>People on Cinemaphile are still maintaining the charade that this is an entertaining comic, and now a pornographic one gone wrong by attempting to inject shallow character drama and now failing in both regards
Two ways to write a good story:
Have positive character who are relatable enough and glad they can push through struggles you could find yourself in
or
Have a miserable cunt so entertainably shitty, you are glad that you're nothing like her
At one point I genuinely worried we'd lose InCase to Image, but thankfully his fucking atrocious writing on the only thing he's ever done or will that isn't lesbian dickgirls has imploded so hard that we have no fear of him going mainstream
It would at least solve the argument point of “YOURE CHEATING ON DAD”. Literally just has to say “we’ve separated Alfie. Your father prefers the company of your Uncle Steve. And this wasn’t planned, we just found each other”
But Alfie is just losing her mind at this stage anyway. It’s hard to imagine Alfie coming back from this, she’s just going to descend into Goblin mode where she’s does nothing but have angry sex and spits out new babies. One will eventually have the intelligence to leave her and go find her grandparents where she can be raised in happiness, whilst Alfie won’t even care she’s left.
InCase more or less said crossbreeding isn’t possible with a vast majority of the races in Alfie’s world, though goblins being a unisex race may be the exception.
I think lack of crossbreeding is precisely why there is peace among all the races in his setting. When racial purity just isn't a lasting reminder of war-rape, it means the various races can just immediately get on track to getting over their cultural and national differences.
I think the implied goblin genocide suggests that the race that perpetuated the genocide viewed their unsustainable reproduction as a legitimate and serious issue in regards to local stability and ecology, which is something you'd expect Nazis to say except in this case seeing the goblins having zero self-control or sense you can forgive anybody for thinking that way about them.
It's not even just that. The goblins are hiding something ( possibly their means of reproduction ) but are also the only known race so far in setting that can stop the horny goat forest shit from spreading with their giant mushrooms.
I don't really think the goblins are hiding anything we haven't seen the evidence for already because it's the end of the story. It's possible that the goblins are responsible for gross overpopulation as well as spreading the mushroom, both ecological disasters that individually would justify their genocide.
If I were writing this I suspect Alduin's whole mission is to bring all the races into cooperation. Making peace with the goats could then lead to to management of the redwood in exchange for trade and timber exports. And I suspect Alduin has no idea how much a threat the goblins are but the solution would be the same as the goats. But it wouldn't be surprising to learn that the diplomatic option doesn't work with the goblins and the stupid fuckers can't self-govern themselves or the mushrooms, hence the need to kill all of them off.
Met a sweet girl who was stunningly hostile to most girls, she only had two friends that were girls as they knew her family. She testified that groups of girls in any shape or form is the factory for all bitches in existence since all they do is affirm each other unless they collectively decide to single one out which is a "sport" for them.
I know that. The most common enemy for a girl is another girl. Girls say the world would be peaceful if they took over, horseshit. The world would be divided into microstates, forever at odds.
>"LEAVE ME ALONE! GO AWAY!" >literally the only reason they're having this conversation is because Alfie chased after them and "saved" them from mugger goblins(?) >because she was fucking pissed that not only did her mom not recognize her, but also just walked right by her
Do women really?
>"LEAVE ME ALONE! GO AWAY!" >literally the only reason they're having this conversation is because Alfie chased after them and "saved" them from mugger goblins(?) >because she was fucking pissed that not only did her mom not recognize her, but also just walked right by her
Do women really?
The goblins weren’t muggers. They just saw a tall man and started craving the dick. Him having PTSD over whore houses made him extra uncomfortable, making him an even more tempting target for the gobbos to tease.
I shouldn't be disappointed but I still am. It's so cliche and predictable and they still haven't fucked. I'm gonna be honest I don't really remember why Alfie hates her mom so much, it's been so long.
So they're just doubling down on Alfie being an irredeemable cunt, awesome. Maybe she'll die on the next page from Mad Cunt Disease and Vera and Mountain Man can adopt Ozge to finally know what it's like to have a child that isn't an abhorrent piece of shit.
So they're just doubling down on Alfie being an irredeemable cunt, awesome. Maybe she'll die on the next page from Mad Cunt Disease and Vera and Mountain Man can adopt Ozge to finally know what it's like to have a child that isn't an abhorrent piece of shit.
Not to be reasonable or anything, but there are obviously two ways to look at this. Anybody that experience any kind of serious abuse and got away is likely going to see allies's point. I endured far worse than she did, and also had relatives that wouldn't fuck off. I can't help but side with her- even if maybe she's going a little overboard. it's almost a reflex.
Others from better situations can't imagine Anything their mother could do to forever alienate them- because she probably wouldn't ever do such a thing. their reflex is to side with Vera.
nobody's really wrong here and there isn't really a reason to fling shit at each other. It's just different points of view.
Anyway, to you anons with awesome moms- feel my envy.
>abuse
This bitch was told to not be a whore. The problem with coming of age story shit is the main character doing stupid shit is annoying. If she was actually abused or hurt then her actions would have that grey weight. I didn't know not sucking cock was so traumatic.
Well you do't sound reasonable, you sound like you're projecting onto Alfie. Vera was strict and suffocating but ultimately never as far to be abusive. Even Pickering's shittiness is ultimately toothless since they'll humiliate their own people but then pretend it never happened after a bit. We see Alfie's thought process and everytime she's so close to getting it she doubles down and cries how the situation is just impossible since she can't have her cake of "being with her slut friends" and "keeping up appearances with people she doesn't like". Now we see her actively seeing Vera isn't acting like the woman from Pickering, she's coming to her in a way she never would have back home, and the reaction is to be a doubly big bitch about it. It's completely fair to see Aflie as a moron, maybe a realistic one but a frustrating one none the less.
What abuse? The only thing they forbade her was to become the town whore and Vera was right, she literally caught her daughter kissing a married woman.
That's the thing. She was caught kissing a married woman and was fucking a human guy ( Marco ) on the side. Then when push came to shove and it was out that she, Ozge, Lydia, and Marco were essentially a polygamous pod she freaked the fuck out because she's a literal hick who's never been outside of Pickering instead of telling the hypocrites off.
Vera wasn’t even abusive. She was strict about meeting work orders because she was training Alfie to take over the family business, but she also gave Alfie plenty of rope to work from.
The only bit that can be taken as abuse is reacting to Alfie sleeping with another woman (who might have been married, I can’t remember), but it’s hard to gauge if that was Vera being homophobic or being scared of Alfie being shunned like Vera has always been with how close-minded the villagers were. But then Alfie herself was a hypocrite about opinions over others sex lives herself for throwing tomatoes at that cultured man who liked his women tall and curvy
>(who might have been married, I can’t remember)
Yes, she was married and everyone knew it, I'm not surprised that Vera got so angry, the whole town would blame her daughter for ruining a marriage and Alfie's friend didn't hesitate to betray her the moment the truth came out.
IDK why the fuck Alfie is the main character and is such a raging cunt. Im sad the comic stop putting the smarmy femboy elf on display and hot milf Vera action.
Vera clearly should've been the protagonist.
I really wish Incase would do more with drama then characters yelling nonsense for no reason.Or just keep it strictly porn.
There's entire chapters where Vera is the protagonist, and she is definitely more compelling.
Vera wasn’t even abusive. She was strict about meeting work orders because she was training Alfie to take over the family business, but she also gave Alfie plenty of rope to work from.
The only bit that can be taken as abuse is reacting to Alfie sleeping with another woman (who might have been married, I can’t remember), but it’s hard to gauge if that was Vera being homophobic or being scared of Alfie being shunned like Vera has always been with how close-minded the villagers were. But then Alfie herself was a hypocrite about opinions over others sex lives herself for throwing tomatoes at that cultured man who liked his women tall and curvy
Vera wasn't *that* outright abusive, but she was projecting her own trauma unto Alfie. So Alfie got the baggage of her mom being forced to stay because of her, of her mom being cheated on by her gay dad, and of basically all of Pickering looking down on her.
I'd say correction is needed on this Alfie brat but correction is what she seeks and her main motivation so that might not help at all. Quite a gripping conundrum tbh.
what is the name of this kind interpersonal drama that is everywhere in adult animated sitcoms and such? it's like intergenerational trauma + really bad dialogue + not being entertaining + pretending to be deep + you can tell the author doesn't read books
I can’t remember any of their names but >bad luck guy is best boy by far, and the building of the wholesome relationship between him and the pure bossy girl who balances out that bad luck is the best part of this whole thing. There was a point where I wanted her to get fully mind broken in a mass orgy, now I just want them to be loyal to each other, maybe bringing in their twink mutual friend every now and again >every scene with the redhead nerd is diamonds inducing >chubby reporter girl, Indian girl with one of the Switch ghosts, fat prank girl, tall stoner girl, and Brie/Bria/black Afro girl, and the vice principal I also like >the twins, other black girl, and girl who goes crazy at the sight of cum are alright. The rest of the lads are mostly ok, though the only other ones aside from bad luck and twink that jump out are nerd boy, big dumb jock, Asian dude fucking the vice-principal, chill black jock, the pure as snow principal, the lumberjack stepdad, and the ever suffering Brazilian lad >crazy bitch who bosses around the twins, lolsorandom Nurse and most of the other adults are shit >the main girl from Switch continues to be the absolute worst girl, though she’s nowhere near as bad as the guy who now has Switch who is the worst person yet has the personality of cardboard and doesn’t have the visuals of a big titty blonde girl to save him
>no labored, shitty plot >characters are fun even when they're not fucking >huge amount of SEX in a PORN comic
I mean yea, it's not even a competition.
make way for the superior webcomic
He should have used an all new cast rather having some characters from part 1 returning. Like why even bring Casey back? Sure shes not AS crazy as she used to be but id say shes regressing + now her friend Bria is more serious about her stepdad and making more progress with him than her
The bad luck dude and the prude bossy girl are mad cute tho, i want more of them
Vera should pull out the secret weapon of every woman: Start crying. Bitch Alfie has no defences against it, she hasn't dealt how to deal with bitches yet.
Cry Vera, cry! Maybe we'll see if Nolan will be defenseless to it and she'll be able to use it later on him.
I think the fact Bob has a home, a car, a shirt and tie job, and numerous professional/domesticated women who are aching to jump on his dick every waking moment means that Bob likely lives a life that is reserved for multi-millionaires in our own world. He has more nice days than we could possibly dream of.
I think everyone can agree that having sex until you pass out from exhaustion is probably among the highest sensations anybody can experience - a sensation that never gets old. And Bob gets that pretty much every day. He's good and he has a healthy heart from it too.
Bob loves his wife, but clearly feels awkward when his responsibilities also involve pleasing his step-daughter (who has a boyfriend AND girlfriend of her own anyway), step-son (who he just wants a normal relationship with), and step-mother. Not to mention his futa niece will visit and fuck his wife and he just has to accept it.
The only Bob art where he is truly happy is when he’s with his wife.
I haven't kept up with this webcomic for like a good while. Is Alfie still an insufferable cunt? Is Vera stil best girl? Do Marco and Lydia admit they got feelings for each other and start a family?
You are under no obligation to welcome back and "hear out" family members that treated you badly. You're certainly not required to listen as they explain why adultery was okay when they did it, after driving you out for being sexually active.
I've worked on a suicide hotline. I am extremely confident that people should not feel obligated to welcome back and "hear out" family members they left home to get away from.
Vera was a cunt to Alfie first. If Alfie wants to be forgiving she can... but she doesn't have to. Alfie never saw Vera's character growth and shouldn't be expected to just assume Vera's a better person after an "I'm sorry."
True, but you can flip that around. Alfie is a fucking trainwreck because she was raised very very badly by Vera and Derik. Deeply fucked up family and a very repressive and bitter upbringing. Lo and behold she ended up maladjusted with shit-tier problem-solving skills!
Vera been shown to be great to alfie in literally every flashback. The shit with Melly was the only incident. The biggest problem was the rest of the town.
It's delightful how Cinemaphile is full of people who complain whenever Questionable Content immediately resolves any conflict within days and also people who complain when Alfie doesn't do that. She may be the main character, but she's a bad person and always has been. A lying, dishonorable sneaky rat who's driven away all her friends with her underhanded behavior. The goblins are where she belongs. A main character doesn't have to be dynamic. Sometimes being static is the point. This journey has been about her finding her place as opposed to growing as a person.
To be fair, we don't actually want to see extended drama from Jeph.
If he can't write a decent one-to-two page drama, why would we expect him to write a good 10-20 page one?
I swear half the anti vera people in the comments are projecting their experiences onto Alfie and swearing Vera MUST have been terrible all the time. Not to mention Alfie is fully justified because of the incident but Vera blowing up had no justification despite everything Derek has done.
Part of that is Vera implied to be more of bitch than she is shown to be. She was was fine with alduin it wasn't until the early cilian interactions that we see her acting out and even then it could be partially attributed to her desperation to find Alfie. We have a town that hated her family, her one friend pretending to love her and using her as a beard for his real relationship, years of being cheated on and yet we still have Derek and Alfie acting like she brought it on herself by not being nicer. Vera should have been meaner for that kind of plot.
Yeah she needed more of that. Incase knew her being a bitch to the guy cheating on her wouldn't sell her as a bitch, especially when she still chose him and Alfie over leaving with the caravan. Her interactions were pretty limited starting out because Alfie got most the screen time while Vera was more background and sex scenes.
Vera has also had a mini adventure and has been travelling with a man who even in her worries over her daughter, he has allowed her to live out her dreams of a more adventurous life. She’s softened up because she’s not wearing a mask anymore. Whilst Alfie has turned rotten by trying to figure out who she wants to be
Please let the next page feature her getting the shit slapped out of her by either Vera or Cilian.
If there’s one thing I can’t stand in a story, it’s a protagonist who the author is constantly pushing for us to like despite being fundamentally unlikable.
And Alfie is not a likable character in any way shape or form. She’s selfish, impulsive, manipulative and cowardly. Worst of all, she’s had no significant character development or growth, other than turning into a raging cunt.
Honestly, I think it’s pretty telling that it wasn’t until she met the goblins that she finally found the place where she can just be herself.
Sorry InCase, but you’ve dedicated an entire story to a character that nobody likes or cares about.
Does anyone else think that InCase has deliberately made Alfie this unlikable in response to how many of his readers actively shit on her whenever she takes center stage?
The worst girl meme has been going since alfie got mad at Marco for suggesting she shouldn't wander outside the caravan alone. Didn't feel like incase was leaning into it until after he realize the ship with Ozge was unpopular. iirc he's been planning a bad/bittersweet end for a while. Plus he could be venting his own frustrations since he has been burn out on this comic for a long time. That's why he has taken so many breaks and slowed down to two updates a week.
>Plus he could be venting his own frustrations since he has been burn out on this comic for a long time.
Well maybe next time plan out the fucking story beforehand then stick to it or just go back to chicks with dicks vignettes like DTiberius
Does anyone else think that InCase has deliberately made Alfie this unlikable in response to how many of his readers actively shit on her whenever she takes center stage?
I think Alfie's supposed to have a "mean girls"-esque "quiet unassuming girl leaves her comfort zone and tries new things she never tried but over time it becomes apparent that lifestyle pushes her more negative attributes making her an unlikable person to both her former friends and her current friends.
The problem is the pacing of Alfie is VERY slow by design so we're seeing that story happen in SLOW MOTION. Either that or we're just watching the fall of a character from a nice farm girl to piece of shit but I don't think that's a story anyone really wants?
Alfie was never nice. She threw tomatoes at that human-fucking havlin in the stocks. Vera was shocked that she would do such a thing and rationalized that action as someone else forcing her to do it, but no, she's just a rotten person.
I'm in the minority but honestly I love Alfie. Like...Alfie sucks but I like girls who suck. She's not the easiest character to root for but also she hasn't done anything so bad that I just...hate her.
idk I feel like most anons in this thread expect this comic to be something it is not
Alfie having negative character development is not a new thing, this comic from around its start has had moments where Alfie comes to wrong conclusions about how she should be and should behave
people that complain she's had zero development have not been paying attention, she's been getting worse. her arc is negative, her stress and troubles mounting until this very point, the climax of her being a fucking bitch
>degenerate straights
Isn't half the comic bi? The elves, The goats, The snakes, Melly, Alfie, Lydia, Even Marco sucked a dick. Probably could have had more stuff with Alduin if they plot line of Alfie working for him didn't evaporate into thin air.
Yeah >FOR degenerate straights
Lesbians, femdom and the occasional bi orgy are still firmly in the realm of appealing to "straight" guys. I just want hot sweaty man sex with Cillian and another dilf or better yet a Cillian solo scene.
Hence my lament. Don't get me wrong, I still like the rest would be down for that even if its not ideal. There's a reason I keep up with this comic and the family drama is only a small part of it. But still a bi-chad into bears can dream.
Alfie only having one sex scene in the gobbo make up and not banging any of the multiple larger than human guys is a crime. Her best look is wasted on all this drama. Hopefully after the series is over he still does the occasional short porn story with some of the characters that only got one or no scene.
>People on Cinemaphile are still maintaining the charade that this is an entertaining comic, and now a pornographic one gone wrong by attempting to inject shallow character drama and now failing in both regards
Two ways to write a good story:
Have positive character who are relatable enough and glad they can push through struggles you could find yourself in
or
Have a miserable cunt so entertainably shitty, you are glad that you're nothing like her
At one point I genuinely worried we'd lose InCase to Image, but thankfully his fucking atrocious writing on the only thing he's ever done or will that isn't lesbian dickgirls has imploded so hard that we have no fear of him going mainstream
Alfie is so mad things didn't went the direction she wanted lmao
You know it's starting to occur to me that like 90% of the problems in this comic would be solved if she just told Alfie her dad's a fag.
would they?
Be honest, the problem is mom cant handle her boring life and needed daughter to be as miserable.
Its a tale as old as time.
A lesson you should take with you in your daily life.
It would at least solve the argument point of “YOURE CHEATING ON DAD”. Literally just has to say “we’ve separated Alfie. Your father prefers the company of your Uncle Steve. And this wasn’t planned, we just found each other”
But Alfie is just losing her mind at this stage anyway. It’s hard to imagine Alfie coming back from this, she’s just going to descend into Goblin mode where she’s does nothing but have angry sex and spits out new babies. One will eventually have the intelligence to leave her and go find her grandparents where she can be raised in happiness, whilst Alfie won’t even care she’s left.
InCase more or less said crossbreeding isn’t possible with a vast majority of the races in Alfie’s world, though goblins being a unisex race may be the exception.
I think lack of crossbreeding is precisely why there is peace among all the races in his setting. When racial purity just isn't a lasting reminder of war-rape, it means the various races can just immediately get on track to getting over their cultural and national differences.
I think the implied goblin genocide suggests that the race that perpetuated the genocide viewed their unsustainable reproduction as a legitimate and serious issue in regards to local stability and ecology, which is something you'd expect Nazis to say except in this case seeing the goblins having zero self-control or sense you can forgive anybody for thinking that way about them.
It's not even just that. The goblins are hiding something ( possibly their means of reproduction ) but are also the only known race so far in setting that can stop the horny goat forest shit from spreading with their giant mushrooms.
I don't really think the goblins are hiding anything we haven't seen the evidence for already because it's the end of the story. It's possible that the goblins are responsible for gross overpopulation as well as spreading the mushroom, both ecological disasters that individually would justify their genocide.
If I were writing this I suspect Alduin's whole mission is to bring all the races into cooperation. Making peace with the goats could then lead to to management of the redwood in exchange for trade and timber exports. And I suspect Alduin has no idea how much a threat the goblins are but the solution would be the same as the goats. But it wouldn't be surprising to learn that the diplomatic option doesn't work with the goblins and the stupid fuckers can't self-govern themselves or the mushrooms, hence the need to kill all of them off.
Worse girl.
This happens when you have too much free, pointless, passionless sex. You become a villain.
How would you know?
When was the last time you tried dating a woman?
Met a sweet girl who was stunningly hostile to most girls, she only had two friends that were girls as they knew her family. She testified that groups of girls in any shape or form is the factory for all bitches in existence since all they do is affirm each other unless they collectively decide to single one out which is a "sport" for them.
I know that. The most common enemy for a girl is another girl. Girls say the world would be peaceful if they took over, horseshit. The world would be divided into microstates, forever at odds.
Anyway, that wasn't what I was getting at.
I have a whore mother, whore sister, and had to deal with her friends.
>This happens when you have too much free, pointless, passionless sex. You become a villain.
Alduin still seems like he's doing fine. Same with Lydia.
Okay I haven't read this in a couple years. Why does she look like a completely different character?
goblins
she's disguised as a goblin
She’s in greenface.
>"LEAVE ME ALONE! GO AWAY!"
>literally the only reason they're having this conversation is because Alfie chased after them and "saved" them from mugger goblins(?)
>because she was fucking pissed that not only did her mom not recognize her, but also just walked right by her
Do women really?
Have you forgotten that Alfie is a fucking idiot on top of an Emotional Idiot too?
You're right
You, too, are right
Women do really
Unironically yes. Some bitches simply look for trouble and to kick off drama
Alfie has been a snake eating her own tail since she left Pickering, this is hardly new.
Tbh, this is probably the most realistic porn EVER:
>woman causes her own problems
thats it, nothing more to say.
>cheating? cuz of a hissy fit
>lying? cuz of a hissy fit
>abandoning friends, family, lover, etc? cuz of a hissy fit
Its realistic, and my dick enjoys it too
The goblins weren’t muggers. They just saw a tall man and started craving the dick. Him having PTSD over whore houses made him extra uncomfortable, making him an even more tempting target for the gobbos to tease.
I shouldn't be disappointed but I still am. It's so cliche and predictable and they still haven't fucked. I'm gonna be honest I don't really remember why Alfie hates her mom so much, it's been so long.
you want alfie and her mom to bang????
perfect ending.
NTA but yes I do. Very much.
So they're just doubling down on Alfie being an irredeemable cunt, awesome. Maybe she'll die on the next page from Mad Cunt Disease and Vera and Mountain Man can adopt Ozge to finally know what it's like to have a child that isn't an abhorrent piece of shit.
ITT: anons who can't imagine cutting the apron strings.
What did he mean by this?
I was just being a dick.
Wait a minute. Alfie's wearing the camp clothes from Baldur's Gate 3!
That must be a coincidence. Its gotta be!
Porn copying porn is nothing new
Not to be reasonable or anything, but there are obviously two ways to look at this. Anybody that experience any kind of serious abuse and got away is likely going to see allies's point. I endured far worse than she did, and also had relatives that wouldn't fuck off. I can't help but side with her- even if maybe she's going a little overboard. it's almost a reflex.
Others from better situations can't imagine Anything their mother could do to forever alienate them- because she probably wouldn't ever do such a thing. their reflex is to side with Vera.
nobody's really wrong here and there isn't really a reason to fling shit at each other. It's just different points of view.
Anyway, to you anons with awesome moms- feel my envy.
>allies
>Alfie
fuck you autocorrect.
>abuse
This bitch was told to not be a whore. The problem with coming of age story shit is the main character doing stupid shit is annoying. If she was actually abused or hurt then her actions would have that grey weight. I didn't know not sucking cock was so traumatic.
Well you do't sound reasonable, you sound like you're projecting onto Alfie. Vera was strict and suffocating but ultimately never as far to be abusive. Even Pickering's shittiness is ultimately toothless since they'll humiliate their own people but then pretend it never happened after a bit. We see Alfie's thought process and everytime she's so close to getting it she doubles down and cries how the situation is just impossible since she can't have her cake of "being with her slut friends" and "keeping up appearances with people she doesn't like". Now we see her actively seeing Vera isn't acting like the woman from Pickering, she's coming to her in a way she never would have back home, and the reaction is to be a doubly big bitch about it. It's completely fair to see Aflie as a moron, maybe a realistic one but a frustrating one none the less.
What abuse? The only thing they forbade her was to become the town whore and Vera was right, she literally caught her daughter kissing a married woman.
That's the thing. She was caught kissing a married woman and was fucking a human guy ( Marco ) on the side. Then when push came to shove and it was out that she, Ozge, Lydia, and Marco were essentially a polygamous pod she freaked the fuck out because she's a literal hick who's never been outside of Pickering instead of telling the hypocrites off.
Alfie's worst enemy is literally herself.
Vera wasn’t even abusive. She was strict about meeting work orders because she was training Alfie to take over the family business, but she also gave Alfie plenty of rope to work from.
The only bit that can be taken as abuse is reacting to Alfie sleeping with another woman (who might have been married, I can’t remember), but it’s hard to gauge if that was Vera being homophobic or being scared of Alfie being shunned like Vera has always been with how close-minded the villagers were. But then Alfie herself was a hypocrite about opinions over others sex lives herself for throwing tomatoes at that cultured man who liked his women tall and curvy
>(who might have been married, I can’t remember)
Yes, she was married and everyone knew it, I'm not surprised that Vera got so angry, the whole town would blame her daughter for ruining a marriage and Alfie's friend didn't hesitate to betray her the moment the truth came out.
I feel we are in "Degenerate author is writing his personal conflict with his own parent(s)" part of this webcomic.
IDK why the fuck Alfie is the main character and is such a raging cunt. Im sad the comic stop putting the smarmy femboy elf on display and hot milf Vera action.
Vera clearly should've been the protagonist.
I really wish Incase would do more with drama then characters yelling nonsense for no reason.Or just keep it strictly porn.
There's entire chapters where Vera is the protagonist, and she is definitely more compelling.
Vera wasn't *that* outright abusive, but she was projecting her own trauma unto Alfie. So Alfie got the baggage of her mom being forced to stay because of her, of her mom being cheated on by her gay dad, and of basically all of Pickering looking down on her.
I'd say correction is needed on this Alfie brat but correction is what she seeks and her main motivation so that might not help at all. Quite a gripping conundrum tbh.
Aflie has never been punched in the face and it really shows.
I genuinely would love to see how she handles it. Like a genuine "you can't do that! THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES!" white girl reality check moment.
what is the name of this kind interpersonal drama that is everywhere in adult animated sitcoms and such? it's like intergenerational trauma + really bad dialogue + not being entertaining + pretending to be deep + you can tell the author doesn't read books
It's the "I wish Dan Harmon had never been born" effect.
did he really start this whole "very serious emotional conflict" bs
I want to say Millennial Writing but there's not enough quips, maybe Millennial Drama?
>tfw no havlin wife
>tfw no other man’s havlin wife
Vera and cillian should just make another child that isn't a total retard, definitely better than what incestfags want
This. I want to go back to comfy Vera and Cillian time
Vera has no reason to go back to her gay husband if Alfie's going to be a bitch about reconciling, so at least she's likely getting a happy ending.
make way for the superior webcomic
>mother and daughter actually fuck
Truly the better webcomic
>no labored, shitty plot
>characters are fun even when they're not fucking
>huge amount of SEX in a PORN comic
I mean yea, it's not even a competition.
>characters are fun even when they're not fucking
I was about to talk shit but then I forgot I was thinking of the prequel Switch
I don't know how he can continue with "everyone's a crying horny retard, the comic" but I guess the patreonbux keep it going
No shortstacks and there IS drama. It's arguably even more retarded than Alfie's.
Is this e-boi?
very no
Dropped then.
>498 pages
Oh boy. Tags look good though. How much NTR is actually in it?
There's some NTR in the backstory, but the setting is very much "free love" in that sex is easy and casual.
I can’t remember any of their names but
>bad luck guy is best boy by far, and the building of the wholesome relationship between him and the pure bossy girl who balances out that bad luck is the best part of this whole thing. There was a point where I wanted her to get fully mind broken in a mass orgy, now I just want them to be loyal to each other, maybe bringing in their twink mutual friend every now and again
>every scene with the redhead nerd is diamonds inducing
>chubby reporter girl, Indian girl with one of the Switch ghosts, fat prank girl, tall stoner girl, and Brie/Bria/black Afro girl, and the vice principal I also like
>the twins, other black girl, and girl who goes crazy at the sight of cum are alright. The rest of the lads are mostly ok, though the only other ones aside from bad luck and twink that jump out are nerd boy, big dumb jock, Asian dude fucking the vice-principal, chill black jock, the pure as snow principal, the lumberjack stepdad, and the ever suffering Brazilian lad
>crazy bitch who bosses around the twins, lolsorandom Nurse and most of the other adults are shit
>the main girl from Switch continues to be the absolute worst girl, though she’s nowhere near as bad as the guy who now has Switch who is the worst person yet has the personality of cardboard and doesn’t have the visuals of a big titty blonde girl to save him
He should have used an all new cast rather having some characters from part 1 returning. Like why even bring Casey back? Sure shes not AS crazy as she used to be but id say shes regressing + now her friend Bria is more serious about her stepdad and making more progress with him than her
The bad luck dude and the prude bossy girl are mad cute tho, i want more of them
Vera should pull out the secret weapon of every woman: Start crying. Bitch Alfie has no defences against it, she hasn't dealt how to deal with bitches yet.
Cry Vera, cry! Maybe we'll see if Nolan will be defenseless to it and she'll be able to use it later on him.
Kinda forgot about the plot halfway into this.
Why is Alfie a cunt to her mother? And why did she dyed her hair blue?
Her mom was overbearing and grumpy most her life and then saw her being gay.
She dyed her hair as part of a goblin makeover to go full slut mode
We all know what needs to happen now
Yeah, he needs to do more Puazi stuff... maybe even license Puazi off to a sex toy company to make Puazi fuck dolls
I want to see more of Bob and his family. Don’t even make it all about sex. Just let Bob have a nice day.
I think the fact Bob has a home, a car, a shirt and tie job, and numerous professional/domesticated women who are aching to jump on his dick every waking moment means that Bob likely lives a life that is reserved for multi-millionaires in our own world. He has more nice days than we could possibly dream of.
I think everyone can agree that having sex until you pass out from exhaustion is probably among the highest sensations anybody can experience - a sensation that never gets old. And Bob gets that pretty much every day. He's good and he has a healthy heart from it too.
Bob loves his wife, but clearly feels awkward when his responsibilities also involve pleasing his step-daughter (who has a boyfriend AND girlfriend of her own anyway), step-son (who he just wants a normal relationship with), and step-mother. Not to mention his futa niece will visit and fuck his wife and he just has to accept it.
The only Bob art where he is truly happy is when he’s with his wife.
I haven't kept up with this webcomic for like a good while. Is Alfie still an insufferable cunt? Is Vera stil best girl? Do Marco and Lydia admit they got feelings for each other and start a family?
This is STILL GOING!? I remember reading this over 10 years ago God damn
Why is Alfie the worst character in her own comic?
She's not. Nadia is never giving up that title.
who?
Poor fucking Alfie
she's so depressed.
Poor alfie, she can't get up
off the bed
'cause she's so tired
from her fling in pickering
Poor fucking alfie
Va fongul!
You are under no obligation to welcome back and "hear out" family members that treated you badly. You're certainly not required to listen as they explain why adultery was okay when they did it, after driving you out for being sexually active.
You sound miserable.
I've worked on a suicide hotline. I am extremely confident that people should not feel obligated to welcome back and "hear out" family members they left home to get away from.
Listening to sad people doesn't make you an expert on family relations.
>I have spoken with many broken people in need of intense psychotherapy, thus I understand normal family dynamics
Hi Dunning, how's Kruger doing?
>alfie still a cunt after all these years
she really has no purpose but to be a cocksleeve does she
Vera was a cunt to Alfie first. If Alfie wants to be forgiving she can... but she doesn't have to. Alfie never saw Vera's character growth and shouldn't be expected to just assume Vera's a better person after an "I'm sorry."
That would be a fair point if Alfie was only shitty towards Vera and not everyone.
True, but you can flip that around. Alfie is a fucking trainwreck because she was raised very very badly by Vera and Derik. Deeply fucked up family and a very repressive and bitter upbringing. Lo and behold she ended up maladjusted with shit-tier problem-solving skills!
Vera been shown to be great to alfie in literally every flashback. The shit with Melly was the only incident. The biggest problem was the rest of the town.
Being nice is foreign to her also booba.
Is there any particular reason she has yet to get comeuppance for her bullshit?
This is literally the artist making a Degen comic series about their life, but with fantasy creatures.
It's delightful how Cinemaphile is full of people who complain whenever Questionable Content immediately resolves any conflict within days and also people who complain when Alfie doesn't do that. She may be the main character, but she's a bad person and always has been. A lying, dishonorable sneaky rat who's driven away all her friends with her underhanded behavior. The goblins are where she belongs. A main character doesn't have to be dynamic. Sometimes being static is the point. This journey has been about her finding her place as opposed to growing as a person.
To be fair, we don't actually want to see extended drama from Jeph.
If he can't write a decent one-to-two page drama, why would we expect him to write a good 10-20 page one?
I swear half the anti vera people in the comments are projecting their experiences onto Alfie and swearing Vera MUST have been terrible all the time. Not to mention Alfie is fully justified because of the incident but Vera blowing up had no justification despite everything Derek has done.
Part of that is Vera implied to be more of bitch than she is shown to be. She was was fine with alduin it wasn't until the early cilian interactions that we see her acting out and even then it could be partially attributed to her desperation to find Alfie. We have a town that hated her family, her one friend pretending to love her and using her as a beard for his real relationship, years of being cheated on and yet we still have Derek and Alfie acting like she brought it on herself by not being nicer. Vera should have been meaner for that kind of plot.
Derek and Alfie are selfish people who who will take any opportunity to pass the blame for their actions.
I mean the guy in the re-write of Chapter One more or less says "They were right, you really are a cunt" before getting cut off.
Yeah she needed more of that. Incase knew her being a bitch to the guy cheating on her wouldn't sell her as a bitch, especially when she still chose him and Alfie over leaving with the caravan. Her interactions were pretty limited starting out because Alfie got most the screen time while Vera was more background and sex scenes.
That's still telling and not showing. Vera's a bit of a hardass but not all that bad.
She is the most fuckable hobbit.
Vera has also had a mini adventure and has been travelling with a man who even in her worries over her daughter, he has allowed her to live out her dreams of a more adventurous life. She’s softened up because she’s not wearing a mask anymore. Whilst Alfie has turned rotten by trying to figure out who she wants to be
The face of our protagonist.
Please let the next page feature her getting the shit slapped out of her by either Vera or Cilian.
If there’s one thing I can’t stand in a story, it’s a protagonist who the author is constantly pushing for us to like despite being fundamentally unlikable.
And Alfie is not a likable character in any way shape or form. She’s selfish, impulsive, manipulative and cowardly. Worst of all, she’s had no significant character development or growth, other than turning into a raging cunt.
Honestly, I think it’s pretty telling that it wasn’t until she met the goblins that she finally found the place where she can just be herself.
Sorry InCase, but you’ve dedicated an entire story to a character that nobody likes or cares about.
I don't think he intends for her to be likable
The worst girl meme has been going since alfie got mad at Marco for suggesting she shouldn't wander outside the caravan alone. Didn't feel like incase was leaning into it until after he realize the ship with Ozge was unpopular. iirc he's been planning a bad/bittersweet end for a while. Plus he could be venting his own frustrations since he has been burn out on this comic for a long time. That's why he has taken so many breaks and slowed down to two updates a week.
>Plus he could be venting his own frustrations since he has been burn out on this comic for a long time.
Well maybe next time plan out the fucking story beforehand then stick to it or just go back to chicks with dicks vignettes like DTiberius
He seems to have figured out that long form isn't his thing.
Was Greg heffley intended to be likable
Okay, serious question.
Does anyone else think that InCase has deliberately made Alfie this unlikable in response to how many of his readers actively shit on her whenever she takes center stage?
He might have, he certainly sabotaged Hana on purpose.
I think Alfie's supposed to have a "mean girls"-esque "quiet unassuming girl leaves her comfort zone and tries new things she never tried but over time it becomes apparent that lifestyle pushes her more negative attributes making her an unlikable person to both her former friends and her current friends.
The problem is the pacing of Alfie is VERY slow by design so we're seeing that story happen in SLOW MOTION. Either that or we're just watching the fall of a character from a nice farm girl to piece of shit but I don't think that's a story anyone really wants?
Alfie was never nice. She threw tomatoes at that human-fucking havlin in the stocks. Vera was shocked that she would do such a thing and rationalized that action as someone else forcing her to do it, but no, she's just a rotten person.
At this point some ogre should just turn Alfie into his personal onahole and that would be the end of the comic.
The poor ogre’s dick would probably suffer from frostbite and break off.
I'm in the minority but honestly I love Alfie. Like...Alfie sucks but I like girls who suck. She's not the easiest character to root for but also she hasn't done anything so bad that I just...hate her.
Is this just the shading or did Alfie turn into a goblin?
She's wearing Makeup to look more like a gobbo
>"Im not unhinged at all, mom!"
Can we move on the sex now, please?
Incase said we already got the last sex scene. You can just stop reading now if that's all you're interested in, this is the denouement.
He could always sneak one more in
>we already got the last sex scene
For the entire strip? That's hilarious
Man, I didn't keep up with this shit at all, what the fuck happened?
God, why does ever attempt porn artists make of doing something with a plot crash and burn?
idk I feel like most anons in this thread expect this comic to be something it is not
Alfie having negative character development is not a new thing, this comic from around its start has had moments where Alfie comes to wrong conclusions about how she should be and should behave
people that complain she's had zero development have not been paying attention, she's been getting worse. her arc is negative, her stress and troubles mounting until this very point, the climax of her being a fucking bitch
Cillian is such a god tier dilf. Absolutely tragic he's stuck in this mediocre porn comic for degenerate straights.
>degenerate straights
Isn't half the comic bi? The elves, The goats, The snakes, Melly, Alfie, Lydia, Even Marco sucked a dick. Probably could have had more stuff with Alduin if they plot line of Alfie working for him didn't evaporate into thin air.
Yeah
>FOR degenerate straights
Lesbians, femdom and the occasional bi orgy are still firmly in the realm of appealing to "straight" guys. I just want hot sweaty man sex with Cillian and another dilf or better yet a Cillian solo scene.
>another dilf
Incase does femboys anon. Your best shot is if he has a threeway with Alduin and Vera.
Hence my lament. Don't get me wrong, I still like the rest would be down for that even if its not ideal. There's a reason I keep up with this comic and the family drama is only a small part of it. But still a bi-chad into bears can dream.
Alfie only having one sex scene in the gobbo make up and not banging any of the multiple larger than human guys is a crime. Her best look is wasted on all this drama. Hopefully after the series is over he still does the occasional short porn story with some of the characters that only got one or no scene.