>ANT-MAN 3 original pitch featured Ant-Man and the Wasp mentoring the Young Avengers as they fight M.O.D.O.K.

>ANT-MAN 3 original pitch featured Ant-Man and the Wasp mentoring the Young Avengers as they fight M.O.D.O.K. and A.I.M.

Ant-bros... We were fricking robbed.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but that would have made a decent movie and Disney cant have that in current year

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the original pile of shit with the annoying new generation sidekicks hogging all the attention would've been better than the pile of shit we got

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the MCU now isn't even about their titular heroes. Neither MoM nor Quantumania gave a shit about introducing or expanding the heroes' supporting cast, and previous storylines are pretty much sidelined in order to advance the multiverse storyline. They were doing the same with DD before the revamp by not including Karen and Foggy, and according to most rumours SM4 will mostly be a street level crossover where half the cast are other heroes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Most of the MCU now isn't even about their titular heroes.
      >now

      Of the trilogy, only First Avenger was about Cap. He was done dirty back then too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I was thinking a bit about it too. In retrospect is funny seeing how Red Skull never came back to fight against Cap (and yeah his cameo in IW was just to appease some internet theory), the Bucky storyline got resolved quickly in CW and Steve's relationship with Sharon ended up going nowhere. I remember that even the writers were a bit upset since they planned to make the 3rd film entirely around Cap, Sam and Bucky against Zemo until Feige literally came to their door saying "we're adapting civil war now"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I remember that even the writers were a bit upset since they planned to make the 3rd film entirely around Cap, Sam and Bucky against Zemo until Feige literally came to their door saying "we're adapting Civil War now"

          This never happened.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >We were robbed

    shut the frick up. what are you a fricking instagram bot??

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There should have been an Avengers movie by now with all of the older Avengers mentoring the newer ones. I know covid fricked things up, but Marvel is really dragging their feet on this.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >We were fricking robbed
    I don't feel like that. I personally don't like too many heroes/characters in a singular heroes movie. "Ant-Man" movies were already as much about Wasp and Hank as they were about Scott. And even then Scott's crew manages to be the most compelling part most of the time.

    Then just think of how poorly Quantumania was put together, a general plot synopsis wasn't going to change all the bad writing and directing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >And even then Scott's crew manages to be the most compelling part most of the time.

      Seriously? They insist upon themselves.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seriously, They were written better and had better character progression than Scott himself.

        Look at what a flop the one movie without them was. They carried the preceding ones on their back. Because just like Quantumania Scott/Ant-Man is a joke in his own movie until the last minute where he "comes through" in the end. They revert him to a loser at the beginning of every movie then he rises to the occasion. The crew started off just like him, but they matured from one movie to the next.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I actuay think that Quantumania had a better showing of Scott than the second one, like sure he's doesn't want to do hero stuff at the start but once the conflict starts he's shown as fairly competent until the end. Saving Cassie when they enter to the QR, teaching Cassie how to punch because he has actual experience, confronting Kang until he threatens Cassie, the probablity storm, raiding Kang's city, being the one that gave Kang a harder fight and being willing to sacrifice himself. Others still dunk on him and that got old fast tho

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Others still dunk on him and that got old fast tho
            He's always a little competent in each movie he's not a total idiot. But from the very first movie Hope and Hank treat Scott like a moron, maybe that grows into lovable moron, but he's the least capable/motivated person on the team every time. Now that I think about it, I wouldn't even say the villains he has hold any real connection to him as they are mostly directly related to Hank , Hope and Janet. At best he's like the last minute Deus Ex Machina in his own movies. They should have just made a movie about Hank and Janet to begin with, In my opinion.

            But to the original point Ant-Man is kind of best as a side character (even in his own movies). And changing the plot from Kang to a movie about training the next generation of heroes would not change that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There's a real point to the fact that Scott barely has any connection the villains he fights and has not much to do with the conflict at stakes, that comes with the territory of being an emerging hero that has to navigate through the weird setting. That's kinda the thing, Hank and Hope provide the setting but Scott is the p.o.v. character. Not having any connections to the villains is also a problem but ideally that shouldn't be, because those connections can also be made through the actual movie until it reaches its climax. Which is why Quantumania is a huge missed opportunity, it actually address those very problems. Darren comes back with a grudge with Scott, everyone calls out how Scott is not that motivated to do more hero work and would rather rest (there's an actual compelling conflict here, because what others would call retirement, from Scott's p.o.v. is just him giving proper attention to his number one priority, being a good father.) They also tried to build some form of rivalry with Kang and Scott but they really missed the one key component that could connect the two, time. Even the trailers spell it out. This is the actual movie that tries to graduate Scott from well meaning heroic-schmuck to a full blown hero that stands for something by saving the QR, but that never comes because he's never given the choice, Kang just goes full evil and tries to get Cassie, no shit he would be willing to fight to the death for that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Marvel really should have kept doing the one-shots. It would help to fill in the background and such for the side character, and maybe even a main or two.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wanting Quantumania to be even more of an ad for another movie than it already was
    >With an even more annoying cast
    No, I'd say we dodged one bullet and got grazed by another.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We got off-brand Phantom Menace instead of Young Avengers

      Yeah I'm with on this one.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ngl, I think the pitch for Quantumania being "Ant-Man and crew walk into an Avengers movie by themselves" has loads of potential but they dropped the ball when it comes to execution.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is Ant-Man street level?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and no

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the Young Avengers
    Cassie alone was fricking insufferable this movie, cramming in KnockoffEye and Ms Marvel would've made it even shittier.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna say that the root of the problem of the Ant-Man trilogy is Ant-Man and The Wasp, such a nothing movie that some think this was Ant-Man 2

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