After watching stranger things, will loads of normies start playing DND only to realise it’s another fan base they can frick up?
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After watching stranger things, will loads of normies start playing DND only to realise it’s another fan base they can frick up?
It's already happened according to /tg/
Doesn't affect me though, I have no friends
Doubtful, it has too much of an entry barrier for normies to try that hard.
DnD is unironically the most normie shit one can be involved in these days. I’ve tried it twice and both times the people I tried to play with were so fricking unbearable. Just losers who took out their frustrations by larping as a Druid or some gay shit. The type of people who would kick you out for rolling a racist character. And don’t get me started on “theater of the mind” these people suck.
>rolling a racist character.
Do thin-wristed small-wienered wytebois really
Only troonys and homosexuals don't roll up a dwarf that calls orcs piggers.
Cry moar faygit
>will
D&D has been full of normies since Critical Role got popular in the 2016-2017 podcast boom.
Holy newbie. All of fantasy rpgs have been destroyed since the LOTR movies came out, moron.
Don't post if you don't know.
Give me 1 billion LoTR fans over any critial role one. I prefer "I surf on top of a shield with my archer elf" than "my half tiefling, half dragon, half celestial pop bard warlock and they/them pet flump are spending 3 hours talking to the opressed goblin bandit we just captured"
HOLY COPING BABYLET! Ever since AD&D was released all of the SOVL left RPGs
adnd is what gave RPGs soul you quadBlack person
bet you play wizard elfs
being a boomer I had to look that up
>critical role
>is like every other friends simulator on youtube
I don't think people play games themselves
just like the other make belief friendship youtube content the audience is the people who don't engage in that activity because they lack a social circle
I'd say at best 5% of their viewerbase has a game night group going
Having made the mistake of trying to find games online, the vast majority of new players flowing into the hobby are teenage zoomies.
Last game I joined had a male dm (nerd in his 20's who just discovered tabletop) and 5 girls, all either fat, dangerhair or asian, all insufferably sjw.
I was there for 1 session, felt like an old man trying to connect with little kids despite being younger than half the players
nah you open up tindr and see tons of like marvel fans etc playing dnd. or saying they do ig
I’ve been a part of two groups that started up a game but then it always fizzles out around session five. I like the game but can only get that hit second hand I guess. I’m scared to try with online randos, what if there’s channers there?
Zooms don’t have the attention span, anon. It’s probably the one thing they don’t have the capacity to ruin.
critical role destroyed pen and paper RPGs a long time ago already
>start
i have some bad news anon...
dnd has been dead for 15 years at least.
At least it’s one of those things that true normies will tire of quickly and move on to the next Thing That Makes Them Special and Cool. When you find people you enjoy playing with for the right reasons it’s a good way to bond/ kill an unreasonable amount of time.
>dnd has been dead for 15 years at least.
Aren't you generous. It's been well over 20, if not 25 years.
He did say, "at least." You're correct though, D&D died sometime in 2nd edition so you could argue that the switch to 2e killed it.
I find DnD boring.
Well the show started over 5 years ago so if it hasn't happened by now it never will.
My dad stopped watching this shit when they started playing DND, people didn't have multi-racial groups of friends and play this stuff. You were considered a complete freak if you were into this stuff.
I mean, they are considered complete freaks in-universe for playing D&D. That's literally the main premise of season 4. Do you even watch the show?
>A heaping of righteous oppression for being le epic nerds
It's normalgay self insert fantasy
>My dad stopped watching this shit when they started playing DND
Wasn't that the opening scene of the first episode of the first season?
What does your dad think of his Cinemaphile-posting son?
The first episode of the entire series opens with a multi-racial group of kids playing DnD.
You probably don't even know your dad, homosexual.
Anyone else really like the new season of stranger things? I think it's the best season so far.
I think it’s good except for the Russia plot which fricks with the pacing and halts the plot
They absolutely fricked themselves by having Hopper teleport to Russia
Just have him be dead ffs
IMO the Russia subplot was one of the best parts. The worst part is the stuff with Mike and Will (although the firefight at the house was kino).
the stuff happening in Hawkins is pretty good. The other side stories feel like completely pointless filler. Especially Hopper in Russia and the irrelevant/sidelined characters on their road trip to visit Dustin's girlfriend.
the eddie character is so cringe
He's literally me.
>filtered by eddie
Second best, behind the first by a significant margin.
Good characters, terrible pacing. pretty good overall, not better than S1
Really like the antagonist in this season, it feels much more like a stephen king novel
It's really good if you proverbially "turn your brain off". The aesthetic, the heart, the acting, the thrills are there. HOWEVER
Half the characters have nothing to do.
Name one thing Will, Jonathan, Nancy, Steve, Lucas, Winona Ryder have done this season. Hardmode: you can't say "tag along".
Hopper has his own things, ok, but it's a massive slog.
>Winona Ryder
oh boy
https://imgur.com/d51F40J
Milky milky milk!
This season has
1. Steve: become the team dad since Hopper’s no longer atriums
2. Nancy: become team mom and leader since Joyce and Mike aren’t around.
3. Joyce: going to rescue Hopper just like Leia rescuing Shan in Return of the Jedi.
4. Lucas: Deal with the human bully jocks who are misguided about The cause of the deaths. He has to fight those guys alone in the upcoming episodes. Also he’s the anchor for his ex-girlfriend who is being victimized by the big bad.
Will: deal with his internal sexual issues. Reconciling them and upcoming outing himself. Will’s sexuality plot has been building since season 1.
Jonathan: dealing with not being with a Nancy. Realizing they’re headed in different directions. Overcoming his stoner habits because now the shit has hit the fan. Trying to get to Hawkins because Nancy could become a victim.
it peaked with season 1.
Stranger thing were always a rip-off of IT, but this season is just pushing the limits of plagiarism. The only thing left is to make the next season's antagonist a clown
I've been watching stranger things kinda out of obligation just becuase I was bored and wanted to find out how the story goes. I got genuinelly suprised at how good season 4 is compared to 2 and 3 thought nothing beats the first season
literally me
bruh this happened like 5 years ago because of matt mercer
>After
The only reason dnd is represented in a normie show as a legitimate hobby children used to have in the 80's, is that it has already been overrun by normies long before stranger things
D&D has been normieized since 2015 when they released their shitty 5th edition and Critical Role became popular. Most people who play tabletop hate D&D because it's such a shit setting and system but we're cursed to play it if we ever want to bring new people into the hobby because they don't want to play better systems in better settings. I first got into TTRPGs through 3.5e D&D and once we got used to the system we moved on to better shit and only switch back when a normie wants to try it out but only knows what D&D is.
>D&D has been normieized since 2015
I'd say its been normalised since 2008, one year after The Big Bang Theory came out, and the year 4E was released.
Big Bang Theory made a big impact in that matter, also before that, in a small portion, the D&D episode of Community in 2011
4E's switch to digital was so terrible:
Literally ended with a murder-suicide before they could finish the digital tools.
Noone played 4e though
Everything is D&D, you complete sperg.. There is D&D, and it’s multitude of shadows. You’re just fooling yourself.
Nerd culture has been dominant for like 10+ yeas now, they fricked it up a long time ago breh, nothing is safe.
>breh
Yeah it's people like you who either are a Black person or emulate Black folk and Black personify everything and destroy it. Frick off and die
i think you have breh confused with bruh, brah.
>brah
White
>breh, bruh
Black person
D&D is boring as shit and the people who play it need to re-evaluate their lives.
never played D&D myself, but it seems to be a game that is as boring or interesting as the people who play it make it. You sound incredibly insecure though.
Yeah I guess it’s better if you have an attention span not warped by tiktok
I heard that D & D players don't respect women... So disgusting
I have le aphantasia so i can't into D&D
Aphantasia shouldn't have anything to do with it. Maybe you're just boring?
>game about using your imagination
Anon...
You don't need mind pictures to have an imagination, Anon. I can't visualise an apple let alone an evolving scene but that doesn't mean I can't tell a story, or describe a character/location. Drawing, though, I absolutely suck at
>After watching stranger things, will loads of normies start playing DND only to realise it’s another fan base they can frick up?
Already happened long ago. They heard about some shit nerds played down in the basement to get away from the normies. So they just had to get in and ruin it. Started playing Idle Champions for some D&D action on the go. They occasionally have streams of ongoing normies playing games and want you to watch them while you're idling with free shit for tuning in. Every fricking stream is full gays with their "pronouns" slapped next to their name.
They're always looking for the sit they're not involved with to ruin.
this is so hyperspecific and autistic and the issues with DnD that people will pretend are new have literally always been a thing but on a smaller scale.
t. Zoomer. Even with it's golden age of video games hardly anybody new started playing D&D 2nd Edition and 3rd Edition barely expanded the hobby. 4th was the tipping point because Wizards wanted to bring World of Warcraft homosexuals into the hobby but failed spectacularly so they diluted the frick out of the system with 5th Edition and started getting podcasters to play it. That was all relegated to 2015. Before that D&D was still an obscure nerd hobby that was actually beginning to disappear because people liked Pathfinder better and new systems were coming in at a frantic pace.
Frick off with your "it's always been like this" Redditor shoulder shrug. The shittification of D&D started with 4th edition (2008) but it didn't do too much damage to the hobby. It all went to shit in 2015 with 5th Edition and Critical Role.
correct take
>That was all relegated to 2015. Before that D&D was still an obscure nerd hobby ...
It was earlier than that. D&D was getting pretty popular by at least around 2010, it was starting to show up in all sorts of popular media at the time. There was a D&D-themed Futurama movie in 2008; a bunch of popular TV shows had D&D-themed episodes (eg. IT Crowd, Community especially, etc). The big online D&D shows started to pop up as a result of this pop-culture coverage, not the other way around.
The problem was all the 80s D&D nerds grew up. They started making references to D&D in other media they were now in charge of making. They did it out of joy for what they loved as kids. They didn't realize it would attract the attention of those who couldn't like a thing as is, it had to be torn apart and remade to fit the mindset of others. In loving something they ended up popularizing it to its detriment.
This is the most braindead take I've seen.
A bunch of super nerd shows with hardcore nerd writers in their 30s-40s had one or two episodes about D&D and because of that you think it was blowing up and getting popular.
It wasn't. It was literally 5E and the 2015-2016 podcast push after Critical Role exploded where there were suddenly thousands of normie podcasts where they started playing D&D.
I've co-owned a hobby shop for a over decade at this point, no one gave a frick about D&D until 2015-2016, when suddenly we were having trouble keeping up with stock because so many new people I've never seen were coming in asking about if we had "that D&D game"
No shit? I figured that Pathfinder was attempting to appeal to normies after people realized 3.5 had some big issues.
I know that 4th ed was a conscious attempt to casualize even further, but 3 and 3.5 didn't attract many new players?
Lol. This happened to my Chess group.
>tfw normalgays swarmed your hobby and turned it into STONKS INVESTMENT LINE GO UP MUH PORTFOLIO
Unforgivable.
bro ST is responsible for like all new players now since it came out in 2016. Look up any DnD explained video on youtube and they bring up the show first and foremost.
How does the outside world "frick up" a tabletop game that you play in private with a pre-selected group of friends? The worst case is that newer editions of the game become shit ... but that's not a new criticism, and you can always continue to play the older versions or make your own modifications to taste.
They can't ruin it for you. You can only ruin it for yourself.
anon don't confront people who have no friends but like to pretend they have them with the fact that they don't
it's rude
because finding another group when you move/ your previous group breaks down is basically impossible now
It affects the recruitment system for the game. Finding people to play the game with now that it is mainstream makes it tougher to find people that you can get along with as tabletop RPGs require to a large capacity being able to get along with the people you play with even if it is only once a week.
>How does the outside world "frick up" a tabletop game
Just use the rules and creater your own characters?
They already starred like 5 years ago
DND is very mainstream now. I see a ton of women on dating apps that say they play DND
They don’t. We let a girl in who said she was keen but she just wanted attention from my mate and he wasn’t giving her any so she dropped out half way through the campaign
I've dated self described "gamer girls" with Triforce and Mario tattoos that haven't played a video game in 10+ years. They don't actually do nerd shit they just say they do to differentiate themselves.
yeah they don't
DnD is one of the most boring autistic games ever made.
It's only positive contribution was the lore made decades ago that went on to be the inspiration for cool video games. And now Wizards of the Coast cucked out hard by going "NUH-UH THERE'S NO BAD RACES ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'D BE RACIST"
>And now Wizards of the Coast cucked out hard by going "NUH-UH THERE'S NO BAD RACES ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'D BE RACIST"
The dumbest fricking thing they've done with the setting. "Hey there's dozens of different races in our world but it doesn't matter because mechanically they all play the same now and lore wise they can be whatever you want so the only reason to ever play something besides a human is because you're larping out your otherkin fetish!"
I miss when fantasy was just 3 humans and an elf and a dwarf in a Conan story. Modern nerds are so much more embarrassing and cringe than pre 1990s nerds it's crazy.
Pre-1990s nerds are absolute Chads compared to the limp wristed trannies who now occupy that space.
They literally just gave the DM the choice to do whatever they want with the lore now. If you want beholders to be the paranoid bigots they once were you can. And here's the greatest thing you've probably never thought: IT NEVER MATTERED TO BEGIN WITH! YOU HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER YOU OWN FRICKING GAME! WHO GIVES A FRICK WHAT A PAGE OF LORE SAYS WHEN YOU'RE FRICKING GOD AND CAN TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM IT!?
>I-its not that woke goyim
have a nice day nerd homosexual
They already had that. USUALLY chaotic evil meant that about 90% of the population was chaotic evil with a tiny handful being the other alignments.
They took away even that. Now it's just "dude just do whatever lmao" with heavy hints that if you don't have half of the orcs being misunderstood good guys you're a stupid racist.
No one's gonna care because it's all made up.
Never heard of nudge theory huh?
>NUH-UH THERE'S NO BAD RACES ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'D BE RACIST
I thought it was really inclusive and not racist at all that they thought of black people as orcs.
>dungeons and dragons now forces players to account for "disabled" adventurers
>dungeons must have "wheelchair" access consisting of ramps and handrails
>Campaign is a trial against the Litch Lord for not having handicapped access in his lair of doom
>Party has sued him
>There is no experience points anymore, now you level with victim points
Unironically didn't 3.5e have a recommended campaign where it was 90% conducting a trail of some archwizard and see if he was to be condemned and you were in court against various demons.
>Wheelchair bound adventurer
>In a world with magical healing potions, spells and prayers that can heal anything
At first I thought this was the dumbest thing ever, but then it got me thinking it could be an interesting character set up.
>Maybe the character is cursed so that healing spells/potions don't work on them? Could be a beginning of a interesting quest.
>Maybe the character is allergic to healing potions and is a devout follower of an evil god so they can't get healed at a temple?
>Maybe they were born paralyzed and it can't be "healed"?
>Maybe they are actually just fine and are just pretending to need the wheelchair to fool others?
Yeah, crippled PCs aren't anything new. They're a staple of GURPs and other point buy games, but the moronation comes in the form of wheelchair accesible dungeons. I'm sure that Gruk Butt-Rammer and his horde of goblins would never put any stairs in their bone fortress, or some drider b***h would build a magical elevator to her lair to make sure its up to Underdark local council standards.
>not playing a campaign where your party is basically a bunch of council employees and have to visit several dungeons since they've had complaints about the safety of several nearby dungeons (e.g. the flesh pit of the local Lich was built too deep, the dragon's lair isn't really wheelchair accessible and the magic forge where you can destroy the one ring was built in an active vulcano and doesn't even have a safety railing)
>"Gond the Wonderbringer, the god of crafting and construction has been driven insane by Cyric! He is now obsessed with building accessibility and is sending his followers and golems into every single city, town, tower, fortress, temple, dungeon, crypt and castle to build access ramps and lifts."
>"Are you bad enough group of adventurers to stop Gond before he builds an access ramp to the heavens and allows Cyric to attack the fields of Elysium?"
This is the funniest shit ever.
>forces players
how are you forced to do any of this? Sounds like some material has been provided as a guide for anyone who wants to use it, but like everything else in tabletop rpgs it's entirely up to you and the group you play with what you include or don't. No one is holding a gun to your head and "forcing" you to put wheelchair ramps into your taverns, you hysterical pussy.
I mean by putting it in the rulebooks, players will say "but it's in the rules!" and that's a huge problem I have with 5E in general. e.g. rangers can pick an option that allows them to detect certain types of monsters within X miles. A big part of classic D&D is wandering monsters. If they don't detect any ogres, than you roll 1d4 ogres, do you nullify their choices? A lot of terrible 3.x era material had "this door has an anti-magic field so can't be unlocked by spells" type bullshit.
Plus public conventions enforce this type of thing. I run games at UK Games Expo, they require X cards now: a safety tool if something in a game is particularly upsetting to a player (who might be a complete stranger). I think it's reasonable enough, but a lot of people online are bothered by the idea.
Rules lawyers can frick themselves and then frick off to DM their own game. I don't care whats "In the rules" at my table, I'm the DM, I make the judgement call. Not a dictator, I'll hear them out first but if they refuse to accept the final say and start crying over it they can leave.
Yeah it's just frustrating when the game is designed around it. I don't give a frick about 'building' characters but if someone has invested X points into some ability then I do feel guilty if they can't use it because that's now how I play the game.
This is why rules-light systems are better, Moldvay Basic D&D is RPGkino.
To be fair I also don't run games with random people, my groups consist of friends and people they or I bring in and vouch for. I can't imagine what dealing with people at conventions is like so I definitely respect your passion and perseverance.
The ranger awareness thing requires them to take an 'action' to enable it, and it doesnt last indefinitely. Unless your ranger makes a point of saying "I'm focusing on looking specifically for tell-tale signs of ogres" every once in a while then you can still drop ogres on him by surprise. Anyway almost all issues are solved by playing with actual friends, rather than public groups/strangers. Friends can talk shit with each other, understand each others sensibilities, and can easily decide between themselves if they add/remove/tweak any of the rules/content
Can you use the X card every time a woman or simp tries to play? Most women at the table aren't even the problem, it's the kissless homosexual next to her. And his weird erotic role play on semi-public tables.
Oh boy I get to share this absolute cringe kino for people outside /tg/ circles:
God, that GM skeeves me out.
His whole shtick was being a queer ally, advising other GMs on how to avoid triggering players, that sort of thing.
Then he does this, and a bunch of ex-girlfriends (no boyfriends, despite being queer, for some reason) came out of the woodwork to reveal he was a creep all along. What a surprise.
Well, if someone looks like a creep and acts like a creep, he's probably a creep. Even if he claims not to be one.
This is why I don't get why these people don't stay quiet. We've all known people like this, usually your arty/theatre types. If you're actively going to be a sex pest wouldn't you want to keep a low profile? Is it narcissism?
I think they just genuinely lack the tact to know where inappropriate behaviour starts and constantly try to push it farther, expecting to get away with it.
good god
This was cringe to watch (mainly because of how the women reacted) but then what's the problem with random sexual things in these games?
There's nothing wrong with sexual things in games, but from what I saw that was naive robot character who didn't know wtf he was gonna do, no implied sexual interest and then got fricking brain vibratored to robo-jaculation out of nowhere. At least lead up to build a romance first before you straight up go and magically make a homie nut his bolts. Also the guy looks like a homosexual version of someone who would tie you to a railroad track in an old cartoon, so that probably also factored into the creepiness.
lmao sounds like the robot encountered a creep
Lol, this is spot on. I've been DMing games for my siblings for years, including my twin sister. There was this time I brought two male friends from school to play a one-shot, and one of them made a female character just to romance my sister's male character (that she plays precisely to avoid moronic shit like this). It was hilarious seeing that guy desperately trying to ignore the fact that my sister's character suddenly became a homo. If you don't keep a tab on them these hormonal autists can easily ruin a game.
I want a D%D story about a safety inspector who goes to the most evil of places just to check if the pass the regulations to host an adventure, just to show how dumb idea it is
-The skulls in this dungeons are ok, they are fire moronant bones, but the lack of ramps and disabled bathroom is concerning Lord BloodSkull!
>dungeons must have "wheelchair" access consisting of ramps and handrails
Why? The wheelchair is broken as frick seeing how it automatically can use levitate and has tons of resistances because heaven forbid the DM make the person in a wheelchair an actual liability. Might as well have the whole party use the wheelchair. If you're gonna make the disabled person overpowered right from the start, just make a character who can fricking walk so then you got some challenge for you.
>entire point of D&D is to roleplay as a character that is explicitly not you in a magical setting with fantasy creatures and races and magic and shit
>despite this wheel chairs are added because people IRL use wheel chairs and we have to be inclusive!
It boggles my mind how stupid this line of logic is. In a world where they can literally bring people back from the dead, or regrow limbs, or animate limbs via magic, or any of dozens of ways of getting around the fact that one is handicapped, they choose to play a handicapped person in a wheel chair.
I play the artificer class in my game and there's a specialist called the armourer who literally can make magic armour that covers you and gives you magical limbs if you're missing any.
People build their identity around their disabilities. Today now more than ever. You've seen all the people on tiktok claiming to be autistic or bipolar or have multiple personality disorder. A cripple doesn't want their character to walk in their D&D game, because that would make them like everybody else. Instead they want to play a crippled character. Now, if it was in real life and they were given a chance to walk again, they probably would take that opportunity. But in a game, being able to walk like everyone else is sorta meaningless.
How are people so outspoken about being autistic now?
Maybe it's because it was the internet's go-to insult for a while, but I've always kept it quiet. "Masking" is something a lot of autistic people do, and I'm terrified of being "outed".
Meanwhile a lot of younger people introduce themselves and the first thing they say is "hi i'm bill and i'm on the autism spectrum." Is anyone ever going to respond well to that? Do people like autistic people now, even though they're socially difficult by nature?
They use their disorder as a replacement for an actual personality. People have been doing similar things since the beginning of time, this is just the newest version of it. Remember people who made their who personality about smoking weed and being a stoner? Or even being a gamer? Or nowadays a kpop fan. Before that maybe it was stamp collector or wine connoisseur. It's exactly like that. But now instead of their personality about being outgoing or adventurous, it's just 'hey my personality is autism lol.' And the thing about autism, it's incredibly easy to fake. Because it's a spectrum and there are extremely high functioning autists, you can basically say oh I get nervous meeting new people, I must have autism! It would be hard for anyone to call you out on it. Even if they say, well did you get diagnosed by a doctor, you can easily say nope, I'm a self diagnosed autist and they basically have to take your word for it.
>Remember people who made their who personality about smoking weed and being a stoner? Or even being a gamer? Or nowadays a kpop fan. Before that maybe it was stamp collector or wine connoisseur.
Honestly if it's a hobby that's totally fine. Even people who are really into weed: stoners are chill people and I like learning/hearing about people's passions.
It's just dumb when it's a pathology or something. "I have ADHD" or "I am bisexual". So?
>People build their identity around their disabilities
No, c**ts do this. I play D&D with characters that are not me because being crippled fricking sucks.
I don't think you know how D&D works, anon. But its nice to know you're up to date on your 'culture war talking points'. Which YouTuber told you to get outraged about that one? TheQuartering?
Jokes on you, crippled girls are literally my biggest fetish.
>i like helpless girls that cant say no
on the road to pedohood i see
>not wanting a girl who literally can not run away from you
ngmi
freak
I do kinda like the idea of a battle-wheelchair if I’m being honest. Let the crippled kids have their fun man.
>I roll to tip the cripple's wheelchair
>I roll to roll away
Does having wheels give you extra movement on a turn?
DnD is very gay these days but fortunately it doesnt reflect at all on actual tables. On the other hand play is full of trannies and gaygs and it is only getting worse
OP is a homosexual. The DnD fanbase is already well underway in the pozzing process.
The social justice and racism mind virus is the most interesting thing to me. Literally it mindbroke entire countries and infiltrated every hobby
Yeah, look up memetics in the actual sense of the word. It's a gene of the mind. A powerful idea that survives and propogates. Then read Carl Jung, Nietzche and Grant Morrison's works and realize that stories are real, living things, and so are ideas, and they exist in another dimension. The way ideas spread is like their version of propogation, or reproduction.
>Dawkins
>Jung
>Morrison
Nice.
Do you crave to get diluted stupid shit via Hebrews?
Just read Plato.
I'm confident it too shall pass. What's most amazing is that "don't see color" not only got thrown out but vilified "YOU HAVE TO SEE COLOR, COLORED PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE PRIVELIEGE TO NOT SEE IT" I suspect everyone will eventually get exhausted with perfomatives.
I should add that a recession will accelerate people not giving a frick anymore
Unfortunately I doubt it will. It has only gotten worse in the past 10 years and just keeps getting worse still. I remember people 5 years ago posting it was dying out yet it just gets worse and worse
Its because they always move to the next big trend in social justice, first was women, than Blacks, than homossexuals now is trannies. The fun thing is that they already started to fight each other, woman on blm shit, complain about feminists only fighting for white chicks, some women accuses gay man of chauvinism, trannies complain about gays and lesbos don't want to date them and the most famous today, trannies vs terfs. I do thing that somepoint everything is going to shit, but I think also that all this bullshit will become worse before start to get better
>"YOU HAVE TO SEE COLOR, COLORED PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE PRIVELIEGE TO NOT SEE IT"
I hate leftists who think racial colorblindness is some white trick to get minorities to not fight for their racial interests so fricking much. We offered them an egalitarian society where a black guy who just happens to be tall and shoot balls through hoops well becomes a fricking millionaire, and they spat it back at us.
They see colorblindness as something they can't exploit. If everyone is judged the same, treated the same, given the same opportunities then they can never "trade" on their individual properties. They can't say they're oppressed if they have the same treatment. They can't get more than others.
Its not about equality. It never was to them.
spot on
This is some cringey bullshit, anons. Touch grass.
Touching grass hurts flora folx you monster!
Denounce the Talmud
I don't think it's a trick, but people should realize people aren't equal on any level, and that society should still attempt to bring equality about.
The most popular twitch channel in the world is a table top RPG group.
I wouldn't say it's been thrown out, rather those two things exist at the same time and only one is spoken when it's convenient.
>D&D
>ever not mainstrean
lmao
That already happened, DnD is ruined, and Baldur's Gate 3 is never coming out.
>In interviews, players pointed to the work of J.R.R. Tolkien for inspiring entire races and subclasses within the D&D game that were built on racist tropes and reinforced harmful stereotypes. Players of different races, gender identities and sexual orientations cited instances of feeling unwelcome by legacy D&D players, by the game itself and by its history of straight white maleness and overt colonialism.
It's full of normies and trannies who now tell everyone else how they get to play the game.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/21/style/dungeons-and-dragons.html
I had a brainfrick when I realized Trey Parker learned to write by being always the GM.
it's funny that he had said that in ancient interviews when SP was still new and nobody paid attention; they thought he was fricking with them
Playing DnD is fun, but DMing is a whole other world. You literally become God, and you get to create a whole world with people and stories in it. It made me want to write a book.
Its honestly an excellent way of learning to write. If you can create an adventure that keeps your players excited and engaged then you're well on your way. If they're sitting there bored out of their minds and eating and looking at their phones more than they are rolling dice or discussing how they're going to deal with shit happening, then you're failing.
I bet I'd create sci-fi worlds, original Blade Runner style, with lots of robot orgies.
Don't let your dreams be dreams, anon
>caring about D&D lore
What's stopping you from playing with the lore you want to play with when just playing with a couple of friends?
Orcs can still be unapologetic savages, races can still be heavily segregated and sexual orientation doesn't matter when you have to stop a dragon from burning down a village.
If you play D&D with random people you barely know it's your fault
This is what I do.
Homebrewed my whole shit.
Play 5e even though I learned 3.5e first because 5e is a bit more normie friendly and none of my friends have ever played before.
Orcs in my setting are like the savage natives in Blood Meridian.
Elves are ethnostate facists.
There’s already a whole community of obnoxious man-hating, DND playing women on apps like Instagram
That happened a decade ago. There's a certain protection it has from getting too bad because you just play with your friends and you can do what you like.
DND players are the same people that buy funkpops and browse reddit, they were always normies by Cinemaphile standards
DnD is gay and gay shit like that is why China is winning.
ttrpgs being "ruined" is the stupidest complaint ever tbh
It's a game of make believe
You write your own stories
You play with your own friends
I've been running games for my wife and friends of ours for years, and never once has a "woke" fanbase affected me
The books themselves shove this stuff in your face now, but obviously that can be avoided by not heeding their tirades about equity and social justice, or simply by using old versions. It does become your problem if you're trying to engage with the hobby publicly, like at game shops, or if you're running/playing games on roll20 or whatever.
That’s sweet, but when the game is advertised for homosexuals and exclusively marketed to homosexuals, this means that one day there will be no non-gays playing. True, classic D&D will simply die out
DND has been fricked up for over a decade. The average DND party is normies, fat wiccan b***hes, gays and troons. You can still find people who just want to have a classic roleplaying experience but the majority are just shilling their own fanfics or blatantly roleplaying as their favourite fictional character.
t. tried to get into DND for the first time in over a decade and left in disgust
the frick are you on about?
normal gays are already playing DnD
I tried playing RPG with some nerd friends but they are prone to meltdowns and now I dont see them anymore.
DnD is frickin lame.
S4 deserves better rating
Critical Role has gotten lots of normies and women into D&D. They lean very heavily into the improv/acting side of the game, to the point where that's become how you play D&D "well".
If you want traditional D&D and a really solid game system, the Old School Renaissance (OSR) is still a great scene. Lurk /osrg/ on /tg/, download the PDFs of the 1981 D&D Basic/Expert sets, buy Old-School Essentials if you want physical books.
thats a great ad. funny how you can tell it’s dated even with not much context
I will never be able to experience a game of D&D or anything equivalent. It's ultra niche in Germany and everyone I ever met who actually did play it was a total homosexual about it. For example when I was in school in 2005 and there was this fat half-american bastard who played The Dark Eye with a bunch of other guys and mentioned it openly, I was like: "Oh yeah the Dark Eye, I played Shadows over Riva, was a great game". The fat frick exploded right in my face yelling: WHAT, THE VIDEOGAMES FRICKING SUCK, THEY'RE NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING, GET THE FRICK OUTTA HERE.
Frick you Darren, hope you're dead you c**t.
Bit mean.
Darren sounds like now he hires prostitutes to feel touched and visits the philippines too often
>WHAT, THE VIDEOGAMES FRICKING SUCK, THEY'RE NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING, GET THE FRICK OUTTA HERE
Guy was a sperg but was right, he should have invited you to experience the real thing. Some people think that they're personally being attacked if you mention the more entry level material and don't have the social skills to act like decent human beings, or he was just autistic. Of course, it's hard to gauge from an anonymous post if he was autistic, you are autistic and misunderstood him, or you were both clashing your autism against one another like little moronic rams.
What I'm saying is don't let other people deprive you of trying something you like, I was a dudebro growing up in the 90s surrounded by dudebros. I always wanted to play D&D but had no one to play that "nerd shit" with, so I didn't until much later. Now I play several times a week and most of my old friends are dead or have serious problems with addiction or depression.
They've already fricked up this hobby with their gay shit years ago.
OP confirmed for never visiting /tg/
>get invited to a friend’s DnD game, never played before
>everybody is really meek despite it being a social game, they’re playing it like it’s a video game with no role playing whatsoever — just fighting stuff
>decide to play a kind of ridiculous character to spice things up
>everyone’s laughing
>later I’m told that I can’t come back because one of the regulars was upset that I “made his girlfriend laugh too much”
>I “made his girlfriend laugh too much”
you won that game anon, you won, i bet that girl said to him after -why are not like your friend?, you are always boring- and that's how relationships starts to end
Was she cute?
She was like 4’11, way too short for me. Nice girl, though.
This reminds me how in college a female friend of a friend invited me to try out DnD with her friends. Hadn't played since a high school friend let me join his group for a couple games. I was too dense or maybe too hung up on an ex to realize the girl was maybe interested in dating and seeing if I was open to playing DnD with her. Plus her group was a ways out of the city and I didn't have a car.
leftists infiltrated it years ago so who cares? Orcs are now viewed as oppressed black people for some reason.
Is Stranger Things worth a watch btw?
what the frick are you all talking about, what do you mean saying "some podcast nobody ever heard of and some tv show made dnd normie"?
dnd was normie since it was created, everybody fricking heard about it, millions of people played it, propably even your mother knows what it is
People knew about it because religious groups made waves about it being satanic, and then it became "that thing that nerds do". It being widely known doesn't mean people were climbing over each other to play in the numbers that they are now.
>It being widely known doesn't mean people were climbing over each other to play in the numbers that they are now.
they did though
This. TSR/Hasbro have never released official sales figures, but employees have said on forums the 80s basic sets were the best selling edition (at least until 5E).
You're telling me that D&D has been as popular and widely played just as much as it has been in the last 6-7 years with a straight face? You're out of your goddamned mind.
I'm telling you that the majority of D&D 'fans' don't go out and buy the core books and just pretend to be experts on it because they watched a podcast.
>will loads of normies start playing DND only to realise it’s another fan base they can frick up?
They already did and arguably have been for years. There have been hordes of normalgays swarming DnD and ruining it by dumbing down the rules. I've met loads of prostitutes who play dungeons and dragons cause they're slightly quirky. Except in reality they just repeat the same lolrandumb shit and play some multicolored furry freakshit race, they aren't imaginative at all, at least the people making Tolkien clone #359 we're putting some genuine passion into the hobby, these roasties and nunmales don't actually want to play, instead they want to pound the bamboo wood tabletop with their meaty fists, microbrews sloshing and wifes son awakening to cry plaintively in the next room, yellow teeth showing through shit-colored facepubes beards as they laugh hysterically at how their best friend just rolled LE EPIC NATURAL 20 to seduce the king. And the söyisraelites at Wizards of the Coast (the company that makes DnD) just keep going along with it and use it to shoehorn their fricking LGBT garbage into everything while pumping out soulless art and making loads of money off of dumbass overpriced prepackaged adventures. Normalgays have absolutely fricked up DnD and have no actual imagination and think it's all like Dark Scrolls or Skyrim. And all these söyfacing YouTubers constantly shill for every new project and Kickstarter crap. It's become a general part of the söy cycle now and I wish it would just stop. Every normonig and rosstie needs to get the frick away from dungeons and dragons and this shitty fricking faux80s nostalgia racemixing promoting ShitFlix show needs to frick off and stop flooding even more normalnigs into the hobby like Big Bang theory did.
D&D had a huge normie renaissance around 2016 thanks to Critical Role and season 1 of Stranger Things.
In the last 6 years since that happened they've
1) added "disabled" characters into D&D canon, allowing you to adventure as a character with a fantasy wheel chair, and a lot of the old D&D campaigns were redesigned to allow for ramps (legitimately not kidding)
2) removed the idea of "evil" races like Orcs or Drow or Mindflayers or Goblins. They all had a fraction of their race split off and turn "good", while at the same time all the traditionally good races had a fraction split off and turn "evil", so now any race can canonically be good or evil and it won't be a weird stand out (like Drizzt, the Lawful Good Drow was for 25+ years)
3) made modern transgenderism canon despite the fact that it's a world of literal magic where there are potions and magics that can change your sex or race into whatever you want
It's a goddamn travesty what they've done in the last half a decade thanks to the normies invading.
It's a company, of course they're gonna go along with the status quo, especially when it makes them as rich as it is. You don't need to make your campaigns follow anyones rules but your own.
Ultimately all you need to play roleplaying games is a pdf, dice and some some friends. Seething about people you don't like playing is really juvenile. Play an OSR game or old skool WFRP with some guys from your nationalist militia if you want, noone's going to break into your house and force you to play Thirsty Sword Lesbians.
>Thirsty Sword Lesbians
Are female lesbians bothered that trans people fetishize them so much?
Extremely.
Feel sorry for them honestly. Call it whataboutism but imagine if you did the whole "yasss lesbians! #sapphic" thing for any other group: race, gender, whatever.
Wouldn't you just want to be left alone?
have you ever seen a normie try to play d&d? they can't immerse themselves at all and feel awkward the entire time
playing with an insecure normie is the worst d&d experience I ever had
>try to get in character, maybe even do some voices
>insecure normie but cringes and laughs nervously
I would take some mixmaxing autistic over another insecure female normie joining my group any day. either take part or frick off
i've always thought that rpgs attract insecure people and are made mostly for them because something something pretending to be somebody else
It's a misconception. D&D is a social activity. You need at least two friends, preferably more to really make it work. If you're a true introvert. you would probably never get into it at all unless you have a nerdy extroverted friend to drag you along with him.
Every single normie friend of mine started playing D&D during covid lockdown.
Normies already fricked up card games and roleplaying games though.
D&D has been turbowoke homosexualshit for years now.
I have some bad news for you anon
this guy looks exactly like someone who would be in a 'polycule'
>try to gatekeep normalgays out of D&D
>doesn't know that D&D has been compromised a long long time ago because he doesn't even know anything about the D&D scene
It turns out you're the normalgay all along OP.
top left looks like a man who just realized what he sold his soul for.
Can you really frick up D&D more than that fanbase fricks up itself on a daily basis?
They already did that since season 1
Reminder that Wizards of the Coast changed the lore for the drow because they didn't want to imply that a fantasy race could be 'just generally evil' because it would imply that a certain real world race could also be 'just generally evil'
Reminder that they already fricking did that like 20 goddamn years ago with Starlights & Shadows, where a branch of Drow females frick off and start their own non-fricked-up-and-evil society, and again in the mid 00s with one of the Drizzt novels where it's mentioned because of what he's done he's inspired both male and female Drow to do good in the world and not be evil.
Of course they weren't able to milk either one of those for woke clout back then, so they're trying to make it seem like this is a new thing.
Critical Role's first 'season' (they call it 'campaign 1') came out a year before Stranger Things season 1, but the ball had sort of already been rolling by that point. I went through high-school playing D&D on the weekend with my buddies, and even in the late 2000's it would have been considered a freakishly 'nerdy' (at least, it was around here). Basically I got to watch in real time as it became slightly more socially acceptable as companies branched out in various ways to hit other markets, and then...
Critical Role hits, and a whole segment of people that were nerd adjacent are suddenly into it, it's not 'dorky fantasy stuff' anymore, but it's a cool social activity for creative people. Stranger Things was no doubt in development before this point, so I won't blame their inclusion of D&D on Critical Role, but basically a year later a mainstream super popular Netflix show introduces it as a 'cool' hobby, and there was even a tie-in product released. D&D went from being slowly, gradually accepted alongside other traditional games to being a hot topic, and a marketable commodity, and normies ate it up.
So now you have Rick and Morty, Wendy's, and Bible supplements and splatbooks for Fifth Edition, because everyone wants a piece of the pie.
it isn't even cool in stranger things. they are the nerd characters. the nerd characters always play d&d in media. I always think of knarf and co. from that D&D episode of recess.
D&D was slowly becoming acceptable anyway because of LOTR popularity and a lot of celebs coming out saying they play it. critical role was probably the floodgates opening. I played pathfinder at uni in 2013, 2014, and my group was surprisingly well adjusted kinda like the critical role crew.
While the writers accurately portrayed other people's thoughts at the time about the game to be negative or derogatory, it's pretty clear that in a meta-sense, they weren't trying to disrespect the hobby. That's what I meant, that even if it wasn't a completely accurate portrayal of the rules, fans were intended to be left with a good impression of that type of game.
As a certified basement dwelling incel, it's super weird to go to conventions these days and realize how normal everyone is compared to you. You're basically Dave or Gongnag, and a lot of the guys you meet are more like Conrad and Xavier. They're very average looking, but not hideous. Probably well liked and have a lot of friends, maybe even a girlfriend. Meanwhile you get so nervous talking to two girls at a con that you start stuttering like a moron and they literally can't stop themselves from laughing at how much of a sperg you are. Not like something like that has ever happened to me. Ha ha ha.
Don't even know who these are, I literally just assumed I was in this picture somewhere.
Jokes on you, the stuttering part never happened for me because most women find me repulsive for my looks alone and run away.
Play a real table top rpg, losers.
Can't tell if FATAL or a 'Jennell' Jaquays module.
Zoomie appreciation for kate bush just because it appeared in the show was surprising to me
that would be their grandparents' (don't correct me on this, think about the timelines for two seconds) music, I don't remember ever appreciating big band music (my grandparents music)
running up that hill is blessed with sounding remarkably current, it was a bit ahead of its time. the synth sound is still largely present today, a lot of music draws influence from the 80s synthpop, so it's not surprising to me. before all this I would listen to running up that hill and always thought it could've come out today from some indie pop artist, it is a very current sound.
the generational gap between big band and synth is just too big to be bridged, but 80s synth and today's synth are pretty closely related.
Yeah I think synthpop is pretty timeless, good pop music is good pop music. Big band music just sounds old-fashioned by nature. My dad listened to The Beatles in the late 60s and my gran complained it was "just noise!"
Has anyone ever played MYFAROG (Varg’s game)?
Doesn't DnD require time, patience and attention span? Something that normalgays lack.
't DnD require time, patience and attention span? Something that normalgays lack.
Yes and yes.
It was honestly a huge fluke that normies somehow wound up interested in D&D in the first place and the company has been desperately scrambling to rework their product into something this new audience can actually pallet.
I don't think it's that bad for them to take an interest in DND but the thing I've learned over the years is that some gatekeeping is always required, as long as you realise this then it doesn't matter how many of le normies are attempting to overrun the communities you're part of. Though if you're online especially then a big problem that can happen is the attempted purging of every suspected newbie by morons, which is unnecessary for the health of a community, there's a balance to be had. But either way the bottom line is that actively finding, creating, or maintaining(IMPORTANT!!!) communities that you want to be a part of, regardless of it's size, is something that you should be doing if you care about your interests in the long run, on some level it feels like a lost art and I'd say it's because people expect everything to be done for them with zero effort and that's one increasingly big contributing factor as to why people whine so much about their communities now, among others we're all aware of. Online it's an increasingly uphill battle too as people congregate onto larger websites (more people to interact with on them) and many smaller communities hemorrhage users because of it. But as long as there's people who care about their hobbies enough to not want to see them defiled by popular culture then there's hope.
I don't really care, it seems like a cringe social thing for normies who are stuck on a low level of consciousness
>start
Did you miss critical role?
>only to realize it’s another fan base they can frick up?
Too late anon
i will NEVER be an american having cool social things like DND in my area
i will ALWAYS be a lonely yuropoor alcoholic
I envy you for not already knowing DnD was ruined by normalgays a decade ago
This,its now the most moronic setting ,d20 book could easily emulate any setting in the past but 5th edition is bad beyond belief.
Its already being fricked up. They have changed and are changing lore. They are even changing dragons soon, if not already according to gay sjw stuff. They dont even replace it with anything they are simply removing the lore. Kobalds is one I remember them focusing on fairly recently.
gays and women have infested D&D for years. It takes no competitive talent and most nerds are fat losers who are desperate for female attention.
The first season of this show was actually decent, but they've been rehashing the same shit with the same villain and there don't really feel like there are any stakes anymore now. The "villain" in the current season is really bland and uninspired.
it can't really get more pozzed or casualized than it already is so who cares
D&D has already been completely normified, the community is full of gays and trannies and 5e is casual garbage
dnd is gay homosexual shit.
I’m gonna say it. Blacks and women don’t belong in D&D
so brave
D&D has already been thoroughly ruined
>join random DND group
>"okay everyone lets start by telling each other our pronouns"
>everyone makes characters that are complete replicas of their fricked up real selves only with magic powers
I only ever play with people I know in real life, the community as a whole is normie-tier now.
My translez catfolk barbarian runs over her with xis wheelchair.
the autism in this thread is baffling
D&D has already been thoroughly ruined by normification thanks to CR and shit like that. However, the great thing about it is you can ignore everyone and just play with close friends. The hobby is fricked but you can gatekeep against people ruining it for you pretty easy.
sorry to tell you, but a lot of theatre kids have been playing DnD for years
t. my ex dragged me to her games sometimes
150 IPs
how the frick btw?
How are so many people playing DnD but then also being regulars of this board?
When someone makes a thread for a fantasy movie none of you show there it just ides.
I've been playing since 2007 and coming to Cinemaphile since 2006. /tg/ is my home board. I don't like all fantasy stuff universally. I don't like Game of Thrones at all, for example.
I wonder if most posters here are just autists obsessed with DnD and they spend all day on the search tool looking for any reference of this across this website.
Many groups of people do that already on Cinemaphile so this would not be at all surprising.
That ship has sailed years ago. Every D&D group is full of queers now
After playing other game systems, D&D 5e has too much number crunching.
Weren't the protags playing D&D in fricking E.T.? That massively popular movie?