementals with the exception of PB (cause she sucks at using her powers). This seems to be how power levels work in the series from what I can gather:
GOLB>Prismo>Lich=Hunson>Elementals(full powered)>Vampire King>Marceline>Everyone else who I didn't name with a few exceptions
Scarab, his coworkers, and their boss are hard to quantify from what little we know about them. Ice King's magic is OP cause of the crown but he's really stupid so he can get beat by a lot of people.
Hot take: Jake suit with grass sword would solo (duo) everyone until Prismo.
I love the grass sword power concept so much. I loved it in Parasyte, I loved it in Adventure time. The idea of a sentient weapon you are synergistic with that sits on your arm makes me WET.
How do you feel about the Symbiote from Marvel and the Scarab from DC?
Pretty much, Lich even got slapped by Billy, who would get slapped by Finn in the Jakesuit even without Grass Sword
Isn't the Ice King like more powerful than the Lich and most other creatures when he gets serious?
No
Considering Winter King put a cosmic being in an unbreakable ice ball, yes.
I think The Lich might actually be more powerful than Scarab, we have seen him break free out of crystal ice just by melting it with his essence before in the Citadel episodes.
He is. Scarab himself isnt especially powerful (he is no slouch though). He just has a fancy weapon
The powerscaling is weird. Lich being more powerful than Scarab but getting completely BTFO by Golb while Scarab had enough confidence in his position to tell Golb to stay out of his way
And Scarab being powerful enough to resist GOLB's attacks at least for a time.
Scarab has social power, he has a job that grants him cosmic perks and a fancy weapon. He's also resilient by nature due to his body breaking down into smaller and smaller beetles, which is probably related to his position/nature as a metacosmic entity. We don't know if Golb actually wanted to kill him or was just shooing him off or even toying with him.
Meanwhile the Lich while also having some natural claims to power he seems to have mostly built up his power by mastering magic itself to a very high degree.
but he was in a cave this time
He's incapable of getting serious.
he got pathetically btfo by Flame Princess and the Patience St Pim the girl ice wizard
Yes he is. Ice King flew to the stratosphere and threw party god into space. Ice King is pretty powerful when he decides to be
I don't think it's crazy to say Evergreen could've given Hunson and maybe even Lich a run for their money. He outclassed the other elementals of his time easily and manage to beat an elemental monster counter to his own powers.
7 probably
compared to the other characters in the show?
Like a 4 probably. Cant imagine her beating most fighters.
Oh cool a chainsawman reference.
Asa huntress wizard
>On a scale of 1 to 10, how powerful is she?
Don't know much about scaling but how does that work?
When did they ever split?
I'm thinking the same thing. What OP is trying to get here?
Pollination season hit, and Huntress remembered the time she saw him in the river.
Generals not allowed. Also what are you even talking about you dumbass?
In F&C they're dating. Also how is this a general?
Why the fuck they add these stupid rules that they don't ven care about it (without mentioning that they will anyways use the off topic excuse)
Generals eventually turn into cesspools of off-topic discord level schizo posting.
Look at any /vg/ thread with a long number.
That was almost 10 years ago, and again how is that different from any stupid thread that comes every time there is something new or popular, even things like zelling get generals wverytime there is new content
you're suggesting they ever broke up
that was your first mistake
>you're suggesting they ever broke up
>that was your first mistake
>implying that Finn didn't give Huntress Wizard to some guy that is the spirit of the forest
>gif related
What is headcannon for 200 alex
They broke up because Finn came out of the closet
What do yoe mean how?
*you
Get back from what? They never broke up
>Another Huntress Wizard thread
OP I can’t keep being on Cinemaphile
Fuck dat Tree bitch, this is now a GRASS BITCH THREAD
I still don't understand him. Is he a grass fella with all the memories of Finn, or just a Finn clone with a grass bod and demonic influence?
the former+demonic influence
theyre the same, memories etc., until the grass body manifests
fern's voice change signifies the shift in grass physiology (stronger) and demon mentality (choosing violence) = different entity from finn, not just a clone
https://vocaroo.com/14EeAdW2iZIn
They had sweaty forest sex and had lots of babies.
If they had kids in farmworld, surely they would have some in Ooo, right?
People keep saying Huntress Wizard smells like a hobo when she is literally a tree! She doesn’t have such odor.
>she is literally a tree! She doesn’t have such odor.
Trees are a living organism, and all living organisms omit a smell.
So she will smell nice?
She probably smells like sawdust, toasted honey, freshly cut grass and citronella oil
Let's be real, she smells like soil after it rains at her best and compost at her worst (best)
She smells like sweet white oak nuts and a hint of pine.
she's a tree person. She sweats and pisses ect.
the people want her stink, anon.
Considering how much raw meat she eats... god. Imagine how her sweat tastes
maple syrup
Do you think she produce that kinda stuff too?
>impatiently waiting for autumn so you can drink it straight from the source
I miss Mona Lisa anon.
me too...
Forgot about that guy. What a homosexual. I don't even remember seeing Mona Lisa in the show
He didn't deserve it
>Verification not required.
Reminder this is how someone with red-green colorblindness like Finn sees her.
Every time someone shows what places and characters in Ooo look like from Finn's colorblind perspective it all looks so depressing and dreary. Like everything is in a state of dying. Especially sucks since Finn literally lives in one of the most vibrant and green looking parts of Ooo but to him it's all an ugly brown or yellow.
I never got this. Him understanding that rubies are red and emeralds are green and then mixing them up suggests he wasn't always colourblind. Or that he's only colourblind sometimes
He was just colorblinded at the moment because of the light, remember that just vefore that he saw a red laser
He could have been taught the difference before actually seeing them in person
colorblindness means you can't easily identify one color from another automatically, not that you cannot learn the names of the colors and develop intuition for telling them apart in the right circumstances.
Some people go years not realizing they're colorblind
yeah but if Finn know's what green is to him the stone should be the same colour as grass for it be an emerald.
>tfw I see no difference
it depends on the type of red-green weakness, some see it as you describe, others just cannot tell them apart if they are next to each other
why did they make her tits bigger
I don't know why but I'm sure that the bear Finn killed was their secret kid that HF kept away from him because she didn't want him to become more attached to her (she already feels somewhat uncomfortable by how needy he's become after Jake's death)
HW kind of looks like Shoko now that I think about it. Do you think they could be the same species?
They didn’t
Why do I hate this yet find Finn x Lady Rainacorn so based?
>Why do I hate this yet find Finn x Lady Rainacorn so based?
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>why do i hate this
Because cuck shit is cringe
>find finn x lady rainacorn so based
Cuz it's either Jake sharing a woman who he knows will outlive him for eons and is fine with her being open in their marriage.
Or you self insert as Finn.
You're not only a furry, but a self-inserter retard.
Are we still not going to talk about how old she is?
She kinda groomed Finn when you think about it. She's at least 8 years older than him
Is she? There is nothing saying she couldn't be a teen in her first appearance. She's just tall because she wears heels and is a weird dryad girl.
Ice King was hitting on her so she must be an adult or at least 17 when he did so. She's definitely older than Finn, I think that at least goes without saying. Finn likes older girls anyways
>this picture again.
I don't get it
I mean Ice King wasn't really hitting on her, I saw that more as him just trying to seem cool and maybe impress a fellow wizard only for her to ditch him. She had much more of a "cool edgy teen" vibe going with her in that scene. I do agree that she's older than Finn though, I just don't think its a significant amount.
Also Ice King kidnapped LSP when she was still 15, and some of the other princesses seem like they could be around that age as well since they were flirty with Finn. Ice King probably just doesn't realise how old people are (especially if they don't look very human) and the reason he ditched Bubblegum when she was 13 was because she was specifically described as 13 and looked a lot younger than he is used to seeing her.
>Ice King was hitting on her so she must be an adult or at least 17 when he did so.
Pure fanfic. Ice King kidnapped LSP who was 15 and mentioned FP as a princess he found attractive
So 14 is the IK's cutoff? A man of culture
Damn, she’s actually pretty tall.
That's just Adventure Time's size inconsistencies, she isn't always that much taller than him.
That's a big huntress
For me.
I do wish we got more Finn and PB even if it was just PB throwing a Finn a bone as thanks for being such a hero. Like her giving him a slightly risqué polaroid of her showing a bit of leg with lipstick mark on it. Their age dynamic could've been cool
Their age dynamic was retconned in anyway, she was never meant to be some ancient matriarch, just a ditzy young princess whose age is "slightly older than Finn"
Almost everyone in Fionna and Cake got a happy ending. Depends on how you look at it, considering that this is the latest content before Together Again.
What did Simon get out of this besides a "new perspective". I can't imagine he'll find new love when Golbetty is still alive
He's gunna move on, and enjoy life. That's pretty much what's gunna happen to him. Plus, I don't think he'll find new love, because Betty, or he's fucking old. He's like a 1056.
I hope Simon is immortal. Him dying of old age is kinda just sad after being immortal as the Ice King.
Simon getting old and dying happy is the best thing a human from his time can get. Dude was immortal and all he got out of it was pain, suffering and depression, atleast now he's actually living life as himself.
I just hope he gets out of his funk and regains his passion for mysterious artefacts and whatnot
it's strange how in the past he was the outcast for being obsessed with the supernatural and magical, and now he's just living like a boring 21st century normie? There's a fucking buffet of curiosities that a scholar like him should be drooling over. Though the depression and betty summoning attempts make sense as to why he wasn't interested.
He could absolutely surpass PB in terms of genius, especially with all the future tech and 1000 years of research to catch up on.
Someone like him could easily figure out how to extend his life for as long as he wants to, and I hope he does. I don't think a character like him could let himself die when there's so much to learn.
I hope there's more spinoffs or miniseries', not too high stakes, just him looking for some artefacts or lost secret to immortality, bringing Finn along to help (and actually enjoying himself this time)
I just want to see him in good spirits and filled with determination for once.
Nothing snaps a person out of depression like artifact hunting
He has potential as a genuine wizard and he could extend his life that way, but he’s not a scientist. An antiquarian, not a doctor. And the path of wizardry in AT seems to mean accepting madness.
Maybe he did explore some of Ooo’s libraries and examined some of Finn’s treasures for a while, but maybe it’s not the same anymore, in the past it was a grand puzzle to figure out the existence of something otherwordly, but now wacked out magic, alternate universes and interdimensional gods are as normal as morning tea. I’m sure there’s deeper things to learn, he just has to remember what motivated him before Betty
Homeboy's earned a little retirement. Finn, Marceline and the rest are more equipped to actually investigate and acquire the artifacts what with all the demons and shit out there, and with resources like the Enchiridion or Wizards out there most artifacts are probably known and understood better than his research capabilities could manage. Augmenting his skills in either field would require some kind of assistance or going mad/sad with magic again.
I want Simon to become a badass who just knows all there is to know about magic without actually being magic himself. He just carries a bag of magical crap and uses it when needed. Maybe even be able to recall or at least partially recollect his memories as Ice King. 1000 years on Ooo has to be worth something
winter king has his priorities in order
You're just asking for Doctor Who at that point
>he'll find new love
Golbetty reincarnated through a Calamity Comet and it's implied she's the blue butterfly with a smile now.
No, finn went back to flame princess and make has far to tier 15
Hot
Finn being into femdom is pretty much canon isn't it? His wet dream is literally Flame Princess burning him. He even says pain is just "hickies from the universe". He probably asks Huntress Wizard to abuse him every night, lucky guy
We can only hope.
Which Adventure Time are we talking about?
What makes her so cool?
The moisture retained in her leaves.
More like Tittt Wizard.
How would you make her an exceptional beast?
Who said they ever split up on the first place? Side note which one of Jake's pups would be most likely to refer to Finn as Uncle Finn? Ml
Jesse, the "creator" of HW and writer of flute spell. His intentions were pretty clear.
Their whole dynamic is geralt and yennifer. Won't settle down but their paths will cross repeatedly due to the lives they live. Also hard meat don't get eat.
Won’t settle down, meaning Huntress left him to go fuck other guys whenever she pleases including the Spirit of the Forest.
That’s what not being tied down means. Same with her creator and writer specifying that they’d split up after that ep, as far as every other man that fucked HW is concerned she is single and ready to mingle
It's fine if you want to type out cuck fantasies like that. Just know it's a shitpost to everyone else
>no counterargument
It’s fine if you wanna cope but being unable to argue against my facts is just your subconsciously admitting I am right
She didn’t wanna be “tied down or committed” to Finn and wanted to be wild and free. Meaning she’s being wild and free to fuck others like the literal end of the ep when he helped her to get fucked by Forest Spirit
kek
so the main character got cucked in the OG show
but the fans were mad
so they brougth him back just to be cucked again!
white boys catch no breaks
lmao
>Finn has a cool magic adventure waifu he can fight alongside/bone down whenever he feels like it instead of being tied into a pointless domestic arrangement
>this is somehow a bad thing
cope
Yes, you are coping. We can tell.
>instead of being tied into a pointless domestic arrangement
The pointless domestic arrangement is there for a reason: to pair you together in loyalty.
Instead Finn paired Huntress Wizard with the Forest Spirit and gave the thumbs up while she fucked and sucked his fat bastard cock and swallowed Forest Spirit’s fat bastard cum, then she told him “awwww sorry buuuut…I just don’t wanna be tied down to you. I think I should be free to go fuck—I mean see other guys whenever I like. Later fag.”
So now thanks to Finn cucking out and buying her shit about how she doesn’t need to love him and doesn’t want to be tued down to him, she’s out there getting fucked and cummed-inside by every ugly smelly bastard in Ooo while Finn went back to being the faggy loser who actually hot women like Pb and Marceline will always reject because he’s just a little beta cuckold.
Finn is the Will Smith of Ooo.
Based and Correct
“Ummm I just don’t think I’m emotionally ready for a committed relationship yet and also I wanna keep riding the cock carousel for 20 more years until I’m ready to settle for a beta like you” - Huntress Bicycle
>AI slop spam
20 years dungeon, you freaks
You're the only one who comes across as cucked here
>Also hard meat don't get eat.
But exceptional beasts like them cannot fall in love.
How poetic
>no shapeshifter gf
huntress wizard green pubes
Green moss-pubes
Finn must become a moss fiend.
Leafy pubes
Why is her design so hot
The slit eyes for one. feral features are hot, like Marceline with her fangs and ears
I wonder if the humans are completely killed off in the future or if they just fucked off back to the islands once the Rainicorn-Dogs formed their kingdom
Maybe Pups eat humans, like the Rainicorns did
The Human Candy city looks abandoned but we know the Candy people are safe and stored within the Prizeball Guardians but no humans were seen so they might actually be extinct for real this time, all thanks to Finn's great nephew.
"High Strangeness" left a clue about the plans to rebuild the kingdom in a distant planet. It never happens because PB gets captured all the time by ice thing
It might have failed because we see Rainicorn Pup kingdom has also become a spacefaring civilization
Seeing the candy kingdom surrounded by a cityscape instead of a whimsical forest makes me really sad
It's still a candy city
i think the fell because Jake's kids took over pretty much all of Ooo.
Jake really should have listened to his own advice about tier 15.
My thoughts exactly. Humans are supposed to dominate Earth, not dogs.
Muh dick
Good lord...
NSE homosexual GO TIE AN ABSOLUTE NOOSE
WE DONT ALLOW YOUR KIND HERE SIR
At least it ain't futa.
Kek, sauce?
Blackwhiplash
Here's the first part
https://files.catbox.moe/fyujdm.png
imagine getting drained through your asshole
>Huntress Wizard dakimakura pillow
She definitely has mossy pubes. So soft.
What happened to this show?
Nothing nice.
Ok, I seriously love this art style. Who made this pic?
Did they or did they or get back together?
I wanna make some nice Adventure Time field centers/tokens for yugioh. Post some art that would be good for them.
Is that somone's OC or what the artist thought male Huntress Wizard would look like?
I think it's how he'd imagine it.
His feet look like a little chode
Man Im rewatching and I forgot how great Magic Man is. I wish he had a lot more screen time, his fuckery is great.
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And half of that screentime is boring normal man shit too. I wish he was just a dick instead of having a tragic backstory too.
I really liked Betty's explanation of the MMS here. The conversation in this episode was pretty cool.
the fuck are these things
Why does he have cringe cactus dreads
That hair is so gross
badass
How would you fare in Ooo if you got transported there?
Reasonably safe if I lived in the Candy Kingdom(do they even let outsiders live there?). I’d wanna dick around in all the prewar ruins though looking for artifacts and shit.
Candy Kingdom still feels like a terrible choice when picking a location to settle in Ooo because of the amount of dangerous events or attacks that happen there.
What makes you think other places aren't as dangerous in that regard?
The fact that the world doesn't blow up and there don't seem to be many other F&J tier adventurers around to stop it from doing so if everywhere was as full of bullshit as the Candy Kingdom
The other options we've been shown were small villages (often literally small), small kingdoms both literal and figurative which aren't particularly safe in location or defenses, and places that are downright dangerous like the bandit city or the hyooman tribe settlement. One exception is the Kingdom of Nuts I suppose but that place lacks all the benefits of the Candy Kingdom.
There's the Breakfast Kingdom that appears organized and well defended but it's small and in the shitty badlands. Fire Kingdom's both shitty and unsafe. Wizard City is alright-ish, especially if you're a wizard yourself, but even then it seems like a pretty dangerous place.
Library Princesses place is okayish too I guess.
Berry Kingdom seems alright.
Yeah probably the best place.
For me it is the breakfast kingdom. I'll get a regular job and eat pancakes and bacon until I die.
I can shoot really well and have some minor experience in non-lethal fights(meaning I'm more experienced than 80 percent of the male population), so if I have a ray gun or an actual gun I might end up okay in general.
It seems the candy kingdom would be one of the safer places to be, outside of the human civilization which itself would probably be my best bet come to think of it.
Discounting them, the candy kingdom is the best option for safety and reasonable medical care if I'm able to get PB to give even half of a shit to use her mega science to cure any ailments or injuries that arise.
The idea of successful adventures that don't lead to me being injured or killed is appealing, but I don't think I would feel much purpose in that world aside from that.
Here in the real world I have goals and achievements I want to aim for, but what future is there in Ooo for a human other than a successful adventurer or a corpse?
>i'm a fatass autist who spends 99% of his day inside
i'm dying immediately
He did nothing wrong.
He should have chosen cinnamon bun as the target not PB
Huntress Wizard Wife wife
She does make a good wife material
Imagine using Huntress Wizard as firewood
Imagine getting splinters in your dick from morning wood
Whatever
It's a sad world where this doesn't get picked up
>NFTs
oh boy
yeah, not a fan of that. I still hope the short turns out good.
Isn't this the storyboard artist who was so hung up about Crossover, specifically how it barely explained how exactly the Farmworld universe still existed after Jake's wish that he tried to add in more scenes of Prismo giving exposition but it still got cut?
Yes. Him and Alden sneakily tried to make it a double episode but had to cut it down in the end. His explanation ended up being "retconned" with Fionna and Cake anyway, so it was for the best they didn't explain too much.
this should have been in the episode, i've been trying to explain to people in these threads that this is how it works and Finn is still the original Finn for weeks
In a way, they're both the "original finn." It's sorta like a split timeline. One where Finn became Farmworld Finn, and one where Jake prevented Finn from becoming farmworld Finn.
Can you explain it Anon, reading that chicken scratch is proving annoying.
Farmworld Finn was created separately when Finn made his wish. Finn’s consciousness, but not his memories or personality, were then transferred into FW Finn’s brain. When Jake made his wish, though, original Finn’s consciousness was pulled back to inhabit its original body that was now in use again. FW Finn kept existing though because, again, he was an entity independent of Finn
So is Farmworld Finn technically the same Finn we followed from S1-S4?
This is such a stupid question because he doesn't have any of the memories, the backstory, or anything that's even close to our Finn, he specifically has a different life with different memories and and a different history, he is not the original Finn.
But it's technically where S1-S4 Finn ended up in after he made his wish to Prismo. S5-beyond Finn was created as part of Jake's wish. Like if Farmworld Finn wasn't the original then where did Jerry Lich come from if that wasn't the same Lich from seasons two to four?
This is just being dense on purpose anon, I'm sure you can clearly tell the difference between the Finns.
>where did Jerry Lich come from if that wasn't the same Lich from seasons two to four?
Same as Farmworld Finn, it's from a wish-altered reality, the fact that reality is altered to begin with should tell you that in an existential level, these characters are fundamentally different, SPECIALLY Farmworld Finn who has a completely different backstory.
Notice how Jake's wish seemingly never creates a new reality, Prismo just refers to it as the same one, and that all that stuff witht the Lich simple didn't happen, I think it's obvious which reality takes priority.
Seriously, this fucking "original Finn" argument is as stupid as people saying Sword Finn is the original Finn, when we know for a fact that the Finn that didn't become a sword was the older one, not the one from the past, it just feels like trying to make things more tragic for the sake of it.
But Fionna and Cake reveals Prismo basically creates a new universe for every reality-altering wish and the wisher gets transported into that new universe, getting slotted into their role there. The Lich's dead universe wasn't erased by Finn or Jake's wishes, it was still there and so was The Lich who made that wish. The Lich who deactivated in Prismo's time room was leftover and stranded there from Jake's wish to change how the past played out.
Farmworld Finn may live in a completely different world and have a different backstory but that's still the original Finn whose self was just altered to fit into that new reality.
>still the original Finn whose self was just altered to fit into that new reality.
Something something Ship of Theseus, if it's absolutely nothing like the original Finn, is it the original Finn? I'd say no, but you're free to think otherwise I guess.
>Lich's dead universe wasn't erased by Finn or Jake's wishes
Because if the Lich never wished to kill everyone Jake would have never made his wish. The Lich's wish NEEDS to happen no matter what. So Prismo made a new universe for Lich so that way both wishes (Lich's original wish and Jake's wish Lich's wish altered wish) can be true SIMULTANEOUSLY.
This semantics argument is pointless anyways because in Crossover Finn says that he suddenly got better at the flute after the events of that three parter. Meaning that his soul temporarily inhabited Farmworld Finn but was pulled back retroactively after Jake’s wish
>Extremely intelligent in both magic and battle knowledge despite not being magical
>could utilize specialized tools to leech off magic from other magical creatures and harm them in the process
>said magical energy could be used to lopen dimensional gates, summon an elder god and shit
I would like to see Simon became legitimately good at the entire magical energy leeching shit in season two.So many potential
>Maybe he could steal/copy abilities from other creatures?
>Maybe he could learn more GOLB magic or even command other elder gods like prismo and the owl?
>Maybe he could develop more tools to help him do this better?
>Maybe he could even develop some magical ability due to being saturated with magical energy constantly?
Simon's arc haven't ended yet.I need to see him became some top tier adventurer like in the manga.
Thought this was worth posting too. The amount of times I see people blaming individual boarders for the direction of the whole show is annoying.
Did Simon already reincarnate by the time of Together Again, is that why he wasn't seen in any of the Dead Worlds?
We don't know. Could be he did died of natural causes, or that he's immortal via Betty's wish (Though him having wrinkles and a silver streak is a sign of aging, or stress).
Most likely he's mortal, and died.
I reckon he'd be down for another go at life.
F&C put in the interesting suggestion that Shermy and Beth might actually be the reincarnations of Simon and Betty, which is interesting to think about even if it's way more likely that they're Finn and Jake's reincarnations.
I mean, Finn didn't go to all dead worlds, for all we know, he was chilling in the dead world 69.
Finn didn’t see much of anyone in the deadworlds, he immediately went to find Jake and then immediately fucked off to reincarnate. It’s unclear if he even saw Jermaine
Jermaine was present
But did Finn see him?
Man, Adventure Time lore got weird. I stopped paying attention around when Finn got friendzoned by PB and started chasing Flame Princess. Half the time I don't know what any of you are talking about. I guess in a way I'm glad.
He ended up donking it up with FP anyways.
I don't care, I stopped paying attention.
For me Adventure Time exists in a bubble and it's only allowed to escape that bubble if it gives me more joy than if it didn't escape at all.
Adventure Time taught me to practice clean sanitised narrative controls.
Jokes on Finn, sword Finn/Fern is still around in Ooo 1000+ years later according to Kent Osbourne and Ghostshrimp.
Yeah that was weird so I rewinded.
that's pretty gay, just accept what it's canon in the show and move on
It's fine. That's pretty much what I do with ATLA. At the end of the day, canon is just what someone made up. You don't have to care about it. All of AT is canon to me, but if you wanna ignore parts of it then more power to you.
I did that until it started being shit, then I moved on moved on.
Adventure Time was always weird and strangely enough a lot of lore actually was setup early on, albeit unintentionally, the writers used a lot of throwaway details from the early seasons to extrapolate and build on several storylines.
I bet Huntress wizard smells like spruce tree
Cedar.
Could a Shermy and Beth series work? How would you do it?
For me, it's obvious it's going to have to take the serialized story route like Fionna and Cake to differentiate itself from how episodic Adventure Time was. Maybe each season deals with a new storyline.
But the biggest dilemma will be balancing it as its own thing and as a sequel series to AT. Muto was right in that the entry barrier to the franchise is daunting at this point with how many AT episodes and spinoffs are there but at the same time people will be mainly watching a Shermy and Beth show to see what has become of Ooo and other characters like PB and Marceline.
Also get an actual animation studio like Mercury Filmworks to do the animation this time with fluid movements, AT could look beautiful with the visuals but the general flatness and stiffness drag it down.
No, I would like it better if Shermy and Beth remained a mystery of the far future.
Most characters in the show are already dead by this point, and anything related to PB and Marceline would be too upsetting to please fans. So making an entire show from zero, without most of the characters people loved from the original series in an OOO that's less magical and more dystopian doesn't sound very good.
Distant Lands and F&C already proved both CN and Adam Muto would rather use the old characters people love than make new ones.
I think Muto would rather make a whole new show at this point, but he's just happy to be in a job.
>I think Muto would rather make a whole new show at this point
If he did, he wouldn´t have made an entire show based on three old characters, alongside multiverse variants of characters who already existed
You say that as if it would be so easy for him, or anyone else to make something original in the current environment.
He actually talked about being interested in making something new in an interview but that it was impossible in the current landscape that prioritizes established IPs over original ones, AT has bigger pull because of its status as a old and popular CN IP.
>Distant Lands and F&C already proved both CN and Adam Muto would rather use the old characters people love than make new ones.
Distant Lands had a lot of new characters, especially BMO and Wizard City.
The old characters were the most popular in both of those though
I hope we get this instead of more Fionna and cake
>other characters like PB and Marceline
What would you do with them?
I mean there's a lot of potential there.
Will the fedora tipping atheist mad scientist obsessed with her immortality and her people's continuance start looking in darker madder recesses, when she can't science her way out of competent and galactic threats and the crushing wheel of time?
What will become of the floating teen demon corpse marinated in dark power, who already wanted to be free of the darkness and was ready to die 1000 years prior? Does she still hold on to humanity after all this time?
Will they still have good in their hearts for the small, temporary people? Will Finnsword maybe have them remember those bright inspiring times he met them in the grasslands?
Will they have the personality of sexy ancient foxy witches? Will the show's rating go further up, allowing them to explicitly acknowledge or even tastefully show that they're fucking?
I thought the thumbnail was some sort of blob-monster PB engulfing Marcy in some sort of death throw.
She would
I like to imagine they moved to the Nightosphere and abandoned all the mortal nonsense
Killed with her own arrows
just fucking extra mean for no reason lmao
A season one plot could be about Shermy and Beth being tasked by Marceline, whose like a mentor hero figure to them, to help find then rescue PB, who had traveled to the Ice Thingdom to attempt to steal the remaining the gems from Gunter so that she could finally overthrow Gibbon.
Gibbon and his tyranny over Ooo could be the main overarching plot of a Shermy and Beth show.
If it's exactly 1000 years in the future, either a catalyst comet event JUST happened or they're due for one very soon. Either way you could explore that
Honestly?
Finn being the last white blue-eyed blonde male human child in the midst of the apocalypse is what made the series work as well as it did.
And before you cry about "/pol/" or some shit, that deal about him being "human" and a "child" are the most important parts. Being conventionally goodlooking just helps.
Lose those, you lose the plot.
hi!
what songs do you guys associate with adventure time
white boy summer
francis forever
The House Hunting Song still pops up in my head all these years later.
The bacon pancakes song of course.
Just earlier today I was drying my balls off in front of the fan after a shower and was singing BMO's "happening happens" song to myself.
Yeah that's the song that gets stuck in my head the most too
>if there was some amazing force outside of time, to take us back to where we were
What a simple line that sucker punches that pit of the heart that misses something or someone in the past
also I like how with the "little pictures" part it's Rebecca referencing their storyboards they can look back on
For me it's
>"Oh, oh BMO, how did you get so pregnant?"
I giggle to myself like a retard whenever I think about it.
I've been thinking lately about the Lich as a character. I noticed the Lich never refers to a charter by a name, only by a role. Finn he calls "child", Simon he calls "ice wizard'. It reminds me of the episode of Over the Garden Wall where the people in the tavern only know others in terms of their role. He doesn't interact with Prismo (a cosmic entity) the way other cosmic entities do (where they interact as equals), he clearly sees the wishmaster as nothing more than function. Obviously this is part of character to have some distance and look down on others but I think it speaks to his way of seeing the world. Kinda weird now that I think about it when he actually does talk to other characters at all, as during his stay in the time room he saw absolutely no reason to interact, as if others weren't even there. The Lich is not all powerful but he does seem to be all knowing, possessing something akin to complete knowledge regardless of how and when he appears to spawn in a world, and of course infinitely patient. Like his infinite knowledge his desire to eradicate all life seems to be an inborn part of him at the moment of genesis as it has no obvious source.
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About his "role" or "purpose". I think everyone agrees the Lich does not represent "death" in the universe/multiverse. we've already met Life and Death and they are presented as two "opposite" yet connected roles in the balance of a self perpetuating cycle of existence. In one of his speeches he states that "The mortal world doubts and questions, I know exactly what I am". He's referred to himself as "The ceaseless wheel", "The End", "The last scholar of Golb".
About his history: The Lich tells about an era of chaos preceeding the world seen in the show. He states "before there was time, before there was nothing, there were monsters". Did he come from this era? The calls the prisoners from the citadel "Titans". Why were these entities imprisoned there? Side note: in greek myth the Titans were the previous gods before being overthrown by the olympians (Zeus and co.) and imprisoned in Tartarus. Are these some of the "monsters" previously mentioned?
About his motivations. The Lich's wish to prismo was for the extinction of all life, and in Fionna and Cake we get to see the result. What was left was not nothing as there was still BMO and a planet and such. Even though Prismo's wishes often come with an ironic twist we see that he got what he intended with his wish. This is what he tried to achieve in "Together Again" where his actions result in the collapse of the cycle and structure of the dead worlds and rebirth cycle.
I don't think the show has shown yet why he thinks eradicating all life would please Golb, and why he wants to please Golb, and it almost seems like he'd never even met Golb until the end of Fionna and Cake.
Side note: In this multiverse, at least in our Ooo there is a literal "formula" for creating life (How PB created the candy people and the Lemongrabs created the lemon people). Wonder if that relates to what life "is" in this multiverse and what that means to eradicate it.
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anyway my conclusion is that he just sees other characters as static 1-dimensional things with a single purpose or function in the universe. He thought his purpose was to extinguish all "life", perhaps because "life" causes change and he can't seem to handle that? Perhaps it was part of a new order that overtook the old chaos and he was unable to cope? Perhaps he and the Titans were incompatible with the new order? In the end he lost what he thought was his purpose and without a purpose Golb ended his existence. Not sure what he was expecting really, though it's interesting to see such an alien character have something akin to religious zealotry as a motivation. Wonder if we'll ever get to see more of his past or the era of monsters?
Congrats anon, you've given more thought to the Lich than the "writers" gave to ANYTHING in the show
it's more fun than putting on a fake persona to look for a job you don't want because you need money to live in a hellscape of a world you wish you'd never been born into
He has called Finn by his name multiple times.
Litch: (Me) Eyyy paisano
Huntress Wizard would be more powerful if she had a crybaby backstory like Marceline just saying.
I just can't get over how she saved the humans, yet pranking Finn and Jake from the first season.
You can chase off a bird from an ant hill but still decide to fuck with the ants.
People love cats but still put cucumbers near them to scare them.
Pranking people doesn't mean you can't save them
Her saving the humans and killing all the vampires was so cringe. Marceline and PB got turned into such Mary Sues it insane
Why? Marceline got definitely less and less competent as the show went on. Almost all she did was lose even though she was introduced as someone extremely powerful. Bubblegum got turned into a girlboss but that's a completely different story.
it doesn't have to be cringe but they don't exactly make it look cool
but it sounds cool
She explains it in the episode itself
What i can't get over is how Marceline never seem to be thrill with encounter a human. An actual human being. You think she would feel ecstatic to find one in land of Ooo. Let alone be nicer to Finn cuz he's a human kid.
She probably was thrilled in her own way, which is why she kept hanging out with Finn and messing with him. She had become jaded and cynical over hundreds of years without humans, and meeting Finn again allowed her to regain some of her compassion back.
She's just too cool to be seen with you.
She’s so goofy
>Olson: Jeremy was 12 when we started, I was 17, so I was kind of in this weird in-between state of “Do I hang out with the adults, do I hang out with the kids?” We became really really close and I kind of looked after him like an older sister. And Marceline and Finn’s characters also sort of have that weird bond. Fans would ask, “Do Marceline and Finn ever date?” Absolutely not, that’s not gonna happen, ever ever ever ever.
Ironic coming from someone who voiced Vanessa Doofenshmirtz
>Carring about VAs opinions in the first place
>The same VA that called bubbline maniacs weirdos but after a while bend the knee and learnt to wear sackcloth and ashes like a good little girl
>The same VA that auditioned for bubblegum before so had to know the premise from the beggining
>From the interview that came after the finale and after the character got permanently lesbofied
>And whose character still got stuck in agegap relationship anyway
>Finn had a chance before she got back with Bonnie!
>I just don't like you... that way
>I'm sorry, Finn, I just... I don't want to date you
-S2E20, "Go With Me"
And Finn wasn't even really into her either lmao
That episode is basically the anti Finnceline episode.
Yeah and Amity tried to kill Luz when they first met, shame some storyboarder wanted to pair them together so they retconned in that they actually like each other
Finn and Marcy fought in their first appearance together, but then they became friends and remained just friends.
Like Amity and Luz would've, if some storyboarder managed to successfully push Luz x Hunter into the show
>if things were different things would be different
Glad you worked that out, retard-kun.
Yes, and we're talking about the possibility of Finnceline at one point in time, it wasn't out of the question just because of Go With Me
Yeah but any ship is possible by that logic, which is retarded an unhelpful.
Just like bubbline, the giant crackship that came out of Sugar's and Muto's asses lmao. Bitches only like it for aesthetics and "representation". There's nothing more to it.
I don't care about Bubbline, Finn and Marcy just didn't have romantic feelings for each other. They had a brother/sister like relationship.
Not really, we know Marceline was actually an intended pairing at one point in time due to the pitch bible, we don't know if that plan was discarded during the first two seasons, or only in S3 after WWM. It's unlike TOH where Amity and Luz were intended for each other from the very first pitch and were never even considered as pairings for anyone else.
The Pitch Bible isn't canon, Penn had an initial idea of an Archie comics rip off that they ditched by the time they actually made the show.
>we don't know if that plan was discarded during the first two seasons
It very obviously was, because the pitch had Marcy and PB frequently competing with each other for Finn's affections Betty and Veronica style. But in the first two seasons Marcy and PB interact literally just once, where they just say an awkward hello to each other. If they were still following the pitch bible before season 3 then they actually would have followed it and included the dynamic they described in it.
We're not talking about canon, we're talking about what the crew was possibly still considering at a certain point in time, like how we know for a fact Bubbline wasn't something they were considering until S3.
I know, but its clear that the pitch bible wasn't influencing their decisions in regard to Finn/PB/Marcy's dynamic because it just wasn't present in the first two seasons of the show.
I still don't think that's evidence enough to say it was completely dismissed before the show started, after all Amphibia only had two episodes in its S1 that actually explored the core drama+lore idea behind the show. The fact AT aged down PB to pair her with Finn in the S2 finale could mean the age gap relationship implications with the two of them were getting pushback from executives/S&P so they Betty and Veronica dynamic had to be pushed to the background just like Bubbline eventually was. Also they don't have to interact with each other to be competing for Finn's attention.
>amphibia
The core was Sprig and Anne’s friendship, which was very present. The lore stuff is comparable to AT’s Lich which also appeared at the end of the second season.
> Also they don't have to interact with each other to be competing for Finn's attention.
Except they do, as described in the pitch. You did read it right? But even if we say they kept the love rivalry but removed interacting with each other for some reason, the two of them still weren’t competing for his affections. Finn had one sided love for PB that she sometimes rewarded to be nice to him, and the only time Finn and Marcy were in a romantic context was the episode establishing they both aren’t into beach other like that. On no level was the romantic rivalry outlined in the pitch present in the show.
>It very obviously was, because the pitch had Marcy and PB frequently competing with each other for Finn's affections Betty and Veronica style.
Did it? I recall Pendelton Ward saying their Betty and Veronica dynamic was in the context of them being best frenemies, not because they wanted to screw Finn. Ward said that Marceline was never intended to be a love interest for Finn.
>Ward said that Marceline was never intended to be a love interest for Finn.
Do you have a source
From back in the ancient days when the crew basically answered any question people asked them on the internet
https://archive.md/20130208234830/http://vyou.com/pendletonward
I can't see anything in the link
It finally died? Worked for me a few yesrs ago.
It's stuck like this but I'll take your word for it
This is the weirdest bait I've ever seen when it's common knowledge that Dana went in with the intention of Lumity from the start
2/10 since it got a reply from me, I guess
>Pen specifically requested the voice of Vanessa the cradle robber for PB
How can anyone deny Fubblegum was his endgame
>that gif
right ear
When you fucking realize the age gap between Simon and Marcy is only quarter compered to her and PB.
it's ok, they probably met when they were both in the thick of their ~400 year long brat phase
Name one person who writes this shit who actually likes Finn and wants him to be happy.
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With Finn's pain tolerance Huntress Wizard really has her work cut out for her as the S in their relationship
That pain tolerance through force of will is kind of inspiring to be honest.
do you think they would name their kid oisin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oisín
Do you ever think she got with anyone? Besides me
no idea anon, besides you tow look good together
What is she in Fionna's mundane world, a foot fetish camgirl? A foot fetish camgirl with barely enough subs to pay the bills?
A dirty, homeless bum with no eye and a piece of glass bottle stuck in his head.
Oh that's right, the gender swap. Yeah good point, he's absolutely fucked.
I love human huntress
>that mysterious perpetually hoodied kid in high school nobody could manage to talk to
>except the spazziest and most persistent blonde
>after some time you see her somewhere in the background during every crazy shit he does
>they're always discussing hunting trips
>noooo I'm not jealous, I'm just here to explain to Finn why it's dangerous for him and FP to be together
>also I happened to changed into a the sluttiest dress I own which I've never been seen in before
Seriously, why did she need to show Finn so much leg for this "talk"?
>The whore princess of the Candy kingdom dresses like a slut
Wow, really? Never saw that coming.
She almost always wears her long dress when going to Finn and Jake's place but for some reason decides to slut it up for this talk (but she's totally not jealous)
She's 100% aware of her sex appeal and has used it to get what she wants for hundreds of years. If showing a bit of leg is what it takes to get a teenage boy's attention in order to save the world then she's gonna slut it up.
this; but more than being jealous, the was afraid of losing her obedient, hypercompetent little soldier.
This was my conclusion too but I wanted someone else to say it first
Do you think if Finn's ultimatum was that he would only stop seeing Flame Princess if Bubblegum became his gf, would PB accept? Would she take one for the team or would she just expect everyone but her to give. Also the idea of PB using her body to manipulate Finn into doing what she wants because she knows he's attracted to her is pretty interesting
As a Sugar episode after What Was Missing, her "responsibility demands sacrifice" speech was definitely projecting what she's coped about with Marceline. Can't kiss who you want because too much distraction leads to destruction.
But maybe she thought she could share the pain of duty with Finn? Or maybe she's a typical person that hates to lose the loving adoration of someone's oneitis?
Okay but what's with the shorter skirt? We've literally never seen her wear something like that before especially since she put it one JUST for this
That's covered in my second sentence
>fuck it, I have you at least, you understand now right? so stay with me
>goddamnit I'm hotter than that fire bitch look at THESE
That looks slutty to you?
Hell yeah, if I saw her in the street wearing that I would rape her in a ditch right away
you'd probably rape someone if they wearing a burqa.
The majority of women who wear Burqas in the world are literally inbred, so no probably not.
In the Together Again special, F+J try to contact PB by chanting princess princess princess or something close to that anyway, then we cut to a shot of Peppermint Butler dusting a statue of PB while he wears what looks like a princess tiara, afterwhich he talks to F+J and the two don't mention that they were calling for PB.
So.. is PB that statue? Is Pepbut an interim princess in her stead? Is she dead? What's going on there.
Bubblegum is either dead or more likely not ruling the candy kingdom by the time Finn dies.
The statue that pepbuts is dusting looks awfully mystical and magical. Makes me wonder if it's her corpse, and pepbuts tried to do something to revive it.
I don't think I like that. This is all happening just after Finn dies, right? Finn's lived a life of hard adventure, even if he lived crazy long considering that, and died at the age of 100, that's very little time between the end of the AT cartoon and the point at which she's supposedly dead or otherwise fled her responsibilities as ruler.
She probably just wanted to live a life with Marcy and she's already been ruling the kingdom for hundreds of years, so it isn't like its too early for her to retire or anything.
>Marcy and Bonnie are off having sex in all the places Marcy claimed while the world's going to shit back home
It was just a funny bait and switch.
>oh they're calling PB, I wonder what bubblegum is doing at this time frame
>oh, it's Peppermint Butler. "PB", oh I get it
>The statue that pepbuts is dusting looks awfully mystical and magical. Makes me wonder if it's her corpse, and pepbuts tried to do something to revive it
There's a theory that PB hardened and calcified like old gum, basically hibernating so Peppermint Butler is ruling in her stead until she awakens again.
I like that idea more than the others, that's for sure.
PB = Peppermint Butler. He's the princess now
This. It's a joke because it ~subverts your expectations~ by saying PB and it's the other PB.
The running theory seems to be that PepBut (PB) became princess when she "retired" (bs, we know she's gonna continue underground machinations for her kingdom's continuance for millenia). Princess is a female biased but gender neutral rank in Ooo.
And this suggests that this change happened while Jake was still alive, since there was no surprise from either of them. So probably by Obsidian when she moves into Marcy's house, she's relinquished her day-to-day duties.
there are mystic symbols and shit all over the outside of the candy kingdom in that shot too. he took over, Bubblegum is either chilling with Marcy or she's in space checking in on her new space candy kingdoms for an extended period of time
She knew what she was fucking doing. Chewy little tease is what she is.
Honestly in this particular moment she was just being an autist who saw a friend going through a similar problem she did. She forgot or got swept away in the effect she had on him in favor of "holy shit, someone who is going through what I went through; the sickening drop of something hot you want to hold so bad. Makes me wanna kiss him, us responsible dutiful folks who only want to do what's right can only understand each other..."
PB didn't wanna kiss Finn lol what episode did you watch
I'm just leveling
Adventure crack
Seriously, this is clearly meant to be an esoteric representation of PB and it clearly shows candy cane and red/green as central symbolism
I kinda don't like that they made Choos Goose sorta evil and hell-bound. I don't remember him being quite so figuratively israeli before. He's not exactly a favorite of mine or anything like that, he just seemed like a vaguely pleasant character and him being a bad guy doesn't really please me.
I'm more of a pawn swan guy so idc
I'm just realizing how much candy cane seems to be associated closely with PB
>Pep, her butler, her tank, her closest thing to family probably even more than Neddy
>the inside pattern on her "come along with me" cape
>pic related
>there was some other official work with a peppermint/candy cane pattern behind her but I forgot
>also symbolic of her connection with Ice king/winter king etc by christmas candy
>it's either ice or candy magic that rules Ooo, christmas reigns eternal
After gum, it seems candy cane and root beer are her most natural candy
I don't know what image I'm posting
The first candy elemental and chatsberry also have candy cane in their design. I think you're right.
It might also explain why peppermint butler is more intelligent/stable than her other creations. She inherently understands peppermint better.
I also explains why Root Beer Guy was the most interesting/human candy person. She can shoot root beer from her palms, it's a part of her she understands as well
Or maybe I was just strangely charmed with Root Beer Guy and his comics when I was younger
Respectfully, y'all niggas is smoking crack.
candy people's intelligence isn't necessarily determined by their creation, Root Beer Guy was made just like any other candy person. And so was the artsy Banana Guard guy. PB is just smarter out of necessity because he's the Princess's right hand man
>PB is just smarter out of necessity because he's the Princess's right hand man
Ok, but why would PB choose to create her right hand man out of peppermint candy, specifically? I think she was drawing unknowingly from her past lives as a candy elemental, who seem to have affinity for peppermint candy also.
Something basal in the red/white duality, I guess. But PB seems to have taken on Red/Green duality as well
thats comfy
A treehouse in a grassland; peak comfort
When are we getting the Berserk-style revenge quest for Finn and Jermaine after Jake gets killed?
I don't think Jake should get murdered, I think he should just die of natural causes and it plays out like the Buffy episode about the mom where Finn is confronted by mundane hard reality and he has no idea what to do or how to properly deal with it.
But I do like Steve Wolfhard's idea that Jake's body grows and fills the giant crater on Earth
Jake being 25% of the planet would also make Finn's inability to stop thinking about him a lot more reasonable
Trust me, when you really love somebody, deeply and truly, it's incredibly hard to rid them from your mind once they die.
>Sweet P is there
I love it
peppermint holds the flavor of ice
>your last ask
What was the last ask, it feels necessary to fully appreciate the context.
You are correct
cute throuple
True except Finn's lack of immortality. 80 years is a long time even if you live a long ass time, but it's not long enough for those two.
I figure it would give them about 5-10 years of sexy careless fun times before Finn decides he has to settle down with a mortal to ensure his immortal legacy
Sad though. If he really loves those girls he doesn't just stop loving them once it becomes more convenient to do so. Same for them too I'm sure.
Yeah.. my imagining on a threesome is that the romantic feelings from Finn have cooled, so it's more of a chill "friends with benefits" adventure situation from which he is able to move on from when he develops a deep relationship with another.
But feelings ain't that easy. If he and they get very romantically attached... I guess they'd go through through the soul rending throes of aging and death and loss together
Sex without romantic affection and love is okay I guess, but we should each of us strive for more I think.
If he's to strive for more, the path is HW
Romantic affection and love is still possible in such a situation, it will just always be peeled back by their feelings for another.
The way I see a bubbline/Finn throuple is PB and Marcy agreeing that they love Finn and also think he's growing to be pretty hot, so why not have some fun with him.
BUu yes. That's not real romance, it's just fun and friendship and exploration.
Finn's college lesbian years.
Solved
Anyone else fingin between these two images trying to spot the difference?
Me just a moment ago anon. I'm pretty sure there isn't one. I think anon there meant to put bite marks on Finn, not sure though.
Oh excuse me anon, I was looking for the other side of his neck there.
Would his skin change color and become paler? I know Marcy was always that undead-ish pale, but all the other vampires seem pale too and I'm pretty sure most of them were humans at one point. The low-level ones that were easily dispatched anyway.
Finn's lawful good alignment would purify him of the downsides such as fatal sensitivity to light and the skin complexion thing
You forget he stole something in Thief City once, his soul is eternally tarnished.
They'd probably just give him a forum of immortality later, though probably after he becomes a DILF because Marcy and PB seem like the kinds of girls who'd be into that kind of stuff.
>DILF Finn
That happened in that one timeline in the comics
I'll always be mad that this is genuinely more fun and interesting than anything the actual writers produced.
It's shallow wish fulfilment garbage, only good for a joke. More 'fun and interesting' my ass.
I think the funniest part is that the image that anon posted (
) is actually a mashup of the joke and real version of the comic.
I also got this one. Not sure if it's the "original" one but here you go!
>More 'fun and interesting' my ass.
Who are you kidding.
We al saw how the actual series turned out.
Yeah and it's still ultimately better than a cheap wish fulfilment joke.
Well the good news is that there's not many people left that care about this series enough to argue with you.
I don't think many people beyond Cinemaphile if at all care that much whether Finn got a wife or not.
I'm pretty sure more people care about Bubbline than have ever cared about any Finn relationships
>I'm pretty sure more people care about Bubbline
Oh for sure.
But I'm also sure most people gave up on the show entirely from terrible writing before they could care about the relationships to begin with.
Did they even "give up" though? Adventure Time is remembered fondly internet. Fionna and Cake proved there is still an audience for more AT content.
Well shoot. When you put it that way, I think you've got a point. Adventure Time is still remembered fondly. Hell, it's probably more popular than it's ever been, now that I think about it.
It's not as popular as it was during its peak, but that was never going to last. Considering its age, AT's fanbase still has remarkable vitality.
>Adventure Time is still remembered fondly
Yes? Cinemaphile is an echo chamber. These executives who greenlight AT spinoffs aren't complete retards, they wouldn't do it if they didn't see value in the IP.
>These executives who greenlight AT spinoffs aren't complete retards
They work in cable in an era of free digital media.
I guarantee. They're complete retards.
They work in streaming. Max ordered Distant Lands and Fionna and Cake.
Is it really? It amounts to
>The joke is sex! They both suddenly have the same personality because they want to sex him!
Like, it's a funny comic mostly for buff Finn's goofy smiling face but it isn't exactly compelling.
>Is it really?
yes.
I think PB is more into twinks, but Marcy truly wants her man a bit aged, like a wine
A conclusion too progressive for conservative feminists.
>here's how Finn can still get with Bubblegum/Marceline
He has HW. If you want to self-insert, imagine yourself getting gagged and pegged in the forest.
>He has HW. If you want to self-insert, imagine yourself getting gagged and pegged in the forest.
I can't enjoy her anymore after finding out her current voice actress is israeli
>And then she started on about how she had to cut off the river source along with constantly lobbing magic arrows. She's gone wacko crazy PB
>Yeah, a camp would be much more efficient
>anon seething and crying and shitting himself that people think it’d be hot to have a threesome with PB and Marceline and that Finn would probably be down for it
Calm down they’re just drawings lil bro
Why does it look like she hates him so much? What did Fern do to her?
Be weird and unnatural.
>whutcha mean
Only a splinter of Finn could capture HW's attention so rapturously
Despite F/C being a result of Prismo;s fanfic, I still see them as splinters. I feel like there's an oversoul that Prismo scooped form
They have good chemistry. It's funny how they simultaneously fanserviced HWxFinn fags and didn't confirm anything with mainline Finn and HW. They got to have their cake and eat it too.
Just watched the episode of F&C with Big D, was pretty neat to see him and his gang again, but I felt like they didn't quiiiite capture the feeling of his character that the original series did.
Still a good job even then, though.
Speaking of Fionna and Cake, what do you guys think of that opening? There's a certain thrilling feeling of movement in it that reminds me just a bit of the Venture Bros opening. The music certainly adds to that.
I like it, the trumpets (or atleast what I think are trumpets) are pretty moody and set the tone of the show.
saxophones pretty sure
>Finncels
>Anonymous
>hey nobody is stinking up hood discussion with my favorite buzzword, better post it
Kill yourself
>"hood" discussion
>what if Finn was buff and hot and all the girls wanted to fuck m- I mean him?
Don't be a Finncel if you don't want to get called on it
Not that anon but he obviously meant good, not hood.
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If this was a show like Steven universe, his arc would be completely over here and he'd magically be okay or some shit idk I'm drunk fuck Rebecca and her weird child porn art
It wasn't even her idea so it's not surprising. She just wanted to write a singing episode.
Did Finn fuck Jake's granddaughter?
I think it's likely, look how small that caravan that he showed up in was.
The Banana Guards were in that RV too. I find it more amusing that Finn just cycles through Jake's kids or grandkids as his new companions whenever he goes out adventuring. Like imagine him trying to take Kim Kil Whan on a qiest woth him
That was such a shitty adventure how the fuck did Simon not die
Finn is like a .357 saturday night special. It's not going to stop you from getting shot or stabbed but it'll put whoever did it to you down.
Finn had full control of the situation, as soon as he realised Simon couldn’t do it he stepped in to easily dispatch of the bear
Adult Finn helping Kim Kil Wan on some realestate thing would be funny.
I can see KKW telling Finn he needs to dispatch of monsters who have taken over a house.
And it turns out the monsters were just overdue on rent and KKW wanted Finn to kick them out.
>"Aww dangit K-K-Dub, not again!"
>I find it more amusing that Finn just cycles through Jake's kids or grandkids as his new companions whenever he goes out adventuring.
This is a much more fun idea than any of the sequel's we've got so far. It'd satisfy Finnfags and people who want random characters getting the spotlight to tell whatever random story they have in mind. All I really want is adventures with less need to hold back cause its no longer a kids show.
Then the new spin-off pretty much becomes Adventure Time meets Batman: Brave and the Bold. And I'm totally down for that
Yes.
Real
I honestly have no idea why this ship is so popular.
I know there's that one scene where she rushes out of Finn's trailer in one of the last specials, but I see her a lot with young Finn too.
I have to filter Bronwyn out every time I look up Finn porn, there's that much of it.
It's a shitty finncel cope. That's literally it.
It's funny to go "Haha Finn's fucking Jake's grand daughter" especially when, at the time, she was the replacement.
As for the porn it's just furries being furries.
what's funny is there's a scene in F&C that confirms Jake was alive during Obsidian, just not around for whatever reason
Simon always got that thang on'm
I'm kinda curious: how did you guys feel about F&C?
I just finished watching it all a couple of days ago, and I thought it was good for what it was, albeit clearly rushed (Ex. Fionna's arc, Marshal X Gary, The ending, etc.).
Better than the last 3 or more seasons of the AT cartoon. Equal or better in some ways than the four Distant Lands specials that came out.
To add to that, I just watched the entire animated series over the last two week or so, so it's all still pretty fresh in my brain box'.
I can't really recall the last few seasons of AT off the top of my head, so I wouldn't know if F&C is better or not. What I can say though is that it felt pretty reminiscent of S4-S5.
>He could have brought anyone and decided to send in kids and a literal who. That plus the fact Jay and LD pretty much abandoned their old world was super retarded.
It felt so random, as if the writers felt like they earned a resolution like that, when they really didn't. If there was a few more episodes, then it would've at least been a decent team-up to see if we did. And if they had to stick to only ten episodes, then I would've rather seen each of the variants of Finn come out to help.
>just that the last two episodes prioritized the wrong things like Shermy and Beth felt like fanservice
I feel it was good getting to see them some more, but I can get how a few rewrites of those scenes could've led to them being shorter, which would've allowed them to prioritize more important shit.
I say over all it was good but it could have benefitted more from having an extra episode.
Marshall and Gary's relationship was nice and steady but it ate half of two episodes with unique worlds and if they just had an episode for themselves it wouldn't have been an issue.
The ending wasn't super rushed but Prismo's solution left a bad taste in my mouth. He could have brought anyone and decided to send in kids and a literal who. That plus the fact Jay and LD pretty much abandoned their old world was super retarded.
I forgot about Jay and LD.
It makes sense for LD to leave her shitty dad behind, but what the fuck Jay, didn't your dad die right in front of you? Who is taking care of your younger siblings in the shitty world you just left behind?
There's no way Farm Finn is dead, at some point we are going to get another glimpse of him and his family, sans Jay.
I didn't think it was rushed, just that the last two episodes prioritized the wrong things like Shermy and Beth felt like fanservice and the Scarab fight felt dragged out, not to mention they did not need to bring back the multiverse characters and suddenly just have them live in F&C's world. The ending did not feel as impactful or emotional as it could have been but what we got was fine.
I didn't mind the Shermy and Beth part, but the "You only picked the [Simon] options" and the consequences of which were very contrived. Like they knew what lesson they wanted Simon to learn and the method of teaching him, but couldn't come up with a good reason as to why his correct choices were actually the bad choices.
I think the point was just that if Simon had allowed Betty to take the reins for once in their decisions, like how it's implied by Casper and Nova that Betty apparently wanted to acquire a different artifact but Simon insisted on getting the crown, then the unfortunate downward spiral of their lives would have never happened in the first place.
But I don't think it condemns Simon, rather that their love was ironically doomed by the qualities that attracted them to each other in the first place (Simon's drive for magical artifacts and Betty's devotion to him). Betty says that they made their choices and that while they could have made better ones, she still doesn't regret her time with Simon even if they both have to ultimately move on at the end.
I haven't seen all the episodes yet but that sounds retarded
I think Simon realising his relationship wasn't as rosey as he thought it was made him reconsider the idea that his fuckups made his life worthless. He was unknowingly fucking up a ton before, but that relationship was still beautiful and meaningful. Silver linings and all that jazz.
It was pretty good overall.
Though I'm not sure why obly Cake remained magical in the end, even though other people were having the same magical dreams as Fionna and Cake.
Also, a lot of Gary and Marshall was added. I didn't hate it but it was obvious they were just there for shippers. I'm sure yaoifags were creaming themselves every time they were on screen, but it was a waste of time for me.
Fionna's arc, I don't know what the message was. Are they saying living in a magical world is bad because it's dangerous? Because yeah it is dangerous but if you were born in it, like she originally was, then she would be acclimated to it. Though I think the main message was "being an adult sucks but escaping into fantasy sucks worse." Which gets muddled a bit by the fact that the fantasy she wanted to escape to was how her world was before the magic was lost. I guess thinking about all that is that the message is "things change, move on" which is a fair message but it's also a bit shit to just tell people to accept this new shit reality and to get over the awesome magical one.
And you have a magical cat to remind you of the awesome magic world.
Just, weird messaging all around.
There was magic in the Adventure Time universe before the "modern age" and it didn't return until after the Mushroom War. So they do still live in a verse with alien, Mars people, and the giant skeleton of Conteppi was buried somewhere
I'd like to explore the Ooo apocalypse/post-apocalypse more, seems neat.
It was pretty cool but why is every cartoon and movie about the multiverse nowadays? Yes Adventure Time is old enough to have done it 10+ years ago, but it is cool to have the concept of a fanfiction universe trying to canonize itself in the universe
what if Finn was buff and hot and all the girls wanted to fuck m- I mean him?
What if he was still underage and all the princesses who tried to fuck him get cancelled?
women can't get canceled for fucking children anon
And who is going to cancel them? King of OOO? Why should fictional characters from a post apocalyptic fantasy world care about modern sensibilities?
I'm more of a Twink Finn fan if I'm honest
Season 2 WILL be about them and you WILL enjoy it.
No you don't understand they're not allowed to have magic in Fionna's world because they wouldn't be themselves even though they were all originally different magical people who had their identities robbed from them. No Ice Queen for you.
But what about the cat? She stayed magical.
Also some of the cosmic prisoners are living there now
Yeah that's the thing with Fionna's whole "I'd rather stay normal so we can all be ourselves and not lose our identities". They already did. Cake even said that her magical self IS her real self. Showrunners were stupid.
Posting this, if anyone want to revisit this thread.
Adventure Time? More like Dark Time
Just found Orbo was voiced by Bandit from Bluey, which certainly puts all the rape porn in a new light
Gimme Finn and Fionna being siblings.
I need more of that too
Huntress Wizard is canonically used goods and they split up because she wanted to become even MORE used goods first
Truly Finn died the way he lived: a betacuck whose crush fucks other men
Finn died the way he lived: painfully, in ways that don't really make sense.
Reminder that Fionna is proof that if Princess Bubblegum or Huntress Wizard got BLACKED in front of Finn then Finn would cuck out to her pathetically and simp for her every choice and still do whatever she says like a cuck and say how brave and amazing they are to fuck other men in front of him
Finn is canonically like this now
Huntress Wizard is like the carousel at a fair
Everyone in town has ridden it