I loved it too but that may be because I saw it when I was seven and was familiar with so many places it was shot it was freaky seeing the changes. I even read the novelisation which has some cool extras like the scene walking into Bartertown included some heavily armed stockmen driving livestock to sell including three dejected Hari Krishna slaves quietly chanting to themselves. Also Ironbar's internal monologue where he is lining up to overthrow Aunty Entity
That reworking of the opening with the narration making Max a Legend since Americans hadn't seen MM1 100% made the mythos of Max more iconic. I liked Fury Road a lot, and MM1 is brilliant in its own way, but I don't think you can beat The Road Warrior.
Millers direction and Hugh Keays-Byrne as Immortan Joe still make it brilliant. You're right, Hardy is nowhere near as good as Mel, even though I still liked his take. I liked Charlize as well. For me it goes MM2 > MM1 > Fury Road > Thunderdome
I don't dislike Thunderdome either, I just liked FR a bit more.
Swap Fury Road and MM1 and your reasoning is sound. Although I think Hardy should be absolutely nowhere near the franchise. Everyone always goes on about that clip where he apologises to Miller and says he was wrong for not "getting" the project, but no one talks about how we have an entire movie's worth of examples of him not getting it from start to finish. You don't get a pass for owning up to being shit at your job.
They were gonna make it with Mel for the longest time but the movie got delayed for over a decade and Mel aged out of the role. He also stepped away from the project way, way before any of his controversies so it's got nothing to do with that. It would've been better with Mel, I agree, but the script that's floating around for the version they were gonna shoot with him in 2002 is almost exactly the same as the Fury Road we got.
He literally left in 2003. Before the ex-wife tapes, before the drunk cop israelite thing, before he even did Passion of the Christ. They were actually in talks to have Heath Ledger in the role before he died (which would've been better than Hardy tbh.) Ledger died in 2008, Mel's career didn't fully get killed until the ex-wife tape thing and that was in 2010.
Mad Max is better.
I prefer the subtle sense of crazy and a society on the very edge of collapse.
I watched it recently and was struck how timely it is again given current year.
The sheer uneasiness and menace when Hugh Keyes Byrne pulls into the little town with his gang is amazing.
The building tension as the locals interact with them and try to play nice before it all goes sideways.
Mad Max is better.
I prefer the subtle sense of crazy and a society on the very edge of collapse.
I watched it recently and was struck how timely it is again given current year.
Mad Max is better because there's still a lingering sense that things can be salvaged, that the world still can be set right and that good people might still survive somewhere in the countryside, away from the evil and chaos.
Of course it doesn't work, but that's the tragedy of it.
Road Warriors is already "after the fall" in its approach and it has an entirely different mood.
I just prefer the contrast to the remaining and barely clinging on society.
Goose goes to a diner, watches a show, There's a 70s hotrodder rolling around on his space bike with a bubble side car.
The more subtle air of decay everywhere, the halls of justice is an especially good set, so run down and clinging to any last scrap of order.
And in the midst of this the politicians and bureaucrats still being themselves.
It's just this tense feeling of careening toward disaster, and again, so timely for current year.
>The more subtle air of decay everywhere, the halls of justice is an especially good set, so run down and clinging to any last scrap of order.
The Halls of Justice is great world building. It's a giant compound crewed by 8 people, you got the police sergeant living in the attic tending to his plants, and everything looks like a gang hideout you'd see in the French Connection or something. The MFP radio operator being some vaguely robotic sounding woman reading off cheery HR missives is also a nice touch.
WW is brilliant, I agree. Especially the Ulysses Cut. I highly recommend the Arrow Video special edition. Amazing transfer and comes with every version.
mad max in a barbie world
post apoc barbie world with ken warriors vs barbie furiosas
at the end oppahaimer conjointed with sakharov do a party rocker in the house tonight shuffle
Did anyone watch 3000 years of longing? What are the odds George can still pull it off with the upcoming Furiosa movie? Fury Road is almost as good as Road Warrior, it really only lost massive points for Hardy tbdesu
2 separate movies, but the direction with 3000 years was good, story was a bit lackluster but still liked it. Call me crazy but I liked Hardy. Didn't love him. Who would you have had for Max?
Guy Pearce was in a movie called Swinging Safari around about the same time, where he looked natty old man ripped. I think Fury Road could have absolutely worked with an older Max. I categorically think the actor chosen should always be Australian though. Hardy's accent was disgraceful... but hey the guy also got a pass for Bane.
The films should be judged by the bad guys and the toecutter gang were all more raw and edgy than the humongous and his goons. Even the night rider’s girlfriend was more real than all the cartoon characters in mm2.
>Even the night rider’s girlfriend was more real than all the cartoon characters in mm2.
Why is Road Warrior getting shit on so much here in this thread, it's bizarre. I can understand liking one more than the other, but this is an Alien/Aliens situation. Both are brilliant for different reasons.
I enjoy Road Warrior as well.
It's just that Mad Max is so good. I recently picked up a 4k remaster and it's just stunning how well this film was shot and how it holds up.
Road Warrior is like the jazzed up dumbed down Americanized sequel and Thunderdome is the ultimate de-evolution of that.
It's triumph of cinematography. And that's about all.
I was really excited for fury road after the reviews and intense hype. I'm not sure if even the star wars sequels were as much of a let down for me as fury road was.
this place routinely gets brigaded by people who deliberately denigrate things commonly discussed and held to be good here
anyway, everyone sane knows that Road Warrior is easily the best MM film, and almost everyone knows that MM1 is overall pretty lame and boring, though it has personality and got the ball rolling
>>And the road warrior? That was the last we ever saw of him. He lives now...only in my memories.
Classic. Action scene with the semi one of the top 10 all time
Yeah fury road is a bit soyy but it's still miles better than any big israeliteeewood blockbuster nowadays. Its amazing we got such a good film. Yeah Charlize is a crazy bitch and Hardy's shit, yeah yeah yeah
there's a format to good action movies >gunslinger arrives to a town >town is ruled by tyranny / fear >the guards are corrupt / malicious >the locals are too meek / too used to this to give a shit >gunslinger tries to restock and leave >local powers drag them into a conflict >gunslinger demonstrates how he survived "in the wilds" and wipes the floor with the lackies >someone informs big bad about a strong stranger in town (usually embellishing that he is there for them) >big bad goes to warpath and initiates manhunt for gunslinger >(pepper some love interest swooning here, gunslinger is not impressed by women) >bunch of action scenes and flavoring on what the bad guys were doing in town >gunslinger decides to reluctantly or otherwise help the town get rid of big bads gang >bunch of action scenes >big bad kills someone who was friendly to gunslinger / kidnaps swooning love interest >gunslinger voluntarily walks into a trap >bunch of action and a build up to face off with big bad >big bad stand there, menacingly and challenges the gunslinger >close call fight / the toughest fight of the movie ensues, gunslinger wins (at the very least pyrrhic victory) >swooning lady either survives, dies tragically or some other price is paid for victory >gunslinger preps to leave, town thanks him / chases him out depending on the price paid for victory >gunslinger returns to wilds and rides to the sunset awaiting their next encounter with order
chaos kampf where chaos(change) is the good thing when pitted against corrupt/stagnant order
there are few more formulas that got played out so many times they became their own formats for story telling, even mandalorian borrowed the cowboy trope of outsider coming to town to solve their problems
in mad max he's just a dark hero with a soft side he tries to hide, fury road did the character wrong by making him whimpy side character simp, mad max was supposed to be a character whose flaw is that he's a nomad
i liked thunderdome, there, i said it.
It’s based until the kids. Still ok after, not great.
I loved it too but that may be because I saw it when I was seven and was familiar with so many places it was shot it was freaky seeing the changes. I even read the novelisation which has some cool extras like the scene walking into Bartertown included some heavily armed stockmen driving livestock to sell including three dejected Hari Krishna slaves quietly chanting to themselves. Also Ironbar's internal monologue where he is lining up to overthrow Aunty Entity
I liked all four, there i said it
Furiosa coming soon to break the streak
the Mad Max game was really fucking good, there i said it
only MM1 good
fuck you reddit-tier comment homosexuals
mm1 and 2 are the only mm movies. fuck thundercucks and fury chodes
MM2 is the best, all you guys should go back to getting butt blasted from behind by your boyfriend.
taking a strong stance with that mainstream opinion, how brave.
Yes, the majority about MM2 is right just like how the majority of your family is right about you being a failure.
projecting this hard
Oof, he hit a little too close to home, didn't he?
no, and it was a complete nonsequetor, which is why i called it projection. you have to be 18 to post here btw
>from behind
I like eye contact homosexual
I would, but some dirty fucking animal kid killed him with a boomerang.
>Except for one time I ran into him at Carl's Jr. It was kind of awkward.
That reworking of the opening with the narration making Max a Legend since Americans hadn't seen MM1 100% made the mythos of Max more iconic. I liked Fury Road a lot, and MM1 is brilliant in its own way, but I don't think you can beat The Road Warrior.
>I liked Fury Road a lot
why it fucking sucked
no mel no max
Millers direction and Hugh Keays-Byrne as Immortan Joe still make it brilliant. You're right, Hardy is nowhere near as good as Mel, even though I still liked his take. I liked Charlize as well. For me it goes MM2 > MM1 > Fury Road > Thunderdome
I don't dislike Thunderdome either, I just liked FR a bit more.
Swap Fury Road and MM1 and your reasoning is sound. Although I think Hardy should be absolutely nowhere near the franchise. Everyone always goes on about that clip where he apologises to Miller and says he was wrong for not "getting" the project, but no one talks about how we have an entire movie's worth of examples of him not getting it from start to finish. You don't get a pass for owning up to being shit at your job.
They were gonna make it with Mel for the longest time but the movie got delayed for over a decade and Mel aged out of the role. He also stepped away from the project way, way before any of his controversies so it's got nothing to do with that. It would've been better with Mel, I agree, but the script that's floating around for the version they were gonna shoot with him in 2002 is almost exactly the same as the Fury Road we got.
Fury Road was always about Old Max, Mel wasn't too old for the role, it was the other stuff that led to the recast
He literally left in 2003. Before the ex-wife tapes, before the drunk cop israelite thing, before he even did Passion of the Christ. They were actually in talks to have Heath Ledger in the role before he died (which would've been better than Hardy tbh.) Ledger died in 2008, Mel's career didn't fully get killed until the ex-wife tape thing and that was in 2010.
So you're objectively and completely wrong
I liked that the Feral Kid was impersonating the real Max
Fury Road is crazy and relentless, but Road Warrior is fucking amazing. Easily my favorite post apocalypse movie of all time.
Mad Max is better.
I prefer the subtle sense of crazy and a society on the very edge of collapse.
I watched it recently and was struck how timely it is again given current year.
Michod said he wanted his movie Rover to feel almost like a prelude to MM1
I love MM for that reason. Toecutter is still so damn good.
>Anything you say
>What a wonderful philosophy you have
The sheer uneasiness and menace when Hugh Keyes Byrne pulls into the little town with his gang is amazing.
The building tension as the locals interact with them and try to play nice before it all goes sideways.
Mad Max is better because there's still a lingering sense that things can be salvaged, that the world still can be set right and that good people might still survive somewhere in the countryside, away from the evil and chaos.
Of course it doesn't work, but that's the tragedy of it.
Road Warriors is already "after the fall" in its approach and it has an entirely different mood.
I just prefer the contrast to the remaining and barely clinging on society.
Goose goes to a diner, watches a show, There's a 70s hotrodder rolling around on his space bike with a bubble side car.
The more subtle air of decay everywhere, the halls of justice is an especially good set, so run down and clinging to any last scrap of order.
And in the midst of this the politicians and bureaucrats still being themselves.
It's just this tense feeling of careening toward disaster, and again, so timely for current year.
>The more subtle air of decay everywhere, the halls of justice is an especially good set, so run down and clinging to any last scrap of order.
The Halls of Justice is great world building. It's a giant compound crewed by 8 people, you got the police sergeant living in the attic tending to his plants, and everything looks like a gang hideout you'd see in the French Connection or something. The MFP radio operator being some vaguely robotic sounding woman reading off cheery HR missives is also a nice touch.
hear me out
Road Warrior but boats.
and no, fuck off with your waterworld.
kys retard, waterworld is kino
that's fine, but it's not road warrior with boats
WW is brilliant, I agree. Especially the Ulysses Cut. I highly recommend the Arrow Video special edition. Amazing transfer and comes with every version.
mad max in a barbie world
post apoc barbie world with ken warriors vs barbie furiosas
at the end oppahaimer conjointed with sakharov do a party rocker in the house tonight shuffle
Did anyone watch 3000 years of longing? What are the odds George can still pull it off with the upcoming Furiosa movie?
Fury Road is almost as good as Road Warrior, it really only lost massive points for Hardy tbdesu
2 separate movies, but the direction with 3000 years was good, story was a bit lackluster but still liked it. Call me crazy but I liked Hardy. Didn't love him. Who would you have had for Max?
Guy Pearce was in a movie called Swinging Safari around about the same time, where he looked natty old man ripped. I think Fury Road could have absolutely worked with an older Max. I categorically think the actor chosen should always be Australian though. Hardy's accent was disgraceful... but hey the guy also got a pass for Bane.
Turned the movie off at this precise moment tbh
>missing the best part
lol bet you thought you were real smart but there's another scene dummy
fine thread this
very fine
What's this fine looking gentlemens name. I happened to be looking at the night sky and was curious.
if i remember correctly he is in fact, the foppish dandy know as the night rider(himself), the chosen one.
Over under on the retardation a person has to be afflicted with to have named their son Sprog?
Thats stralian for 'kid'
do australians really do this?
>runs along the flat road
What was her plan here?
>What was her plan here?
die
The films should be judged by the bad guys and the toecutter gang were all more raw and edgy than the humongous and his goons. Even the night rider’s girlfriend was more real than all the cartoon characters in mm2.
>Even the night rider’s girlfriend was more real than all the cartoon characters in mm2.
Why is Road Warrior getting shit on so much here in this thread, it's bizarre. I can understand liking one more than the other, but this is an Alien/Aliens situation. Both are brilliant for different reasons.
I enjoy Road Warrior as well.
It's just that Mad Max is so good. I recently picked up a 4k remaster and it's just stunning how well this film was shot and how it holds up.
Road Warrior is like the jazzed up dumbed down Americanized sequel and Thunderdome is the ultimate de-evolution of that.
Fury Road is an even more flanderized version of that.
It's basically a cartoon.
It's triumph of cinematography. And that's about all.
I was really excited for fury road after the reviews and intense hype. I'm not sure if even the star wars sequels were as much of a let down for me as fury road was.
nta but people still hype it, i saw it once and didnt get why it was meant to be so great, maybe i'll watch it again
It's a triumph of cinematography, stuntwork, style/aesthetics and worldbuilding. What the fuck more do you want out of your car chase action movie?
this place routinely gets brigaded by people who deliberately denigrate things commonly discussed and held to be good here
anyway, everyone sane knows that Road Warrior is easily the best MM film, and almost everyone knows that MM1 is overall pretty lame and boring, though it has personality and got the ball rolling
>>And the road warrior? That was the last we ever saw of him. He lives now...only in my memories.
Classic. Action scene with the semi one of the top 10 all time
Only seen the first two Mad Max films but they are soulful kinos. Might both be 10/10 for me.
Mad Max >> Thunderdome > Fury Road > Mad Max 2
Now you're just being contrarian.
Yeah fury road is a bit soyy but it's still miles better than any big israeliteeewood blockbuster nowadays. Its amazing we got such a good film. Yeah Charlize is a crazy bitch and Hardy's shit, yeah yeah yeah
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there's a format to good action movies
>gunslinger arrives to a town
>town is ruled by tyranny / fear
>the guards are corrupt / malicious
>the locals are too meek / too used to this to give a shit
>gunslinger tries to restock and leave
>local powers drag them into a conflict
>gunslinger demonstrates how he survived "in the wilds" and wipes the floor with the lackies
>someone informs big bad about a strong stranger in town (usually embellishing that he is there for them)
>big bad goes to warpath and initiates manhunt for gunslinger
>(pepper some love interest swooning here, gunslinger is not impressed by women)
>bunch of action scenes and flavoring on what the bad guys were doing in town
>gunslinger decides to reluctantly or otherwise help the town get rid of big bads gang
>bunch of action scenes
>big bad kills someone who was friendly to gunslinger / kidnaps swooning love interest
>gunslinger voluntarily walks into a trap
>bunch of action and a build up to face off with big bad
>big bad stand there, menacingly and challenges the gunslinger
>close call fight / the toughest fight of the movie ensues, gunslinger wins (at the very least pyrrhic victory)
>swooning lady either survives, dies tragically or some other price is paid for victory
>gunslinger preps to leave, town thanks him / chases him out depending on the price paid for victory
>gunslinger returns to wilds and rides to the sunset awaiting their next encounter with order
chaos kampf where chaos(change) is the good thing when pitted against corrupt/stagnant order
there are few more formulas that got played out so many times they became their own formats for story telling, even mandalorian borrowed the cowboy trope of outsider coming to town to solve their problems
in mad max he's just a dark hero with a soft side he tries to hide, fury road did the character wrong by making him whimpy side character simp, mad max was supposed to be a character whose flaw is that he's a nomad
They are all boring, there, finally said it.