After practicing how do i know whats mising from my 5000 hour bouncing ball and since its diffwrent from the popular trending art how do i indentify e...

After practicing how do i know whats mising from my 5000 hour bouncing ball and since its diffwrent from the popular trending art how do i indentify each individual thing and improve them? Like how do i know if it is improvement than a decrease? Certainly more than just practicing one same muscles and its about identifying problems but it s ok if u dont kno since marvel or dc fan dont exactly make asuccessful writer

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    post work and let others judge.
    the only progress you will see is being able to make the same thing faster and efficiently. want to make it look better? add more frames to make it smoother or edit existing frames to make it more expressive like warping and speed lines or ground dust anyway to show that visually shows that ball is bouncing or give the ball different perspectives and camera angles. give the ball a shadow give it 2 shadows with 2 section spot lights. give the ball shading as it bouncing further or closer to a lightsource

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What if you dont get crits at all and no traffic either cuz it s too ugly or too niche and you have to go figure yourself

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you enjoy what you do then dont give up and keep going. do it for yourself not for others.
        if youre making animation for attention you're going to have a bad time.

        wanna go down that route? go make meme shit or coom shit.
        no one will ever respect your art the way you want them to and it will be impossible to try doing anything else other than what you themed your public image to be.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not really i followed alchemani*c and he had great time following whatever is trending
          Or generally we all have great time when the number s in and i never had it good with some 200 pageviews only
          >meme
          >coom
          >Respect
          What fuck man. I think you are gettjng so very derailed. It s just about how to make a good nike shoes that sells because you need to close the sales like everybody
          You sound like a wacko, pls dont continue this route

          Also not all memers get bucks just look at facebook or 9gag loser exists in any spectrum just like there are dumb worthless hentai that even the creator dont like and doesnt sell anyway

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Its just about how to make a good nike shoes that sells because you need to close the sales like everybody
            sure but you are more than likely to make connections and get your worked shared in a more serious manner if you do self projects and not just catch the latest flavor of the month thing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              ...thats against everyone s usual advice of "do fan art" to get connection or do disney thing to get noticed by disney...
              Clearly this is amess... i think something that uniformly summarize the right choices is in place. Isnt there at least a way to measure by yourself that your work is up to the things without being a massive copy since artists go up on stage not gettinf pointers everysingle damn second which ofc is a talent which then boils into "what is the good stuff" and the backbone of their decision making??? Something that will also affect fan art or self project, that is "being good"? Surely this has guideline otherwise it ll be just a flavour of the month thing which then makes it easier for everyone but rarely so since ms paint stuff just dont get it and somw heavily rendered daz too

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post your art so we can constructively criticize. I pretty much never see twitter artists give actual constructive criticism, let alone ask for it, so you prob won't find the answers you're looking for there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dont want your one two crits because
      >twitter artist
      ..as you said, so it seems like a more mechanical thing in quality than human approach... and since it s definitely theorethical and logics i thought co would know

      Do you? Seems almost like a micro thing ì forgot to reas or something, like the general thing right below all the grunt rendering needed to be done

      Obv one can just be unlucky and presses the wrong button with too much energy and loses instead but there are rule to good and bad and nepotics are shunned so it seems just right that "the way" exist than shortcuts and...handshakes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't want other people's input on what you may be doing wrong, then that's probably part of your problem here.
        It is obviously best to be able to accurately gauge your improvement on your own but, unfortunately, we're human and our perceptions are prone to multifactored distortion.
        You either care what people think about your art or you don't. If you don't, I'm not sure what you're really asking for advice with here

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again with the advice. Fucking hell. I certainly wasnt asking for advice. It's an idea. A solution. A method. A technique.
          A calculation. A self service way to make good...regardless of this "distortions" of perceptions or whatever because it is the solution that decides, a rigid math.

          So please, for god fucking christ sake, dont wise up on me because i didnt ask for ADVICE. Never did. You either know how to solve your own art against the market, or you dont. Nobody asked for critiques. And this applies to everysinglefuckig Cinemaphilener who thinks im asking for a fucking SPlinter to their ninja turtles. NO,sorry. Much appreciated.

          Please stay on the track of the topic..or feel free to sage and close.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You asked for advice, got advice, didn't like it, threw a fit. The solution you want probably doesn't exist.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read again. IT's not a fuckin advice. You were the one who went on along thinking this is some advuce thread. Everything you said is not along my goddamn line of interest as thwyre all your unreliable opinions that is no where close to industry standards nor are they technically valid.

              Sorry to break your egg, but your "advices" here is not asked for since beginning.But i guess you like to think i need your lengthy, unproven ideas too.

              Please rest assured, no critiques to your "advices"... it s just not asked for.
              Now please continue this in a more orderly, methodical scientifically proven model of data analysis, or please just sage and leave.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Now please continue this in a more orderly, methodical scientifically proven model of data analysis, or please just sage and leave.

                Yeah, there is no such thing, what's appealing to some people isn't appealing to others. A sketched animation might look messy but win over people by how gestural and expressive it is. Others might like something polished but soulless. What progress is depends on what you're after and who you're asking.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Also nobody asked for advice: i never asked "what do i need to do" but i guess you barely do english like the rest of these "oh im so wise heres the advice yoh asks" here

              Sincerwst apology.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody asked for advice

                https://i.imgur.com/OgxwNPF.gif

                After practicing how do i know whats mising from my 5000 hour bouncing ball and since its diffwrent from the popular trending art how do i indentify each individual thing and improve them? Like how do i know if it is improvement than a decrease? Certainly more than just practicing one same muscles and its about identifying problems but it s ok if u dont kno since marvel or dc fan dont exactly make asuccessful writer

                >whats mising
                >how do i indentify
                >how do i know

                Get the fuck out

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Crying so hard. Keep it up

                Ok friend, after reading all of your posts, I think you're very mistaken about the nature of art as a whole. Through your barely-coherent English, it seems to me that you think you can "solve" art, that there is some solid baseline for what all art should be that you can test yourself against and model yourself after in order to become good, successful, or popular. The truth of the matter is that there is no such thing, and no one in this thread, on this site, or through the vast scope of the internet can tell you what you should do because none of us know what you WANT to do. Art of all kinds can be very popular or very lucrative, from highly technical renders to 3 second doodles. Which do you want to do? They each require very different skillsets. You want to know what makes someone else's art good? Decide it for yourself.

                Of course, you need to train your eyes first to see what exactly composes a drawing, and there is no way to learn that other than through rigorous practice. Learn how humans work, how the world works, and interpret it as you see fit. You can teach yourself. /ic/ has a multitude of resources you can use. Critique is also helpful when people can see things you can't, it sort of teaches you how to see properly.

                Art is not a commodity. It is not something you can always deliver a solid product on. That's why we have shitty movies from big studios: it's all based on opinion. You WILL make bad art. If you want to make less bad art, then the only answer is practice more. There is no analysis you can do to make it better. Just keep drawing.

                tl;dr: post your work or get the FUCK out

                >barely english
                >everything can be succesful
                Why are you here then mr. I can be successful too by spillingthe same shit

                Don't engage with this guy seriously. He does this every now and then here and on other boards. It's the same pattern of asking for some shortcuts to get successful quick and then lashing out at anyone who dares to be helpful.

                that nobody needs past elementary? Maybe yer just cowering behind him cuz you just wanna be affirmed no matter what? Applaudable but maybe yer just avoiding the legwork.
                >seeing
                >critique
                Clearly there is nothing to see here. Everything is all $uccessful to you... just politics and orders you miss. Just work-whatever-hard and you ll get there. It s like yer the market.

                >not a commodity
                >shitty movies
                >all based on opinion
                Arent you all full of contradiction. If its ALL just based on opinion, then it doesnt matter if it is good or not to begin with. But the opinion IS BASED on the movie, so there are good and bad movie.

                Why do you have to keep spouting things that you dont even understand, only

                Don't engage with this guy seriously. He does this every now and then here and on other boards. It's the same pattern of asking for some shortcuts to get successful quick and then lashing out at anyone who dares to be helpful.

                knows i guess. Almost the same caliber of oh-im-so-smart-pls-sage-me.

                >it doesnt exist
                Then Cinemaphile doesnt exist. All hentai is good. Even my opinion is good then
                But you are angry so its not all good isnt it? Maybe youare the one who missed the hard work..hard thinking. Pardon for pushing you beyond limits.

                Don't engage with this guy seriously. He does this every now and then here and on other boards. It's the same pattern of asking for some shortcuts to get successful quick and then lashing out at anyone who dares to be helpful.

                especially... i thought you all got the strength. Guess not.

                >fuck off
                Yeah just making sure yer all still here.
                Yep. You are.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok friend, after reading all of your posts, I think you're very mistaken about the nature of art as a whole. Through your barely-coherent English, it seems to me that you think you can "solve" art, that there is some solid baseline for what all art should be that you can test yourself against and model yourself after in order to become good, successful, or popular. The truth of the matter is that there is no such thing, and no one in this thread, on this site, or through the vast scope of the internet can tell you what you should do because none of us know what you WANT to do. Art of all kinds can be very popular or very lucrative, from highly technical renders to 3 second doodles. Which do you want to do? They each require very different skillsets. You want to know what makes someone else's art good? Decide it for yourself.

    Of course, you need to train your eyes first to see what exactly composes a drawing, and there is no way to learn that other than through rigorous practice. Learn how humans work, how the world works, and interpret it as you see fit. You can teach yourself. /ic/ has a multitude of resources you can use. Critique is also helpful when people can see things you can't, it sort of teaches you how to see properly.

    Art is not a commodity. It is not something you can always deliver a solid product on. That's why we have shitty movies from big studios: it's all based on opinion. You WILL make bad art. If you want to make less bad art, then the only answer is practice more. There is no analysis you can do to make it better. Just keep drawing.

    tl;dr: post your work or get the FUCK out

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't engage with this guy seriously. He does this every now and then here and on other boards. It's the same pattern of asking for some shortcuts to get successful quick and then lashing out at anyone who dares to be helpful.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah...the prized "im so angry that i am not right and i need to be affirmed". Got you loser out here... guess your "practice" kept you here huh. Maybe learn to study. Dont skip your anatomies... but i guess you "worked too hard" already

      Wish i can filter you only but the mods prefer your "spirited" evasion of anything too complicated

      Sayo fucking nara to you above all

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's the /ic/fag. i knew it was him when he didn't post his work. how did he get back?

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