>After eight seasons, four “sex change” surgeries, and countless hormone treatments, TLC’s I Am Jazz star Jazz Jennings still doesn’t feel right. “I don’t feel like me, ever,” Jennings revealed in a recent episode.
>Jazz Jennings, who was born a boy and declared himself transgender at the age of five, confessed feelings of dissatisfaction to his mother Jeanette. “I just want to feel like myself. All I want is to be happy and feel like me, and I don’t feel like me, ever,” Jazz said in the emotional exchange caught on camera.
>The current season follows Jazz’s severe weight gain and adventures in dating and romance. Now 22 years old and a student at Harvard University, the reality TV star has tried dating men but revealed he was attracted to a woman in the latest episode.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/03/15/trans-reality-star-jazz-jennings-not-satisfied-by-gender-affirming-procedures-i-dont-feel-like-me-ever/amp/
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This thing goes to Harvard?!
from Harvard's point of view, they get some liberal praise for accepting him, and then when he inevitably drops out it's not their fault. Pretty cynical.
What if he suicides on campus?
It would be an extremely tragic wake up call. The kind the world we live in right now desperately needs
homie it wouldn't be a wake up call for anyone, they would just blame transphobic bullying and advocate for online hate speech laws
Wouldn't his roommates get straight As then?
Students kill themselves all the time in ivy league institutions but the universities do not publish the data.
Jazz succeeds at proving people right. Jazz already does that because nobody has had it easier than he did at transitioning, having a family that supports it and they happen to be rich. He gets to slap the "minority" tag because he's israeli-- which means he can flip between white and israelite when convenient.
No troony has had it this easy, and Jazz is a complete mess.
there are enough diversity inclusions at Harvard that they probably do regularly make accommodations for those who are weaker academically. If they dropped the people they bring on for diversity reasons it would also look bad, and goes against their probably very real genuine ethos to include people in accordance with their beliefs and agenda
Ivy League schools don’t care about grades. It’s well known the courses themselves are piss easy because they need to pad the grades. There’s a few exceptions but getting into harvard is different than getting into harvard law school.
He thought it said Ham Yard
>he still thinks meritocracy exists, in college admissions of all things
Getting accepted at Harvard is 100% politics now
If it wasn’t, the school would be 70% Asian and 30% israeli
Respective to merit (high academically-performing students), whites are the most underrepresented and israelites are the most overrepresented
if you further remove the nepotism it would probably be ~%5 israeli
>70% Asian
The vast majority of engineers (among other actually useful things) are White.
She attended only a few classes, dropped out of all of them and only stays at campus when shes filming.
Other students said she has filmed on location more than actually sat in on a class. She is easy to spot since she has security and a camera crew with her at all times.
I noticed this on the I am Jazz forum, students saying she always had security and camera crew everyday. But on the show they acted like Jazz was having trouble finding security for her protest.
>she
the guy cut off his dick, Eunuch isn't a well known enough word to use
the cataclysm is almost upon us
finally
I support trans rights
I do not support Honey Boo Boo evil media nonsense
The real problem is systemic transphobia. The only way we can beat this is by educating the public and centering the trans voices in our community.
the real problem is that some people are pushing this shit into emotionally unstable people to the point that they believe there is something wrong with how they were born, and instead of helping these people to make them understand and accept themselves, we are instead pushing them into a situation that damages them.
trangenderism shouln't even been a thing, other than a symptom of a mental condition, a mental condition that should be treated eairly on life, by making the person feel comfortable with it's own natural body, instead of damaging themselves and then regreting the rest of their lives the damage they did to themselves.
I heard that something like 80% of "gender dysphoria" cases can be solved with talk therapies. These people need someone to talk to and to learn to be at peace within themselves, not a vacuum chamber and evil "gender affirming therapists" who will convince that what they're feeling is normal and the solution is hormones and surgery. It's so bonkers.
Probably. I’m sure I have some form of body issues. I hate myself and looking at myself. But once I hit about 25 I just decided to accept my lot in life and make the best of what I have. I might never like what I look like but at least I’ll dress myself up to the best it can and look presentable to others.
At the end of the day my appearance means frick all and even if I was a beautiful ideal form of myself it’s not like that’d change the other issues in my life or make me happy. I’d just be okay with taking selfies
It's pushed so hard because it's a eugenics / depopulation program. Also works as an ideological divide and conquer tactic
anon hormone therapy is a market worth tens of billions of dollars. Transpeople are usually pretty smart capable people too, outside of the things that hurt and drag them down. It's not eugenics, and it's not depopulation, because that doesn't make any sense. It's just money, and power
>Transpeople are usually pretty smart capable people too
You're out of your fricking mind. That is pure 100% 'well, Hitler wasn't all bad, he built the autobahn too' cope.
I don't think you like trans people enough to be objective about this. They are usually not dumb. Some of them can be totally evil people though. Narcissism and manipulation is not uncommon
That's obviously not all there is to it. Ed Gein is the skinning part. There is an intuitiveness to Buffalo Bill's character that simply wouldn't be gotten without some level of insight. Some aspects, at least. The identity instability cannot be ignored. That is literally what trans people are. The character is just if you took that and made him an Ed Gein. Why do you think he asked them if it would be reasonable for him to get sex reassignment surgery? He was already thinking about it.
He called because Clarice catches Bill by looking through surgery rejects at John Hopkins.
why would he be trying to get a surgery at Hopkins?
Bill was also a neat foil to Dolarhyde. Dolarhyde was the classic ‘Psycho’ type (wears grandma’s things to become more evil and powerful) - Bill did the similar action of wearing ‘womens things’ but his compulsion was to become something ‘better’ than he was. Identity instability is also a major theme in both Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs, so it reads more Harris’ writing style instead of some special insight to trans issues.
I think identity instability is a major theme to a lot of illnesses in general. The crazier side of humanity is rife with this sort of instability, because the roots of many of these disorders lie in manipulation and mirroring which is the result of a traumatized brain. I'd bet a big hundo Harris writes about this because he implicitly realizes this, perhaps because he experienced it himself. It is extremely common in creative types, and is a theme many naturally explore, and when you have a smart driven creative person exploring something, chances are they're going to arrive at some intuitively insightful conclusions. Buffalo Bill's character is a genuine insight, and honestly maybe Dolarhyde's too. Hell Will and Lecter can probably be lumped in there. This is because Harris was an insightful person, and it is reflected in his fictional writing. Not uncommon for very successful writers
Billy hates his own identity, you see, and he thinks that makes him a transsexual. - But his pathology is a thousand times more savage and more terrifying.
That’s the Hannibal Lecter angle. The issue tho is many people see a trans person and think the those are one and the same, pathologically savage and terrifying in the case of trans women and simple trauma response to oppression for trans men. Could Harris have recognized a link between trauma and being trans? If so it’s not new or revelatory (and better discussed with book Margot probably) What is a human being without trauma? How could a doctor help those with situations either inherited through genes or trauma? With treatments with the best results. if a cis woman has a disorder that is best treated by testosterone (either muscle elasticity issues, hormonal migraines, etc.) is she pathological for refusing that treatment because it would shape her body outside her gender presentation? I’m kinda word vomiting but I think it’s interesting.
That last part is a classic quandary with the ethics surrounding quality of life being the goal of medical treatment, absolutely. I think some of the subtler nuances surrounding this kind of question really do depend on the specific contexts you find it in. In the case of a woman denying testosterone therapy, it would impact her desirability quite clearly and there is the obvious and implicit understanding it would harm her social well-being. This goes almost without saying, but the question regarding how the same idea can be extended to include transexuals is far more nuanced. Is hormonal treatment for trans people really effective? If so, is it the hormone treatment itself and aligning their gender identity with what they believe it to be really the defining contribution here, or is it something else?
In the case of trans people I suspect it's the social support and emotional validation they are receiving from an increasingly robust apparatus catering to them that provides any improvement seen in probably the majority of individuals. I think the issue of dysphoria in general is probably a touchy one, actually. Do you really treat someone with an extreme form of distress surrounding their weight by catering to and encouraging their distorted views? Not typically. However that seems to be the norm in modern medical culture for transexuals. I don't see why gender dysphoria should be treated differently than anorexia or obsessive compulsions regarding specific aspects of appearance. Perhaps some of the underlying neurological/psychological causes are different, but it's nonsensical to cater to delusional thinking, even if you wish you could sympathetic. I know I am sympathetic to the trans plight, which is exactly why I don't think they should be allowed to become trans without roadblocks. Those roadblocks being eroded and in some cases not even being erected can only harm them
On the topic of weight - there are problems with morbid obesity outside of the social stigma (which I believe is brutal to an unjust degree). However, I don’t think anyone would claim being a woman or a man (even in ‘opposition’ to their sex) is somehow itself a problem - the impact is not medical, but wholly social. Human bodies are designed to thrive with either hormone so there really aren’t any meaningful complications. Most surgeries of any kind have rates of ‘regret.’ The only con to medically assisting a trans person is the impact to their social life. Many people who retransition do so not for themselves but a lack of support - many people don’t have the courage to transition because a lack of support. IMO, if there is a treatment that helps a patient, the perceived stigma should not have to factor into what a doctor can provide.
Also I conflated weight issues with obesity - yeah anorexia will straight up just kill you - that’s why it’s not encouraged.
All good character writing contains an arc where the protagonist becomes self actualized. Having self confused antagonists will always work well. Reminds me too of how Mads loves playing Hannibal precisely because he knows exactly who and what he is and loves himself for it - why he makes such a good mentor character.
Hitler tried to stop the anglo menace
>Transpeople are usually pretty smart capable people too
Not him, but saying it doesn't make sense is disingenuous or ignorant of you. There are billionaires who have talked about depopulation being part of their agenda talking constantly about how the world has an overpopulation crisis and SOMETHING needs to be done. Suddenly there are massive influxes of trannies and LGBT propaganda which wasn't a huge thing until Lady Gaga became a thing out of nowhere and every other form of pop music followed suit along with Hollywood and all of that shit combined with the weird sudden influx of people no longer vaccinating their kids because of autism and then the term antivaxxer being coined JUST BEFORE A GLOBAL PANDEMIC OVER A NOTHINGBURGER VIRUS. There's likely a conspiracy towards depopulation anon. Anyway if there is it's just good to have respect and think of all of those people who fricking died because they destroyed their bodies after being brainwashed whether by jab or castration. In the next few years they'll dial back on both things and it won't be too noticeable, people will just remember it as a fad where nothing bad happened.
I also feel bad bringing fricking vaccine politics into a /jazz/ thread, so I'm sorry about that, believe what you want to believe
It doesn't make sense because it's stupid and ineffective. If someone was diabolical and motivated enough to start killing off the population and reducing the rate of reproduction they wouldn't be doing it by turning men into women lmao. I genuinely don't want to be snarky here, but are you aware that reducing the amount of men in the reproductive pool by less than 1% doesn't change the amount of women having sex and having babies at all? It doesn't make logical sense from any kind of perspective, anon. I don't care about the truthfulness or veracity behind depopulation conspiracies. Applying that conspiracy to trans people just doesn't make any sense
If by "smart capable people", you mean "can hold a job and willingly part with expendable income to fulfill their autogynaphilia"
Trans people are just exploited by the pharmaceutical industry and society alike
many of them are not functional. That is not the opposite of what I meant. I am stating outright the average IQ of transpeople is probably above average, even taking into account they probably have systemic mental deficits due to trauma like poor attention, memory, and concentration.
in fact simply because it was so easy I will prove to you what I already knew, because I was being honest.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3811285
transpeople are smart. The same underlying vulnerabilities that they have that make them mentally ill are probably themselves correlated with intelligence or at the very least sensitivity, which would also be correlated with intelligence.
I hope this gives you an appreciation that these are sensitive intelligent people, not soulless monsters hellbent on raping your kids. Many of them are simply mentally ill and need cohesive mental health treatment, treatment they are NOT receiving because it's being buried under opportunistic nonsense from the political left and a modern medical apparatus that profits off of them to the tune of billions of dollars
you're getting flak for this but you're right in that trannies are "smart" as in they're usually autistic weirdos good with tech and computers, that's why it's basically a community of greasy terminally online social media addicts that know how to DDoS any site that says "harmful" things about them. but they're emotionally and socially moronic in most cases and don't realize that they're repulsive and hard to be around. it's like if furries had the full force of progressive politics behind them bullying society into accepting them.
>drink poison
>go blind and frick most of your organs up
>conclude that drinking twice as much poison would have prevented this bad outcome
Troll post or not, there is an incredible number of leftlings that think exactly in this way.
Or, now bear with me here, most transgender people are just confused.
great bait mate
This guy gets it. I think we need to bring more trans voices into schools so they can participate in 1-on-1 body positivity and gender affirmation lessons with the children, in private safe spaces of course.
Obvious Bait
that's because these poor people are just traumatized and abused people with borderline personality disorder or some other kind of disorder resulting from pervasive trauma that makes their identities unstable. This was literally first implied to be the case in Silence of the Lambs, where Lecter notably strongly implied that the transexual serial killer character wasn't REALLY transgender at all; he was simply trying to be something else, something he was not, in an attempt to establish a stable identity and feel self acceptance. People have KNOWN THIS FOR
DECADES
AND NOBODY
EVER
HIT THE BRAKES
STOPPED THE WHEELS
AND NOW THOUSANDS OF SUFFERING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SUFFER EVEN WORSE AT THE HANDS OF MODERN MEDICAL SCIENCE AND CYCNICAL PHARMA PRACTICES SPECIFICALLY CREATED TO ABUSE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.
THESE PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED AND HURT AND PHARMA COMPANIES AND POLITICAL PARTIES ARE USING THEM AS PAWNS. THEY ARE BEING USED
Bruv, Hannibal Lecter isn’t real and Thomas Harris is a pulp thriller writer. You don’t live in a movie - your memories aren’t foreshadowing.
It's an uncannily accurate depiction of the exact mental illness obviously shown here. I only include it as a poignant example that shows how early people were aware of the exact nature of the illness underlying transexuality. I actually independently came to the same conclusion and had to be reminded that mine wasn't even an original observation; it was made over 30 years by a writer offhandedly. I am actually curious to explore the background of this awareness because obviously it didn't come out of a vacuum. As I stated and implied in my post, it has been known a very, very long time and came into cultural awareness previously, or should have. It was simply ignored
Thank you for trying to gaslight me, I will be reporting you to the transphobia police. I'm trans btw
Good luck with that. I am also trans and my cousin is the chief of the trans police.
Thomas Harris does research, that's all. He called up John Hopkins and asked if it would have been reasonable for someone like Ed Gein to get sex reassignment surgery and they told him he wouldn't pass the psych eval, so that's how he developed the character.
>THEY ARE BEING USED
Of course they are. When it comes to politics they are useful idiots just like a vast majority of black folks.
Totally right. Liberal democrats and pharma are treating people like cows they can perform morbid vivisection on for experiment and the fricking pc seals clap like mindless drones while believing they are humanitarian and sympathetic.
Grim if true
Thank you for the analysis. Tell me how many years did you do clinical training so that you were able to surpass the observations and analysis of actual psychiatrists who have literally spent decades treating 'emotionally unstable people' yet somehow were unable to detect greedy pharma execs unable to make money on the gazillions of obsese or painkiller addicted patients and instead chose to engineer a grand conspiracy ensnaring the .5% - 1.6% of adults who identify as transgender with massive social stigma and public fallout for those who choose to do hormone therapy or surgery. Clearly Big Pharma is too stupid to make money off of Viagra or breast implants or any of the numerous unnecessary vanity treatments western youths indulge in and instead must target the LGBT population who are just too stupid not to fall for their obvious lies
lol, excuse you
We are inherently social creatures and social well-being and overall acceptance from others is simply not something that can be ignored. Transitioning just affects how other people see you man. When especially the basis for transgenderism doesn't even itself come from gender dysphoria, employing treatments to re-align someone's gender doesn't even make any sense.
Consider the comorbidity between cluster b personality disorders and transgenderism. Do you really think it's a coincidence that these disorders would be so highly represented in transgender people? Could it be that, maybe, it is not gender dysphoria connecting these threads together, but a common susceptibility to influence to their identity and a desire to change who they are to better fit other people's expectations? Why then, would you treat them in a way that falls into this line of thinking, when the end result is almost inevitably even LESS acceptance and an inability to live up to the unreasonable standard of becoming the opposite gender?
Might not these people be better served by treating their underlying distortions about themselves and given meaningful social support that does NOT depend on the influenced expectations placed upon them by themselves or others?
There’s the conflict tho right? Trans people aren’t monolithic. I would guess that there are far more trans people that will never and may never have interest in transitioning at all than those who do. The people getting the medical assistance right now tend to be those who need it to keep them alive - and will thus likely be over represented with things like personality disorders/depression/etc. as those treatments are being found to help them, more people are talking about their own dissatisfaction with the enforcement of gender as an expression of physical sex. There is a cultural shift happening similar to how we no longer attach evilness to being left handed. It’s also like any other technology these days. How do you define gender when we have the technology to alter sex like how do we define capitalism when we have the technology to no longer labor? As we all swim in this shit I’m of the opinion we leave that to whoever is seeking care and whoever is offering it over a clutch at social tranquility. This got real meta.
>there’s totally no money or lobbies behind it anon, it’s all organic!
gaslighting aside, a good liberal feminist who supports transgender rights followed the money and got her article banned as hate speech. for any anons who found your obfuscation convincing:
https://suedonym.substack.com/p/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq?s=r
Reading her shit reminds me of "former" communists. They realize one thing but can't see the 50 other obvious things attached to it. She likes to slip in all sorts of bullshit. Funny that it was taken off medium its got everything those guys like, I guess except noticing the trans shit is big business.
>unable to detect
oh, they were able to detect them.
they were signing their checks.
>instead
you mean do both. and why wouldn't they?
false dichotomy, textbook. they easily can and do both at once.
Thank you for the analysis. Tell me how many years did you do clinical training so that you were able to surpass the observations and analysis of actual psychiatrists who have literally spent decades treating 'emotionally unstable people' yet somehow were unable to detect greedy pharma execs unable to make money on the gazillions of obsese or painkiller addicted patients and instead chose to engineer a grand conspiracy ensnaring the .5% - 1.6% of adults who identify as transgender with massive social stigma and public fallout for those who choose to do hormone therapy or surgery. Clearly Big Pharma is too stupid to make money off of Viagra or breast implants or any of the numerous unnecessary vanity treatments western youths indulge in and instead must target the LGBT population who are just too stupid not to fall for their obvious lies
I am parroting the observations and analyses of the people who came before me, if anything. Nothing I am saying here is new, and the first post I made in this thread, that you are replying to, states that it has been known for quite some time. Why you would repeat your post as if to hammer the point home, I don't know. Please do not make me post any studies to support my points. I am not going to do that. If you happen to be trans, please talk to your therapist about self acceptance and acquiring social support outside of the context of being trans. I don't care if you are trans, but I believe you would be better served if you developed an identity outside of it. That is simply my opinion.
This,
I was put on an array of different drugs now my head is fricked beyond salvation
And I’m sure there’s millions just like me
Good. Sow chaos. Crash the system. Humanity deserves to be exterminated.
>Sow chaos
>be chewed up and spit out by the system
>only way out is suicide
Bit depressing
anyone have a link to the episode?
>revealed he was attracted to a woman in the latest episode
So it's a live action Mr Garrison?
>his
>he
yikes
It’s disgusting that his parents forced him into this
Now he’s got a dead end life with very few options
He could work at a circus
as an elephant
> I Chawped ma cawk off at haavad yaad
>the reality TV star has tried dating men but revealed he was attracted to a woman in the latest episode.
IT'S NOT AL ANYMORE
>I dont feel like me
You don't live life to find yourself, you live life to create yourself
>a student at Harvard University
how the frick? a gifted student?
harvard has nothing to do with achievement and everything to do with victimhood status
No, provably moronic.
well I'm sure it's just an isolated case
Emergency/jazz/ thread?
i will give shirtless sander a tongue bath
LOOKS LIKE /jazz/ IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS!
Is that Steven Tyler on the left?
>breitbart
Imagine the sort of person who reads shirty clickbait like this every single day
imagine being trans
No thanks. I'm not obsessed with 0.6% of the population like you are.
>knows the percentage of population that is trans off by heart
>not obsessed
>implying the /misc/ half of Cinemaphile isn't completely obsessed with trannies
Anyone who posts here knows the statistics because you homosexuals never shut up about them.
Weak.
You know it's true.
I know that trannies and the /misc/ boogeyman live rent free in your head. I also know you're quite boring to talk to. You can get the last word now, I'm done.
>I'm done.
I accept your concession
What's with this moronic reddit talking about? Trannies are shoved into the public limelight every which way possible, but apparently you're wrong for not ignoring some butch moron swirling nipple tassels an inch from your face.
> Trannies are shoved into the public limelight every which way possible
No they aren't, you purposely seek them out so you have something to feel outraged about. I would never hear about trannies at all if I didn't come here.
Then maybe you should frick off from here forever then, homosexual.
>No they aren't
Correct
>I would never hear about trannies at all if I never came here
Everyone to the right of Steve Bannon is a libtard to you people, thus why you unironically believe Breitbart headlines
>Everyone to the right of Steve Bannon is a libtard to you people, thus why you unironically believe Breitbart headlines
Not even close. It's just libtards like you who are libtards
>Correct
I fricking wish. Their pronoun shit is fricking everywhere. TV, vidya, movies and even out in the open. Hell when Bruce Jenner did it the entire media got fricking mogged by his ugly ass. When I worked retail I'd see one of these freaks throwing a shitfit every other week because "muh transphobia"
I can hardly go to the bookstore to pick up a gift for my cousins kids without seeing a dozen troony/gender lunacy coloring books.
These circus freaks are supposed to live and die in obscurity where they belong.
Such obvious libtard gaslighting
>watching umbrella academy
>surprise troony! Oh you thought there was some lgb representation? Naw lesbians are just trans in denial lmao
>watch Sabrina
>haha troony friend
>play vidya
>that cute boy is now trans
>have a gay black stripper grinding on the camera followed by multiple trans reveals and a new trans legend!
Yeah totally not shoved in my face.
And that’s before
>btw anon new training for everyone. Watch this video making sure you know how to respect peoples pronouns or you’re fired.
At least they aren't as gullible as libtards
The /jazz/ threads were fricking great but I haven't seen one in a while.
Did Sander end up sucking the girldick or did chocolate Shrek ad some stuffin to his muffin?
he got gangbanged by peppermint and some of her girlfriends i thought
Sanders got PLUMBED out baby
bigdickbitch.com!
He's got a real gf now they just went to Hawaii together
He dodged one hell of a meat bullet then. Too bad his dignity died years ago.
Wait, he has a female girlfriend with a real, God given vegana?
/notgay/ bros, we won.
>Sander Bloshinsky... the man who crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side.
He listened to us I like to think
>i don't feel like me
That's because he's still trying to be the opposite gender
not that i think the troony shit is helping anything but his real problem is his insane munchie pageant mom whoring him to the media since before fricking grade school
everyone involved in every aspect of tlc should be shot directly into the sun
> realizes he likes women
> Doesn't have a dick to frick them with anymore
This shit went from a comedy to a tragedy.
It'll be a comedy again when he kills his mother and blows his own brains out
Now's the part where Jazz either commits suicide or lives to stop the Jeanettes of the world
I don't believe this is an article by a mainstream outlet because even the most right wing of normiecore publications wouldn't commit the unforgivable sin of "misgendering" that obese troon.
Start the countdown.
>attention prostitute troony remains attracted to women
imagine my shock
>revealed he was attracted to a woman in the latest episode.
Nature always goes undefeated
>It's another troony-tries-to-argue-with-/jazz/-episode.
When will they learn?
I hope she snaps and kills her adopted israelite parents and stepbro
Holy shit the final season being a detransition season would be legendary
>final scene fades to black
>words appear... "I am Jaron"
>sound of shotgun being readied
>credits over silence
>Final scene isn't "Kyoto" playing over Jaron gunning down his parents in slow motion
Sticky tape it back on, good as new.
>Jaron's Awakening Arc is about to begin.
Where did the penis go? Did they slice it and peel it back?
It's a series of compromises, really
When's the I WAS JAZZ special coming out?
He's gonna kill himself life on camera isn't he.
Whoa who would've thought that permanently mutilating yourself before your brain finishes developing is a bad idea?!
>Bad Ending
Jazz attempts suicide but fails. After seeing multiple doctors, he ends up in a mental health institution where they just pump him full of drugs
>Normal Ending
Jazz successfully kills himself, his suffering ends
>Good Ending
Jazz decides to throw everything away and becomes a buddhist monk
Looking at the original video it seems pretty normal but still heartbreaking
Honestly I feel bad as an AGP
I don't pass well at all but having started HRT much later than she did I didn't have any expectations, I never expected myself to pass flawlessly and I knew I was always going to be a bit of a freak and yeah, I feel like shit often but I'm generally ok
Meanwhile Jazz has had her entire life broadcast on television and for what reason? She probably thinks she's helping trans people by normalising them but I have a feeling her parents are trying to abuse her for all the money they can get
Honestly the whole thing is sickening
It always made me guilty when I talked to my friend who passed far better than I ever could irl become extremely depressed and I'd ask her what she's upset about and she'd refuse to say because she thought the kind of blackpills she's thinking about would hurt me
if you’re going to be a bit of a freak, what’s the appeal? will trying with no chance make you feel more yourself? how far do you plan to take it medically? what are your long term goals?
Child actors are bad enough. Signing up your child to be a celebrity over something so personal and sensitive like gender affirmation treatments is fricking outrageous to me. You can’t expect a good psychological outcome by broadcasting your daughter’s entire medical history.
Personally one thing that really killed me was when I came out to cis people who were overly supportive but only in the most superficial ways
It felt like I had so many expectations about the way I was supposed to act and look and it made me become very depressed
I can't imagine how it must feel like for Jazz
Has she ever talked about what it's like to get recognised in public?
What's wrong with being a freak?
I've never considered myself to be a normal person and the drive to conform has just never been all that strong in me aside from the time I mention above
I just want to do my own thing
Anyway maybe I'm a bit strange but I see myself as being my soul and my body is just something else, so transitioning wasn't about feeling like myself because I already felt like myself (as my own soul)
She’s trapped too where, imagine if she wanted to dress in a gender non conforming way - if she showed up somewhere in pants no makeup or even cut her hair? The articles that would be written. No one should be in that position.
It grates me when ppl say stuff like trans ppl are pathological and just trying to conform to expectations of others! They should become healthy and just conform to my and greater society’s expectations instead!
Yeah I had that exact thought as well
If she showed up to college with tracksuits and a hoodie she'd probably be seen as detransitioning
let’s not play games, you wouldn’t describe it as “being a bit of a freak” if you weren’t conveying it as a negative. i asked why you want to be something you view negatively.
Then what is transitioning about for you? that’s also what I asked.
Sounds like self actualization outside of societal approval. A goal for some after high school.
self actualization has nothing to do with deliberately acting contrary to societal expectations, that’s called rebellious behavior, which is highschool behavior. It’s something that has nothing to do with treating societal standards as an authority to either reject or embrace. it also often involves embracing certain standards for both practicality and a mature appreciation from understanding the reason behind particular standards.
you tried to act patronizing while ignoring the questions, but just outed yourself as stunted.
Ooh stunted. One can act deliberately outside society’s structure for reasons others than simple rebellion. In fact, one can rebel for reasons outside of simple rebellion. I was saying they obviously value something other than what others think about them - which is yeah - self actualizing.
>. I was saying they obviously value something other than what others think about them - which is yeah - self actualizing.
Yet they're referring to their transition in negative terms, which is not self actualizing. Referring to themselves as a freak also pretty clearly shows they are influenced by others perception of them.
I’m also not the person you asked -they are wiser than me apparently
And this is with all the money, family, and medical support you could possibly acquire.
If Jazz can't make it work under perfect conditions, can anyone?
TLC (freak show) series for whole transition = perfect conditions. Bro what.
I assumed her parents were rich and she only became famous because she got SRS at such a young age
>She is easy to spot since she has security and a camera crew with her at all times
Jesus
lololololololololol can't wait to see how this ends up.
He's just a gay man with body dysmorphic disorder. Psychiatrists and transvestites have convinced and entire generation of autists to mutilate themselves.
it’s more often than not straight guys transitioning, actually. and trans women are usually hostile to gay men. they’re something else entirely.
If you don't feel like your body belongs to you,.sorry you don't have gender dysphoria you have autism. Autism causes mind body disassociation, there is no such thing as a woman trapped in a man's body.
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>attracted to a woman
What too much money and attention does to a motherfricker
ALL TRANNIES MUST FRICKING HANG!
How soon is the inevitable suicide?
Do you think this guy ran away so he could become a troony?
>All these newbies coming in and pretending they know /jazz/
>Meanwhile any regular on /jazz/ has known this was going to be a fricking trainwreck since the pop
Reading this thread is hilarious because you can tell the trans defenders have never watched the insanity that is the show.
Just watching the show itself, you can see how fricked up the situations is
>"Jazz is sure she wants surgery, she isn't depressed, she doesn't have any other disorder"
>Post surgery she is depressed and miserable
>"Oh it wasn't because of the surgery, Jazz has struggled with depression and mental illness her whole life, its unrelated to her being transgender... honest"
NO REFUNDS!