Yes. The designs look fine (outside of maybe that weird pink haired guy on the left?)
If the 'issues' are so obvious then maybe you can take 20 seconds to actually explain them, hm?
I don't see the problem.
The designs look fine. What's the issue here?
The designs look like the typical generic shit you see from white people trying to make "anime" designs.
Which is to say, they're bad, and you only think they're fine because you're probably in your 30s, and thus hilariously out-of-touch.
All you said is that they're "generic".
That doesn't explain why they're bad. Maybe it's "generic" because it works?
That's why anime (and light novels) have 14 different isekai every season.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Maybe it's "generic" because it works?
Yea, like I said, you are out-of-touch as frick.
How old are you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
probably older than you, zoomer
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, that's my point.
You are extremely out of touch, stick to talking about cartoons, boomer.
Anime designs are anime designs and haven't really changed in decades beyond animation in general becoming HD and cleaner animated and done by computer. What exactly is an in touch anime design these days then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, anon has a point.
I don't know how they do it, but modern anime does avoid same face syndrome somehow. It's not as blatant as it used to be. No same face on a bell head: your classic Sailormoon-style anime.
Sorry, but everything has to be catered towards blacks as reparations from things that happened over half a century ago. If you say otherwise, you're a bigot.
this the funniest thing I've read on here in awhile. do you watch shit like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and say "wtf why are there so many black people in this, they're only 12% of the US population"? lmao
Sorry, but everything has to be catered towards blacks as reparations from things that happened over half a century ago. If you say otherwise, you're a bigot.
You appeal to more demographics, you get more customers. Cry me a river.
Nah, I'm black and I'd still rather watch anime over this, as would 90% of black male children.
Even an anime that had 0 black people is preferable to modern cartoons, diversity and inclusion is not a good replacement for interesting stories, good animation, actual action, and character designs that don't make me want to puke.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes black people are rare in Japan and unrealistic
But magic and demons and superpowers is totally real and common
2 years ago
Anonymous
Reddit is that way homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't care about what's realistic or not, I just don't give a shit about whether or not a show has black people in it or not, and I'm not going to watch some shitty, boring cartoon over an anime I enjoy just because the former has black people in it, and the inclusion of black people in an anime wouldn't make me enjoy it any more than I already do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Man, I didn't notice how bad of a run-on sentence this was when I typed it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Remember Neo Yokio? Neither do I....
2 years ago
Anonymous
Honestly I don't even consider that an anime, I'm just glad that Will Smith torpedoed his career so I won't have to have his annoying homosexual son shoved down my throat anymore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The difference is that people like superpowers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bringing lots of magic, demons and superpowers to everyday Japan is an exciting fantasy, bringing lots of black people to Japan is a dystopia.
Also there's this thing called 'suspension of disbelief', which is where in order to make the audience buy into a fantasy concept, it needs to make some sort of sense.
Like if you have a medieval based fantasy world with magic, then having airplanes and machine guns will break the immersion. Showing Japan with lots of black people without any logical explanation will do the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Uh huh dragons and demons and magic is japenese and deserve presentation but black people don’t eh?
Yup I do that’s what the audience are for
If the industry doesn’t listen to the audeince then they’re not good
Doesn’t matter what they’re and apparently you think that the whole world is either “American” or “foreign”
Your victim complex is really showing
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Uh huh dragons and demons and magic is japenese and deserve presentation but black people don’t eh?
Yes homosexual, even your fellow redditors agree https://reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/k5udyb/your_fantasy_world_has_dragons_but_not/
Cry about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>https://reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/k5udyb/your_fantasy_world_has_dragons_but_not/
Kek they probably couldn’t handle seeing killer bee near their east asian tradwife dream hinata hyuga.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Raikagegay?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Kumogakure's Law
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm trying to parse this gibberish, but to no avail
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then you have low reading comprehension
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's Americanspeak, don't bother trying to understand it.
He'll tire himself out then go OD on opiates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If the industry doesn’t listen to the audeince then they’re not good >americans are this deluded that they think they're the primary audience for manga/anime
I'll make it simple for you
the japanese don't like black people. they have never liked black people, they never will like black people, and trying to guilt-trip them into adding more nigs into their own animation in their own country with barely any black people because "muh diversity" pitches by braindead americans will not change that fact
adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash because, believe it or not, the japanese don't want to see black people in their animation (along with a number of other foreign countries)
cope and seethe about that being "unfair" all you want, this is the truth and it will not change anytime soon
also manga sells in fricking spades anyways moron, their audience seems pretty satisfied as is
2 years ago
Anonymous
>adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash because, believe it or not, the japanese don't want to see black people in their animation
Wrong
Naruto has a whole village of black people.
Jojo has a few black characters. Part 2 features a young black kid named Smokey Brown, though he's more of a support character. In part 3 Avdol is black and one of the Stardust Crusaders. Enrico Pucci, the main villain of part 6, is also black.
In Hajime no Ippo one of Ippo's first fights is with a black American boxer named Jason Ozuma. There's also Takamura's fight with an American man named Bryan Hawk. I'm not sure if Hawk is supposed to be black though. He's dark skinned but he has straight blonde hair and blue eyes.
Akagi Takenori from Slam Dunk very much looks like he's black or half-black, but there's never any reference to his heritage and his sister is a small Japanese girl.
Grappler Baki also prominently features a black character named Mohammad Alai and his son, who has the same name.
Captain Tsubasa had a lot of black characters. Granted they were all based of real soccer players, but they were all drawn normally and not with exaggerated /racist features.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Naruto has a whole village of black people.
Naruto hasn't been relevant in Japan since like 2010. Boruto can't even break 1 million units sold nowadays. >Enrico Pucci, the main villain of part 6, is also black.
Pucci is Italian, if he was black you Americans would have had a black guy voice him and not an Asian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Naruto has a whole village of black people.
what?
And some American blacks didn't even fricking like Killer Bee. They were worried he'd start rapping about fricking McChicken.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah but on the other hand anyone that puts Sasuke in his place is based which makes the entire cloud village the best characters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>American blacks didn't even fricking like Killer Bee. They were worried he'd start rapping about fricking McChicken.
Not really, they like it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you black?
If not, then please don't try to speak for me.
That shit was corny, though I had already checked out of Naruto by that point since it just turned into a shitty version of DBZ mixed with a shitty version of Jojo with everyone summoning their planetbusting stands.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA but I am and I think cloud village is okay. There's a reason Raikage Gold was the highest rating for episodes in the toonami threads back in the day; those characters tended to make shitty arcs better by being competent and able to say "hey Naruto your gay obsession with this terrorist is fricking stupid so we're gonna lariat him to death"
Cloud village was the best of a bad series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>in the toonami threads
My dude, Cinemaphile has dogshit taste in literally everything, that doesn't mean much.
Naruto went to shit with Shipudden.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Naruto went to shit with Shipudden.
I am not disagreeing. I prefer One Piece anyway
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know anybody who actually liked Killer Bee. Now his brother? The Raikage who fricking powerbombed Sasugay? People loved him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Not really, they like it
No, I absolutely hated Killer Bee at first but then he turned out to be more than a caricature
2 years ago
Anonymous
He smoked Sasuke.
For that, he’ll always be a Chad to me
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Pucci is Italian, if he was black you Americans would have had a black guy voice him and not an Asian.
The race of a character and the race of the VA don't always match up. Phil LaMarr is voices Samurai Jack and LaMarr is nowhere near Asian last time I checked. Same thing with Toby Huss voicing Kahn Souphanousinphone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The race of a character and the race of the VA don't always match up.
Unless it's a black character.
Then going Americans make sure to cast a black person.
Phil LaMarr gets away with it because he's black and Toby Huss got away with it because KotH ended in 2009, you can bet your ass that he won't be playing Kahn in the reboot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Naruto has a whole village of black people.
what?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is true. Kumogakure, The Hidden Cloud Village in the Land of Lightning is populated by a fantasy race of dark skinned people with colorful hair. They are meant to look 'black' instead of just 'tanned anime Asian' though this is more apparent in the manga. The mangaka put them in because he thought it would be cool and not as a matter of mandate which makes all the difference.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the authors put like one black people in their animation, that means the readers want more black people and they wouldn't complain if it happened!
how delusional can you be lmao
you really think that means japanese readers would be okay with black people appearing consistently in a large majority of manga? nobody is arguing that one black person will kill sales, adding more for the sake of "diversity" will absolutely do so
there's a reason the majority of the examples you listed are a minor character(s), a one-time villain, ambiguously black to the point where not even you're fricking sure yourself, or based on actual people so they have an excuse to be black
the japanese see one or two black people and they don't care, that doesn't mean that they WANT to see more black people. only americans care about this forced "diversity" bullshit, as if diversity is inherently a good thing
2 years ago
Anonymous
>moving goalpost
Incredible. Thats some real fragility right there
2 years ago
Anonymous
>only americans care
No we don't, the only ones who do are brainwashed from the RIDICULOUS demoralization and propaganda the U.S. has had for over 50 years at this point. And the people who say they like it rarely actually watch or read it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Enrico Pucci
Pucci isn't black he's a very dark skinned Italian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ironically, his entire origin story revolves around blackness
2 years ago
Anonymous
>most popular show in Japan at the moment has an important black character in it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>most popular show in Japan at the moment
What show is this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lycoris Recoil
2 years ago
Anonymous
>most popular show in Japan at the moment has an important black character in it
Anon, no one's watching Lycoris Recoil for the black dude.
They're only interested in the cute girls, he has pretty much zero impact unless you're American since mutts are obsessed with blacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and? He's still an important character and no ones complain about him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because no one cares that he exists since he's basically a non-character with no screen time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But you says adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash, no?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't, but I'll gladly support that sentiment.
One black background character is not diversity, and chances are the native audience would prefer if he wasn't there, since that takes screentime away from the cute girls.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One black background character is not diversity, and chances are the native audience would prefer if he wasn't there, since that takes screentime away from the cute girls.
Kek that some mental gymnastics
2 years ago
Anonymous
Moving goalpost already or different anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
First I'm hearing of it. What's this guy's name? I'll add him to my chart of black anime characters
2 years ago
Anonymous
gr8 b8 m8
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
But the most popular anime in Japan right now is Isekai Ojiisan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Twitter posts >Call of the Night near the top, a show that can't even break the top 20 in Japan
Why are all Americans always such liars?
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, that further proves my point.
The most popular anime in Japan right now is Isekai Ojiisan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and the second most popular is Lycoris Recoil
2 years ago
Anonymous
But not the most popular, like you tried to state.
So I ask again, why are Americans such liars?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok fine I was wrong about it being number one. Still doesn't change the fact that it's insanely popular with japs
And he gets like 5 minutes of screentime before being relegated to a background character.
impact/significance to the characters and plot>screen time
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's insanely popular with japs
Nah, insanely popular would be Demon Slayer, which had been broadcast in 19% of homes in Japan.
Lycoris is just mildly popular by original anime standards, and it can't evnlen beat the obligatory big-name isekai of the season.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>impact/significance to the characters and plot>screen time
Now THAT is a cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's step 2 of 3 >Character X isn't black >Okay character X is black but they're not important >Okay they're important but the show isn't popular
Anons will do whatever's necessary to pretend everyone hates black people as much as they do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
X isn't black
I don't think anyone ever said that about the character you posted.
And again, he gets like 5 minutes of screentime.
This is a really weird cope and I say that as someone who isn't even white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't think anyone ever said that about the character you posted.
I'm referring to anons earlier in the thread.
You need to get that black dick out of your mouth before you start talking.
Anon the dick is my own. I can't bend that far.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm referring to anons earlier in the thread.
Well they're not wrong.
Look, I get it, I'm also black, so I get how insecure some of us can get, but you gotta tone this shit down because I get 2nd hand embarrassment whenever I see some black dude online trying to argue that actually everyone loves black people.
It SCREAMS "I have never had to live around someone who was not American."
2 years ago
Anonymous
why do you hate yourself so much
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't, I'm just Jamaican.
American blacks are extremely tiring to be around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>American blacks are extremely tiring to be around
Try haitians, here in latam we got a wave of refugees after that shithole crashed for the Nth time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Haitians aren't human as far as I'm concerned, they don't count.
American blacks can at least be recognized as something human even if they're hilariously ignorant and annoying as frick (like many Americans), Haitians are closer to a virus than a human.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm Mexican but I understand where you're coming from
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I get that. To be clear I think that I think that the reason you see black people in anime is because it's one of the three phenotypes they use to denote "foreigner"
1. Blonde haired, blue eyed chads and stacy's with huge noses and boobs
2. Chinese girl with two hair buns that talks like a moronic drunk baby
3. homies.
Japanese people are largely indifferent. Or more accurately, I think they hate all non Japanese gaijin equally and aren't making any special distinction towards hating black people especially more than they do anyone else.
It's just that that lack of specific hatred is considered an improvement or an agenda by some. Cinemaphile spends so much of its time seething about black character existing the idea that a country's media can just have them be in a show tends to confuse people on both sides of the argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Japanese people are largely indifferent. Or more accurately, I think they hate all non Japanese gaijin equally and aren't making any special distinction towards hating black people especially more than they do anyone else.
To be fair, that applies to many people.
Frankly, most people don't like foreigners, since foreigners tend to be tourists, and tourists tend to be annoying c**ts, ESPECIALLY the American ones, my fricking god.
It just gets weird when you have that one autistic gay fat black dude spamming Cinemaphile for the last half a decade, that kind of shit does more harm than good and just makes it more likely that people are going to hate you since whenever they're exposed to black people it's literally always a negative interaction.
It's the same reason so many people fricking despise Americans, most Americans do a shit job of presenting themselves as anything other than an annoying ignorant fricknugget, and that tends to make you very hateable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You need to get that black dick out of your mouth before you start talking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Still doesn't change the fact that it's insanely popular with japs
Dude, the difference between the top 5 is not huge, and this is the summer season, there's very little quality competition since this is not where networks schedule the stuff they think will draw the most viewers given that viewership drops massively during summer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, there's only trash this season.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>twitter metrics
he said popular shows
2 years ago
Anonymous
He is not even the main protagonist. He is about as relevant as Duke from Batman.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He is about as relevant as Duke from Batman.
That'd probably be a much stronger point if Cinemaphile wasn't constantly seething about Duke too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's an important supporting character
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's really not, most people wouldn't even remember his name.
Hell, you probably don't remember his name without looking it up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He's really not, most people wouldn't even remember his name.
This is literally just you assuming things he's literally the sensei of the main girl and is helping out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And he gets like 5 minutes of screentime before being relegated to a background character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We call those token blacks, anon. Those have been a thing in Western and Eastern media for decades.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually it's not the most popular show in Japan at the moment, but close enough.
Having said that, this character is nothing but a cardboard helper, 99.9% of the screentime are between the two mc girls, even their new sidekick cardboard 'super hacker girl' has had more screentime.
It's a decent show storywise with excellent production values for an original summer anime, even though it's very ehh... 'inspired' by Gunslinger Girl.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lycoris Recoil
The most popular animu in Japan right now is Spy x Family you idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the japanese don't like black people. they have never liked black people, they never will like black people
According to who? You never be Japanese
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Greasy American who has never set foot in Japan trying to claim he knows what the Japanese people like and dislike.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the japanese don't like black people.
They are literally shitskins though, they are the closest to blacks out there
2 years ago
Anonymous
The creator of Cowboy Beebop intentionally made his cast diverse for the sake of having more representation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This might be shocking to you but majority of the world outside of America don't give a shit about black people. Even in America where they are tolerated, majority of the races in America hate them as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>source: just believe me bro
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Like if you have a medieval based fantasy world with magic, then having airplanes and machine guns will break the immersion. Showing Japan with lots of black people without any logical explanation will do the same
That's a crappy analogy. Most of the fantasy animes take place in a made up world (not only based on medieval european, japan, etc). There is no reason why black people wouldn't exist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not saying they don't exist in usch a world, but they would not exist except in extremely limited circumstances in places based upon medieval europe or japan.
Most fantasy involving magic goes to great lenghts to explain the logic behind said magic to sell the concept, there's no logic to a huge mix of caucasian, asian and black people in the same area in a fantasy setting, trying to model such a setting after the ethnical hyper mix of California or New York makes no sense.
The reason we have such distinct melanin levels and other differences in physical traits across the world is due to sun exposure and homogenous gene pools over long periods of time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there's no logic to a huge mix of caucasian, asian and black people in the same area in a fantasy setting
And someone couldn't just make up logic for that?
"B-but why would they?"
Because they fricking can.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And someone couldn't just make up logic for that?
They could, but it would take everyone who's not an American out of the setting immediately.
This is why American media has no global appeal outside of dumb CGI explosion theme parks and ADHD CGI cartoons that people take their kids to to keep them entertained for 2 hours.
Scorsese was 100% right about modern American "cinema."
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but it would take everyone who's not an American out of the setting immediately.
You know black people exist in places that aren't in America, right? And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
>If the industry doesn’t listen to the audeince then they’re not good >americans are this deluded that they think they're the primary audience for manga/anime
I'll make it simple for you
the japanese don't like black people. they have never liked black people, they never will like black people, and trying to guilt-trip them into adding more nigs into their own animation in their own country with barely any black people because "muh diversity" pitches by braindead americans will not change that fact
adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash because, believe it or not, the japanese don't want to see black people in their animation (along with a number of other foreign countries)
cope and seethe about that being "unfair" all you want, this is the truth and it will not change anytime soon
also manga sells in fricking spades anyways moron, their audience seems pretty satisfied as is
>the Japanese don't like black people
Plenty of Japanese manga authors seem to like blacks well enough to include them in their works
You can say the same shit about Japanese people not liking the Chinese, but you'll still find plenty of Chinese people in manga/anime.
Shit, there are more blacks in manga/anime than fricking Koreans and Korea is right next door!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can't wait until the country collapses so you die of starvation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
anime is mainstream now. Dweebweed should find another cliff to hang from
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You know black people exist in places that aren't in America, right? And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
Sorry anon. You can't guilt a country to make a bento box the way you like it. Now shut up and go read your awful indie WE WUZ KANGZ comic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
God you are so American it hurts.
There are maybe 20k black people in all of Japan, including the American ones.
You people are worse than the Chinese when it comes to your cultural imperialism, and you wonder why no one likes you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just remind you, these people fine with brown and tan people (human, elf, etc) but not with black & dark-skinned people
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fantasy worlds are based on the real world
>Black person here
Larp
Cope
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is already debunked by this anon [...]
If the fantasy setting wasn't based in European mythos most of the time then you'd have a point, but it isn't, therefore having half your cast be black and brown just doesn't make sense.
It goes both ways too, so a fantasy setting based in chinese mythos would also be weird to look at if half to the population is white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is what gets me. Magical girls and super strong aliens are ok, but the moment a different race (still human) shows up and isn’t a weird caricature (looking at you, Mr. Popo) it becomes “too forced” and “unrealistic”
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, classic "argument". However, that is a false equivalence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is already debunked by this anon
>Like if you have a medieval based fantasy world with magic, then having airplanes and machine guns will break the immersion. Showing Japan with lots of black people without any logical explanation will do the same
That's a crappy analogy. Most of the fantasy animes take place in a made up world (not only based on medieval european, japan, etc). There is no reason why black people wouldn't exist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, because in medieval times societies were know to be multicultural, and people didn't live in their own cities for their whole lives.
There are no black people in My Hero Acadmica and Demon Slayer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are no black people in My Hero Acadmica
2 years ago
Anonymous
Name a single black character in My Hero Acadmica.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rock Lock
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ken Takagi
Not black
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dark skin, nappy black hair, pronounced lips, and has the typical anime "westerner nose" >not black
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Is responsible for his wife and daughter
Clearly not black.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>write shitty prolonged inconsequential arc >throw in mutt baby for no reason
It's like Hori wanted to tank his own manga
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mirko.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mirko was never black. I honestly don't know why you people assume she is.
The main characters aren’t white either
I have no problem with this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mirko isn't black American-kun.
It is common to have tanned characters like her or nagatoro, they are in fact not black.
This is a black character
Rock Lock
2 years ago
Anonymous
All dark skinned characters African American. That's the way I see it and if you don't conform to my views you are racist
2 years ago
Anonymous
NOOOOOO I WAS KIDDING, MODS PLS DON'T BAN ME
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm confident that she's not from Japan, anyways these race discussion and debates are silly and I'm glad that Cinemaphile can never have these thread. Sadly /vp/ is flooded with /misc/ race discussion. They even claim that a character is Latin American and Polynesian with no evidence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's more obvious in the Vigilantes spinoff where you see her in high school but Mirko is meant to be designed in the gyaru archetype and really is just tan.
Rock Lock's still counts though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you know what a Gyaru is? Are you aware that this was a somewhat popular alternative fashion trend 30 years ago? I'm no sure how you think that Gyaru = a bunny hero.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mirko ain't black. You need to accept reality and the fact that the world outside of America doesn't revolve around your demographic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never said she was black, she's just not Japanese.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are even more moronic if you truly believe that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact that she's a bunny isn't relevant since the setting is full of mutants. She dresses like a gal in high school
2 years ago
Anonymous
>30 years ago
Dude, romcom nowadays are full of gyaru characters, frick are you talking about?
2 years ago
Anonymous
God I love gyaru so much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm confident that she's not from Japan,
That's because you're a fricking moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i will never understand twitter autists seeing a character named Nagatoro Hayase and saying ''yup, niggress''
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is Bob Makihara. Tell me how he's actually Japanese.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The main characters aren’t white either
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that supposed to be a gotcha?
Only actual white, unironic supremacists insist that all anime characters are white.
>and almost all shonen have black people.
It's actually a small minority, and I say that as someone who's black.
I don't want American race autism in my anime, thanks, make all the characters Japanese for all I care.
You homosexuals already ruined western animation beyond repair with your autism.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't speak for all black people, and it's sad that you hate yourself so much that you're willing to side with chuds, you know, the ones that actually hate your guts and want you dead?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not him, but I speak for all black people, and we will never accept your troony homosexualry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and it's sad that you hate yourself so much that you're willing to side with chuds
I'd rather side with chuds than annoying gay white people any day of the week.
They hate me for being black, you hate me for not being a homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the both hate you. why side with either?
2 years ago
Anonymous
To get rid of the one that's more annoying of course.
Which, as it stands currently, is homosexuals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and how are you getting rid of them?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Making them feel unwelcome of course.
As soon as they stop being annoying I'll gladly stop, but I don't see that happening any time soon, so...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Making them feel unwelcome of course.
Yeah because that worked out so well for Blacks in the South. The South made Blacks feel so unwelcomed that the majority of the Black population is STILL in the South. Face it, you'll never get rid of them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Guess we'll have to ally with the Latinos and get rid of them that way then.
I'd be fine with corralling all the gays in white neighborhoods and building a big wall (and firewall of course) around them all so the rest of us don't have to deal with them.
They deserve each other after all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so once youve done that, are you gonna take it to the racist white people that have no problem laughing at your death, right? not saying gays dont either, but your arent gonna stop after being done with the gays, right
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure, so long as my first mission is complete.
I don't like to leave things half done.
We all know America is on its last legs at this point so it's only a matter of time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
probably because one side has way more influence in the forms of media created and is actively making the things I once enjoyed worse? because one side isn't accusing me of being a piece of shit if I don't play into the delusion of trannies? probably because one side won't immediately pretend to like you but then immediately disown you the second you say something that goes against their narrative?
just because I'm black doesn't mean I'll blindly support anything made by those homosexuals. I'll just take the racists, they're infinitely less annoying than homosexuals ever have been and they don't pretend to like me
so once youve done that, are you gonna take it to the racist white people that have no problem laughing at your death, right? not saying gays dont either, but your arent gonna stop after being done with the gays, right
what is there to take to them? they don't have an entire month pandering to them nor are they constantly begging for recognition, they're not pushed as being the "right choice," like homosexuals are >inb4 "but you have black history month-"
I genuinely do not give a shit about that either
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because one side isn't accusing me of being a piece of shit if I don't play into the delusion of trannies?
This is a big one for me.
I would have no issue with the LGBTBRRRAAAPPPPs if they weren't so annoying about all this moronic gender autism.
But they are, so I want them to frick off, preferably of their own will, but barring that, via force.
And I would gladly ignore racists to get rid of them because nowadays racists are already widely considered bad people by society, unless of course they put on a dress and insist they're the opposite sex.
2 years ago
Anonymous
....how old are you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>....how old are you?
Old enough to remember when every single modern leftist policy was "le slippery slope fallacy that will never happen".
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok, why are you pretending to be black on the internet
2 years ago
Anonymous
nice job proving you're a piece of shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean queers always have this compulsive need to make their homosexualry in the spotlight of most situations because they're moronic narcists to begins with. Like you have to have brain problems to be homosexual.
Racists' mostly think back on the last time a stereotype made the new for some graphic crime and they believe it affirms their belief, but will make friend with a person of said stereotype, just believing their friend is the exception not the rule
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seriously have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
I bet you scream Black person when you see a black person walk across the street
once again western artists are copying anime without understanding any of the actual structure, design tastes, or appeal to popular, successful anime. at least in the past anime parodies tended to be affectionate, this is just the equivalent to a family guy cutaway referencing japan
This ginger Shinji ass lookin mother fricker
this doesn't even look like an anime it looks like a crummy early 2000s action cartoon from Kids WB. I swear I've seen this exact character in the background of a Chaotic episode
some fusionfall art (and most models) really struck out but the good ones still oddly hold up. they look out of place, but they're definitely appealing in their own right and appeals to my inner, edgy teenager.
>this is just the equivalent to a family guy cutaway referencing japan
a family guy cutaway would be a Speed Racer/Voltron parody and you know it
I swear they've done a joke like that before but my point is that there's just no love in it. people in modern industry seem to both love anime but have this abject disdain for nearly every aspect of it.
some fusionfall art (and most models) really struck out but the good ones still oddly hold up. they look out of place, but they're definitely appealing in their own right and appeals to my inner, edgy teenager.
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I swear they've done a joke like that before but my point is that there's just no love in it. people in modern industry seem to both love anime but have this abject disdain for nearly every aspect of it.
helps that fusion fall was designed by actual asians and not AZNs who grew up in mutthole
I was expecting worse, but the fact that this book was authored by Tadashi Ozawa, who has experience in the industry working for Studio Ghibli with part of his job actually being to train new animators, this doesn't seem like that bad a resource to draw from.
I mean yeah the art is technically fine but it looks like they asked a team from 2005 to design this. It might be the point though, that it looks like "baby's first attempt at anime".
Is it just me or does every anime reference done by a western cartoon feel like it's through clenched teeth? I got that same feeling back in the day when cartoonists were obviously seething at shit like Pokemon being so popular.
>Is it just me or does every anime reference done by a western cartoon feel like it's through clenched teeth?
Nah, I get that feeling too.
Probably because you can see what a lot of animators and industry people say online and tell what they seethe at, a lot of which is often present in anime.
>Comparing Steven Universe to CotC
Steven Universe has great character designs. The pilot designs were good and the series designs were good. Not liking the art style itself is one thing, and the off-model storyboarding was ridiculous, but the designs are very good.
>Steven Universe has great character designs.
Pearl has the ugliest corvax nose I've ever and Amethyst's lips legitimately look like a dog's butthole.
Not really all that great if you ask me, especially when you begin comparing it to other shows from that same network.
Yes. The designs look fine (outside of maybe that weird pink haired guy on the left?)
If the 'issues' are so obvious then maybe you can take 20 seconds to actually explain them, hm?
Yeah, they do >BUT ITS FROM A SHOW I DONT LIKE
So what? They still look fine.
You morons are blind, holy shit. No wonder America is having a cultural decline if these designs are "fine"
>You sound like you're implying "cultural decline" is some natural thing,
It is when people intentionally worship ugliness as a way to be "valid" and intentionally sabotaging your own industry for cheap labor and money.
It's got brown people in it and Cinemaphile is full of people that think anime doesn't have brown people and that all the characters are ackshully white.
I don't see the problem.
The designs look fine. What's the issue here?
Imagine being this gay. Like, not normal gay, but like stuffing 5 dicks into their mouth at a time, defending marvel cinematic universe, and chanting "BLM" levels of gay.
They don't look fine, that's the issue.
CotC's character designs already look moronic as frick in its own show, trying to adapt them into an "anime" style just makes them looks even worse.
I honestly like how good the anime community generally is with gatekeeping and shitting on shit like this. It's so much nicer than the western cartoon community where almost all creators constantly dicksuck their corporate overlords in hopes of staying their graces.
japan, for better or worse, is very sink-or-swim when it comes to their media. if something doesn't sell merch/dvds or attract attention, the plug will be pulled and that's usually it for the project. fans are the backbone of a successful anime, not executives and advertisers like in america, although I'm sure they still have big influences there. if fans don't like a new season, or something they don't like happens (again, for better or worse) it can absolutely kill any momentum and sink the entire project with the backlash or force them to capitulate. there's still cases where things survive against all odds of fan outcry, or where outside pressure forces a change (I think a lot of Korean fans were upset about the name of a MHA character supposedly referencing unit 731), but generally speaking, creators in Japan ultimately make what consumers want and ask for, which can't be said for western productions
Good lord.
Why the frick does CN pour so much effort into Craig of the fricking Creek anyway? It looks so fricking generic.
as of right now it's their longest-running (original) show and I imagine that internally it does really well in spite of nobody else really giving a flying frick about it.
>I honestly like how good the anime community generally is with gatekeeping and shitting on shit like this. It's so much nicer than the western cartoon community where almost all creators constantly dicksuck their corporate overlords in hopes of staying their graces.
That's the #1 reason I can't follow animation industry people on twitter. None of them are honest about anything and spend all their time fighting imaginary chuds. "I worked hard on it" does not make you immune from all criticism holy frick.
The major downside of the American animation industry being so tiny and incestuous.
Everything is basically decided by the same clique of buttholes who only hire other buttholes who suck their dicks hard enough.
>anime theme cover
I was just about to ask if this is a placeholder name or the real name of the project, but then I saw the little "craig of the creek" logo to the side. So it's just a special craig of the creek episode? a spinoff? who gives a single shit about craig of the creek? I only saw an episode once by accident in a stream I entered too early and it seemed like the most mundane, inoffensive, sterile EEnE-style "kids of the suburbs have adventures in the backyard woods" shit I'd ever seen. Does it have big following in Cinemaphile?
Looks like they're just doing an anime version of the theme song. Sounds cute. The designs are fine, albeit generic. Doubt we'll get any new episodes till like October.
japan, for better or worse, is very sink-or-swim when it comes to their media. if something doesn't sell merch/dvds or attract attention, the plug will be pulled and that's usually it for the project. fans are the backbone of a successful anime, not executives and advertisers like in america, although I'm sure they still have big influences there. if fans don't like a new season, or something they don't like happens (again, for better or worse) it can absolutely kill any momentum and sink the entire project with the backlash or force them to capitulate. there's still cases where things survive against all odds of fan outcry, or where outside pressure forces a change (I think a lot of Korean fans were upset about the name of a MHA character supposedly referencing unit 731), but generally speaking, creators in Japan ultimately make what consumers want and ask for, which can't be said for western productions
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as of right now it's their longest-running (original) show and I imagine that internally it does really well in spite of nobody else really giving a flying frick about it.
Cotc is popular with children, is co that thinks it's too woke for them and will make them satanist and chop off dick
RWBY will never work because the only guy that ever worked on who "got" anime, Monty Oum the creator died years ago. The current showrunners barely get weeb culture.
Yep, remember anons, you might think your artwork sucks but good ol' Christopher Hart here has been grifting poor elementary students out of their parent's money at Scholastic book fairs for like 20 years now.
To me it is obvious it isn't actually trying to look like anime but trying to look 'anime inspired'. There are plenty of artists that can draw in an anime art style and the Korean animators that everything is outsourced to can definitely do it, so the art style is a deliberate choice. Most of the time that we something 'anime' in Western media it isn't deliberately aiming to look exactly like anime and failing just borrowing certain aesthetic elements to convey intent.
Avatar: The Last Airbender was lighting in a fricking bottle and I'm going to spend the rest of my life watching people with no talent duct tape iron rods to their backs, running around in circles trying desperately to make it happen again.
>Generic style >It is just for an OP I guess >Gumball did the same thing but funnier and better looking six years ago >The e-girls aren't even cute
This is just fricking lame. They didn't even exaggerate any of the character's feature to really make them feel like anime characters. Even Billy and Mandy did that pretty well at that in an episode that will be old enough to vote in a couple of months but the CotC crew just slapped the designs onto basic anime teens with little to no alterations.
So, what's is gonna be?
a) Some literal who burger singing an opening that is the musical equivalent of a "how to draw manga" book
b) Some literal who burger pretending it can sing in japanese, a la Mon Laferte and Bad Bunny
c) CN gets the cheapest j-pop artist (or asiatic) available to sing some shitty song of their making (and poison them with cringe in the process)
>the entire show is about playing pretend and exploring the "world" >they didn't capitalize on that and give everyone fantasy designs >instead it's just their regular outfits in a different art style
how in the frick do you miss an opportunity that obvious? they even did it before
I mean, it's your own fault for expecting anything big coming from the CN twitter page. All they ever do is stilted virtue signaling and cringe low-level stunts like this.
It's unconscionable CN went with this art, when there are artists among their ranks who can pull off anime styles convincingly. But given the show, I'm going to guess they didn't pick the artist based on objective ability.
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This is shroommeister's work,he's combining with the media conglomerates to push his homosexualry even further than just Cinemaphile and his 2 active twitter followers.
This is shroommeister's work,he's combining with the media conglomerates to push his homosexualry even further than just Cinemaphile and his 2 active twitter followers.
>homosexualty pozzed Americans can't make good cartoons so they have to infect another country's cartoons with troony bullshit
You deserved 9/11 I hope China genocides you all
In Japan, "anime" is adapted from the French/English word "animation" and shorten. It typically encompanes all forms of animation when used in Japanese.
In English, French, and other languages, "anime" specifically means "Japanese-styled art",
"Anime-styled art" means any non-Japanese art that is stylized like the "common anime" with their big eyes and head, yet with a more proportional body.
In Japan, "anime" is adapted from the French/English word "animation" and shorten. It typically encompanes all forms of animation when used in Japanese.
In English, French, and other languages, "anime" specifically means "Japanese-styled art",
"Anime-styled art" means any non-Japanese art that is stylized like the "common anime" with their big eyes and head, yet with a more proportional body.
Sorry, instead of "Japanese-styled art" I meant to say "art that comes from Japan"
They can claim it's anime in a poor pathetic attempt to appeal to anime fans. But they will fail horribly.
I honestly like how good the anime community generally is with gatekeeping and shitting on shit like this. It's so much nicer than the western cartoon community where almost all creators constantly dicksuck their corporate overlords in hopes of staying their graces.
>anime-azing >not anime-zing
Whoever wrote this should kill themselves to restore their honor from this disgrace.
I don't want to spill too much spaghetti or reveal my power level, but earlier this month I had some meetings with some executives at Anime Expo. They don't want western shit spilling into the anime market. They tried that a while back, and it backfired horribly. Every venture they make from non-Japanese (not even just western, but Korean shit too) is all placed under separate divisions because they don't want things diluting the "brand" of anime and how hard it is defended by fans. I have seen this shit, heard these business strategies and talked to these executives myself.
>Almost every Black person in anime is named Bob
On the one hand I can believe that because of how inexplicably popular Bob Sapp was over there but on the other hand I can't think of any other examples than Makihara.
I was mostly joking but a weird amount of black bit players in anime are named Bob. There was a Bob in Speed Grapher, a Bob in the group of black dudes that show up as canon fodder in the middle of Gantz, a Bob in Sket Dance and I know there are more than a few I am forgetting about since most of them show up and leave a scene or two later.
Listen I think anime is great but Jesus seeing western animators try to copy it and brand it is so pathetic. Why can't we have cartoons animated in something like the bones art style, or zita space girl, or Anyas ghost, or if you want to make it less "cartoony" look at pic related for inspiration, or other art in general that isn't just anime. But this is CN so obviously they're just chasing trends. no one wants to see western "anime"
>Anyas ghost
I get you for that animation style. Imagine not having to be bother too much with details. You can make the animation super gorgeous. However I think that the well has been already poison. These young animators only watch anime. The don't look for other references and inspirations. They just turn on Crunchyroll and HBO Max, and dive into their anime binge and that is it. They don't want western because they never grew up with western influences. Only great Nippon.
>Diversity is important everywhere
Stopped reading there.
Anon, if you're going to troll don't start with this right off the bat, it makes it way too obvious.
>diversity good?!! How dare you!! Must be trollposting!!!
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss
No one should be "political" or "forced" just because of their skin color
Diversity is not at odds with excellence, rather it is part of promoting excellence.
https://www.forbes.com/forbesinsights/innovation_diversity/index.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0007681308000049
You know what I want promote? My work so I don't live on the street fighting homeless people for food. Diversity doesn't pay the bills. Good stories does.
>thinking people want good stories
People will buy anything if you put a pretty enough ribbon on it. Quality and popularity have never been and will never be correlative.
>Diversity is important everywhere, and ironically the US is one of the only places where there seems to be high focus on it in mainstream media, even if that's a result of there being a lot of tension. Queer people exist in other countries, immigrants exist in other countries, and black people absolutely exist in other predominantly white western countries. It's just that in those countries the status quo is so dominant that it's a lot harder to get the ball rolling on any meaningful conversation.
That's a stunning and brave message,anon. Now pack your shit, the studio is downsizing. And need to be out of here in a hour.
>diversity good?!! How dare you!! Must be trollposting!!!
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss
No one should be "political" or "forced" just because of their skin color
Diversity is not at odds with excellence, rather it is part of promoting excellence.
https://www.forbes.com/forbesinsights/innovation_diversity/index.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0007681308000049
Literally what is it about cartoons and comics that attracts these progressive homosexuals to come and post here bros?
I don't blame other boards for calling us Cinemaphilemblr when I see shit like this to be honest.
Art is a fantasy where new-age thinkers always escape to, since the dawn of time. Traditionists just took control of it for a while via the church but it's always the weirdos of a given generation who would have the dedication to do that shit.
>TOONAMI INDEPENDENT CHANNEL
Was already a thing until either by the executive whims of Turner or Ofcom's Mary-Whitehouse-esque censors. Frick the UK Gov's 'independent bodies'.
>American values
Not blind faith believing billionaire government officials and actually criticizing them? >education
The straight up best educational institutions in the world like Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, etc?
Like most other Americans, American blacks are also giant fricking narcissists who lose their shit if they feel like they're being excluded from something.
Frankly I wish my grandparents had never come to this country, it's like an entire country full of non-human morons.
Everyone here is LARPing. Most black dudes are on twitter or instagram or even fricking what's app, not on fricking Cinemaphile where incels seethe at black people 24/7.
Boondocks was an American show that (imo) properly imitated the "anime style". A good amount of people loved it, and it was a majority black show to boot.
For any people who think the complaints about CotC are because of 'muh brown people.'
Cartoons are being raped
CN has had anime on the network since the late 90s/early 00s also
kek
Name a single bigger expectation vs reality disappointment
That Sparkle Cadet is cute
this looks like some shit adult swim would parody in 2005 dafaq
kek
>moeshitgay tweet
I
What?
I don't see the problem.
The designs look fine. What's the issue here?
>The designs look fine.
>When you hit randomize on the character creator
Yes. The designs look fine (outside of maybe that weird pink haired guy on the left?)
If the 'issues' are so obvious then maybe you can take 20 seconds to actually explain them, hm?
The designs look like the typical generic shit you see from white people trying to make "anime" designs.
Which is to say, they're bad, and you only think they're fine because you're probably in your 30s, and thus hilariously out-of-touch.
All you said is that they're "generic".
That doesn't explain why they're bad. Maybe it's "generic" because it works?
That's why anime (and light novels) have 14 different isekai every season.
>Maybe it's "generic" because it works?
Yea, like I said, you are out-of-touch as frick.
How old are you?
probably older than you, zoomer
Yes, that's my point.
You are extremely out of touch, stick to talking about cartoons, boomer.
Anime designs are anime designs and haven't really changed in decades beyond animation in general becoming HD and cleaner animated and done by computer. What exactly is an in touch anime design these days then?
Nah, anon has a point.
I don't know how they do it, but modern anime does avoid same face syndrome somehow. It's not as blatant as it used to be. No same face on a bell head: your classic Sailormoon-style anime.
Yeah, they do
>BUT ITS FROM A SHOW I DONT LIKE
So what? They still look fine.
Nothing but monkeys and white devils present.
>called anime
>not a single asian
kek
Anime is french for animation.
No, that's 'dessin animé'
there's plenty of animes whose main cast doesn't have any asians
Why are 5 out 9 characters black ? I get the idea of representation, but blacks are 12% of the US population, not 55%.
Sorry, but everything has to be catered towards blacks as reparations from things that happened over half a century ago. If you say otherwise, you're a bigot.
It's the representation that they b***hed about and finally got.
You know this comic was written by a Mexican right
And? They wanted more representation and they got it.
A israeli mexican, he is even named Yehudi
>but blacks are 12% of the US population, not 55%.
Give it a few years. Especially after Roe v Wade overturn.
Because the main characters are a suburban black family.
this the funniest thing I've read on here in awhile. do you watch shit like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and say "wtf why are there so many black people in this, they're only 12% of the US population"? lmao
yes, but it's okay because carlton is honorary white that loves tom jones
Plenty of Black sitcoms back then. Nobody cared and enjoyed them. But now it's filled with messages and totally without humor.
You appeal to more demographics, you get more customers. Cry me a river.
Nah, I'm black and I'd still rather watch anime over this, as would 90% of black male children.
Even an anime that had 0 black people is preferable to modern cartoons, diversity and inclusion is not a good replacement for interesting stories, good animation, actual action, and character designs that don't make me want to puke.
Ah yes black people are rare in Japan and unrealistic
But magic and demons and superpowers is totally real and common
Reddit is that way homosexual.
I don't care about what's realistic or not, I just don't give a shit about whether or not a show has black people in it or not, and I'm not going to watch some shitty, boring cartoon over an anime I enjoy just because the former has black people in it, and the inclusion of black people in an anime wouldn't make me enjoy it any more than I already do.
Man, I didn't notice how bad of a run-on sentence this was when I typed it.
Remember Neo Yokio? Neither do I....
Honestly I don't even consider that an anime, I'm just glad that Will Smith torpedoed his career so I won't have to have his annoying homosexual son shoved down my throat anymore.
The difference is that people like superpowers.
Bringing lots of magic, demons and superpowers to everyday Japan is an exciting fantasy, bringing lots of black people to Japan is a dystopia.
Also there's this thing called 'suspension of disbelief', which is where in order to make the audience buy into a fantasy concept, it needs to make some sort of sense.
Like if you have a medieval based fantasy world with magic, then having airplanes and machine guns will break the immersion. Showing Japan with lots of black people without any logical explanation will do the same.
Uh huh dragons and demons and magic is japenese and deserve presentation but black people don’t eh?
Yup I do that’s what the audience are for
If the industry doesn’t listen to the audeince then they’re not good
Doesn’t matter what they’re and apparently you think that the whole world is either “American” or “foreign”
Your victim complex is really showing
>Uh huh dragons and demons and magic is japenese and deserve presentation but black people don’t eh?
Yes homosexual, even your fellow redditors agree https://reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/k5udyb/your_fantasy_world_has_dragons_but_not/
Cry about it
>https://reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/k5udyb/your_fantasy_world_has_dragons_but_not/
Kek they probably couldn’t handle seeing killer bee near their east asian tradwife dream hinata hyuga.
Raikagegay?
>Kumogakure's Law
I'm trying to parse this gibberish, but to no avail
Then you have low reading comprehension
It's Americanspeak, don't bother trying to understand it.
He'll tire himself out then go OD on opiates.
>If the industry doesn’t listen to the audeince then they’re not good
>americans are this deluded that they think they're the primary audience for manga/anime
I'll make it simple for you
the japanese don't like black people. they have never liked black people, they never will like black people, and trying to guilt-trip them into adding more nigs into their own animation in their own country with barely any black people because "muh diversity" pitches by braindead americans will not change that fact
adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash because, believe it or not, the japanese don't want to see black people in their animation (along with a number of other foreign countries)
cope and seethe about that being "unfair" all you want, this is the truth and it will not change anytime soon
also manga sells in fricking spades anyways moron, their audience seems pretty satisfied as is
>adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash because, believe it or not, the japanese don't want to see black people in their animation
Wrong
Naruto has a whole village of black people.
Jojo has a few black characters. Part 2 features a young black kid named Smokey Brown, though he's more of a support character. In part 3 Avdol is black and one of the Stardust Crusaders. Enrico Pucci, the main villain of part 6, is also black.
In Hajime no Ippo one of Ippo's first fights is with a black American boxer named Jason Ozuma. There's also Takamura's fight with an American man named Bryan Hawk. I'm not sure if Hawk is supposed to be black though. He's dark skinned but he has straight blonde hair and blue eyes.
Akagi Takenori from Slam Dunk very much looks like he's black or half-black, but there's never any reference to his heritage and his sister is a small Japanese girl.
Grappler Baki also prominently features a black character named Mohammad Alai and his son, who has the same name.
Captain Tsubasa had a lot of black characters. Granted they were all based of real soccer players, but they were all drawn normally and not with exaggerated /racist features.
>Naruto has a whole village of black people.
Naruto hasn't been relevant in Japan since like 2010. Boruto can't even break 1 million units sold nowadays.
>Enrico Pucci, the main villain of part 6, is also black.
Pucci is Italian, if he was black you Americans would have had a black guy voice him and not an Asian.
And some American blacks didn't even fricking like Killer Bee. They were worried he'd start rapping about fricking McChicken.
Yeah but on the other hand anyone that puts Sasuke in his place is based which makes the entire cloud village the best characters.
>American blacks didn't even fricking like Killer Bee. They were worried he'd start rapping about fricking McChicken.
Not really, they like it
Are you black?
If not, then please don't try to speak for me.
That shit was corny, though I had already checked out of Naruto by that point since it just turned into a shitty version of DBZ mixed with a shitty version of Jojo with everyone summoning their planetbusting stands.
NTA but I am and I think cloud village is okay. There's a reason Raikage Gold was the highest rating for episodes in the toonami threads back in the day; those characters tended to make shitty arcs better by being competent and able to say "hey Naruto your gay obsession with this terrorist is fricking stupid so we're gonna lariat him to death"
Cloud village was the best of a bad series.
>in the toonami threads
My dude, Cinemaphile has dogshit taste in literally everything, that doesn't mean much.
Naruto went to shit with Shipudden.
>Naruto went to shit with Shipudden.
I am not disagreeing.
I prefer One Piece anyway
I don't know anybody who actually liked Killer Bee. Now his brother? The Raikage who fricking powerbombed Sasugay? People loved him.
>Not really, they like it
No, I absolutely hated Killer Bee at first but then he turned out to be more than a caricature
He smoked Sasuke.
For that, he’ll always be a Chad to me
>Pucci is Italian, if he was black you Americans would have had a black guy voice him and not an Asian.
The race of a character and the race of the VA don't always match up. Phil LaMarr is voices Samurai Jack and LaMarr is nowhere near Asian last time I checked. Same thing with Toby Huss voicing Kahn Souphanousinphone.
>The race of a character and the race of the VA don't always match up.
Unless it's a black character.
Then going Americans make sure to cast a black person.
Phil LaMarr gets away with it because he's black and Toby Huss got away with it because KotH ended in 2009, you can bet your ass that he won't be playing Kahn in the reboot.
>Naruto has a whole village of black people.
what?
This is true. Kumogakure, The Hidden Cloud Village in the Land of Lightning is populated by a fantasy race of dark skinned people with colorful hair. They are meant to look 'black' instead of just 'tanned anime Asian' though this is more apparent in the manga. The mangaka put them in because he thought it would be cool and not as a matter of mandate which makes all the difference.
>the authors put like one black people in their animation, that means the readers want more black people and they wouldn't complain if it happened!
how delusional can you be lmao
you really think that means japanese readers would be okay with black people appearing consistently in a large majority of manga? nobody is arguing that one black person will kill sales, adding more for the sake of "diversity" will absolutely do so
there's a reason the majority of the examples you listed are a minor character(s), a one-time villain, ambiguously black to the point where not even you're fricking sure yourself, or based on actual people so they have an excuse to be black
the japanese see one or two black people and they don't care, that doesn't mean that they WANT to see more black people. only americans care about this forced "diversity" bullshit, as if diversity is inherently a good thing
>moving goalpost
Incredible. Thats some real fragility right there
>only americans care
No we don't, the only ones who do are brainwashed from the RIDICULOUS demoralization and propaganda the U.S. has had for over 50 years at this point. And the people who say they like it rarely actually watch or read it.
>Enrico Pucci
Pucci isn't black he's a very dark skinned Italian.
Ironically, his entire origin story revolves around blackness
>most popular show in Japan at the moment has an important black character in it
>>most popular show in Japan at the moment
What show is this?
Lycoris Recoil
Anon, no one's watching Lycoris Recoil for the black dude.
They're only interested in the cute girls, he has pretty much zero impact unless you're American since mutts are obsessed with blacks.
and? He's still an important character and no ones complain about him.
Because no one cares that he exists since he's basically a non-character with no screen time.
But you says adding more "diversity" will just cause them to lose domestic sales and receive backlash, no?
I didn't, but I'll gladly support that sentiment.
One black background character is not diversity, and chances are the native audience would prefer if he wasn't there, since that takes screentime away from the cute girls.
>One black background character is not diversity, and chances are the native audience would prefer if he wasn't there, since that takes screentime away from the cute girls.
Kek that some mental gymnastics
Moving goalpost already or different anon?
First I'm hearing of it. What's this guy's name? I'll add him to my chart of black anime characters
gr8 b8 m8
But the most popular anime in Japan right now is Isekai Ojiisan.
>Twitter posts
>Call of the Night near the top, a show that can't even break the top 20 in Japan
Why are all Americans always such liars?
Yes, that further proves my point.
The most popular anime in Japan right now is Isekai Ojiisan.
and the second most popular is Lycoris Recoil
But not the most popular, like you tried to state.
So I ask again, why are Americans such liars?
Ok fine I was wrong about it being number one. Still doesn't change the fact that it's insanely popular with japs
impact/significance to the characters and plot>screen time
>it's insanely popular with japs
Nah, insanely popular would be Demon Slayer, which had been broadcast in 19% of homes in Japan.
Lycoris is just mildly popular by original anime standards, and it can't evnlen beat the obligatory big-name isekai of the season.
>impact/significance to the characters and plot>screen time
Now THAT is a cope.
It's step 2 of 3
>Character X isn't black
>Okay character X is black but they're not important
>Okay they're important but the show isn't popular
Anons will do whatever's necessary to pretend everyone hates black people as much as they do.
X isn't black
I don't think anyone ever said that about the character you posted.
And again, he gets like 5 minutes of screentime.
This is a really weird cope and I say that as someone who isn't even white.
>I don't think anyone ever said that about the character you posted.
I'm referring to anons earlier in the thread.
Anon the dick is my own. I can't bend that far.
>I'm referring to anons earlier in the thread.
Well they're not wrong.
Look, I get it, I'm also black, so I get how insecure some of us can get, but you gotta tone this shit down because I get 2nd hand embarrassment whenever I see some black dude online trying to argue that actually everyone loves black people.
It SCREAMS "I have never had to live around someone who was not American."
why do you hate yourself so much
I don't, I'm just Jamaican.
American blacks are extremely tiring to be around.
>American blacks are extremely tiring to be around
Try haitians, here in latam we got a wave of refugees after that shithole crashed for the Nth time.
Haitians aren't human as far as I'm concerned, they don't count.
American blacks can at least be recognized as something human even if they're hilariously ignorant and annoying as frick (like many Americans), Haitians are closer to a virus than a human.
I'm Mexican but I understand where you're coming from
Yeah I get that. To be clear I think that I think that the reason you see black people in anime is because it's one of the three phenotypes they use to denote "foreigner"
1. Blonde haired, blue eyed chads and stacy's with huge noses and boobs
2. Chinese girl with two hair buns that talks like a moronic drunk baby
3. homies.
Japanese people are largely indifferent. Or more accurately, I think they hate all non Japanese gaijin equally and aren't making any special distinction towards hating black people especially more than they do anyone else.
It's just that that lack of specific hatred is considered an improvement or an agenda by some. Cinemaphile spends so much of its time seething about black character existing the idea that a country's media can just have them be in a show tends to confuse people on both sides of the argument.
>Japanese people are largely indifferent. Or more accurately, I think they hate all non Japanese gaijin equally and aren't making any special distinction towards hating black people especially more than they do anyone else.
To be fair, that applies to many people.
Frankly, most people don't like foreigners, since foreigners tend to be tourists, and tourists tend to be annoying c**ts, ESPECIALLY the American ones, my fricking god.
It just gets weird when you have that one autistic gay fat black dude spamming Cinemaphile for the last half a decade, that kind of shit does more harm than good and just makes it more likely that people are going to hate you since whenever they're exposed to black people it's literally always a negative interaction.
It's the same reason so many people fricking despise Americans, most Americans do a shit job of presenting themselves as anything other than an annoying ignorant fricknugget, and that tends to make you very hateable.
You need to get that black dick out of your mouth before you start talking.
>Still doesn't change the fact that it's insanely popular with japs
Dude, the difference between the top 5 is not huge, and this is the summer season, there's very little quality competition since this is not where networks schedule the stuff they think will draw the most viewers given that viewership drops massively during summer.
Damn, there's only trash this season.
>twitter metrics
he said popular shows
He is not even the main protagonist. He is about as relevant as Duke from Batman.
>He is about as relevant as Duke from Batman.
That'd probably be a much stronger point if Cinemaphile wasn't constantly seething about Duke too.
He's an important supporting character
He's really not, most people wouldn't even remember his name.
Hell, you probably don't remember his name without looking it up.
>He's really not, most people wouldn't even remember his name.
This is literally just you assuming things he's literally the sensei of the main girl and is helping out.
And he gets like 5 minutes of screentime before being relegated to a background character.
We call those token blacks, anon. Those have been a thing in Western and Eastern media for decades.
Actually it's not the most popular show in Japan at the moment, but close enough.
Having said that, this character is nothing but a cardboard helper, 99.9% of the screentime are between the two mc girls, even their new sidekick cardboard 'super hacker girl' has had more screentime.
It's a decent show storywise with excellent production values for an original summer anime, even though it's very ehh... 'inspired' by Gunslinger Girl.
The most popular animu in Japan right now is Spy x Family you idiot.
>the japanese don't like black people. they have never liked black people, they never will like black people
According to who? You never be Japanese
>Greasy American who has never set foot in Japan trying to claim he knows what the Japanese people like and dislike.
>the japanese don't like black people.
They are literally shitskins though, they are the closest to blacks out there
The creator of Cowboy Beebop intentionally made his cast diverse for the sake of having more representation.
This might be shocking to you but majority of the world outside of America don't give a shit about black people. Even in America where they are tolerated, majority of the races in America hate them as well.
>source: just believe me bro
>Like if you have a medieval based fantasy world with magic, then having airplanes and machine guns will break the immersion. Showing Japan with lots of black people without any logical explanation will do the same
That's a crappy analogy. Most of the fantasy animes take place in a made up world (not only based on medieval european, japan, etc). There is no reason why black people wouldn't exist.
Not saying they don't exist in usch a world, but they would not exist except in extremely limited circumstances in places based upon medieval europe or japan.
Most fantasy involving magic goes to great lenghts to explain the logic behind said magic to sell the concept, there's no logic to a huge mix of caucasian, asian and black people in the same area in a fantasy setting, trying to model such a setting after the ethnical hyper mix of California or New York makes no sense.
The reason we have such distinct melanin levels and other differences in physical traits across the world is due to sun exposure and homogenous gene pools over long periods of time.
>there's no logic to a huge mix of caucasian, asian and black people in the same area in a fantasy setting
And someone couldn't just make up logic for that?
"B-but why would they?"
Because they fricking can.
>And someone couldn't just make up logic for that?
They could, but it would take everyone who's not an American out of the setting immediately.
This is why American media has no global appeal outside of dumb CGI explosion theme parks and ADHD CGI cartoons that people take their kids to to keep them entertained for 2 hours.
Scorsese was 100% right about modern American "cinema."
>but it would take everyone who's not an American out of the setting immediately.
You know black people exist in places that aren't in America, right? And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
>the Japanese don't like black people
Plenty of Japanese manga authors seem to like blacks well enough to include them in their works
You can say the same shit about Japanese people not liking the Chinese, but you'll still find plenty of Chinese people in manga/anime.
Shit, there are more blacks in manga/anime than fricking Koreans and Korea is right next door!
I can't wait until the country collapses so you die of starvation.
anime is mainstream now. Dweebweed should find another cliff to hang from
>You know black people exist in places that aren't in America, right? And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
Sorry anon. You can't guilt a country to make a bento box the way you like it. Now shut up and go read your awful indie WE WUZ KANGZ comic.
>And that non-Americans, particularly Japanese people, aren't going to be shocked by seeing a few black people in their media?
God you are so American it hurts.
There are maybe 20k black people in all of Japan, including the American ones.
You people are worse than the Chinese when it comes to your cultural imperialism, and you wonder why no one likes you.
Just remind you, these people fine with brown and tan people (human, elf, etc) but not with black & dark-skinned people
Fantasy worlds are based on the real world
Cope
If the fantasy setting wasn't based in European mythos most of the time then you'd have a point, but it isn't, therefore having half your cast be black and brown just doesn't make sense.
It goes both ways too, so a fantasy setting based in chinese mythos would also be weird to look at if half to the population is white.
This is what gets me. Magical girls and super strong aliens are ok, but the moment a different race (still human) shows up and isn’t a weird caricature (looking at you, Mr. Popo) it becomes “too forced” and “unrealistic”
Oh yeah, classic "argument". However, that is a false equivalence.
Is already debunked by this anon
Ah yes, because in medieval times societies were know to be multicultural, and people didn't live in their own cities for their whole lives.
>picrel
Nothing impossible
Black person here. I don't want this and never asked for this and please stop speaking for me
>Black person here
Larp
>He doesn’t know
They live in a mostly black neighborhood and the family is black. Come on now, anon.
Simp mode activated
That anime and almost all shonen have black people. You need to watch shows for toddlers and little girls to not see black people in.amime.
There are no black people in My Hero Acadmica and Demon Slayer.
>There are no black people in My Hero Acadmica
Name a single black character in My Hero Acadmica.
Rock Lock
>Ken Takagi
Not black
>dark skin, nappy black hair, pronounced lips, and has the typical anime "westerner nose"
>not black
>Is responsible for his wife and daughter
Clearly not black.
>write shitty prolonged inconsequential arc
>throw in mutt baby for no reason
It's like Hori wanted to tank his own manga
Mirko.
Mirko was never black. I honestly don't know why you people assume she is.
I have no problem with this.
Mirko isn't black American-kun.
It is common to have tanned characters like her or nagatoro, they are in fact not black.
This is a black character
All dark skinned characters African American. That's the way I see it and if you don't conform to my views you are racist
NOOOOOO I WAS KIDDING, MODS PLS DON'T BAN ME
I'm confident that she's not from Japan, anyways these race discussion and debates are silly and I'm glad that Cinemaphile can never have these thread. Sadly /vp/ is flooded with /misc/ race discussion. They even claim that a character is Latin American and Polynesian with no evidence.
It's more obvious in the Vigilantes spinoff where you see her in high school but Mirko is meant to be designed in the gyaru archetype and really is just tan.
Rock Lock's still counts though.
Do you know what a Gyaru is? Are you aware that this was a somewhat popular alternative fashion trend 30 years ago? I'm no sure how you think that Gyaru = a bunny hero.
Mirko ain't black. You need to accept reality and the fact that the world outside of America doesn't revolve around your demographic.
I never said she was black, she's just not Japanese.
You are even more moronic if you truly believe that.
The fact that she's a bunny isn't relevant since the setting is full of mutants. She dresses like a gal in high school
>30 years ago
Dude, romcom nowadays are full of gyaru characters, frick are you talking about?
God I love gyaru so much.
>I'm confident that she's not from Japan,
That's because you're a fricking moron.
i will never understand twitter autists seeing a character named Nagatoro Hayase and saying ''yup, niggress''
This is Bob Makihara. Tell me how he's actually Japanese.
The main characters aren’t white either
Is that supposed to be a gotcha?
Only actual white, unironic supremacists insist that all anime characters are white.
See
>and almost all shonen have black people.
It's actually a small minority, and I say that as someone who's black.
I don't want American race autism in my anime, thanks, make all the characters Japanese for all I care.
You homosexuals already ruined western animation beyond repair with your autism.
You don't speak for all black people, and it's sad that you hate yourself so much that you're willing to side with chuds, you know, the ones that actually hate your guts and want you dead?
Not him, but I speak for all black people, and we will never accept your troony homosexualry.
>and it's sad that you hate yourself so much that you're willing to side with chuds
I'd rather side with chuds than annoying gay white people any day of the week.
They hate me for being black, you hate me for not being a homosexual.
the both hate you. why side with either?
To get rid of the one that's more annoying of course.
Which, as it stands currently, is homosexuals.
and how are you getting rid of them?
Making them feel unwelcome of course.
As soon as they stop being annoying I'll gladly stop, but I don't see that happening any time soon, so...
>Making them feel unwelcome of course.
Yeah because that worked out so well for Blacks in the South. The South made Blacks feel so unwelcomed that the majority of the Black population is STILL in the South. Face it, you'll never get rid of them.
Guess we'll have to ally with the Latinos and get rid of them that way then.
I'd be fine with corralling all the gays in white neighborhoods and building a big wall (and firewall of course) around them all so the rest of us don't have to deal with them.
They deserve each other after all.
so once youve done that, are you gonna take it to the racist white people that have no problem laughing at your death, right? not saying gays dont either, but your arent gonna stop after being done with the gays, right
Sure, so long as my first mission is complete.
I don't like to leave things half done.
We all know America is on its last legs at this point so it's only a matter of time.
probably because one side has way more influence in the forms of media created and is actively making the things I once enjoyed worse? because one side isn't accusing me of being a piece of shit if I don't play into the delusion of trannies? probably because one side won't immediately pretend to like you but then immediately disown you the second you say something that goes against their narrative?
just because I'm black doesn't mean I'll blindly support anything made by those homosexuals. I'll just take the racists, they're infinitely less annoying than homosexuals ever have been and they don't pretend to like me
what is there to take to them? they don't have an entire month pandering to them nor are they constantly begging for recognition, they're not pushed as being the "right choice," like homosexuals are
>inb4 "but you have black history month-"
I genuinely do not give a shit about that either
>because one side isn't accusing me of being a piece of shit if I don't play into the delusion of trannies?
This is a big one for me.
I would have no issue with the LGBTBRRRAAAPPPPs if they weren't so annoying about all this moronic gender autism.
But they are, so I want them to frick off, preferably of their own will, but barring that, via force.
And I would gladly ignore racists to get rid of them because nowadays racists are already widely considered bad people by society, unless of course they put on a dress and insist they're the opposite sex.
....how old are you?
>....how old are you?
Old enough to remember when every single modern leftist policy was "le slippery slope fallacy that will never happen".
ok, why are you pretending to be black on the internet
nice job proving you're a piece of shit
I mean queers always have this compulsive need to make their homosexualry in the spotlight of most situations because they're moronic narcists to begins with. Like you have to have brain problems to be homosexual.
Racists' mostly think back on the last time a stereotype made the new for some graphic crime and they believe it affirms their belief, but will make friend with a person of said stereotype, just believing their friend is the exception not the rule
Seriously have a nice day
I bet you scream Black person when you see a black person walk across the street
No they don't moron
>You need to watch shows for toddlers and little girls to not see black people in.amime.
You reminded me this exists.
>That anime and almost all shonen have black people.
Are you moronic ?
99.9% of shonen anime/manga has zero black characters.
And that's a good thing.
>can’t have a perfect world with blacks
Lmao.
>Anime is supposed to be a perfect world to escape to
>picrel
White weebs are garbage human beings. Spread the word.
This ginger Shinji ass lookin mother fricker
Timmy from South Park?
They're all Shinjis, it's obviously aping NGE
>Shinji
>Ginger
>Shinjer/Shinger
once again western artists are copying anime without understanding any of the actual structure, design tastes, or appeal to popular, successful anime. at least in the past anime parodies tended to be affectionate, this is just the equivalent to a family guy cutaway referencing japan
this doesn't even look like an anime it looks like a crummy early 2000s action cartoon from Kids WB. I swear I've seen this exact character in the background of a Chaotic episode
>this is just the equivalent to a family guy cutaway referencing japan
a family guy cutaway would be a Speed Racer/Voltron parody and you know it
FusionFall designs look way better than this
some fusionfall art (and most models) really struck out but the good ones still oddly hold up. they look out of place, but they're definitely appealing in their own right and appeals to my inner, edgy teenager.
I swear they've done a joke like that before but my point is that there's just no love in it. people in modern industry seem to both love anime but have this abject disdain for nearly every aspect of it.
God I miss the FusionFall era.
helps that fusion fall was designed by actual asians and not AZNs who grew up in mutthole
>short buzz haired in the show
>give him nappy hair in this cover
Why
I like the hooded homie the most, the rest looks like shit
Everyone looks somewhat "fine" except kelsey, which looks awfully like a man (more than normal).
This is what the final spasm of a dead network looks like.
Literally pic related
I was expecting worse, but the fact that this book was authored by Tadashi Ozawa, who has experience in the industry working for Studio Ghibli with part of his job actually being to train new animators, this doesn't seem like that bad a resource to draw from.
I mean yeah the art is technically fine but it looks like they asked a team from 2005 to design this. It might be the point though, that it looks like "baby's first attempt at anime".
how to draw manga looking ass characters.
Is it just me or does every anime reference done by a western cartoon feel like it's through clenched teeth? I got that same feeling back in the day when cartoonists were obviously seething at shit like Pokemon being so popular.
>Is it just me or does every anime reference done by a western cartoon feel like it's through clenched teeth?
Nah, I get that feeling too.
Probably because you can see what a lot of animators and industry people say online and tell what they seethe at, a lot of which is often present in anime.
Couldn't make them look like kid huh
Most look fine except Craig who looks like a member of the Cosby Kids if Fat Albert got an anime adaptation.
They're fine, the only problem with it is that they're just extremely bland and with the style being taken from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Even then they appear to be "aged" up and made to look serious despite them being still kids.
These character concepts don't pop. They are just meh. Nothing more.
wow these suck.
To be fair, if you were someone who thought that designs for Steven Universe and CotC were fine, then I'm not surprised you think like this.
>Comparing Steven Universe to CotC
Steven Universe has great character designs. The pilot designs were good and the series designs were good. Not liking the art style itself is one thing, and the off-model storyboarding was ridiculous, but the designs are very good.
Anon, just because you wanted to frick them doesn't mean they were good designs.
It just means you have shit taste.
>Steven Universe has great character designs.
Pearl has the ugliest corvax nose I've ever and Amethyst's lips legitimately look like a dog's butthole.
Not really all that great if you ask me, especially when you begin comparing it to other shows from that same network.
>Making/Drawing an anime out of some shitty calarts cartoon show full of ugly Black folk
Who thought this was a good idea?
>20 years later
>the USA still consider anime to be a one-style gimmic only good to be laughed at and meme'd for its tropes
>konishiway, fellow younglings-sain
Why does JP look like he has cancer??
This looks like one of those low-tier "How to Draw Anime" books drawn by a white person.
Their faces really look like they are from Evangelion
You morons are blind, holy shit. No wonder America is having a cultural decline if these designs are "fine"
You sound like you're implying "cultural decline" is some natural thing, and not intentionally being inflicted on us by marxists
>You sound like you're implying "cultural decline" is some natural thing,
It is when people intentionally worship ugliness as a way to be "valid" and intentionally sabotaging your own industry for cheap labor and money.
Morale != Morals
It's got brown people in it and Cinemaphile is full of people that think anime doesn't have brown people and that all the characters are ackshully white.
Imagine being this gay. Like, not normal gay, but like stuffing 5 dicks into their mouth at a time, defending marvel cinematic universe, and chanting "BLM" levels of gay.
Thats you homosexual queers.
They don't look fine, that's the issue.
CotC's character designs already look moronic as frick in its own show, trying to adapt them into an "anime" style just makes them looks even worse.
Did they actually hire a Japanese animator/director on this?
They can claim it's anime in a poor pathetic attempt to appeal to anime fans. But they will fail horribly.
I honestly like how good the anime community generally is with gatekeeping and shitting on shit like this. It's so much nicer than the western cartoon community where almost all creators constantly dicksuck their corporate overlords in hopes of staying their graces.
japan, for better or worse, is very sink-or-swim when it comes to their media. if something doesn't sell merch/dvds or attract attention, the plug will be pulled and that's usually it for the project. fans are the backbone of a successful anime, not executives and advertisers like in america, although I'm sure they still have big influences there. if fans don't like a new season, or something they don't like happens (again, for better or worse) it can absolutely kill any momentum and sink the entire project with the backlash or force them to capitulate. there's still cases where things survive against all odds of fan outcry, or where outside pressure forces a change (I think a lot of Korean fans were upset about the name of a MHA character supposedly referencing unit 731), but generally speaking, creators in Japan ultimately make what consumers want and ask for, which can't be said for western productions
as of right now it's their longest-running (original) show and I imagine that internally it does really well in spite of nobody else really giving a flying frick about it.
>I honestly like how good the anime community generally is with gatekeeping and shitting on shit like this. It's so much nicer than the western cartoon community where almost all creators constantly dicksuck their corporate overlords in hopes of staying their graces.
That's the #1 reason I can't follow animation industry people on twitter. None of them are honest about anything and spend all their time fighting imaginary chuds. "I worked hard on it" does not make you immune from all criticism holy frick.
The major downside of the American animation industry being so tiny and incestuous.
Everything is basically decided by the same clique of buttholes who only hire other buttholes who suck their dicks hard enough.
Holy kek, what in the name of frick is this shit ?
Congratulations to Cartoon Network for creating something that will bring American cartoon fans and anime fans together in their hatred towards it.
But anon, they already own RWBY
RWBY at least appeals to coomers, but I can't fathom anyone feeling lust over those Craignime designs.
>anime theme cover
I was just about to ask if this is a placeholder name or the real name of the project, but then I saw the little "craig of the creek" logo to the side. So it's just a special craig of the creek episode? a spinoff? who gives a single shit about craig of the creek? I only saw an episode once by accident in a stream I entered too early and it seemed like the most mundane, inoffensive, sterile EEnE-style "kids of the suburbs have adventures in the backyard woods" shit I'd ever seen. Does it have big following in Cinemaphile?
>Cartoon Network realising they are dying
>Hey, anime is super popular now, we really need to tap into this
>This is what they came up with
>Cartoon Network realising they are dying
Just like all of WB.
Is that fricking it? Dime-a-dozen anime style art I can find literally anywhere on the internet.
Looks like they're just doing an anime version of the theme song. Sounds cute. The designs are fine, albeit generic. Doubt we'll get any new episodes till like October.
You can easily tell crunchyroll made this
Good lord.
Why the frick does CN pour so much effort into Craig of the fricking Creek anyway? It looks so fricking generic.
Cotc is popular with children, is co that thinks it's too woke for them and will make them satanist and chop off dick
Shoulda given Craig a bigger head.
>SOMETHING AMAZING IS HAPPENING GET HYPED
>anime meme opening for already existing show
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>parrot
>swords
>explosion
Oh cool, One piece is coming to CN dubbed
Oh....
Before I saw the Cartoon Network logo I thought it was Legend of the Three Caballeros
lol and people still wonder why WB keeps shoving RWBY everywhere
RWBY will never work because the only guy that ever worked on who "got" anime, Monty Oum the creator died years ago. The current showrunners barely get weeb culture.
Wow, it's fricking nothing.
>IT'S HAPPENING
Pretty much sums it up
these look like characters from those "how to draw anime" books at the bargain bin.
Yep, remember anons, you might think your artwork sucks but good ol' Christopher Hart here has been grifting poor elementary students out of their parent's money at Scholastic book fairs for like 20 years now.
It sucks that style of books made genuinely nice reference books look like cancer from the cover.
>Christopher hart
I remember watching a lot of his videos when I was younger
To me it is obvious it isn't actually trying to look like anime but trying to look 'anime inspired'. There are plenty of artists that can draw in an anime art style and the Korean animators that everything is outsourced to can definitely do it, so the art style is a deliberate choice. Most of the time that we something 'anime' in Western media it isn't deliberately aiming to look exactly like anime and failing just borrowing certain aesthetic elements to convey intent.
Avatar: The Last Airbender was lighting in a fricking bottle and I'm going to spend the rest of my life watching people with no talent duct tape iron rods to their backs, running around in circles trying desperately to make it happen again.
they made maya too short
Get to work /copol/!
>Generic style
>It is just for an OP I guess
>Gumball did the same thing but funnier and better looking six years ago
>The e-girls aren't even cute
This is just fricking lame. They didn't even exaggerate any of the character's feature to really make them feel like anime characters. Even Billy and Mandy did that pretty well at that in an episode that will be old enough to vote in a couple of months but the CotC crew just slapped the designs onto basic anime teens with little to no alterations.
I would be alright with this if it were just fanart on Deviantart.
>Anime Theme Cover
Is this going to be a mediocre music video?
So, what's is gonna be?
a) Some literal who burger singing an opening that is the musical equivalent of a "how to draw manga" book
b) Some literal who burger pretending it can sing in japanese, a la Mon Laferte and Bad Bunny
c) CN gets the cheapest j-pop artist (or asiatic) available to sing some shitty song of their making (and poison them with cringe in the process)
>the entire show is about playing pretend and exploring the "world"
>they didn't capitalize on that and give everyone fantasy designs
>instead it's just their regular outfits in a different art style
how in the frick do you miss an opportunity that obvious? they even did it before
You can even see that they gave Kelsey and Craig an actual sword and staff instead of what they usually have.
I don't mind the designs in and of themselves, it's just that they coulda done so much more.
Bruh.........look at this shit
i hate that they still have those moronic ass lips
oh they do god damn
I mean, it's your own fault for expecting anything big coming from the CN twitter page. All they ever do is stilted virtue signaling and cringe low-level stunts like this.
Gross i think id rather stick with Funimation or Crunchyroll for weeb shit
Odds are this'll probably from one of the Ninja Kid's POV.
What do Americans worship?
themselves.
High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's in everything they drink.
car centric urban design
The victimized.
So it's just like that South Park parody. Or any other anime parody a western cartoon has ever done.
We all agree only french can make good western anime, not american pig.
Agreement
>We all agree only french can make good western anime
Avatar exists still
they shouldve made this with all black casts. if it was a genuine ghetto ass fantasy then id give it a try.
this shit is really half assed trash
Damn those homies just posted cringe.
>Blacks are 13% of the population
>Forced into 90% of all media
It's unconscionable CN went with this art, when there are artists among their ranks who can pull off anime styles convincingly. But given the show, I'm going to guess they didn't pick the artist based on objective ability.
The word "anime" is so fricking cursed. I like Craig of the Creek, but man.
>gays, women and minorities
is that coco
canon
>anime-AZING
AAAAAAHHHHHHH THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE
WHAT IS THIS?
WHAT IS THHIIISSSSSS???
GRAB THE PITCHFORKS WE ARE BURNING CN TONIGHT
TONIGHT
TONIGHT
LIT THE PITCHFORKS ON FIRE
I NEED CN EXECUTIVES' HEADS ON A PIKES.
I NEED EVERYONE'S HEADS ON A PIKE.
OHNONONONONO
Please tell me its fake
Excelsior!
No,is just powerpuff girls z
PPGZ is unironically better than half the shit they've been pumping out the past decade including the PPG reboot
>anime-azing
>not just anime-zing
Am i missing something? Are they moronic?
>Are they moronic?
Yes,
what is a typo?
>Yet another thread with a fake tweet by shroommeister
You truly outdo your own homosexualry everytime
Shroommeister did this
This is shroommeister's work,he's combining with the media conglomerates to push his homosexualry even further than just Cinemaphile and his 2 active twitter followers.
>homosexualty pozzed Americans can't make good cartoons so they have to infect another country's cartoons with troony bullshit
You deserved 9/11 I hope China genocides you all
miga memes are so accurate.
I say you touching litte boys outside my house just yesterday
I hate the term "Anime" like what the frick even dose that mean ?
In Japan, "anime" is adapted from the French/English word "animation" and shorten. It typically encompanes all forms of animation when used in Japanese.
In English, French, and other languages, "anime" specifically means "Japanese-styled art",
"Anime-styled art" means any non-Japanese art that is stylized like the "common anime" with their big eyes and head, yet with a more proportional body.
>in the East, anime is derived from the new world
>in the West, anime is a product of the old world
Sorry, instead of "Japanese-styled art" I meant to say "art that comes from Japan"
"Cartoon" and "comic" are formal constructs.
"Anime" and "manga" are structural constructs.
You will never be Japanese
I don't want to spill too much spaghetti or reveal my power level, but earlier this month I had some meetings with some executives at Anime Expo. They don't want western shit spilling into the anime market. They tried that a while back, and it backfired horribly. Every venture they make from non-Japanese (not even just western, but Korean shit too) is all placed under separate divisions because they don't want things diluting the "brand" of anime and how hard it is defended by fans. I have seen this shit, heard these business strategies and talked to these executives myself.
I just consider it all "cartoons". Always have, always will.
Nobody watches networks anymore, everyone watches streaming these days.
~~*((They're*~~)) legitimizing child porn now?
~~*small*~~ ~~*white*~~ ~~*penis*~~
"Big" "Black" "vegana"?
immunity doggo is best doggo
Good doggo.
>anime-azing
>not anime-zing
Whoever wrote this should kill themselves to restore their honor from this disgrace.
That's the reason why the pajeets will do it for cheep.
How did Bore of the Creek become the literal face of CN?
By being the only middling show they have while the other CN's shows are shit. That's how bad things are at CN.
Thanks cutie
I like how the Black guy just looks confused about all this.
>Ayo, is dis some of dat vore crap you talked about?
Thank you, Immunity Cat!
Whatever it is I don't care, American CN only airs shonenshit on Toonami, now you don't get odd picks like Card Captor Sakura or Milk Chan
The 10s killed western animation
>Almost every Black person in anime is named Bob
On the one hand I can believe that because of how inexplicably popular Bob Sapp was over there but on the other hand I can't think of any other examples than Makihara.
I was mostly joking but a weird amount of black bit players in anime are named Bob. There was a Bob in Speed Grapher, a Bob in the group of black dudes that show up as canon fodder in the middle of Gantz, a Bob in Sket Dance and I know there are more than a few I am forgetting about since most of them show up and leave a scene or two later.
Listen I think anime is great but Jesus seeing western animators try to copy it and brand it is so pathetic. Why can't we have cartoons animated in something like the bones art style, or zita space girl, or Anyas ghost, or if you want to make it less "cartoony" look at pic related for inspiration, or other art in general that isn't just anime. But this is CN so obviously they're just chasing trends. no one wants to see western "anime"
>Anyas ghost
I get you for that animation style. Imagine not having to be bother too much with details. You can make the animation super gorgeous. However I think that the well has been already poison. These young animators only watch anime. The don't look for other references and inspirations. They just turn on Crunchyroll and HBO Max, and dive into their anime binge and that is it. They don't want western because they never grew up with western influences. Only great Nippon.
>Diversity is important everywhere
Stopped reading there.
Anon, if you're going to troll don't start with this right off the bat, it makes it way too obvious.
>diversity good?!! How dare you!! Must be trollposting!!!
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss
No one should be "political" or "forced" just because of their skin color
Diversity is not at odds with excellence, rather it is part of promoting excellence.
https://www.forbes.com/forbesinsights/innovation_diversity/index.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0007681308000049
You know what I want promote? My work so I don't live on the street fighting homeless people for food. Diversity doesn't pay the bills. Good stories does.
>thinking people want good stories
People will buy anything if you put a pretty enough ribbon on it. Quality and popularity have never been and will never be correlative.
>anime-azing
>Diversity is important everywhere, and ironically the US is one of the only places where there seems to be high focus on it in mainstream media, even if that's a result of there being a lot of tension. Queer people exist in other countries, immigrants exist in other countries, and black people absolutely exist in other predominantly white western countries. It's just that in those countries the status quo is so dominant that it's a lot harder to get the ball rolling on any meaningful conversation.
That's a stunning and brave message,anon. Now pack your shit, the studio is downsizing. And need to be out of here in a hour.
Literally what is it about cartoons and comics that attracts these progressive homosexuals to come and post here bros?
I don't blame other boards for calling us Cinemaphilemblr when I see shit like this to be honest.
Art is a fantasy where new-age thinkers always escape to, since the dawn of time. Traditionists just took control of it for a while via the church but it's always the weirdos of a given generation who would have the dedication to do that shit.
Anime Network is already a channel that has existed for like 2 decades man, it's not owned by CN
>tranime
cringe.
BRING IT BACK
Craig of the Creek won
Cartoon Network won
Roe v Wade overturn was a bad idea
Cinemaphile lost
/misc/ lost
Get the frick over it and move on.
>Roe v Wade overturn was a bad idea
thot detected
blacks should make their own cartoons
This thread is bad
yes it is
There already is an Anme Network.
Whatever. Frick israelites.
The person that wrote this has never listened to a psychiatrist and it shows.
Network
Jusr revive CNX, Turner, you motherfrickers
SPUN OFF TOONAMI AND ADULT SWIM AS INDEPENDENT CHANNELS ALREADY
>TOONAMI INDEPENDENT CHANNEL
Was already a thing until either by the executive whims of Turner or Ofcom's Mary-Whitehouse-esque censors. Frick the UK Gov's 'independent bodies'.
Also
>dump Doraemon on Boomerang
Frick Turner UK
It's sad how CN still think people like anime because of Sailor moon and Naruto, when the kids now want more Attack on titan.
>anime-azing
>not anime-zing
Craig of the Creek was made by two white men. have a nice day.
>American values
Not blind faith believing billionaire government officials and actually criticizing them?
>education
The straight up best educational institutions in the world like Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, etc?
Wait!
Is Toonami canceled?
[literally anything] American is always the worst version of said thing
You all got beaten up in school, didn't you
american blacks don't give a shit about you, foreigners need to stop pretending as if they're american and have a stake in american issues.
> arrogance
arrogance that foreigners are obsessed with and replicate like mindless morons
Like most other Americans, American blacks are also giant fricking narcissists who lose their shit if they feel like they're being excluded from something.
Frankly I wish my grandparents had never come to this country, it's like an entire country full of non-human morons.
>Frankly I wish my grandparents had never come to this country,
Honestly feel the same about this.
Can someone edit so it's Cinemaphile and anime?
I swear there's one of these up every time here.
Everyone here is LARPing. Most black dudes are on twitter or instagram or even fricking what's app, not on fricking Cinemaphile where incels seethe at black people 24/7.
a black man does (did?) it for free for longer than you've been alive
>Redwood
>The homosexual that sucked Moot's dick and became a power tripping Cinemaphile mod
the one and only
>Most black dudes are on twitter or instagram or even fricking what's app
That applies to literally everyone of every race.
I've been using this website for over 10 years.
>That applies to literally everyone of every race.
lmao yeah exactly
Boondocks was an American show that (imo) properly imitated the "anime style". A good amount of people loved it, and it was a majority black show to boot.
For any people who think the complaints about CotC are because of 'muh brown people.'
>Cinemaphile actually thought mutt corpos wouldn’t give money to Japanese studios
enjoy the ban
also wef and rothschilds are european so lol