Am I the only one who is completely incompatible with this movie? It annoyed me from the first minutes and I couldn't finish more than half of it.
Am I the only one who is completely incompatible with this movie?
Am I the only one who is completely incompatible with this movie? It annoyed me from the first minutes and I couldn't finish more than half of it.
It's fuckin' awful. Scorsese's worst picture in my opinion.
Cameron Diaz is woefully miscast; DiCaprio gurns throughout the whole running-time; and Daniel Day-Lewis is more hammy than a butcher's window.
The key is not to take it seriously. Treat it like an anime cartoon and it becomes brilliant.
Agreed. The first film that he transcends his style and create a whole three dimensional world.
Honestly as I get older, Scorsese is a less impressive filmmaker save for his early work with Taxi Driver and Raging Bull. every character in his movie is an annoying asshole, the message is always bleak, and it's clear Scorsese resents human beings deep down inside. I can understand why someone would enjoy work of this type, but I've lost my appetite for it.
However, I feel like this movie really stands out as something so tonally different than the rest of his work that it's hard to believe it's the same director that made Casino. All in all, this anon hits the nail on the head
the movie is not only a cartoonish period drama, but it seems like it *knows* it's a cartoon. it's so absurd and melodramatic. I also second the notion of describing the movie as
>three dimensional
but it's beyond that. it's kaleidoscopic. the final duel between Bill and Amsterdam as cannonballs rain down on Paradise Square is positively hallucinogenic.
Gangs of New York is the closest thing we'll get to Kojima directing a film, and it's about the greatest period in American history. Transcendent.
It's not on the same level as Scorsese's other films but it's still great, visually engaging and fun.
the fucking hip hop beat during the first fight was ridiculous, but I liked that they portrayed the working class uprising as heroic while lynching a few joggers
>the fucking hip hop beat during the first fight
literally fuck what? where?
>checks
you fucking asshole you just ruined it for me
It's unwatchable. The acting is so atrocious you start to wonder what the direction was even intending.
It's Scorsese's greatest masterpiece
Let me guess, you have irish roots and the film felt humilliating. You just cant handle that the irish were the mexicans of the 19th century.
Not him but we do thrive on being the underdog.
Irish enjoy being naggers of whites same as Italians. Why would they mad at this.
It’s anime-tier.
yeah it's bad
Yeah it's pretty underwhelming. Disappointing since the Five Points gang legend is a classic.
Was DiCaprio supposed to be Irish? Bejaysus
it's a great movie and i like diaz too. its problems come from scale and editing. it's either missing another half movie or it's a half movie too long. pretty much my only complaint. would like a director's cut
Eat uncooked steak
The set pieces are the GOAT. Very few films exploring this era of the world. The acting is left wanting, but overall it's a good film. I r8 it a solid 8/8 don't h8 and go masturb8.
Both leo and cameron diaz miscast
Gangs, Aviator, Departed, WoWS > Casino, Goodfellas and whatever the fuck
You know this to be true
What about Critters III?
People always dunk on Cameron Diaz, but Leo wasn't great in it either, when I first watched it I couldn't understand his character's motivation in most of the scenes
Hon the town
Great Art Direction, but it's more than being just a miscast, it's underwritten and a bore because the lead actors spend three hours yelling past each other, and by the end of the movie, it seems like nothing's changed. Even if Gangs was truer to the reality of the time, the film ends up as a nihilist's notion of a film masterpiece might be like, and audiences aren't edified by it. You get a sense that despite Amsterdam's relative calmness, he is purely emotionally-motivated, which is different from the expressive character DiCaprio played convincingly in The Departed.
Compare Gangs to something like Gone With The Wind, which is actually interested in the thoughts and ideas of intelligent and informed characters, and aware of the real threads of political intrigue, even despite the fact that Scarlett ends up in the same state by the end of the film.
*of what a film masterpiece might be like
>a nihilist's notion of a film masterpiece might be like, and audiences aren't edified by it. You get a sense that despite Amsterdam's relative calmness, he is purely emotionally-motivated, which is different from the expressive character DiCaprio played convincingly in The Departed.
bitch it is not a 1950s epic it is an Italian epic more in common to giallo. also all of his films are morally fucked up why hold this to a diff standard.
It doesn't rate as a detective film or as political intrigue, so it's nowhere close to being a true giallo, even if a lot of giallos begin with newcomers entering a new society. Also no need to tell me your name, it's an anonymous board.
Of course I mean it feels like those giallo films or pasolini films more so than a classic hollywood epic. What do you mean no political intrigue, the boss tweed subplot, the draft riots
You hold The Age of Innocence too high, a pretend masterpiece. Gangs of NY is meant to get down and dirty, you protestant filth
Filtered
>not meant to be good
He is producing a TV show off it, it is incredible
>Of course I mean it feels like those giallo films or pasolini films more so than a classic hollywood epic.
Pasolini would be a more convincing line to take than gialli, but neorealism isn't something that can be faked on a grand scale. If the film was more from Amsterdam's perspective, then it could've been shot as a giallo, but I think Gangs is really styled as a gritty Noir film and that label probably complements it best.
>What do you mean no political intrigue, the boss tweed subplot, the draft riots
Those are beats or contingencies... it is technically intrigue if you're defining it simply as secretive plans, but it lacks a mysterious or fascinating quality tied together by the writing which would make use of real Suspense. Amsterdam isn't finding this out second-hand and that might've been better than shooting it plainly.
Ive never watched it so its shit by default
I'm incompatible with both Scorcese and DDL. DiCaprio as well. Each of them is a good enough reason not to watch a movie.
Scorsese ruins lots of his movies by including Leo in them. He can't act.
Yes it’s pretty bad. Can’t believe the same person also made The Age of Innocence, an authentically 19th century movie that you couldn’t imagine existing in the same universe as Gangs. That said there were two kino scenes in Gangs, DDLs monologue with the American flag and the ending line and montage which I still sometimes think about
90s scoresee was a kino maker.
>Cape fear
>Goodfellas
>Casino
I like the movie but it's not very good. I think the climax is very underwhelming and it should've been a full on gang fight like the opening. Instead you got this civil war bullshit with a lot of smoke.
It did feel underdone by comparison but I feel like that might have been intentional to segue into the end where Amsterdam emphasizes that it didn’t really matter in the end. Life went on.
it was some kind of weird passion project of Marty's that was never going to actually be as good in reality as in his head. Bill is a literal mary sue villain, practically a cartoon character.
Finishing it, I'm not really sure what the message was outside of something really obvious like "We are one race: the human race."
This movie sucked shit except for the parts where they insulted the dirty irish...also Cameron diaz was terrible
It’s based and you got filtered
>shows people actually in something other than grey black and white
>shows how violent america used to be
You're not alone. I watched it once, I thought it was completely fucking silly. No other word to describe how I felt about it.
All I know is nobody gave a fuck about this movie before the trump presidency. It was pretty forgettable
First scene, I see womyn participating in a brawl I turn off the movie
Simple as
>Am I the only one who is completely incompatible with this movie?
9/11-bush propaganda