Alex Ross is a fricking garbage artist and im tired of pretending otherwise. >superheroes but le REALISTIC

Alex Ross is a fricking garbage artist and i’m tired of pretending otherwise.
>superheroes… but le REALISTIC
Has no artistic eye or creative vision besides that. All he draws is people just standing there. Proto-AIslop art.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post art you like.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OP doesn't respond
      as expected

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i agree. quite frankly anyone who can paint realistically could create the same images as him. there's not much thought put into his pieces at all. also funny how marvel uses him now to brand certain runs as being more 'premium' like immortal hulk, fantastic four, immortal thor

      >post art you like so i can make fun of it, regardless of what it is
      why don't you defend alex ross' art instead of trying to deflect the point you pussy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>post art you like so i can make fun of it, regardless of what it is
        Nobody said that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so why is art that op likes relevant to the question of whether or not alex ross is good?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps anon just wanted to know what kind of art liked. No need to assume maliciousness.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly, I remember when I was first getting into comics and older fans suggested Bernie Wrightson, Gene Colan, Bill Sienkiewicz, etc.

              Always enjoy discovering new artists and writers... surely OP has some favorites? I'd love to discuss good artists!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what website are we on again..?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As this anon stated -- >

                Exactly, I remember when I was first getting into comics and older fans suggested Bernie Wrightson, Gene Colan, Bill Sienkiewicz, etc.

                Always enjoy discovering new artists and writers... surely OP has some favorites? I'd love to discuss good artists!

                I love art and I'm a beginner myself. I'd love to know what kind of art others enjoy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just because you CAN shitpost freely doesn't mean you MUST. Feel free to have normal conversations with other fans of comics.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly, I remember when I was first getting into comics and older fans suggested Bernie Wrightson, Gene Colan, Bill Sienkiewicz, etc.

              Always enjoy discovering new artists and writers... surely OP has some favorites? I'd love to discuss good artists!

              okay, my favourites are Dan Mora, Jim Lee and Jason Fabok

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jim Lee is the only one I recognize by name. I liked his X-Men

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hhhaaahahahahaha homie your taste is SHITTY

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for proving the point I made above.
                Op always remember, NEVER share your favorite stuff where critique of another artist is the issue. It is in fact irrelevant and only asked so people can attack you instead because they have no argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I enjoy how you latched onto that one, instead of my post -- >

                Jim Lee is the only one I recognize by name. I liked his X-Men

                Makes me think you're samegayging.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and what about this post?

                >OP doesn't respond
                as expected

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for proving the point I made above.
                Op always remember, NEVER share your favorite stuff where critique of another artist is the issue. It is in fact irrelevant and only asked so people can attack you instead because they have no argument.

                Sameb***h off yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Jason Fabok
                I will never know what you guys like about that guy. It's the most boring, bogstandard, needs more fricking lines style and he makes his women look terrible.

                Not OP but why does Cinemaphile do this?
                >POST YOUR FAVORITE ART SO I CAN SHIT ON IT EVEN HARDER OUT OF SPITE
                Like dude frick off if you have no argument to defend the artist just walk away until someone who does comes into the thread.

                Thanks for proving the point I made above.
                Op always remember, NEVER share your favorite stuff where critique of another artist is the issue. It is in fact irrelevant and only asked so people can attack you instead because they have no argument.

                Nah frick off, it makes me realize what aspects of art people want. OP just likes cool pin up shots of hatchy comic people, fair enough.
                I get not liking realism, but Ross is much better at design and composition than Fabok, better than Lee after the early 90's too.
                There's maybe 2 or 3 iconic or memorable Jim Lee shots since 90's. The Batman/Superman leg up on the gargoyle, Nightwing and Batman from Hush, and the Hush heroes/villain shot. I can't think of a single truly iconic or memorable shot from Hush or all-star outside of the aforementioned images, and those books exists for Jim Lee pinups.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like Fabok bc I see him as like the epitome of current house style for all the good and ill that brings. Wish he had drawn more DC Universe stuff and not Johns weird shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't call Fabok house style, DC barely has artists who draw like that for the last 5 years. Maybe just after New52. Even then I think Ivan Reis was a better example. But generally the Image founder derived look really isn't there anymore.
                I'd say DC house style,in the way we tend to use it now, falls under two main things
                >realistic/ heavily referenced guys who likely use 3D models, has shadows/hadtching but minimal crosshatching
                >manga influenced spanish artists
                I'd say Clay Mann(cause I know that guy is using poser/3D models) and Jorge Jiminez are the two main examples of DC house style these days

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just posting random more recent Ross art

                Oh Ivan Reis is another guy I really like for the same reason and more than Fabok. I get your point about modern DC though. This might just be bc I associate him with Johns and through that the rest of the DCU but Reis and Fabok are to me the best examples of a like late 00s/10s DC style I like.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not OP but why does Cinemaphile do this?
                >POST YOUR FAVORITE ART SO I CAN SHIT ON IT EVEN HARDER OUT OF SPITE
                Like dude frick off if you have no argument to defend the artist just walk away until someone who does comes into the thread.

                Thanks for proving the point I made above.
                Op always remember, NEVER share your favorite stuff where critique of another artist is the issue. It is in fact irrelevant and only asked so people can attack you instead because they have no argument.

                Because if someone says my opinion on taxes is bad and then I ask for their favorite ice cream then that isn't a good argument.

                I will tell you what, as someone who likes Alex Ross(not as a favorite, but I really enjoy his work) and doesn't think the three artists listed are the best, I'm perfectly willing to discuss why I like Ross' work and his strengths beyond realism, and why I'm not that fond of the three OP listed.
                Here's another artist I really like- Norm Breyfogle especially on Batman

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is this Birth of the Demon? Yeah Breyfogle is good

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OP here.
                That wasn’t me that listed those artists.

                I am a big fan of Steve Ditko. Ironically because his style is very realistic, in the sense of movement. His art is not remotely photorealistic, but when I read his Spider-Man, I feel like Spider-Man is a real guy who’s a tremendous gymnast. I feel like I can track his movements from panel to panel. His sense of artistic physiognomy as well, characters have their emotions in their faces. You know when a character is being characterised as greedy, jealous, spiteful, whatever just from their expressions. I’m guessing he developed that skill because he was plotting the book through images and knew he had to put as much as possible in them because Stan might trample over it with his words. People always say Ditko Pete is ugly but he gradually gets more handsome as the run goes on— it’s not bad art, it’s the artist showing his journey as a hero.

                Of course I like a lot of other artists, but I wanted to name one specifically that highlights what I don’t like specifically about Ross. Unlike Ditko, he has zero sense of motion, every panel is stiff, he would rather make everyone handsome and realistic at the expense of expressive face designs. He doesn’t have a creative perspective on how to frame certain things for emotional effect. In ASM #33, for example, we watch a beaten-up Peter limp away into the metaphorical sunset. It’s a pathetic sight because he went through a lot in this arc, and got pushed to his limits, and just lost his gf, and is now completely alone, but the fact that Ditko situates the perspective in Aunt May’s hospital room, where she lies in bed with a smile, after being saved by Spider-Man, encapsulates the simultaneous agony and triumph of Peter’s entire existence. He will always happily let himself come out the loser if it means that the people around him can remain happy and oblivious to his sacrifices.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >post too long

                and inb4 “ditko sucks”, i don’t care if you don’t like him, make a Ditko hate thread, if you don’t like Ditko and want to shit on him and want to engage in whataboutism, it doesn’t negate any of my criticism about Ross.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >post too long

                and inb4 “ditko sucks”, i don’t care if you don’t like him, make a Ditko hate thread, if you don’t like Ditko and want to shit on him and want to engage in whataboutism, it doesn’t negate any of my criticism about Ross.

                I like Ditko a lot, too. Super underrated by more modern fans. You should have made a Ditko appreciation thread instead of Alex Ross hate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hey OP, I'm the guy you're replying to.
                As it turns out, I'm actually a HUGE Ditko fan. When I first got into comics one of the first things I sought out was Ditko's Marvel Visionaries collection. But I don't think as artists Ditko and Ross' approach are diametrically opposed.
                I think you're approaching Ross with a chip on your shoulder. I think the reason you are is you feel like the realism demeans more classic style art as if it's insulting it for being simple. I get that- I have a bad vibe about homage covers for the same reason, they almost feel like boasts a lot of the time (look how much better comic art is NOW!). But I don't always get that feeling from Ross- taking away Ross' painter flourishes the way he composes pages and figurework to me isn't that too far off from classic DC. His covers are one thing, but his actual pages like KC could be done by people like Curt Swan or Don Newton or Jim Aparo- really classic DC guys.
                Is realism part of the appeal- sure,yet clearly other "realistic" painters in comics before and after Ross haven't really managed to his level of iconic work and notability. Take Joe Jusko(pic related) , a painter who was fairly big at marvel in the 70's. His work is good enough technically, he can paint well and realistic- but no one really talks about him the same way they do Ross- because he lacks an iconic, well composed element in his work. Yeah pics of heroes standing might be underwhelming, but subtle aspects like the lighting or body language go a long way.
                Sure- it helps that Ross started his career with Marvels and KC and most other painters in comics have nothing like that- but the draw of Ross' art over there's is his ability to compose these really
                Ironically I think Ross' idealized figures and portrayals are something Ditko would've probably respected since he was huge in art creating glorified figures representing man at his epoch. ( probably hated Kingdom Come as far as writing and subject matter, though)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Jusko art I posted was a homage to Avengers #4. As far as painting skills- it's solid, but I'm sure a lot of people would say it looks ugly or weird. Because it lacks the energy n a very literal translation of Kirby's work. Meanwhile, here's Ross' homage to Kirby's cover. He changes the angle, to get the "leaping at you" feel of Kirby. Kirby's foreshortening language is non-literal, driven by exaggeration, Ross understands that and moves the angle lower to adapt it to his style. On a painting level, he pulls back the level of detail in areas instead of being a slave to hard realism. Even down to the buildings in the background being sparsely detailed shapes to not flatten out the image.
                Kirby's art is still more memorable at the end of the day- but I respect how Ross interprets the work, and his technique. He understands comic language more than most painters who ended up working in comics, both then and especially now where we're flooded with digital pinup artists.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Namor being the villain looming in the background to replicate the cover box with him is so good

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree. This one looks off

                The Jusko art I posted was a homage to Avengers #4. As far as painting skills- it's solid, but I'm sure a lot of people would say it looks ugly or weird. Because it lacks the energy n a very literal translation of Kirby's work. Meanwhile, here's Ross' homage to Kirby's cover. He changes the angle, to get the "leaping at you" feel of Kirby. Kirby's foreshortening language is non-literal, driven by exaggeration, Ross understands that and moves the angle lower to adapt it to his style. On a painting level, he pulls back the level of detail in areas instead of being a slave to hard realism. Even down to the buildings in the background being sparsely detailed shapes to not flatten out the image.
                Kirby's art is still more memorable at the end of the day- but I respect how Ross interprets the work, and his technique. He understands comic language more than most painters who ended up working in comics, both then and especially now where we're flooded with digital pinup artists.

                while this one looks alright.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >happily
                Not happily but you're right about everything else. Peter is ultimately a guy who puts the happiness of others over his own. He will go through hell to ensure that nobody else has to suffer like he did and when things look their worst he can remember that for him there's no such thing as a small victory.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dan Mora is great and I love Jim Lee. Fabok is terrible though. As a fellow Texan, I'm obliged to defend Ross, but I've always liked his work regardless. Kingdom Come is filled with indelible images.

                I was really intrigued by FF Full circle, but I've never been a FF fan. Was the book any good?

                FF Full Circle was great art wise. Very dynamic panelling and great use of color. It even got pretty psychedelic, which is on brand for classic FF. The story was nonsense and unfulfilled, but the art was dynamite.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why don't you defend alex ross' art instead of trying to deflect the point you pussy
        is a helpful reference to see what is your taste, If you go Alex Ross is trash but Chris chan is unironically great.
        There may be a problem

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why don't you defend alex ross' art instead of trying to deflect the point you pussy
        So you admit to having shit tastes. Good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but why does Cinemaphile do this?
      >POST YOUR FAVORITE ART SO I CAN SHIT ON IT EVEN HARDER OUT OF SPITE
      Like dude frick off if you have no argument to defend the artist just walk away until someone who does comes into the thread.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Perhaps anons do not like hypocrisy? After all, art is subjective.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing hypocritical about it.
          >art is subjective
          Yet if no one here can defend Alex Ross then OP is vindicated which is why people resort to asking for their favorites to shit on instead.
          Once again remember everyone:
          NEVER respond with a rec or artist you like.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nothing hypocritical about it.
            Because you say so?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because if someone says my opinion on taxes is bad and then I ask for their favorite ice cream then that isn't a good argument.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you mean by "defend?"
            Taste is subjective, you can't have a debate over taste and somehow "win."

            You say the artist is bad.
            Others say they like said artist.
            ...now you're at a stalemate.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >After all, art is subjective.
          That's what people say when they don't know jack shit about art.
          Art is only partly subjective. There is a strong objective component to all artforms, what you might call the technical dimensions of art. Anatomy and composition are examples of it in the visual arts and grammar is an example in writing, but it goes far beyond those examples and at least in writing I would argue beyond what most layment would recognize as a technical aprt of the craft.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >debate me so I can spam woah le heckin realistically five more times
        if you wanted a discussion you could approach this like an adult instead of this barely above wojak posting shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If someone criticizes an artist but is unwilling to offer up who they think is better it makes their argument seem artificial
        The problem lies in the op offering no real opinion other that “this guy sucks and if you like him you suck”
        Then when you’re unwilling to offer up your opinions to the chopping block of criticism it makes you look even more like you’re full of shit.

        The other big issue is hyperbole
        Alex Ross is in no way a chump or a hack. You may not care for his style of realism and you may feel like drawing from live models is inherently easier than pulling only from imagination. But when you present those ideas in such a homosexual way why then expect people to engage you in a reasonable discussion?

        That’s the problem with a lot of you dumb motherfrickers. You don’t know how to talk without yelling. No one is gonna respect your opinion if you present it like a snide whiny homosexual even if you have a good point or two

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I will give some props to OP for coming back to explain here

          OP here.
          That wasn’t me that listed those artists.

          I am a big fan of Steve Ditko. Ironically because his style is very realistic, in the sense of movement. His art is not remotely photorealistic, but when I read his Spider-Man, I feel like Spider-Man is a real guy who’s a tremendous gymnast. I feel like I can track his movements from panel to panel. His sense of artistic physiognomy as well, characters have their emotions in their faces. You know when a character is being characterised as greedy, jealous, spiteful, whatever just from their expressions. I’m guessing he developed that skill because he was plotting the book through images and knew he had to put as much as possible in them because Stan might trample over it with his words. People always say Ditko Pete is ugly but he gradually gets more handsome as the run goes on— it’s not bad art, it’s the artist showing his journey as a hero.

          Of course I like a lot of other artists, but I wanted to name one specifically that highlights what I don’t like specifically about Ross. Unlike Ditko, he has zero sense of motion, every panel is stiff, he would rather make everyone handsome and realistic at the expense of expressive face designs. He doesn’t have a creative perspective on how to frame certain things for emotional effect. In ASM #33, for example, we watch a beaten-up Peter limp away into the metaphorical sunset. It’s a pathetic sight because he went through a lot in this arc, and got pushed to his limits, and just lost his gf, and is now completely alone, but the fact that Ditko situates the perspective in Aunt May’s hospital room, where she lies in bed with a smile, after being saved by Spider-Man, encapsulates the simultaneous agony and triumph of Peter’s entire existence. He will always happily let himself come out the loser if it means that the people around him can remain happy and oblivious to his sacrifices.

          but he's so out of his depth it's laughable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but I like Joe Kubert.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure thing, midwit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suck my dick you fricking homo.

      >omg… theyre fricking….. le STANDING there!! Hecking realistically!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >omgggg frigging awesomesauce!! more slop where superheroes are looking hecking REALISTIC and standing there looking at me!!

        is that…. Le frigging REALISTIC superheroes standing there and looking at me???

        Alex Ross shots like this are all influenced by photographer Mick Rock. His whole style was taking these iconic shots of musicians lookig aloof and otherworldly, larger than life and stoic
        All those shots of heroes looking down on you? Ross loves doing that because his favorite band is Queen. He's drawing the superhero equivalent of an album cover or photoshoot.
        He can do much more, but he's fond of this shot and why he comes back to it so often(and after he did the initial pieces, everyone wanted one with the other teams)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >omgggg frigging awesomesauce!! more slop where superheroes are looking hecking REALISTIC and standing there looking at me!!

        I like how this is 90% the same with the characters even posed the same way. The only dierence is that the man and woman are swapped and Wanda's arms are crossed. I'm sure some gay will probably say "NOOOOOO IT'S INTENTIONAL HE'S REFERENCING HIMSELF" at which I'll say a.) that's dumb and b.) that's incredibly arrogant and self-indulgent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope harder, midwit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The core of superheroes is celebrating the human form and humanity at it's physical and mental peak. If witnessing human bodies that look like human bodies is actually offensive to you than you need to find a different medium ASAP. Because what do you even like about superhero comics? The fact that you insult my intelligence by using fancy words like "artistic vision" and "eye for creativity" hurts more and you salt the wound even further by cherry picking examples of people standing around, all while ignoring the greater body of Alex's work. The raw dishonesty and bad faith on display here is too much to bear when anyone with eyes and an internet connection can prove you wrong in a fraction of a second. But no, where supposed to humor your nonsense, we are supposed to go play along just so you can get your 5 seconds of relevance. Cinemaphile has really gone to shit over the last decade hasn't it? Why am I even asking? Of course it has!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, the core of superheroes is that they're fricking HERIOC and are SUPPOSED to be status quo disruptors, but they got corpotizated in the mid 40s and no longer beat the shit out of politicians as often as they should.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actual pleb take, Superheroes are the revival of Greek Demigods and heroes in modern form. As such they are the physical, mental and moral peak of what a human can achieve. "Status Quo disruptor" is such a nothing definition because taking a shit in the middle of a crowded street is a "disruption" as much as punching out a lobbyist would be.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the existance of actual demigods wouldnt disrupt the whole geopolitical panorama
              >most capeshit characteres end up being glorified spooks
              brainlet take, Miracleman had the right idea. Krakoa too but the execution and character handling was absolute shit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Miracleman had the right idea
                Moore in general had the right idea. He had different approaches in his ABC line as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All this time and its only now that I see Goliath in the background.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >omgggg frigging awesomesauce!! more slop where superheroes are looking hecking REALISTIC and standing there looking at me!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suck my dick you fricking homo.

      >omg… theyre fricking….. le STANDING there!! Hecking realistically!!!

      is that…. Le frigging REALISTIC superheroes standing there and looking at me???

      >holy rick and morty batman!!! theyre standing there and looking at me!! REALISTICALLY!!!

      Alex Ross is a talentless Black person.

      >complain about static art
      >post covers

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is that…. Le frigging REALISTIC superheroes standing there and looking at me???

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >holy rick and morty batman!!! theyre standing there and looking at me!! REALISTICALLY!!!

    Alex Ross is a talentless Black person.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alex Ross hate is so dated. Saying he just paints what he sees is ignorant of the process. Ross clearly has an eye for composition, even negating his technical skills in actually painting. It may seem underwhelming but there's a lot to be said of the attitude and emotion infused in simple poses.
    There are far, far worse painters in comics. I'd much rather have Ross than the soulless digital painters that fill comic covers these days and have no sense of composition, storytelling, or character and just crap out hyper glossy, obnoxious looking art.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is up with Venom's face? Is he pretending to be a chink?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We're gonna #StopAsianHate

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to agree but ever since around 2010 he leveled the frick up and just keeps getting better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was really intrigued by FF Full circle, but I've never been a FF fan. Was the book any good?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but I thought it was pretty good, altough this is coming from an FF fan. Ross' art gets a lot more experimental than his previous work due to the coloring being basically silver age aesthetics applied to his phot realism, plus the story is set in the negative zone which allows him to play with a bit of surrealism. But again, I do think the enjoyment of the book is far stronger if you're an FF fan, specially since it's a sequel to a story from the Kirby run (This Man, This Monster).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ross' fantastic 4 run has been brilliant. The comic itself is unreadable.
      Ever since he stopped fanboying for the Super Friends, his art has just been on another level. Even his non painted stuff like Full Circle is great.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The comic itself is unreadable.

        >universally hailed as the best FF run in ages outside of Cinemaphile

        Good to know you still can't spell " contrarian" without Cinemaphile

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew we has crossover with Cinemaphile, but I never realized how much

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you seen his new Fantastic Four comic? It's a masterpiece that refutes every complaint people have made about him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because op is complaining about cover art and not the actual comic art which was the simplest rebuttal anyone could have said but instead you know the usual.

      >Jason Fabok
      I will never know what you guys like about that guy. It's the most boring, bogstandard, needs more fricking lines style and he makes his women look terrible.
      [...]
      [...]
      Nah frick off, it makes me realize what aspects of art people want. OP just likes cool pin up shots of hatchy comic people, fair enough.
      I get not liking realism, but Ross is much better at design and composition than Fabok, better than Lee after the early 90's too.
      There's maybe 2 or 3 iconic or memorable Jim Lee shots since 90's. The Batman/Superman leg up on the gargoyle, Nightwing and Batman from Hush, and the Hush heroes/villain shot. I can't think of a single truly iconic or memorable shot from Hush or all-star outside of the aforementioned images, and those books exists for Jim Lee pinups.

      What do you mean by "defend?"
      Taste is subjective, you can't have a debate over taste and somehow "win."

      You say the artist is bad.
      Others say they like said artist.
      ...now you're at a stalemate.

      >keeping up an image to pretend like

      hhhaaahahahahaha homie your taste is SHITTY

      isn't a common post in reply to this stuff
      Never falling for the "what do you like" fed op you'll get recs from me out of my cold dead bloated corpse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you'll get recs from me out of my cold dead bloated corpse.
        This is an insane mindset. You are not a keeper of esoteric knowledge, you're a lonely narcissist who couldn't communicate politely to end your own suffering. You're a Daniel Clowes character.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alex Ross made the abysmal 70s tv Justice League look cool. He’s also as good at painting the 60s Batman as any human as ever been at anything.
    So he’s hip in my book, Jack.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved the covers he did for Waid's Green Hornet series. His style works really well for noir/pulp stuff

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For most comic fans realism = good so despite the fact his art has all the dynamism of a block of wood, despite his characters looking ugly because they're based off of his mediocre friends and neighbors, despite being a poor man's Norman Rockwell with shit coloring, it's realistic so it's good.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And I would have forgiven all of that if he didn't let Starfire have a kid with anyone but Beast boy.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still curious what disasters he had planned for the Battle of the Planets comic before its plug was pulled. He talked a lot about how he designed some special OC superheroes for it, and it's been over 20 years but he's yet to ever show those concepts.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are a giant gay.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’d agree if I didn’t see his Fantastic 4, which is great.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    COPE

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He became ruined for me after I saw what he looked like and then I realised that every face in his work is just him.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have you ever seen his house tho? lamps all over the fricking floor

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /co/mblr hates anything they can't jerk off to

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's true that European comics are better, that's accurate. But what does that have to do with this thread? Alex Ross isn't European.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's true that European comics are better
        not really tbh
        t. euro

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dissagree
          t. also euro

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lopibats you are disgrace to Cinemaphile

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's true that European comics are better
        Not really.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We get it, you have shit taste

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Ross. His style works best for characters like Superman and the Fantastic Four, but he also did great with redesigns like Kingdom Come Flash, Kingdom Come Green Lantern, and Earth X Black Bolt.
    I also think Ditko is pretty great.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have no soul if you can't see the intensity of pic related

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would you hold it by the ears ffs

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KYS hipster

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, you are garbage. In fact you are a trash can.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I rather read Alex Ross comic runs than whatever modern crap wine sippin cat ladies make these days.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >realistic
    Is OP fricking moronic?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gays like you only enable the publishers to get away with shitty art.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is there a random normal lady on the far right? Did he put his neighbor in there as a gag or something?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's old-ass Donna Troy

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Still judging alex ross by his 90s work and b***hing about it on a filipino stamp collecting forum because nobody will give him attention in meatspace.

    Midwit mentality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be stupid anon, morons like OP don't actually read Alex Ross' work, they just see a couple of pieces of promo art like the groupshots looking at camera and think that's all he CAN do and not realize that's just what he was ASKED to do at the time. Cinemaphile doesn't read comics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and not realize that's just what he was ASKED to do at the time.
        This reminds me of how some people on Cinemaphile have this narrative that Frank Cho lost his mind and just did outrage covers for years- when people were PAYING him to do so because people wanted their own stupid gag cover. Yeah it was dumb but collectors tend to be almost competitive and all want their own piece of the pie.
        Meanwhile Cho was still doing regular art and commissions at the same time.
        The world of comic art commissions and buying original art is basically far beyond Cinemaphile(because it involves spending big money)

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow. OP got BTFO.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am awaiting the day where AI can make an alex-ross styled animation

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >opinion that lacks uniqueness
    >limited vocabulary
    We used to call people like you "invalids."

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