>ultra generic space mexican
David Luna already was on Rogue One, what the fuck gringo, what the fuck, dude was Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo in Narcos. Fuck off, maybe you wanted a generic Johnny Jonnson
>segway into the ST which is when I will drop Star Wars again.
Yep, me too. They will eventually have to tie in the Snoke bullshit and the First Order. Our only hope the veil of the force, which is like the indoctrination theory in Mass Effect. It helps you to cope, but it's not real.
I'm ready for the finale but the show is going to be butchered to death next season for underperforming with this one. It should start filming this week hopefully.
Tony Gilroy mentioned it in an interview when talking about filming S2 that they are gonna be filming until August 2023, with filming starting next week. With post production being the bottleneck they are aiming for a release around fall 2024.
Marva's hologram will appear at the funeral and say 'fuck the empire', people will le rebel, empire will kill a bunch of them, cassian will escape and join the rebellion officially, syril survives the whole thing and defects to the rebellion in season 2, impressed by cassian and feeling bad about the isb bitch not giving a shit about him, mothma flees the empire and leaves the senate as seen in rebels
post-credits scene: they are building le deth star
>Marva's hologram will appear at the funeral and say 'fuck the empire', people will le rebel, empire will kill a bunch of them, cassian will escape and join the rebellion officially, syril survives the whole thing and defects to the rebellion in season 2, impressed by cassian and feeling bad about the isb bitch not giving a shit about him, mothma flees the empire and leaves the senate as seen in rebels
agreed with all except the syril part, he won't join the rebels but he'll be disillusioned by the empire too and will be a wildcard in season 2
>post-credits scene: they are building le deth star
would be better if they got Mendelsohn to do a Krennic cameo instead, maybe a discussion between Krennic and Jung about Scarif or something, that would then be used to justify Jung knowing about the DS and giving that info to the rebels
>agreed with all except the syril part
His character arc is leaning toward going postal. Who his target is is anyone’s guess but what he won’t do is stay put doing nothing
Luten is discovered to be a double-agent, Saw Gurera informs Kreegyr that the Empire knows his plan.
Syril has a lead on Andor but dies.
Andor finds out Kino survived; is told that they were making parts for something the empire is building, a kind of "super weapon".
Kreegyr's heist is bigger than the Aldani mission and apparently the Emperor is pissed that his sabotage failed. Episode ends with Emperor summoning Luten.
You really think we'll see Kreegyr'd/Saw's raid?
Syril is on Ferrix but will fuck up because he's Javert and it will ruin Deedra's plan on capturing him.
We won't see Kino, anon.
>Episode ends with Emperor summoning Luten.
I don't understand this. Is he captured? Why would he go in front of the Emperor?
His cover will be blown but all that isn't happening. I think he gets Andor off world. Him or radical brown gf and Vel will do it.
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I didn't read the double-agent part.
Not happening my man.
>Let's Kreegyr die >Ignored the plea of a spy who begged for his life back >Lies to every single person he works with >Looks like a Sith in ep 10 >Is an old white man
It's called foreshadowing. He's a double agent, only allowing certain missions that advance the Empire's march across the galaxy, while slowly picking off the resistance. He'd be summoned to show the severity of his mistake, and to make the Emperor look badass. They've only spoken about him in the show, they'll do a "Rogue One" moment and have him show up for one scene.
>Mothma wearing white >Luthen wearing black
This was the last time they spoke as friends.
Memes aside, he's portrayed more as a "shady pragmatist" than a "virtuous noble". He's either a double-agent, or the Emperor has something on him. His quarrel with Saw Gurerra was intentional, to show he's even darker and jaded than the cynical Saw.
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>black
Mostly navy! (that is darkisk blue)
whhgd
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah he's like the shiftiest guy in the galaxy but I don't know man.
1 year ago
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He attacked an arrestor cruiser and destroyed 4 tie fighters
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Anonymous
Yeah, double agents have a free pass for friendly fire. And even wet work on their own side.
Look, into how JSOC guys have killed basic grunts at Fort Bragg.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He did not need to kill those TIE fighters to escape and wasn't showing off to any other Rebels
1 year ago
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>Look, into how JSOC guys have killed basic grunts at Fort Bragg.
[citation needed]
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Luke wore white because he was innocent, then he wore gray in the second movie because he wasn't anymore. In RoTJ he wore black but he wasn't evil, he had just completed his arc to knowing and understanding the dark side.
If you wanna go with their colors they're white and black because that's the type of work they do. One does the clean noble work, the other the dirty work that needs to be done, but both for the same cause. She's less effective overall becuse she's limited by her path, he's more effective because there's nothing he won't do for the end result, he literally said he uses the (metaphorical) tools of his enemies to fight them. He's the one that fights fire with and angrier fire.
He's not a double agent. He's bad 'good guy', but not a 'good' 'guy'.
Luthen Rael is a Hard Man making Hard Choices, not a double agent. He's supremely pragmatic and ruthless in the pursuit of his agenda and does not allow his emotions to cloud the cold calculus of war.
He sacrifices Kreegyr not because Kreegyr is somehow a threat to the Empire (protip: he's not, he's basically a gang leader running around with 30 gangbangers and looting shit) but because Lonni is 100 thousand times more valuable to the cause than Kreegyr could ever be.
Objectively, having a high placed mole lodged inside the heart of the enemies counter-intelligence apparatus is more valuable than any single small time raid on an out of the way outpost could ever be.
Luthen makes the right call in throwing Kreegyr to the wolves, a cold blooded one but the right one anyways.
And that's what makes Andor kino for me, it's basically what TLJ wanted to be but never could be, it does deconstruction of space opera tropes RIGHT - in this case it deconstructs the "daring Rebel spy" trope, the rebel spy is not some dashing rogue with a heart of gold who always does the right thing even when it makes things harder for him in the long run because the "dashing rogue" types get picked up by the ISB instantly and thrown into Dedra's Outer Rim torture dungeon. The real rebel spy is a cold hearted bastard, a ruthless pragmatist willing to sacrifice his own allies like pawns on a chessboard, but only if it lets his other pieces draw closer to checkmating the enemy.
this, the purpose of this character is to show us the good guys are not like the purest guys, they are not like the Jedi, they have passion, anger and fear, and thank to them the Republic could overcome, the Jedi were already obliterated and shitting their pants, i liked that.
>Mothma wearing white >Luthen wearing black
This was the last time they spoke as friends.
Memes aside, he's portrayed more as a "shady pragmatist" than a "virtuous noble". He's either a double-agent, or the Emperor has something on him. His quarrel with Saw Gurerra was intentional, to show he's even darker and jaded than the cynical Saw.
Him being an enemy agent would be the gayest fucking twist ever.
Next to him being a fucking force user. After all this excellent writing and characterization of him there's zero chance Tony would do something so Hack.
Maybe Andor is the double agent , He did just kill 5000 prisoners for a rumour. Maybe the whole prison arc was a prison security test.
Kino Loy was in it too and Messi
You really think we'll see Kreegyr'd/Saw's raid?
Syril is on Ferrix but will fuck up because he's Javert and it will ruin Deedra's plan on capturing him.
We won't see Kino, anon.
>Episode ends with Emperor summoning Luten.
I don't understand this. Is he captured? Why would he go in front of the Emperor?
His cover will be blown but all that isn't happening. I think he gets Andor off world. Him or radical brown gf and Vel will do it.
I didn't read the double-agent part.
Not happening my man.
After George Lucas sold STAR WARS to Disney, the space adventure saga lost its identity as this epic larger-than-life space opera rooted in mythology and imagination.
STAR WARS must follow certain rules established by George Lucas. It's the camera, the music, the sets, the costumes, the actors, the style of the dialogues, the aliens & creatures, etc. Everything within STAR WARS is very structured so that when you look at the screen, you immediately know that you are in a galaxy far far away, that this is STAR WARS and no other film.
Andor looks and feels like it's set in a completely different universe, or that it's some kind of weird dystopian sci-fi set on planet Earth, where the characters salvaged whatever old weapons and uniforms they could find. Everything in Andor looks off. The aesthetics and the style of STAR WARS are gone. The imagination is gone. Even when you put away the fact that the elements of STAR WARS are not there and it's just a brand name stamped onto some medieval-looking TV show, it's too boring to watch. There is no story to follow, the conversations are dull and empty.
We are stuck with watching the Empire vs the Rebels narrative forever, there is nothing new and exciting. At Disney, they don't understand STAR WARS. George Lucas created an exciting space fantasy adventure filled with exotic planets and strange exotic creatures and aliens and infused it with so many mythological, spiritual, psychological & political themes and he worked very hard to always make it new. Without him, STAR WARS is gone. No imagination, no creativity, and the lack of understanding of the building blocks of STAR WARS is the main reason why we are getting this kind of content from Disney.
Andor doesn't feel like "Star Wars," but not for the reason many shills of the series would think. When you look at the Lucas Star Wars, it was a pastiche. He used the conventions of various genres of movies to draw us into a world that felt simultaneously familiar (thanks to these borrowed visuals) and completely otherworldly. This was particularly visible in the production designs for the Lucas trilogies.
I don't think Tony Gilroy has a grasp on this concept at all. For an example, let's look at the sets you praise. While I'll agree on a technical level they are competent, but they're also... mundane. There's a complete loss of the otherworldly. While that may serve the story in terms of highlighting the mundane oppression of the Empire, it doesn't serve the "Star Wars" story this should be. They feel far more hard science fiction in nature and would be more appropriate for say "Firefly" than Star Wars. Compare Andor's sets to the Mandalorian. The Mandalorian is a western and everything about it's design oozes western.
As another example, I'd put forward his handling of the second arc about the payroll heist. I wasn't feeling the love for the show, but I sat up when I realized what episodes 4-6 would be, because I LOVE me some heist films. Heist films largely work because of the suspense building structure (clearly defining the plan, the unexpected complications and the character's improvisation to overcome these obstacles to come out on top) juxtaposed with the mystery of the heist leader's personal vendetta tied to the heist. Not only does the show deliver the heist in a flat way, there's also nothing otherworldly in terms of it's complications. It's a fantastical world, let's have a fantastical complication that makes it uniquely Star Wars.
My second complaint about the series is Andor, as a character, has ZERO agency. He spends the entire show being forced into situations rather than the character making a choice and dealing with the consequences. The randomness of his getting arrested in episode 7 was the straw that broke the camel's back for me with this show. He makes a bad decision to return home. The consequence should have been he gets caught there. But no... he escapes scott free and while on vacation is in the wrong place at the wrong time and gets randomly arrested for none of the things he's actually guilty of. THAT'S bad writing.
Pleb take. If you paid attention you would have noticed that he got arrested for being too cautious. Looked too suspicious, tried avoiding the cops. If he had just sat down on the beach or had the chick with him he would have been fine. He was still innocent but ultimately played into his own capture. Also sometimes that's how real like works, you're ultimately at the mercy of fate and sometimes it has nothing to do with your own personal decisions. How you respond to such things is what makes the difference. Hence the prison break. And the heist was actually pretty good.
Actually his capture was in a way thanks to his actions. His half assed actions led him to prison. He thought he could just escape the empire by laying low but that was what got him.
The cast and crew would often take lengthy walks to get to a set for location filming. According to Diego Luna, when filming took place in Pitlochry, Scotland, they had to walk up a mountain for hours to set up one shot
The Empire didn't decommission ships either. They put them out on the fringes and kept the newer stuff closer to home. They might have had a refit or two but you don't scrap a perfectly good cruiser.
Well, senpai, we don't see any of the PT ships or tech whatsoever in the OT. Unless you are stupid enough to think "lol it was just all off-screen". They scrapped it.
>Momma Andor's hologram kicks off the riot that or the Spooks stringing up that one guy >Shining Path brown gf saves Bix >Cyril gets to Ferrix >Deedra arrives w/ Death Troopers >the noose tightens around Cassian >Cyril goes full Ahab over him and fucks up the WHOLE ISB op
I don't know what happens with Skarsgård, maybe his cover gets fully blown. Bails out Cassian and gets him off world.
Screencap this fuckerss.
Dudes building the Death Star in a smelter back at Morlana 1 as punishment - notice how Andor was making parts for "something" in Narkina 5.
The Empire has compartmentalised construction of the DS all over the galaxy, it's actually really fucking based. He'll be back in S2 once Syril is dead.
>Name
Hey, uh Anon..Anon Ymous >Charges? >Thread Disruption, Anti-Janny Speech, Fleeing the scene of Anti-Janny activity, Attempted Sneedposting in a Janny monitored thread
I..I'm sorry, there's something wrong >I wouldn't. You've got enough trouble without a Ban Appeal charge.
I'm just a lurker. >Oh, apologies all around then. This used to be a six month ban. Oh well... *clicks old time credit card imprinter* >Six years.
Six years? No, no wait... >Change of board rules. >Jannies: Take him away.
I didn't do anything, hey! >Take it up with Hiroshimoot.
Swamp/Mud troopers are basic army, not part of the Stormtrooper Corp.
Also they're cool as shit. I love how they have various paint schemes for their rank.
>Whats the point of shore troopers?
Theres probably some minor shit like training and specialized equipment revolving around coastal warfare. But my headcanon is that its just another pointless program some imperial designer cooked up so their department could say they pioneered a new stormtrooper specialization
And for other Moffs and generals can say they have the best boys under their command. All these specialized troops just funnel more into their MIC and for Moffs to measure dicks and flex on each other.
I sure hope so. That’s the kind of old character cameo I’m okay with, because it actually fits with the existing story. Imagine >she’s there in his office >the equivalent of a Chinese officer personally talking to Mao >she knows he can send her entire family to Space Xinjiang (with regular visits from Dr Gorst) if she so much as coughs too loudly >pant shitting would be off the charts
That’s the kind of kino we need
It'll be fun to see her squirm for a change since she's been full SS she wolf since the third episode.
He'll spook her but ultimately give her due credit and a major spook promotion.
This might be needlessly complex and/or retarded, but I was thinking about Luthen while I was falling asleep kek and something occured to me: What if he's working for the Emperor as a double agent? His purpose being exactly what he's been doing in the show, increasingly larger scale (falseflag) attacks against the empire which then allows Palpy to further tighten their laws and control. It's entirely inline with Sheev's playbook, that's how he became Emperor in the first place.
Now the twist is Luthen is actually a double double agent. Because at the same time, he's using these attacks not as falseflags but (as it's depicted to us on the show) the beginning revolts of a rebellion.
>I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them
Maybe that line was deeper than we thought. The problem with Luthen is he's such a well constructed character you can basically invent 20 different backstories for him that all work.
Okay I've read it, now you should read my post because my theory is different. I'm saying he's a double double agent. The reason it would be interesting is it means Palpatine had a central role in creating the Rebellion
He’s said already that he’s an accelerationist who’s helping carry these attacks out in the explicit hope that the empire overreacts and people become too oppressed to stay complacent. Whether you want to believe that is up to you but that’s what I’m going with
That doesn't contradict what I've said though. It shows Palpatine's confidence / arrogance that he thinks this wouldn't happen
I did read your post, it's well thought-out but there's just no way.
I recently became a homeowner and if that happens, I'll give you the deed to the place dude. I think it's just that unlikely, it would be so hack.
Yeah I admit it's not likely, I just think it's an interesting idea. Congrats on your new home, I usually ask people now if you bought it the old fashion way with a mortgage or did you purchase it outright with crypto
It's not different at all.
Palpy doesn't need pretense to impose greater restrictions on the rebels.
>luthen is a double agent hes actually with the empire >luthen is a double double agent he's actually using the empire to create the rebellion
reading comprehension
And if he did he’d just stage a few false flags instead of foment an actual threat. It’s almost like Gilroy’s writing team read about what authoritarian governments actually do and random Cinemaphile posters haven’t
First off that's not what I said, I said Luthen is forging the rebellion behind Sheev's back. His only given mission was to stage attacks. And also have you been watching the show? There's only been one attack we've seen so far
Thanks man, we got a mortgage.
The most I ever got out of crypto was a new PC and like a nice jacket.
I do hope we learn some of his background though, was he a Separatist? He doesn't exactly scream huge fan of the former Republic.
Could have had a Jedi friend I think though.
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Anonymous
Nice, good luck to you.
Yeah I hope this finale can spare a minute or two shedding a little light on his backstory. Some people think he's a former jedi after seeing that staff he has last episode pic related
1 year ago
Anonymous
That was just his stabby walking cane.
He's not force sensitive, Tony would find that hack.
But he either had a Jedi friend or was high up in the CIS.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I was leaning toward Force-sensitive relative, yeah. Maybe a niece or something, show that he's got a family but perhaps not direct offspring. The Kyber crystal was hers, and he salvaged it from the aftermath of a battle waged by the Republic.
And if he did he’d just stage a few false flags instead of foment an actual threat. It’s almost like Gilroy’s writing team read about what authoritarian governments actually do and random Cinemaphile posters haven’t
He’s said already that he’s an accelerationist who’s helping carry these attacks out in the explicit hope that the empire overreacts and people become too oppressed to stay complacent. Whether you want to believe that is up to you but that’s what I’m going with
Someone give me a qrd on the series
I've only watched the first two seasons of Mandalorian, and decided after how fucking bad S2 of Mando was I'd never watch another series of star wars.
But with all the depression posting and the Mad Men posting I am intrigued, is it actually Kino or is it actually a shills posting? I wouldn't mind some actual more dark storytelling abouty a smugglers/infiltrators story as he has to do actual evil shit, showing what a Rebellion truly is.
I would also like to know whether the character they replaced Kyle Katarn with is actually worth a fuck or not.
First of all >nagger >homosexual >kike >cunt >gas the Disney board and all filonifags
With that out of the way, it’s kino. If you like a slow burn with payoffs every few episodes, you’ll love this
Mando S2 was good, tho.
But no, Cassian Andor is a much more boring character than Kyle Katarn. Andor has like no charisma, personality or screen presence whatsoever.
Just watch it yourself anon. It really is kino - I’m generally anti-Disney, was on here sperging out about the ST and Obi-Wan with the best of them, but this is actually good stuff. Picks up from Episode 3 onwards.
Not as pulpy or quirky as the original 6 movies, but plenty of references and settings that put it right at home in Imperial Era Star Wars. Spy thriller type. MC isn't the mo charismatic guy but rather a hardened street rat type who's worked his way up a bit and the story starts with him looking for his long lost sister, gets tangled into some bullshit which just keeps escalating all the while the proto Rebellion is getting off the ground and the MC gets caught up in it. Mature tones, deep lore and good acting/writing. Theres also alot of real world sets used
>It's a prestige sci-fi political thriller disguised as a Star Wars show.
Sounds really fucking Kino, are there a lot of KINO shots that I can screenshot?
its like if HBO did a Star Wars show instead of d*sney
I honestly cannot comprehend how they got away with making this show without so much as a single marvel quip or toy selling comic relief character
I bet d*sney will shit all over S2 and then Filoni will insert his fetish togruta into its festering corpse because 30 minutes without ahsoka is like torture to the average filonifag
they're not building it they're disassembling and recycling it
venators were all thrown away when the clone wars ended, for dubious reasons but obviously you can't just let tens of thousands of capital ships just lying around so you have to dispose of them, and since its a huge waste to let all that metal just rust, you also need to recycle it
planets like ferrix have their whole economy built around this, dismantling old ships is literally the only thing anyone does, other than support and service economy jobs to service the 90% of people who recycle the ships
>pretentious >fart-sniffing pseuds >very pedestrian >middling
Bro look in the fucking mirror
>using the word pretentious in any context whatsoever
r*ddit is that way, homosexual
don't come back
See? This is what I am talking about. They are no different from TLJfags. In fact, I have a feeling as if they're the same people. It's the same types of arguments: >YOU ARE NOT MATURE ENOUGH FOR THIS MATURE STAR WARS FOR ADULTS! >THIS IS THE BEST STAH WAHZ SINCE ESB! >YOU JUST WANT PEW PEW! >YOU ARE A PREQUELFAG! >RIAN JOHNSON/TONY GILROY ARE ACTUAL DIRECTORS WITH TALENT! >YOU WANTED LUKE TO BE A MARY SUE WITH NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! >GO WATCH HIM CHOP CHOP SOME ROBOTS AND BRINGING DOWN STAR DESTROYERS LIKE A MARY SUE!!!
kys filonifag ahsoka is a whore, d*sney is full of homosexuals, tlj was an abomination, Andor is Kino and finally and most importantly, you will never be a woman
>TLJfags
those don't exist anon, you fell for shitposts.
They did exist. There is an occasional TLJfag here and there, even on Cinemaphile. But when they were at their peak, their "arguments" were pretty much the same.
>They did exist.
did maybe, that was cope because they wanted to believe the third movie could redeem the problems. And to their credit the movie could have been redeemed. It could have just been temple of doom to an otherwise decent trilogy. But RoS squashed that hope and made it so no one can eve stomach watching Force Awakens because it's just a painful mess of wasted potential and setups that never went anywhere.
>their arguments were the same
lol no you're just making shit up because you're upset a circlejerk you were riding is ended.
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Anonymous
>decent trilogy
The trilogy was never decent. TFA was terrible from the start and cemented Rey as the single worst Mary Sue in the history of cinema, and the foundation of the setting was rotten and unimaginative from the get-go. I ought to discard your opinion right away, but I will give you the benefit of a doubt. Although I probably shouldn't. >lol no you're just making shit up because you're upset a circlejerk you were riding is ended.
No, I am not. TLJfags' arguments are literally the exact same as the andorfags'. 1:1 copy. It's uncanny, really.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nta and not going to bother reading all your posts but if you're going to Andor threads just to shit on them you're a homosexual incel
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the setting was rotten and unimaginative from the get-go
Why was the seventh installment of this franchise just like the others >:(
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was literally just a reboot of the OT, but worse. And they undid all of the legacy characters' achievements. And the movie never bothered to elaborate on any of that. Somehow, The First Order (an Imperial Remnant) is bigger and stronger than the Empire that preceded it. Somehow, the Rebellion is still a fucking REBELLION, despite literally fucking winning in ROTJ. Somehow, Han is still a smuggler. Somehow, Luke Skywalker has vanished. Man, this is really pointless, and at this point it's just beating the dead horse. Everyone knows that.
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Anonymous
>And the movie never bothered to elaborate on any of that. >Somehow, The First Order (an Imperial Remnant) is bigger and stronger than the Empire that preceded it. >Somehow, the Rebellion is still a fucking REBELLION, despite literally fucking winning in ROTJ. >Somehow, Han is still a smuggler. >Somehow, Luke Skywalker has vanished.
Maybe if you'd watched it instead of zoom zooming through it you'd know those points are either wrong, gay, or retarded
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don’t recall a convincing explanation as to how the FO had the comically overblown resources it had, at least not in the movie itself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Because Palpy was working behind the scenes the whole time. He used his force powers to conjure not only the Final Order, but the entire First Order and Starkiller base as well
How’d he do that? No, fuck you, JJ ain’t gonna explain shit, haven’t you heard of mystery boxes?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah. Hence my qualifier “convincing”.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That is key. It also begs the question of >if Palpatine could just conjure armies out of force essence or whatever, why did he even bother with the whole “subvert the republic” thing that took the entire prequel trilogy to play out?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Everyone needs to remember that no matter how much they hate the sequel trilogy, the creators of TLJ and RoS and TFA clearly hated each other more.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Somehow Palpatine created 2 organizations bigger than the Empire while dead.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The trilogy was never decent.
It didn't but at the time we didn't know that as a certainty. TFA was not a terrible start, she was a bland cardboard cutout of a character in that movie, anyone calling her a mary-sue is just being lazy about it. She lacked character but was given a bunch of hooks for someone else to use.
The third movie could have used those hooks. It could have been a far less shitty movie at least. It could have salvaged it to be better than the prequels rather than worse.
>TLJfags' arguments are literally the exact same as the andorfags
you keep saying it but can't explain it because you're full of shit, they aren't even making arguments, they're just calling you a retard.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>we didn't know that as a certainty. TFA was not a terrible start, she was a bland cardboard cutout of a character in that movie, anyone calling her a mary-sue is just being lazy about it.
Oh my god, you are so fucking retarded, you should kill yourself. I won't even bother. Bitch literally pulled a successful Jedi mind trick on the first attempt without any prior training and without even knowing that the Force is actually real the day before that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
chock that up to their gimmick of that generation of force users being super duper uber powerful even compared to Vader. They showed the antagonist do crazier shit because he was that powerful but trained.
Yes it's bad but it's salvageable, which was my only point.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fuck off, retard. I won't chock that up to anything. It fundamentally contradicts star wars and George Lucas, who said that you need years of training, and you can't just pick that up randomly. Rey was an obnoxious Mary Sue from the get go.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>George Lucas, who said that you need years of training, and you can't just pick that up randomly
which he contradicted himself with time and again. You're supremely upset with all the least important things for a decent story, while super obsessed with unimportant and often retconned details of the franchise.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>which he contradicted himself with time and again
He didn't.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I actually like TFA when it came out but it’s been made progressively worse by its sequels to the point of being shit knowing all the interesting shit goes nowhere and the characters either get worse or never change.
Also in retrospect Hans entire inclusion is cringe as fuck.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I actually like TFA when it came out
this is how it was for almost everyone. The problem was that it was set up with a lot of hooks that were interesting and good and easy to like, but because most of those were ruined and you know the rest won't ever get resoled, it's just depressing to even think about the movie now.
Waiting for what? >Pretentious - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
A simple tale about Empire vs Rebels from 1977, with one side being objectively good freedom-fighters, and the other side being ruled by a literal cackling space Satan, who shoots lightning out of his finger tips. His name is (in)SIDIOUS, and his henchman is a black cyborg named (in)VADER and they use DEATH STARS. This is what the story boils down to: a simple tale of good and evil, about a farmer boy rescuing the princess from the castle and destroying the weapon, finding his destiny in the process. Andor makes all of that pretentious - by definition. >Pedestrian - lacking inspiration or excitement; dull.
Self-explanatory. >Middling - mediocre, second-rate. >Pseuds - a person who wants to be thought of as having a lot of intelligence and knowledge but who is not really intelligent or knowledgeable.
Related to pretentiousness of the show.
Why did you reply to me? I am using the right words to describe precisely what I think.
>no different from TLJfags
What the fuck are you talking about, Anon? TLJfags HATE mature starewars, just look at the whole spcae-dogs on Canto Bight scene, they love and eat that shit up. TLJfags also HATE ESB, they think it's as boring as the senate scenes as AOTC! Andorbros HATE Johnson with a thick tar-like passion!
Who the fuck are you trying to strawman, your points make no goddamn sense!
Why weren't their schizo homosexuals for that awful Boba Fett and that even more awful Obi-Wan show with that bitch who couldn't act her way out of a paperbag?
I just don't get it.
filonifags cannot organically stand any star wars content that does not contain ahsoka tano in it, ESPECIALLY if its good content
but when the content in question is far superior in quality and every other metric to filonislop, then the filonifags go apopletic with rage and start schizoposting
book of boba and obiwan were shit so they got a pass, mando is filonislop so they love it but ANDOR is Gilroy spy KINO and this makes the filonifags explode with rage
I just remembered that I saw it in one of the previous threads and found it right now in the archives specifically to trigger the likes of him and (You). Looks like I've succeeded.
Were you even in the threads? Boba and Kenobi threads were shitstorm, because the shows were pretty bad. The only good episodes were Mando 2.5 in case of Boba, and in case of Obi-Wan, anons discussed the Vader vs Kenobi part where Kenobi slashed Vader's mask (although it was ripped off from Rebels). Otherwise, it was a neverending shitstorm week after week. I still have the webms saved. Seems like you guys are some tourists.
>"The flashbacks in this episode occur during the later years of the republic, prior to the start of the Clone Wars. The dead crewers aboard the transport corsair wear uniforms with a symbol closely related to the eventual Separatist Alliance." >Corporation strip mines Kenari, kills the adults, and sends a ship to gas the survivors >Gas leaks and kills the crew >They send another ship to finish the job >Maarva and Clem call them Republic ships because the Separatist movement doesn't exist yet
This plotline was still a waste of time
>The dead crewers aboard the transport corsair wear uniforms with a symbol closely related to the eventual Separatist Alliance
That was a goof, a huge one but still a goof. The ship wasn't CIS.
That's what he's saying though. They're not CIS because the CIs don't exist yet at that stage, the corporations and planets that make up the eventual CIS are still part of the Republic.
I did enjoy the cuts between the aldhani ritual and the heist in that one episode. Mon's daughter getting married seems a little rushed to me so hopefully they don't do that.
>Rogue One >Mando S1 >Andor >The Dooku episodes of that cartoon special
These are the only Disney Wars products I’ve liked, how much of a shill homosexual am I?
This is just tasteless. There is no reason to do it other than twitter bait. The word does not belong in Star Wars. Just like sequel shit had the word "ass" in it. Embarrassing. This is what Star Wars has been reduced to.
Not even the EU in 40+ years of its history lowered itself to using real life slurs.
There is also something I noticed: when you listen to George talk, he is always eloquent and intelligent, well-mannered. I read a couple of Tony Gilroy's interviews the other day, and he is constantly swearing and talks like a retard. And he just had to shovel that shit into his show. This is really cringe.
I'd love to see them fuck and of course they do, you can't be that passionate about a shared cause w/o fucking. Among Chinese Communist revolutionaries, having sex was referred to as “undisciplined guerrilla warfare.” Everyone is horny in a rebellion.
She does it for me more than any other Andor girl.
>Andor doesn't appeal to the TFA audience
given the marketing, the audience was mostly meant to be kids and their parents so that it could spawn a new generation of star wars fans. Despite how shit they were, really young kids at least really liked the movies, but I guess Disney decided it was better to market cheaper animation to them on Disney+ while making shows for everyone else.
Perrin looks like he's ok with it. Mon looks like she's not. Leida looks like she's in control. She wants to be a power player. She's going to be the Perrin of her marriage while the boy actually wants to go on space adventures and get away from high society and the criminal aspects of it
Why don't Star Wars writers have any sense of scale? We're talking about a rebellion supposedly across a whole galaxy, and the big cells are Kreegyr and his 30 men, and Saw and his couple X-Wings?
it's the known and settled parts of the galaxy, just like how earth empires might act as if they conquered the whole world and not just the coastline of a single sea.
No it wasn't. It was slowly growing into almost being a rebellion at this point. The main leaders are elite from the republic who only very recently realized they couldn't win using politics and the republic was gone, and everyone else are just people who were fighting back as the empire started stamping down, natural rebels defending their own not as part of a revolution.
The entirety of Andor disagrees, you have small pockets of freedom fighters like Saw and Kreegyr but they're independent of eachother. The actually full scale united rebellion we see in ANH doesnt exist yet, thats like the entire point of the 1st conversation between Saw and Luthen.
I said nothing about a united rebellion shitposter. 30 men is not only like 50 times smaller than say a random minor faction of the Syrian Civil War, it's smaller than a random minor Mexican street gang. You could literally say there are a thousand separate factions (there aren't because Luthen is only talking about a handful) and you'd still end up with a completely irrelevant force.
This is the last post I'm wasting on you so please try to get this through your head. My problem is NOT that the factions in the show are disunited. That's fine. The problem is that every faction is laughably tiny, to the point where it doesn't matter if they united because the combined force would still be nothing.
This is the last post I'm wasting on you so please try to get this through your head. My problem is NOT that the factions in the show are disunited. That's fine. The problem is that every faction is laughably tiny, to the point where it doesn't matter if they united because the combined force would still be nothing.
This anon is correct.
But Star Wars was always like this. There were like 5 million clones in a galactic fucking war.
The rebellion was never very big. It fought with guerilla warfare punching way above their level with hit and runs. Even after ROTJ the empire could have EASILY crushed the rebellion if the emperor didn't die and the succession war occured
My guess is to show that the empire does have some grassroots support and that not everyone is primed for a rebellion. I could be being too generous with my interpretation though. His arc does somewhat pointless for the time being.
The logic remains the same. Space has a lot more fucking room to house these ships as they are more easily taken apart in 0 gravity. Landing these things and taken them apart on the ground is just fucking retarded.
>have a scrapyard in space >sawing through a ship, all the debris flies off into space >tiny bits of orbital debris everywhere posing a constant hazard >everyone needs specialized equipment >installation is more expensive
it makes more sense to dump this shit on planet and let wagies deal with it
>sawing through a ship, all the debris flies off into space
Ships are assembled with nuts, bolts, and welding and they can be disassembled as such. >tiny bits of orbital debris everywhere posing a constant hazard
They would burn up upon re-entry into the planets atmosphere >everyone needs specialized equipment
They need special equipment on the ground as well. In this pic we literally see these ships being help up by giant pylons and there are small ships with cables pulling huge chunks off. This is all just a fucking waste of money as keeping it space avoids all this nonsense. >installation is more expensive
See above. >it makes more sense to dump this shit on planet and let wagies deal with it
This I agree with, but the owners would want less wagies, not more..
>Ships are assembled with nuts, bolts, and welding and they can be disassembled as such.
You are a fucking retard
https://maritimesa.org/grade-11/2016/09/07/11-2-2-5-ship-scrapping-also-known-as-ship-recycling/
>Landing these things and taken them apart on the ground is just fucking retarded.
It really doesn't matter. Fixating on it is a waste of time and intellect.
more concept art
Kino
That's atrocious
, the A-Wing will receive some love and respect
piloted by some ultra generic space mexican + on fire
BROSSSssssss......
that is clearly not an a wing you massive pleb
>ultra generic space mexican
David Luna already was on Rogue One, what the fuck gringo, what the fuck, dude was Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo in Narcos. Fuck off, maybe you wanted a generic Johnny Jonnson
>forgetting Y tu mamá también
Come on now.
Andorbros, are we ready for the finale and a two year hiatus?
Mando and Ahsoka are in between I guess. So it's not a complete drought. Hopefully it's not going to be shit.
I have low hopes for Mando just because they're going to use it to segway into the ST which is when I will drop Star Wars again.
>segway into the ST which is when I will drop Star Wars again.
Yep, me too. They will eventually have to tie in the Snoke bullshit and the First Order. Our only hope the veil of the force, which is like the indoctrination theory in Mass Effect. It helps you to cope, but it's not real.
bad batch new season ,44 Earth days
Oh yeah, sounds good.
Can't wait for more commando kino.
SHE STOLE ALL THEIR NECKS FOR HERSELF
Great, Ahsoka! I'm so glad there's an Ahsoka show! I can't believe we've gone so long without some kind of show that featured Ahsoka!
it was in tales of jedhi like last week !
1 week without Ahsoka being on my TV is too long
fuck off Dave
>Mando
It's going to suck worse than S2
>Ahsoka
No
Both are gonna be kino, dominate the charts, and win multiple awards. And you're gonna be mad about it.
You couldn't pay me to watch Ahsoka.
Keep us informed, anon.
I'm ready for the finale but the show is going to be butchered to death next season for underperforming with this one. It should start filming this week hopefully.
>ready for the finale
Yes.
>and a two year hiatus
No. But like always, 2 years will fly by and I won't even notice.
two years till Andir S2? really ? sauce?
more like one and a half year based on shotting dates
Tony Gilroy mentioned it in an interview when talking about filming S2 that they are gonna be filming until August 2023, with filming starting next week. With post production being the bottleneck they are aiming for a release around fall 2024.
What reason could there possibly be for building them sideways?
They are being decommisioned and disassembled. The Clone Wars are over.
How they landed it sideways is a better question
thats is ferrix , its a scrap and salvage planet
Shill thread.
>ONE WAY OUT
ONE WAY OUT ANDORBROS
I'm hype as fuck for this finale
I am rewatching episodes 1-11 to get ready
This is how we live Andorbros
This is the live we chose.
What going to happen in finale?
Marva's hologram will appear at the funeral and say 'fuck the empire', people will le rebel, empire will kill a bunch of them, cassian will escape and join the rebellion officially, syril survives the whole thing and defects to the rebellion in season 2, impressed by cassian and feeling bad about the isb bitch not giving a shit about him, mothma flees the empire and leaves the senate as seen in rebels
post-credits scene: they are building le deth star
>Marva's hologram will appear at the funeral and say 'fuck the empire', people will le rebel, empire will kill a bunch of them, cassian will escape and join the rebellion officially, syril survives the whole thing and defects to the rebellion in season 2, impressed by cassian and feeling bad about the isb bitch not giving a shit about him, mothma flees the empire and leaves the senate as seen in rebels
agreed with all except the syril part, he won't join the rebels but he'll be disillusioned by the empire too and will be a wildcard in season 2
>post-credits scene: they are building le deth star
would be better if they got Mendelsohn to do a Krennic cameo instead, maybe a discussion between Krennic and Jung about Scarif or something, that would then be used to justify Jung knowing about the DS and giving that info to the rebels
Syril will join the rebels, because he is obsessed with Andor and idolizes him. Mark my words.
>agreed with all except the syril part
His character arc is leaning toward going postal. Who his target is is anyone’s guess but what he won’t do is stay put doing nothing
Kek fools on here still believe Maarva is actually dead.
She did talk about that old exit pass in an earlier episode.
It totally could be a live hologram.
We never saw the body either. I’m calling it now - although I still think she’ll die before she gets the chance to see Cassian
100% it's a live hologram. They might get a goodbye? All depends on when Cass gets back to Ferrix. Mid uprising or just as the powder keg goes off.
Its 1.5 hrs long and Boba fett and Empirer will be in it.
Luten is discovered to be a double-agent, Saw Gurera informs Kreegyr that the Empire knows his plan.
Syril has a lead on Andor but dies.
Andor finds out Kino survived; is told that they were making parts for something the empire is building, a kind of "super weapon".
Kreegyr's heist is bigger than the Aldani mission and apparently the Emperor is pissed that his sabotage failed. Episode ends with Emperor summoning Luten.
You really think we'll see Kreegyr'd/Saw's raid?
Syril is on Ferrix but will fuck up because he's Javert and it will ruin Deedra's plan on capturing him.
We won't see Kino, anon.
>Episode ends with Emperor summoning Luten.
I don't understand this. Is he captured? Why would he go in front of the Emperor?
His cover will be blown but all that isn't happening. I think he gets Andor off world. Him or radical brown gf and Vel will do it.
>Let's Kreegyr die
>Ignored the plea of a spy who begged for his life back
>Lies to every single person he works with
>Looks like a Sith in ep 10
>Is an old white man
It's called foreshadowing. He's a double agent, only allowing certain missions that advance the Empire's march across the galaxy, while slowly picking off the resistance. He'd be summoned to show the severity of his mistake, and to make the Emperor look badass. They've only spoken about him in the show, they'll do a "Rogue One" moment and have him show up for one scene.
All I can say is I hate this idea.
>Mothma wearing white
>Luthen wearing black
This was the last time they spoke as friends.
Memes aside, he's portrayed more as a "shady pragmatist" than a "virtuous noble". He's either a double-agent, or the Emperor has something on him. His quarrel with Saw Gurerra was intentional, to show he's even darker and jaded than the cynical Saw.
>black
Mostly navy! (that is darkisk blue)
whhgd
Yeah he's like the shiftiest guy in the galaxy but I don't know man.
He attacked an arrestor cruiser and destroyed 4 tie fighters
Yeah, double agents have a free pass for friendly fire. And even wet work on their own side.
Look, into how JSOC guys have killed basic grunts at Fort Bragg.
He did not need to kill those TIE fighters to escape and wasn't showing off to any other Rebels
>Look, into how JSOC guys have killed basic grunts at Fort Bragg.
[citation needed]
Luke wore white because he was innocent, then he wore gray in the second movie because he wasn't anymore. In RoTJ he wore black but he wasn't evil, he had just completed his arc to knowing and understanding the dark side.
If you wanna go with their colors they're white and black because that's the type of work they do. One does the clean noble work, the other the dirty work that needs to be done, but both for the same cause. She's less effective overall becuse she's limited by her path, he's more effective because there's nothing he won't do for the end result, he literally said he uses the (metaphorical) tools of his enemies to fight them. He's the one that fights fire with and angrier fire.
He's not a double agent. He's bad 'good guy', but not a 'good' 'guy'.
wew what a retarded take
Luthen Rael is a Hard Man making Hard Choices, not a double agent. He's supremely pragmatic and ruthless in the pursuit of his agenda and does not allow his emotions to cloud the cold calculus of war.
He sacrifices Kreegyr not because Kreegyr is somehow a threat to the Empire (protip: he's not, he's basically a gang leader running around with 30 gangbangers and looting shit) but because Lonni is 100 thousand times more valuable to the cause than Kreegyr could ever be.
Objectively, having a high placed mole lodged inside the heart of the enemies counter-intelligence apparatus is more valuable than any single small time raid on an out of the way outpost could ever be.
Luthen makes the right call in throwing Kreegyr to the wolves, a cold blooded one but the right one anyways.
And that's what makes Andor kino for me, it's basically what TLJ wanted to be but never could be, it does deconstruction of space opera tropes RIGHT - in this case it deconstructs the "daring Rebel spy" trope, the rebel spy is not some dashing rogue with a heart of gold who always does the right thing even when it makes things harder for him in the long run because the "dashing rogue" types get picked up by the ISB instantly and thrown into Dedra's Outer Rim torture dungeon. The real rebel spy is a cold hearted bastard, a ruthless pragmatist willing to sacrifice his own allies like pawns on a chessboard, but only if it lets his other pieces draw closer to checkmating the enemy.
this, the purpose of this character is to show us the good guys are not like the purest guys, they are not like the Jedi, they have passion, anger and fear, and thank to them the Republic could overcome, the Jedi were already obliterated and shitting their pants, i liked that.
Him being an enemy agent would be the gayest fucking twist ever.
Next to him being a fucking force user. After all this excellent writing and characterization of him there's zero chance Tony would do something so Hack.
Maybe Andor is the double agent , He did just kill 5000 prisoners for a rumour. Maybe the whole prison arc was a prison security test.
Kino Loy was in it too and Messi
Luthen isn't the double agent, his assistant Keyla is.
>his assistant Keyla is.
She's his handler for someone even bigger and shadier. Not an Imp though.
I didn't read the double-agent part.
Not happening my man.
>double-agent
If luti has a rat he would not have attacked that patrol ship
assokai in live action , double plus bad
After George Lucas sold STAR WARS to Disney, the space adventure saga lost its identity as this epic larger-than-life space opera rooted in mythology and imagination.
STAR WARS must follow certain rules established by George Lucas. It's the camera, the music, the sets, the costumes, the actors, the style of the dialogues, the aliens & creatures, etc. Everything within STAR WARS is very structured so that when you look at the screen, you immediately know that you are in a galaxy far far away, that this is STAR WARS and no other film.
Andor looks and feels like it's set in a completely different universe, or that it's some kind of weird dystopian sci-fi set on planet Earth, where the characters salvaged whatever old weapons and uniforms they could find. Everything in Andor looks off. The aesthetics and the style of STAR WARS are gone. The imagination is gone. Even when you put away the fact that the elements of STAR WARS are not there and it's just a brand name stamped onto some medieval-looking TV show, it's too boring to watch. There is no story to follow, the conversations are dull and empty.
We are stuck with watching the Empire vs the Rebels narrative forever, there is nothing new and exciting. At Disney, they don't understand STAR WARS. George Lucas created an exciting space fantasy adventure filled with exotic planets and strange exotic creatures and aliens and infused it with so many mythological, spiritual, psychological & political themes and he worked very hard to always make it new. Without him, STAR WARS is gone. No imagination, no creativity, and the lack of understanding of the building blocks of STAR WARS is the main reason why we are getting this kind of content from Disney.
copy pasta
Andor doesn't feel like "Star Wars," but not for the reason many shills of the series would think. When you look at the Lucas Star Wars, it was a pastiche. He used the conventions of various genres of movies to draw us into a world that felt simultaneously familiar (thanks to these borrowed visuals) and completely otherworldly. This was particularly visible in the production designs for the Lucas trilogies.
I don't think Tony Gilroy has a grasp on this concept at all. For an example, let's look at the sets you praise. While I'll agree on a technical level they are competent, but they're also... mundane. There's a complete loss of the otherworldly. While that may serve the story in terms of highlighting the mundane oppression of the Empire, it doesn't serve the "Star Wars" story this should be. They feel far more hard science fiction in nature and would be more appropriate for say "Firefly" than Star Wars. Compare Andor's sets to the Mandalorian. The Mandalorian is a western and everything about it's design oozes western.
As another example, I'd put forward his handling of the second arc about the payroll heist. I wasn't feeling the love for the show, but I sat up when I realized what episodes 4-6 would be, because I LOVE me some heist films. Heist films largely work because of the suspense building structure (clearly defining the plan, the unexpected complications and the character's improvisation to overcome these obstacles to come out on top) juxtaposed with the mystery of the heist leader's personal vendetta tied to the heist. Not only does the show deliver the heist in a flat way, there's also nothing otherworldly in terms of it's complications. It's a fantastical world, let's have a fantastical complication that makes it uniquely Star Wars.
My second complaint about the series is Andor, as a character, has ZERO agency. He spends the entire show being forced into situations rather than the character making a choice and dealing with the consequences. The randomness of his getting arrested in episode 7 was the straw that broke the camel's back for me with this show. He makes a bad decision to return home. The consequence should have been he gets caught there. But no... he escapes scott free and while on vacation is in the wrong place at the wrong time and gets randomly arrested for none of the things he's actually guilty of. THAT'S bad writing.
Pleb take. If you paid attention you would have noticed that he got arrested for being too cautious. Looked too suspicious, tried avoiding the cops. If he had just sat down on the beach or had the chick with him he would have been fine. He was still innocent but ultimately played into his own capture. Also sometimes that's how real like works, you're ultimately at the mercy of fate and sometimes it has nothing to do with your own personal decisions. How you respond to such things is what makes the difference. Hence the prison break. And the heist was actually pretty good.
Actually his capture was in a way thanks to his actions. His half assed actions led him to prison. He thought he could just escape the empire by laying low but that was what got him.
Stop posting these essays man nobody's reading them
>nobody's reading it
I'm reading it. Thank god I didn't waste my time on this utter goyslop shit. Nuwars will never be star wars
Andy should have shot Messi ,
He is a loose end.
Loose end to fucking what? Andor is going full ACAB now
Messi knows he is alive and could rat him out
to the g-men. He should have killed those fishermen as well. after he got to space miami
Space Miami is Kino loy , I hope we get spin off series
Damn Mon Mothma looks like THAT?
Nice perky milkers
Many Bothans died to bring us this photo
keyed
cute tits
pink and small, just the way I like them
perfect tits
small, pink, tight
im cooooming
The cast and crew would often take lengthy walks to get to a set for location filming. According to Diego Luna, when filming took place in Pitlochry, Scotland, they had to walk up a mountain for hours to set up one shot
isn't it called andir?
no
KINO
Bretty gud
Well done anon you win the thread!
Yo wtf where my nigga Timm???
>Based on THX-1138
>by George Lucas
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Would watch
Trash. Starships were not built on planets they were built in shipyards in orbit.
Kuat Drive Yards is a great and well documented example of this.
Not an andorfag, but they are not building them - they disassemble them. It is a scrapyard.
The Empire didn't decommission ships either. They put them out on the fringes and kept the newer stuff closer to home. They might have had a refit or two but you don't scrap a perfectly good cruiser.
Well, senpai, we don't see any of the PT ships or tech whatsoever in the OT. Unless you are stupid enough to think "lol it was just all off-screen". They scrapped it.
The galaxy is pretty big my friend. They were elsewhere.
Scraping the old models for parts for new ones would save alot of money
But that's what they did dude. Tarkin was a retard.
>Momma Andor's hologram kicks off the riot that or the Spooks stringing up that one guy
>Shining Path brown gf saves Bix
>Cyril gets to Ferrix
>Deedra arrives w/ Death Troopers
>the noose tightens around Cassian
>Cyril goes full Ahab over him and fucks up the WHOLE ISB op
I don't know what happens with Skarsgård, maybe his cover gets fully blown. Bails out Cassian and gets him off world.
Screencap this fuckerss.
dis nigga gettin round
watched 15 mins of the first episode and said to myself: yeah no
>ON PROGRAM
Sorry to hear you have the attention span of a microwave burrito
Will he be back for the finale?
Dudes building the Death Star in a smelter back at Morlana 1 as punishment - notice how Andor was making parts for "something" in Narkina 5.
The Empire has compartmentalised construction of the DS all over the galaxy, it's actually really fucking based. He'll be back in S2 once Syril is dead.
Loved him instantly, hope he's back
Dude is working in some Imp smelter, they're already a nightmare here on Earth w/ OSHA. He's gonna get cancer.
He was a good friend.
I'm a homosexual pedophile and I love Andor!
Imagine typing this just to spite andorfags
No matter what happens, we made it this far into 11 episodes of kino.
>everyone ITT is part of it
l-look I'm just a tourist, I'm here from Cinemaphile
I'm on my way to pick up some tendies
Don't play dumb.
You're an election tourist.
No, I'm on my way to the /got/ thread
Janny assistance, please.
>Name
Hey, uh Anon..Anon Ymous
>Charges?
>Thread Disruption, Anti-Janny Speech, Fleeing the scene of Anti-Janny activity, Attempted Sneedposting in a Janny monitored thread
I..I'm sorry, there's something wrong
>I wouldn't. You've got enough trouble without a Ban Appeal charge.
I'm just a lurker.
>Oh, apologies all around then. This used to be a six month ban. Oh well... *clicks old time credit card imprinter*
>Six years.
Six years? No, no wait...
>Change of board rules.
>Jannies: Take him away.
I didn't do anything, hey!
>Take it up with Hiroshimoot.
Whats the point of shore troopers?
We already had swamp troopers and sand troopers.
Swamp/Mud troopers are basic army, not part of the Stormtrooper Corp.
Also they're cool as shit. I love how they have various paint schemes for their rank.
>Whats the point of shore troopers?
Theres probably some minor shit like training and specialized equipment revolving around coastal warfare. But my headcanon is that its just another pointless program some imperial designer cooked up so their department could say they pioneered a new stormtrooper specialization
And for other Moffs and generals can say they have the best boys under their command. All these specialized troops just funnel more into their MIC and for Moffs to measure dicks and flex on each other.
the point is to have another model of toy to sell.
I'm just a sex tourist.
You know those troopers love that posting dude.
They're totally laying pipe off-duty.
He literally was.
Shoretroopers are awesome.
My first SW figures I bought in like a decade was this four pack of Shoretroopers.
shill spam thread
You're back to this bit? The thing w/ Skarsgård ship didn't work out?
Andor > Any other Star Wars film or show. Sorry, that’s just the facts!
So it's Deedra who will be summed before the Emperor right? That's a sure thing.
I sure hope so. That’s the kind of old character cameo I’m okay with, because it actually fits with the existing story. Imagine
>she’s there in his office
>the equivalent of a Chinese officer personally talking to Mao
>she knows he can send her entire family to Space Xinjiang (with regular visits from Dr Gorst) if she so much as coughs too loudly
>pant shitting would be off the charts
That’s the kind of kino we need
It'll be fun to see her squirm for a change since she's been full SS she wolf since the third episode.
He'll spook her but ultimately give her due credit and a major spook promotion.
There's no way I can go back to Mando after this.
Is he /ourguy/?
no he's a small dick incel
Cinemaphile posters and especially andorfriends are all 10 inch dick ripped Chads who fuck a new pussy every six hours
speaking from experience here
wow, you're literally me
>small dick incel
>lives with his mom
>butthurt as fuck
>alt right
yep, it sounds like could be a god among this fucking losers.
This dude is such an obvious alt-right/incel caricature. Like good lord the writing of this show is so stupid.
>This dude is such an obvious alt-right/incel caricature.
The internet has melted your brain.
he's gonna fuck up the ISBs ferrix operation, I'm sure of it
I've been saying this for weeks, even twice ITT.
This is happening. A full Ahab is happening.
You guys think we'll get a scene where the ISB actually addresses the prison break? Or is the Empire going full cover up mode
Maybe. They're more focused on the Spellhouse raid.
We'll only get a quick scene there as Deedra has to get to Ferrix w/ fucking Death Troopers.
last episode is 1.5 hrs long
EPICINESS AWAITS
HUZZAH
Is it really?
no its 50 something mins long
so longer than the average episode, but still under an hour
well I guess it if you add the recap, the intro and the credits into it, it might come to 90 mins but even then I doubt it
I'm so mad I could spit.
There is a half time show with Machine gun Kelly and Lipa Dua , Andor actor is going be on stage
Source? Incredibly based if so, effectively Gilroy sneaking in a whole movie to finish off season one. We can’t stop winning Andor bros…
Deedra dying somehow in the season finale
This might be needlessly complex and/or retarded, but I was thinking about Luthen while I was falling asleep kek and something occured to me: What if he's working for the Emperor as a double agent? His purpose being exactly what he's been doing in the show, increasingly larger scale (falseflag) attacks against the empire which then allows Palpy to further tighten their laws and control. It's entirely inline with Sheev's playbook, that's how he became Emperor in the first place.
Now the twist is Luthen is actually a double double agent. Because at the same time, he's using these attacks not as falseflags but (as it's depicted to us on the show) the beginning revolts of a rebellion.
>I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them
Maybe that line was deeper than we thought. The problem with Luthen is he's such a well constructed character you can basically invent 20 different backstories for him that all work.
Anon, read the thread an other poster said the same. You're both wrong fellas.
Okay I've read it, now you should read my post because my theory is different. I'm saying he's a double double agent. The reason it would be interesting is it means Palpatine had a central role in creating the Rebellion
That doesn't contradict what I've said though. It shows Palpatine's confidence / arrogance that he thinks this wouldn't happen
I did read your post, it's well thought-out but there's just no way.
I recently became a homeowner and if that happens, I'll give you the deed to the place dude. I think it's just that unlikely, it would be so hack.
Yeah I admit it's not likely, I just think it's an interesting idea. Congrats on your new home, I usually ask people now if you bought it the old fashion way with a mortgage or did you purchase it outright with crypto
>luthen is a double agent hes actually with the empire
>luthen is a double double agent he's actually using the empire to create the rebellion
reading comprehension
First off that's not what I said, I said Luthen is forging the rebellion behind Sheev's back. His only given mission was to stage attacks. And also have you been watching the show? There's only been one attack we've seen so far
Thanks man, we got a mortgage.
The most I ever got out of crypto was a new PC and like a nice jacket.
I do hope we learn some of his background though, was he a Separatist? He doesn't exactly scream huge fan of the former Republic.
Could have had a Jedi friend I think though.
Nice, good luck to you.
Yeah I hope this finale can spare a minute or two shedding a little light on his backstory. Some people think he's a former jedi after seeing that staff he has last episode pic related
That was just his stabby walking cane.
He's not force sensitive, Tony would find that hack.
But he either had a Jedi friend or was high up in the CIS.
I was leaning toward Force-sensitive relative, yeah. Maybe a niece or something, show that he's got a family but perhaps not direct offspring. The Kyber crystal was hers, and he salvaged it from the aftermath of a battle waged by the Republic.
It's not different at all.
Palpy doesn't need pretense to impose greater restrictions on the rebels.
And if he did he’d just stage a few false flags instead of foment an actual threat. It’s almost like Gilroy’s writing team read about what authoritarian governments actually do and random Cinemaphile posters haven’t
Dude knows about spooks too.
That "car crash" they put together in under sixty seconds? Lmao, yeah that's some real shit alright.
>You're both wrong
You literally have zero evidence to your claim lmao.
He’s said already that he’s an accelerationist who’s helping carry these attacks out in the explicit hope that the empire overreacts and people become too oppressed to stay complacent. Whether you want to believe that is up to you but that’s what I’m going with
Someone give me a qrd on the series
I've only watched the first two seasons of Mandalorian, and decided after how fucking bad S2 of Mando was I'd never watch another series of star wars.
But with all the depression posting and the Mad Men posting I am intrigued, is it actually Kino or is it actually a shills posting? I wouldn't mind some actual more dark storytelling abouty a smugglers/infiltrators story as he has to do actual evil shit, showing what a Rebellion truly is.
I would also like to know whether the character they replaced Kyle Katarn with is actually worth a fuck or not.
First of all
>nagger
>homosexual
>kike
>cunt
>gas the Disney board and all filonifags
With that out of the way, it’s kino. If you like a slow burn with payoffs every few episodes, you’ll love this
Mando S2 was good, tho.
But no, Cassian Andor is a much more boring character than Kyle Katarn. Andor has like no charisma, personality or screen presence whatsoever.
Just watch it yourself anon. It really is kino - I’m generally anti-Disney, was on here sperging out about the ST and Obi-Wan with the best of them, but this is actually good stuff. Picks up from Episode 3 onwards.
Not as pulpy or quirky as the original 6 movies, but plenty of references and settings that put it right at home in Imperial Era Star Wars. Spy thriller type. MC isn't the mo charismatic guy but rather a hardened street rat type who's worked his way up a bit and the story starts with him looking for his long lost sister, gets tangled into some bullshit which just keeps escalating all the while the proto Rebellion is getting off the ground and the MC gets caught up in it. Mature tones, deep lore and good acting/writing. Theres also alot of real world sets used
It's a prestige sci-fi political thriller disguised as a Star Wars show.
>It's a prestige sci-fi political thriller disguised as a Star Wars show.
Sounds really fucking Kino, are there a lot of KINO shots that I can screenshot?
its like if HBO did a Star Wars show instead of d*sney
I honestly cannot comprehend how they got away with making this show without so much as a single marvel quip or toy selling comic relief character
I bet d*sney will shit all over S2 and then Filoni will insert his fetish togruta into its festering corpse because 30 minutes without ahsoka is like torture to the average filonifag
They're already or just about to start filming.
I feel very good that they won't be able to rape it in time.
>is it actually Kino
It was a Character named ... wait for it .... Kino loy
I think I'm gonna sleep till 2:30. I wanted to be not shit tired when it airs and staying up for hours posting about it.
bros, is bix nood going to recover back to the cutie mechanic with a fat ass she was? shes gonna make it, right?
YPG brown gf is gonna save her come the riot on Ferrix.
>building a spaceship anywhere but in space
Retard
It's being scraped moron. Even the the Venator was the GOAT Tarkin's dumbass wanted thousands of Star Destroyers.
they're not building it they're disassembling and recycling it
venators were all thrown away when the clone wars ended, for dubious reasons but obviously you can't just let tens of thousands of capital ships just lying around so you have to dispose of them, and since its a huge waste to let all that metal just rust, you also need to recycle it
planets like ferrix have their whole economy built around this, dismantling old ships is literally the only thing anyone does, other than support and service economy jobs to service the 90% of people who recycle the ships
Why do andorfags come off as such pretentious, fart-sniffing pseuds, for what is essentially a very pedestrian and middling television show?
Don't worry anon. Your bing bing wahoo Star Wars shows will be back on air soon.
See? This is what I am talking about. They are no different from TLJfags. In fact, I have a feeling as if they're the same people. It's the same types of arguments:
>YOU ARE NOT MATURE ENOUGH FOR THIS MATURE STAR WARS FOR ADULTS!
>THIS IS THE BEST STAH WAHZ SINCE ESB!
>YOU JUST WANT PEW PEW!
>YOU ARE A PREQUELFAG!
>RIAN JOHNSON/TONY GILROY ARE ACTUAL DIRECTORS WITH TALENT!
>YOU WANTED LUKE TO BE A MARY SUE WITH NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
>GO WATCH HIM CHOP CHOP SOME ROBOTS AND BRINGING DOWN STAR DESTROYERS LIKE A MARY SUE!!!
Ew. Obnoxious breed of Star Wars "fans."
kys filonifag ahsoka is a whore, d*sney is full of homosexuals, tlj was an abomination, Andor is Kino and finally and most importantly, you will never be a woman
Who hurt you? Where did that come from?
They did exist. There is an occasional TLJfag here and there, even on Cinemaphile. But when they were at their peak, their "arguments" were pretty much the same.
>They did exist.
did maybe, that was cope because they wanted to believe the third movie could redeem the problems. And to their credit the movie could have been redeemed. It could have just been temple of doom to an otherwise decent trilogy. But RoS squashed that hope and made it so no one can eve stomach watching Force Awakens because it's just a painful mess of wasted potential and setups that never went anywhere.
>their arguments were the same
lol no you're just making shit up because you're upset a circlejerk you were riding is ended.
>decent trilogy
The trilogy was never decent. TFA was terrible from the start and cemented Rey as the single worst Mary Sue in the history of cinema, and the foundation of the setting was rotten and unimaginative from the get-go. I ought to discard your opinion right away, but I will give you the benefit of a doubt. Although I probably shouldn't.
>lol no you're just making shit up because you're upset a circlejerk you were riding is ended.
No, I am not. TLJfags' arguments are literally the exact same as the andorfags'. 1:1 copy. It's uncanny, really.
Nta and not going to bother reading all your posts but if you're going to Andor threads just to shit on them you're a homosexual incel
>the setting was rotten and unimaginative from the get-go
Why was the seventh installment of this franchise just like the others >:(
It was literally just a reboot of the OT, but worse. And they undid all of the legacy characters' achievements. And the movie never bothered to elaborate on any of that. Somehow, The First Order (an Imperial Remnant) is bigger and stronger than the Empire that preceded it. Somehow, the Rebellion is still a fucking REBELLION, despite literally fucking winning in ROTJ. Somehow, Han is still a smuggler. Somehow, Luke Skywalker has vanished. Man, this is really pointless, and at this point it's just beating the dead horse. Everyone knows that.
>And the movie never bothered to elaborate on any of that.
>Somehow, The First Order (an Imperial Remnant) is bigger and stronger than the Empire that preceded it.
>Somehow, the Rebellion is still a fucking REBELLION, despite literally fucking winning in ROTJ.
>Somehow, Han is still a smuggler.
>Somehow, Luke Skywalker has vanished.
Maybe if you'd watched it instead of zoom zooming through it you'd know those points are either wrong, gay, or retarded
I don’t recall a convincing explanation as to how the FO had the comically overblown resources it had, at least not in the movie itself.
Because Palpy was working behind the scenes the whole time. He used his force powers to conjure not only the Final Order, but the entire First Order and Starkiller base as well
How’d he do that? No, fuck you, JJ ain’t gonna explain shit, haven’t you heard of mystery boxes?
Ah. Hence my qualifier “convincing”.
That is key. It also begs the question of
>if Palpatine could just conjure armies out of force essence or whatever, why did he even bother with the whole “subvert the republic” thing that took the entire prequel trilogy to play out?
Everyone needs to remember that no matter how much they hate the sequel trilogy, the creators of TLJ and RoS and TFA clearly hated each other more.
Somehow Palpatine created 2 organizations bigger than the Empire while dead.
>The trilogy was never decent.
It didn't but at the time we didn't know that as a certainty. TFA was not a terrible start, she was a bland cardboard cutout of a character in that movie, anyone calling her a mary-sue is just being lazy about it. She lacked character but was given a bunch of hooks for someone else to use.
The third movie could have used those hooks. It could have been a far less shitty movie at least. It could have salvaged it to be better than the prequels rather than worse.
>TLJfags' arguments are literally the exact same as the andorfags
you keep saying it but can't explain it because you're full of shit, they aren't even making arguments, they're just calling you a retard.
>we didn't know that as a certainty. TFA was not a terrible start, she was a bland cardboard cutout of a character in that movie, anyone calling her a mary-sue is just being lazy about it.
Oh my god, you are so fucking retarded, you should kill yourself. I won't even bother. Bitch literally pulled a successful Jedi mind trick on the first attempt without any prior training and without even knowing that the Force is actually real the day before that.
chock that up to their gimmick of that generation of force users being super duper uber powerful even compared to Vader. They showed the antagonist do crazier shit because he was that powerful but trained.
Yes it's bad but it's salvageable, which was my only point.
Fuck off, retard. I won't chock that up to anything. It fundamentally contradicts star wars and George Lucas, who said that you need years of training, and you can't just pick that up randomly. Rey was an obnoxious Mary Sue from the get go.
>George Lucas, who said that you need years of training, and you can't just pick that up randomly
which he contradicted himself with time and again. You're supremely upset with all the least important things for a decent story, while super obsessed with unimportant and often retconned details of the franchise.
>which he contradicted himself with time and again
He didn't.
I actually like TFA when it came out but it’s been made progressively worse by its sequels to the point of being shit knowing all the interesting shit goes nowhere and the characters either get worse or never change.
Also in retrospect Hans entire inclusion is cringe as fuck.
>I actually like TFA when it came out
this is how it was for almost everyone. The problem was that it was set up with a lot of hooks that were interesting and good and easy to like, but because most of those were ruined and you know the rest won't ever get resoled, it's just depressing to even think about the movie now.
>TLJfags
those don't exist anon, you fell for shitposts.
>frogposter
That's all I need to say about this.
Sorry but you didn't strawman my post in that. I'm
I'm waiting
Waiting for what?
>Pretentious - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
A simple tale about Empire vs Rebels from 1977, with one side being objectively good freedom-fighters, and the other side being ruled by a literal cackling space Satan, who shoots lightning out of his finger tips. His name is (in)SIDIOUS, and his henchman is a black cyborg named (in)VADER and they use DEATH STARS. This is what the story boils down to: a simple tale of good and evil, about a farmer boy rescuing the princess from the castle and destroying the weapon, finding his destiny in the process. Andor makes all of that pretentious - by definition.
>Pedestrian - lacking inspiration or excitement; dull.
Self-explanatory.
>Middling - mediocre, second-rate.
>Pseuds - a person who wants to be thought of as having a lot of intelligence and knowledge but who is not really intelligent or knowledgeable.
Related to pretentiousness of the show.
Why did you reply to me? I am using the right words to describe precisely what I think.
Thank you I appreciate the effort anon.
>frogposter
No need to take any "critique" from this homo seriously.
Anything with more than 5 lines of text on this shithole is worth reading. It's just nice to get anons to practice their typing
Calm down sperg.
take note you russian ESL homosexual
THIS is how you bait a thread for (You)s
excellent work anon
>no different from TLJfags
What the fuck are you talking about, Anon? TLJfags HATE mature starewars, just look at the whole spcae-dogs on Canto Bight scene, they love and eat that shit up. TLJfags also HATE ESB, they think it's as boring as the senate scenes as AOTC! Andorbros HATE Johnson with a thick tar-like passion!
Who the fuck are you trying to strawman, your points make no goddamn sense!
>pretentious
>fart-sniffing pseuds
>very pedestrian
>middling
Bro look in the fucking mirror
>using the word pretentious in any context whatsoever
r*ddit is that way, homosexual
don't come back
>ON PROGRAM
Wil Vel make it onto Ferrix in time? She has to. She can't be on Courcent there's no reason for that and if not Ferrix there's nothing for her to do.
she will but she's not going because of Andor but because she wants to munch on that punjabi carpet
Well yeah but then her and brown radical save Bix most likely.
Why weren't their schizo homosexuals for that awful Boba Fett and that even more awful Obi-Wan show with that bitch who couldn't act her way out of a paperbag?
I just don't get it.
*there
My bad
its filonifags anon
filonifags cannot organically stand any star wars content that does not contain ahsoka tano in it, ESPECIALLY if its good content
but when the content in question is far superior in quality and every other metric to filonislop, then the filonifags go apopletic with rage and start schizoposting
book of boba and obiwan were shit so they got a pass, mando is filonislop so they love it but ANDOR is Gilroy spy KINO and this makes the filonifags explode with rage
not that anon, but jeez man, did filoni rape your daughter, or something?
no one is bringing him up, yet you're obsessed with the man...
The fact you have a gayass reaction image like this just proves his point lol.
I just remembered that I saw it in one of the previous threads and found it right now in the archives specifically to trigger the likes of him and (You). Looks like I've succeeded.
>t. filonifag
im sure you did
Really faggy use of your time man lol.
>said he while wasting his life on Cinemaphile
Were you even in the threads? Boba and Kenobi threads were shitstorm, because the shows were pretty bad. The only good episodes were Mando 2.5 in case of Boba, and in case of Obi-Wan, anons discussed the Vader vs Kenobi part where Kenobi slashed Vader's mask (although it was ripped off from Rebels). Otherwise, it was a neverending shitstorm week after week. I still have the webms saved. Seems like you guys are some tourists.
I dropped Obi-Wan after the first episode so I wouldn't know.
>Seems like you guys are some tourists.
For not watching garbage?
>leia panting
>grunting
>panting
>all grunting
>Obi-Wan panting
>grunting
That watermelon headed toddler is 10 years old at the time of shooting. She runs like she's 4 or 5.
>Space-vespas
>Melon-head Power Rangers chase scene
It was fucking SHIIIITTT
>"The flashbacks in this episode occur during the later years of the republic, prior to the start of the Clone Wars. The dead crewers aboard the transport corsair wear uniforms with a symbol closely related to the eventual Separatist Alliance."
>Corporation strip mines Kenari, kills the adults, and sends a ship to gas the survivors
>Gas leaks and kills the crew
>They send another ship to finish the job
>Maarva and Clem call them Republic ships because the Separatist movement doesn't exist yet
This plotline was still a waste of time
>The dead crewers aboard the transport corsair wear uniforms with a symbol closely related to the eventual Separatist Alliance
That was a goof, a huge one but still a goof. The ship wasn't CIS.
That's what he's saying though. They're not CIS because the CIs don't exist yet at that stage, the corporations and planets that make up the eventual CIS are still part of the Republic.
Oh sorry, I totally misread that post then.
I think we'll get a shot of the wedding for Mon's daughter going at the same time back and forth with shit escalating on Ferrix
Yeah, that has to be what we see of her in the finale. Can't have her not resolve this heading into the next season.
I did enjoy the cuts between the aldhani ritual and the heist in that one episode. Mon's daughter getting married seems a little rushed to me so hopefully they don't do that.
>Rogue One
>Mando S1
>Andor
>The Dooku episodes of that cartoon special
These are the only Disney Wars products I’ve liked, how much of a shill homosexual am I?
Stop seeking validation, no one cares what you liked or not. Stop being an attention whore.
Answer the question
Predictions?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/poy9R3poAnJ
>marva actually says "fuck" in the final episode - literally
Yikes.
>NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN KIDDIE SPACE MOVIES THEY CANT SAY HECKIN SWEARS!!!!!
>AHHHHH HELP ME MOMMY
he was just making a joke anon.
This is just tasteless. There is no reason to do it other than twitter bait. The word does not belong in Star Wars. Just like sequel shit had the word "ass" in it. Embarrassing. This is what Star Wars has been reduced to.
This is why nobody takes starwarsfags seriously.
Not even the EU in 40+ years of its history lowered itself to using real life slurs.
There is also something I noticed: when you listen to George talk, he is always eloquent and intelligent, well-mannered. I read a couple of Tony Gilroy's interviews the other day, and he is constantly swearing and talks like a retard. And he just had to shovel that shit into his show. This is really cringe.
What was the point of the prison arc.
Making Death Star parts, showing how Andor is resourceful and useful in a team while not being the leader, and Kino.
Empire is le bad and they also build the deth star. This is it.
That there can be hope and light even in the darkest of places.
There's a 100% chance Kleya is banging Luthen isn't there?
Highly likely
I'd love to see them fuck and of course they do, you can't be that passionate about a shared cause w/o fucking. Among Chinese Communist revolutionaries, having sex was referred to as “undisciplined guerrilla warfare.” Everyone is horny in a rebellion.
She does it for me more than any other Andor girl.
>people ITT think TFA was decent
It all makes sense now.
Elaborate.
You won’t.
I love Andor but hated TFA, only thing I liked about it was that I'd bang Rey. We're not all one person
you couldn't even reply to any posts because you can't deal with people making actual arguments for it.
Andor doesn't appeal to the TFA audience, if anything they are the ones crying about no references and lack of boom boom wacky cgi fests
>Andor doesn't appeal to the TFA audience
given the marketing, the audience was mostly meant to be kids and their parents so that it could spawn a new generation of star wars fans. Despite how shit they were, really young kids at least really liked the movies, but I guess Disney decided it was better to market cheaper animation to them on Disney+ while making shows for everyone else.
>child wedding
That's not very progressive of Andor.
Perrin looks like he's ok with it. Mon looks like she's not. Leida looks like she's in control. She wants to be a power player. She's going to be the Perrin of her marriage while the boy actually wants to go on space adventures and get away from high society and the criminal aspects of it
Why don't Star Wars writers have any sense of scale? We're talking about a rebellion supposedly across a whole galaxy, and the big cells are Kreegyr and his 30 men, and Saw and his couple X-Wings?
it's the known and settled parts of the galaxy, just like how earth empires might act as if they conquered the whole world and not just the coastline of a single sea.
>why didnt the rebellion just start with a fully fleshed out army able to take on the Empire???
The Rebellion has been going for years at this point.
No it wasn't. It was slowly growing into almost being a rebellion at this point. The main leaders are elite from the republic who only very recently realized they couldn't win using politics and the republic was gone, and everyone else are just people who were fighting back as the empire started stamping down, natural rebels defending their own not as part of a revolution.
The entirety of Andor disagrees, you have small pockets of freedom fighters like Saw and Kreegyr but they're independent of eachother. The actually full scale united rebellion we see in ANH doesnt exist yet, thats like the entire point of the 1st conversation between Saw and Luthen.
I said nothing about a united rebellion shitposter. 30 men is not only like 50 times smaller than say a random minor faction of the Syrian Civil War, it's smaller than a random minor Mexican street gang. You could literally say there are a thousand separate factions (there aren't because Luthen is only talking about a handful) and you'd still end up with a completely irrelevant force.
If you didn't want an answer why did you post?
This is the last post I'm wasting on you so please try to get this through your head. My problem is NOT that the factions in the show are disunited. That's fine. The problem is that every faction is laughably tiny, to the point where it doesn't matter if they united because the combined force would still be nothing.
This anon is correct.
But Star Wars was always like this. There were like 5 million clones in a galactic fucking war.
The rebellion was never very big. It fought with guerilla warfare punching way above their level with hit and runs. Even after ROTJ the empire could have EASILY crushed the rebellion if the emperor didn't die and the succession war occured
Why are the starships on the ground in that weird position?
pretty obvious it's a shipyard
Starships should be built in space. Building them on the ground is fucking retarded.
I genuinely do not understand his plot.
My guess is to show that the empire does have some grassroots support and that not everyone is primed for a rebellion. I could be being too generous with my interpretation though. His arc does somewhat pointless for the time being.
Syril is getting Skeen'd isn't he?
Did any reasonable person expect Skeen to be the traitor
I think he's going to be the only one who manages to almost catch Cassian but Cassian shoots him towards the end of the episode
Shouldn't those be built in orbit?
See
Of course Star Wars fags, and even worse Andor fags will defend anything.
MORONS
THEY ARE SCRAPYARDS NOT SHIPYARDS
The logic remains the same. Space has a lot more fucking room to house these ships as they are more easily taken apart in 0 gravity. Landing these things and taken them apart on the ground is just fucking retarded.
>have a scrapyard in space
>sawing through a ship, all the debris flies off into space
>tiny bits of orbital debris everywhere posing a constant hazard
>everyone needs specialized equipment
>installation is more expensive
it makes more sense to dump this shit on planet and let wagies deal with it
>sawing through a ship, all the debris flies off into space
Ships are assembled with nuts, bolts, and welding and they can be disassembled as such.
>tiny bits of orbital debris everywhere posing a constant hazard
They would burn up upon re-entry into the planets atmosphere
>everyone needs specialized equipment
They need special equipment on the ground as well. In this pic we literally see these ships being help up by giant pylons and there are small ships with cables pulling huge chunks off. This is all just a fucking waste of money as keeping it space avoids all this nonsense.
>installation is more expensive
See above.
>it makes more sense to dump this shit on planet and let wagies deal with it
This I agree with, but the owners would want less wagies, not more..
>*Kessler syndrome’s your low planetary orbit*
Heh, nothing personnel, kid
look at the level of desperate nitpicking that chuds have to engage in now
>Ships are assembled with nuts, bolts, and welding and they can be disassembled as such.
You are a fucking retard
https://maritimesa.org/grade-11/2016/09/07/11-2-2-5-ship-scrapping-also-known-as-ship-recycling/
>Landing these things and taken them apart on the ground is just fucking retarded.
It really doesn't matter. Fixating on it is a waste of time and intellect.
I might just basedface when Deedra lands on world with a detachment of Death Troopers.