Fell off after season 4, seasons 6 and 7 are incomprehensible garbage
But up to that point pretty neat and enjoyable
The ending always struck me as weird, when they have the reunion, it seems like the show is pretty unambiguous about how everyone's less happy now doing all these great things they're doing than when they were all living on the superplane saving the world each week. I don't think it's unrealistic, it's just a weird thing for a TV show to do.
Yeah Season 6/7 was not that good and plot got overly complicated. But they held Fitzsimmons as a goddamn prisoner in S05 ending. Otherwise S05 ending was perfect
That episode was so fricking bad it was the funniest shit ever. >Team of bad guys but with the most moronic superpowers >Girl with knife fingernails >Dude who got super scream from trying to threat his throat cancer with energy beams >Just a guy on steroids >Hacker, just a hacker
i'd rather watch all of marvel tv, including the bad shit, than anything from the mcu since 2016. feigie is just another Hollywood butthole, who knows nothing about the product, but takes all the credit.
jeph loeb, even with his aversion to costumes and cheapness, actually knows his shit.
my only complaints are daisy being a complete mary sue, not enough simmons, the last 2 seasons, the over use of go-pros for action shots, and using the arri alexa instead of the red like the netflix shows, which look a million times better.
It's the only capeshit I enjoy. There's a lot of gorgeous women in the show. I really liked the show but I doubt I'll rewatch it any time soon. Hive was an interesting story arc. Daisy's girl hacker shtick is pretty gay though.
First season or two is god awful. They really wanted to be Mavel X-Files, and it really doesnt work. It does find it's feet in the later seasons tho. The Ghost Rider arc is extremely bad ass, and the effects are better than anything I expected to se on network TV at the time. After that, they kinda jump the shark with the trapped in-space season, and the trapped-in-a-simulation season. But it's still pretty consistently fun. It is pretty fricked that the de-canonized the whole series from the MCU, and Coulson/SHIELD didn't get any fricking part in the big End Game super team up
>It is pretty fricked that the de-canonized the whole series from the MCU, and Coulson/SHIELD didn't get any fricking part in the big End Game super team up
im happy with the shows not being part of the movies, because as we saw from kingpin in hawkeye, they're gonna ruin everything.
I still don't get what the hell was Chronicom's plan. They knew when they time travel, you can't change your future since it just diverges to another timeline. Nonetheless they still tried to do Terminator shit to stop SHIELD from forming?
also, why did shield follow them? maybe if they did a "the present is changing, we have to go back and stop them" thing like star trek first contact, it'd make a little more sense, but whatever.
it was probably just a filler season, and they wanted better cameos but only got souza instead of movie actors.
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>young hot HAPA ends up with old white man
what did they mean by this
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>daisy is so cool, she's just like peggy carter
last minute bullshit, because the movies changed peggy being married to souza to cap, because unearned payoff.
that is one thing I think they did very well. Despite all the stupid insane bullshit going on, they managed to tie everything together pretty well with some good through lines. Where as the MCU is kinda "wibbely wobbely timey wimey none of this shit matters anyway"
because the majority of the tv show runners, actually like the source material.
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>Payoff
I genuinely wished they'd resolve Agent Carter S02's cliffhanger ending, even by a flitting quote, but alas they didn't.
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i know. but she's too busy getting in girl boss fights with wanda.
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More plausible explanation might be that Chronicoms knew nothing of time travel (since they had to coerce Fitzsimmons to get the formula for machines), and genuinely thought they can change the future.
But Fitz outplayed them by letting them lead to Kora in the process (Who was the key to solve incoming Chronicom invasion)
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the only problem is, how is earth the only planet to discover time travel when our tech is so inferior to the rest of the universe?
this is a general sci-fi problem though, where earth is always both a backwater hellhole and yet better than the rest.
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And what's worse is that Chronicoms did have Monoliths in their grasps and it was one of them (Enoch) who sent SHIELD on time travel errand utilizing that lmao. But then again Enoch had Robin's help, so I guess that's what made difference?
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why didn't they just make her irene adler (destiny)? they already used scorch, who was a mutant. marvel has had the x-men tv license forever.
sorry, unrelated rant.
the monoliths always bothered me. especially the time one just being limestone.
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What bothered me more is that they had whole galaxy adventure episodes in S06 but didn't bother to reference space movies like GotG. I mean was it impossible to even namedrop some planets or include some alien species we saw before in the background?
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i'm pretty sure abc kept cutting the budgets, because they wanted to cancel it, but disney didn't want them to.
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I think the execs were forcing them to not use anything directly related to the MCU by that point
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>also, why did shield follow them? maybe if they did a "the present is changing, we have to go back and stop them" thing like star trek first contact, it'd make a little more sense, but whatever.
They didn’t know that their own timeline wouldn’t actually change at first. Also it’s more ethical to stop bad guys from creating fricked up timelines if you can do it. The whole thing was definitely a mess, but it still made more sense than the Season 6 villains.
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>but it still made more sense than the Season 6 villains.
that whole season lead to nothing. i don't get it.
that is one thing I think they did very well. Despite all the stupid insane bullshit going on, they managed to tie everything together pretty well with some good through lines. Where as the MCU is kinda "wibbely wobbely timey wimey none of this shit matters anyway"
All I know is a guy betrays the group, feels bad about it, and is like
“Hey guys I feel really bad about being a traitor can I rejoin?”
And they’re like
“No lmao, go frick yourself”
unrelated question. why is marvel studios so bad at making a good show with a high budget?
daredevil season 1 was shot in new york, with good stunts and cinematography, big name actors, great and consistent writing, they even remembered to change the street signs to where in hell's kitchen the characters would be, and was 13 episodes, costing $60,000,000 (the most expensive of all the netflix show)
and hawkeye was kinda shot in new york, mostly on a green screen, with one kinda big young actress, and hawkeye, is mostly cg, coreography and cinematography were shit, writing was shit, and ended horribly, was 6 episodes and cost $200,000,000?
I like how they pretended, that what they did was really important and shit, but in reality any of the avengers would deal with their problems on 10 minutes.
My favorite ridiculous part was the "Real" SHIELD, where they bickered like children with that other group, about who did better job. Except we never saw what that "real shield" group ever did, because apparently they spent all of their time chasing after Coulsons group, who actually DID stuff. Also damn, way to go wasting Edward James Olmos.
How about THETA protocol? Coulson was super secretive about it for a half a season, to the point everyone started to suspect that he's compromised... just to reveal, it was a 4 second long tie in to the Age of Ultron. KEK.
I think they wanted to avoid cheapening his heroic sacrifice from the first Avengers. But yeah, I feel like the as a bare minimum, they could have just had a single helicarrier show up for the End Game fight, and fans could just have fun speculating about who was commanding itat least untill Disney ruined that with a retcon flashbask
"Real" SHIELD was probably the silliest subplot on the show, that went absolutely nowhere, as they just got absorbed by Coulson team, and never talked about again. What a waste of Edward James Olmos.
lol, that seemed mostly like an excuse to just introduce a bunch of new shield people and resources. >"Oh, by the way, here's this other, completely secret bunker full of SHIELD shit that we haven't talked about or done anything to establish. They can team up with you if you want"
Season 1 was pretty shallow until Winter Soldier happened. Then it got only better as it went along, with Season 4 being highest point for them to go out on. Season 5 was rough, but also not the worst point to go out on, seasons 6 and 7 were dragging too much, at that point they should've given up.
Overall, there are no bad seasons, just first season struggled with its own premise until it got destroyed. Pretty great show, massively overlooked. You could visually see how the team behind the show was going above and beyond with each subsequent season feeling considerably cheaper than previous one, but refusing to stop top quality TV no matter what hand they are dealt with, some of the most amusing bottle episodes in the TV history.
bill paxton's son playing a younger version of his dad's character to literal perfection is one of the most kino things i've ever had the chance to witness
Season 5 is half about them being trapped in a post-apocalyptic future and half about them trying to avert it when they get back. It wraps up most of the hanging plot threads like the gravitonium from the 1st season. It’s worth watching.
Seasons 6 and 7 are half seasons that continue the story into a timeline in which the Snap never happened. They’re OK if you like the characters although the plots are a huge mess.
season 4 is some of the best television ever. it's a shame most people will never see it
i agree, its up there with daredevil season 1 and 2.
Fell off after season 4, seasons 6 and 7 are incomprehensible garbage
But up to that point pretty neat and enjoyable
The ending always struck me as weird, when they have the reunion, it seems like the show is pretty unambiguous about how everyone's less happy now doing all these great things they're doing than when they were all living on the superplane saving the world each week. I don't think it's unrealistic, it's just a weird thing for a TV show to do.
Yeah Season 6/7 was not that good and plot got overly complicated. But they held Fitzsimmons as a goddamn prisoner in S05 ending. Otherwise S05 ending was perfect
one of the best shows i've ever seen
idk what went so right, but my god
not canon
it's hilarious how much feige ignored agents of SHIT
even stuff like daredevil was made semi canon
AoS is better by far than the mainstream MCU universe
lol whatever you say chloe
That episode was so fricking bad it was the funniest shit ever.
>Team of bad guys but with the most moronic superpowers
>Girl with knife fingernails
>Dude who got super scream from trying to threat his throat cancer with energy beams
>Just a guy on steroids
>Hacker, just a hacker
wasn't that kind of the point, though? the rejects getting misplaced revenge on shield?
>I don't care hold the nails up for the camera you washed up post wall c**t
>yes joss
>that's mister whedon to you
story checks out.
>Muh canon
Who cares
i'd rather watch all of marvel tv, including the bad shit, than anything from the mcu since 2016. feigie is just another Hollywood butthole, who knows nothing about the product, but takes all the credit.
jeph loeb, even with his aversion to costumes and cheapness, actually knows his shit.
Shit all the way through.
You didn’t finish all the seasons
The only good thing MCU produced.
Seasons 2, 3 and 4 are kino. Sadly as the first part of season 1 is weak many people didn't watch them
Largely shit. Even for capeshit. But I did like Ghostrider.
I only watched it because my little sister wanted to watch it.
>best character and actor coming through
I assume you didn't get to finish S05? Well if so just stop at S05's end. Only thing worth looking in S06/S07 was Fitzsimmons interacting
Meant for
i saw him as a cowboy the other day, it freaked me out
*we cant use the watcher because of copyright the character
>when they find out that he had to die to escape the time loop
so, was he originally gonna be a watcher, then feigie said no? also his intro with "this must be the place" is great.
Stopped watching when they ended up in that space station and earth was destroyed. Worth digging it up again or skip?
chloe bennet is my WIFE
Frick off she's mine
I literally only watched this shit for Fitz. He was the only decent character on this trash heap.
Really really cheesy, the 100's style. I can't get through it.
What waste of time you will never get back anon
I know. List me one good show that was worth your time anon then maybe I can find solace
>hawkeye is comfy kin
>moon knight is kino
>wandvision is kino
but also
>aos is a waste of time.
pick one, Cinemaphilegay
I was pretty surprised when it want from shit to kino in the space of a single episode.
my only complaints are daisy being a complete mary sue, not enough simmons, the last 2 seasons, the over use of go-pros for action shots, and using the arri alexa instead of the red like the netflix shows, which look a million times better.
oh, also i never cared for ward. i never felt sorry for him and i never thought he was a convincing villain.
He worked as a disillusioned lackey to Bill Paxton, though.
It's the only capeshit I enjoy. There's a lot of gorgeous women in the show. I really liked the show but I doubt I'll rewatch it any time soon. Hive was an interesting story arc. Daisy's girl hacker shtick is pretty gay though.
>Daisy's girl hacker shtick is pretty gay though.
daisy is literally the "mary sue who is the key to everything" trope.
First season or two is god awful. They really wanted to be Mavel X-Files, and it really doesnt work. It does find it's feet in the later seasons tho. The Ghost Rider arc is extremely bad ass, and the effects are better than anything I expected to se on network TV at the time. After that, they kinda jump the shark with the trapped in-space season, and the trapped-in-a-simulation season. But it's still pretty consistently fun. It is pretty fricked that the de-canonized the whole series from the MCU, and Coulson/SHIELD didn't get any fricking part in the big End Game super team up
>It is pretty fricked that the de-canonized the whole series from the MCU, and Coulson/SHIELD didn't get any fricking part in the big End Game super team up
im happy with the shows not being part of the movies, because as we saw from kingpin in hawkeye, they're gonna ruin everything.
Maybe. But AoS itself was already going balls to the wall insane by the last season
sure it was dumb, but they understood how the marvel time travel/multiverse worked more than the mcu movies do.
I still don't get what the hell was Chronicom's plan. They knew when they time travel, you can't change your future since it just diverges to another timeline. Nonetheless they still tried to do Terminator shit to stop SHIELD from forming?
also, why did shield follow them? maybe if they did a "the present is changing, we have to go back and stop them" thing like star trek first contact, it'd make a little more sense, but whatever.
it was probably just a filler season, and they wanted better cameos but only got souza instead of movie actors.
>young hot HAPA ends up with old white man
what did they mean by this
>daisy is so cool, she's just like peggy carter
last minute bullshit, because the movies changed peggy being married to souza to cap, because unearned payoff.
because the majority of the tv show runners, actually like the source material.
>Payoff
I genuinely wished they'd resolve Agent Carter S02's cliffhanger ending, even by a flitting quote, but alas they didn't.
i know. but she's too busy getting in girl boss fights with wanda.
More plausible explanation might be that Chronicoms knew nothing of time travel (since they had to coerce Fitzsimmons to get the formula for machines), and genuinely thought they can change the future.
But Fitz outplayed them by letting them lead to Kora in the process (Who was the key to solve incoming Chronicom invasion)
the only problem is, how is earth the only planet to discover time travel when our tech is so inferior to the rest of the universe?
this is a general sci-fi problem though, where earth is always both a backwater hellhole and yet better than the rest.
And what's worse is that Chronicoms did have Monoliths in their grasps and it was one of them (Enoch) who sent SHIELD on time travel errand utilizing that lmao. But then again Enoch had Robin's help, so I guess that's what made difference?
why didn't they just make her irene adler (destiny)? they already used scorch, who was a mutant. marvel has had the x-men tv license forever.
sorry, unrelated rant.
the monoliths always bothered me. especially the time one just being limestone.
What bothered me more is that they had whole galaxy adventure episodes in S06 but didn't bother to reference space movies like GotG. I mean was it impossible to even namedrop some planets or include some alien species we saw before in the background?
i'm pretty sure abc kept cutting the budgets, because they wanted to cancel it, but disney didn't want them to.
I think the execs were forcing them to not use anything directly related to the MCU by that point
>also, why did shield follow them? maybe if they did a "the present is changing, we have to go back and stop them" thing like star trek first contact, it'd make a little more sense, but whatever.
They didn’t know that their own timeline wouldn’t actually change at first. Also it’s more ethical to stop bad guys from creating fricked up timelines if you can do it. The whole thing was definitely a mess, but it still made more sense than the Season 6 villains.
>but it still made more sense than the Season 6 villains.
that whole season lead to nothing. i don't get it.
that is one thing I think they did very well. Despite all the stupid insane bullshit going on, they managed to tie everything together pretty well with some good through lines. Where as the MCU is kinda "wibbely wobbely timey wimey none of this shit matters anyway"
Comfy
>robot coulson
Say what you want about this show but Hydra theme from it was absolute banger. Made me smile every time it plays when shit's getting real
Stopped watching after they killed Ward.
Which time?
thats when the show got good. frick ward.
*jobs in your path*
>takes your generic hulk background character and turns him into the most destructive sympathetic villain over 5 seasons
tell me why the movies are better?
All I know is a guy betrays the group, feels bad about it, and is like
“Hey guys I feel really bad about being a traitor can I rejoin?”
And they’re like
“No lmao, go frick yourself”
unrelated question. why is marvel studios so bad at making a good show with a high budget?
daredevil season 1 was shot in new york, with good stunts and cinematography, big name actors, great and consistent writing, they even remembered to change the street signs to where in hell's kitchen the characters would be, and was 13 episodes, costing $60,000,000 (the most expensive of all the netflix show)
and hawkeye was kinda shot in new york, mostly on a green screen, with one kinda big young actress, and hawkeye, is mostly cg, coreography and cinematography were shit, writing was shit, and ended horribly, was 6 episodes and cost $200,000,000?
I like how they pretended, that what they did was really important and shit, but in reality any of the avengers would deal with their problems on 10 minutes.
My favorite ridiculous part was the "Real" SHIELD, where they bickered like children with that other group, about who did better job. Except we never saw what that "real shield" group ever did, because apparently they spent all of their time chasing after Coulsons group, who actually DID stuff. Also damn, way to go wasting Edward James Olmos.
this is the "batman is dumb because superman would stop all of his villains easily" argument.
they're all different.
But Batman IS dumb because Superman really would stop all his villains easily.
and spider-man is dumb because eternity can change all of reality. when does it end?
it's called suspension of disbelief in fiction.
How about THETA protocol? Coulson was super secretive about it for a half a season, to the point everyone started to suspect that he's compromised... just to reveal, it was a 4 second long tie in to the Age of Ultron. KEK.
at least joss told his brother what he was planning for avengers 2, and had him put teasers in there.
Teaser that most people didnt even realized was a teaser. They could at least have a cameo of coulson team on the hellicarier.
>They could at least have a cameo of coulson team on the hellicarier.
feigie probably wouldn't allow it. he was salty that he wasn't in control of everything. except when he wasn't in complete control was the best era.
I think they wanted to avoid cheapening his heroic sacrifice from the first Avengers. But yeah, I feel like the as a bare minimum, they could have just had a single helicarrier show up for the End Game fight, and fans could just have fun speculating about who was commanding itat least untill Disney ruined that with a retcon flashbask
they made so many mistakes with endgame.
"Real" SHIELD was probably the silliest subplot on the show, that went absolutely nowhere, as they just got absorbed by Coulson team, and never talked about again. What a waste of Edward James Olmos.
it was just an excuse to split their ranks and distract them while the inhuman female asian magneto can scheme.
lol, that seemed mostly like an excuse to just introduce a bunch of new shield people and resources.
>"Oh, by the way, here's this other, completely secret bunker full of SHIELD shit that we haven't talked about or done anything to establish. They can team up with you if you want"
i wish loeb did a whole tv crossover before disney took it away from him. all the netflix shows, hulu shows, and abc shows in one big event show.
1<2<3<4>5>>6<7
Season 1 was pretty shallow until Winter Soldier happened. Then it got only better as it went along, with Season 4 being highest point for them to go out on. Season 5 was rough, but also not the worst point to go out on, seasons 6 and 7 were dragging too much, at that point they should've given up.
Overall, there are no bad seasons, just first season struggled with its own premise until it got destroyed. Pretty great show, massively overlooked. You could visually see how the team behind the show was going above and beyond with each subsequent season feeling considerably cheaper than previous one, but refusing to stop top quality TV no matter what hand they are dealt with, some of the most amusing bottle episodes in the TV history.
bill paxton's son playing a younger version of his dad's character to literal perfection is one of the most kino things i've ever had the chance to witness
so I stoped at the end of s4, what are the others seasons about? are they worth the time?
Season 5 is half about them being trapped in a post-apocalyptic future and half about them trying to avert it when they get back. It wraps up most of the hanging plot threads like the gravitonium from the 1st season. It’s worth watching.
Seasons 6 and 7 are half seasons that continue the story into a timeline in which the Snap never happened. They’re OK if you like the characters although the plots are a huge mess.
for me, it's Simmons
Quake/Daisy is INSANELY FRICKING HOT.
Fitz-Simmons are based.
Final season time travel stuff is absolute shite.
Coulson is my husbando
Yeah, AOS was pretty cringe show, that try to pretend to be relevant way to long.
Amazing. I’ve watched this for twenty whole minutes now.
>write them out of the show so that they get their own spin off
>gets cancelled before it airs
> Best villain