The point of homelander is the flaw view of America and corporation think they can simply manufacte someone like superman
without the love of the kents
without the experience of smallville
without the compassion & love of his freinds
realistically real life superman would average be handwiener than homelander...which would be still bad but not as bad
Nah real life Superman would eventually just be Homelander. All that power, your life is set, it’s only a matter of how much you want to abuse the powers. Hanwiener for whatever reason just decided, yeah I’m gonna be poor and an butthole.
>Hanwiener for whatever reason just decided, yeah I’m gonna be poor and an butthole.
Hanwiener is a good guy tho, he "abused" his powers but nothing worse than cutting in front of a line or general "butthole" behavior. He proves to be a good guy all around.
Hanwiener is basically Superman with amnesia who was then shaped by his experiences as a homeless John Doe. Also a little less self control of his powers where Superman seemingly never has a super strength "whoops".
The Superman deconstruction I want to see is the one with Paralysis of Choice, where he basically doesn't do much of anything because he can't live with having to choose which crime he tries to stop when a convenience store is being held up on one side of town and on the other a bank robbery is happening, and his activity only invites liability claims and the government trying to make him their enforcer.
>The Superman deconstruction I want to see is the one with Paralysis of Choice, where he basically doesn't do much of anything because he can't live with having to choose which crime he tries to stop when a convenience store is being held up on one side of town and on the other a bank robbery is happening, and his activity only invites liability claims and the government trying to make him their enforcer.
Sentry is kinda like that right? I remember he had a supercomputer decide who he was going to save for him since he could not prioritize by himself.
Sentry had his own built in villain with the Void, so he's less a man who can do anything without consequences and more just another metahuman dragged in to capeshit by his very nature.
Something similar has probably been done before, but I once had an idea for a story involving a group of friends who are basically Supermen, but keep their abilities 100% secret and don't even attempt to stop crimes or save people. So much of the superhero media they've seen suggests that they'd just make the world and their own lives worse in the process, so frick it, why bother?
I've always been interested in a story exploring that angle, but if something like that already exists and I've just missed it, I'd love to check it out.
90% of people wouldn't become Homelander. They might not respect all laws as to achieve whatever goal they'd want, but they wouldn't start murdering random civilians or be easily manipulated like Homelander
>every single person using this website would 100% become homelander
tbf, the people on this website are the minority of people. don't represent most people in society
I wouldn't, I'd be more like Cinemaphile's yujiro hanma, just fricking with powerfull people, regardless of their political beliefs then casually demolish all records.
>Nah real life Superman would eventually just be Homelander.
No you frickign moron, the entire fricking premise of Homelander is that his born and bred as a product, he exists because someone wanted to make money using him, his entire life is a lie used to sell shit.
Trought out his existance his neglected and appeased by highest forms of hedonism while regarding the rest of humanity as just a litany of dimwitted gawkers that make his drug and sex fueled lifestyle possible.
Remove all of this and there will be no Homelander to begin with.
Remove all of this and theres no way anyone with super powers would end up like Homelander.
It feels moronic to have to explain this.
No a real life superman would be just like this because he would absolutely be a slave to a corporation and shill for whatever his masters tell him to do
Something like Superman during the 70s and 80s but much more mom and pop aesthetic
No a real life superman would be just like this because he would absolutely be a slave to a corporation and shill for whatever his masters tell him to do
Something like Superman during the 70s and 80s but much more mom and pop aesthetic
That's what Homelander had been doing for most of his career but there's always been the underlying psychopathy and now he's starting to realize that because he's so strong he can do absolutely anything he wants and no one would physically be able to stop him.
>slave to a corporation and shill for whatever his masters tell him to do
Yeah, a man with almost limitless power would be a slave to a company... You're an idiot.
This guy actually gets it. "Real life" Superman, if he grew up under the Kent's in Smallville, would be exactly like how he is portrayed. There's plenty of similar sportstars who behave like Clark Kent and aren't psychopaths.
Depends on what type of anon gets the powers. I’ve slightly matured since I first came here, so while going full injustice might be tempting, I’d probably just terraform a nearby planet and destabilize the evil cores of a few world powers.
I think the "powerful" people in society take basic lizard brain motivations about their survival, like hoarding control and resources, up to 11.
I don't think a guy who's already effectively invincible would have those motivating factors.
This. 90% of real mafia boss live in a bunker with a computer. Its all about needing something so much you hoard it. Be it power, money or anything else. If you are a balanced person, you are content of what you have. If you dont need anything, you develop tastes.
Superman probably is a huge voyeur, other supes would do unspeakable things for boredom, wich would be their worst enemy
>Superman probably is a huge voyeur, other supes would do unspeakable things for boredom, wich would be their worst enemy
If i had superpowers like that i'd be playing life as construction sim or something. Imagine you can literally get up in the morning and decide to carve up a mountain and be done doing it by night time. You could go "oh this country has a drought right now? Guess who can fix that". There would be no news on tv making you mad that you couldnt just go do something about after a cup of coffee.
And then there is the fact that you are essentially the ultimate sovereign citizen. No one can tax you, imprison you or expel you, all your interactions with society will be 100% voluntary and optional, governments, even the most totalitarian and neurotic ones are gonna have to treat you like you're a nuclear power sitting at the table. And what if you're a funny guy and put a fart cushion under Kim Jong Un's chair? What exactly are they going to do about it?
They would have to groom him from birth. If the average working class person got powers or if they grew as working class without revealing themselves they would absorb their world view from peers and not sympathize with elites.
>that pic
Isn't that a natural reaction any modern Yugioh card?
https://i.imgur.com/NpGbz95.png
Any objective proof that real life Superman would act like him?
>Any objective proof that real life Superman would act like him?
No and he doesn't really work as a character without the Superman IP. People would think that he is just a shitty character.
>that pic
Isn't that a natural reaction any modern Yugioh card?
[...] >Any objective proof that real life Superman would act like him?
No and he doesn't really work as a character without the Superman IP. People would think that he is just a shitty character.
If you're moronic. Which...this is Cinemaphile so hey.
It’s stupid to compare Homelander to Superman because they have two very different upbringings. Homelander was a lab rat raised by a company with no paternal guidance or proper social interaction, a walking product. Superman had a loving family and normal school life
The powers are irrelevant, anyone raised like Homelander would have sociopathic issues
>anyone raised like Homelander would have sociopathic issues
makes me wish we'd get an adaptation of supreme power, hyperion purposefully being raised to be a good person loyal to the usa, but starts to question everything he's been taught and where his place in the world would be interesting.
but disney have no balls and the comparison to homelander would be endless
If he was raised in a lab without any love or guidance aside from being a corporate product then yeah, he probably won't be a terribly functional person.
It’s stupid to compare Homelander to Superman because they have two very different upbringings. Homelander was a lab rat raised by a company with no paternal guidance or proper social interaction, a walking product. Superman had a loving family and normal school life
The powers are irrelevant, anyone raised like Homelander would have sociopathic issues
Isn't that literally flashpoint superman? He was still a good person.
In flash point, Superman wasn't trained or really had interaction with the scientists. The US government wasn't turning him into a super weapon. He was just under observation.
When he was first released from captivity he wasn't a good person or a bad person and his first responses to the freedom was to react in a very simple way. He became a better person after time. Homelander was born in a lab, raised by committee to act in the interests of a company and to be the face of that company without any real consideration to him as a person. Mainline superman was raised by a family who loved him and learned to care for others, Flashpoint superman was not really raised so mush as contained, Homelander was raised to be celebrity product. Raising someone to be a celebrity usually turns out badly in comparison to raising someone who becomes a celebrity, even then they could end up fricked up.
Homelander was raised from birth in a lab to be a public figure with super powers, Clark Kent has(or had) a normal life with jobs and and friends outside of Superman and was raised in small town america with the love of his parents. It would be wierd of the outcome was the same.
I see it more like he has no limit to his power, which corrupts. I understand that he was always KGB. But i mean on how power corrupts. There is alot in play in shaping a person.
The guy who runs Syria might be a better example, because he suddenly went from being apparently an actually decent eye doctor to the dictator of a country. And we saw how that turned out.
Putin's life story is more an example of not only KGB mentality getting power but just what constantly living on the tides of history does.
Assad is a far more decent ruler than the average dictator by virtue of being a secular Alawite in a country full of ravenous Sunnite extremists, his main occupation for the last 12 years have been making sure the non-bred, non-moronic minorities in his country dont get genocided by flavours of ISIS.
If he was raised the same way yes. Homelander is the way he is because they fricked up raising him and gave him a parental complex combined with a twisted superiority/inferiority complex.
He and the rest of supes in the Boys are basically what happens when you give adult child actors super powers.
Honestly Greek Mythology and mythology in general is probably the best depiction of "realistic" depiction of super humans. They style themselves as defenders of humanity and legendary heroes, however they are plagued by human vices and passions that ultimately cause their down fall.
Very few characterized themselves as defenders of humanity in general.
Grecian heroes are characterized by their self-centeredness. Even the good ones aren't characterized as altruists, failed or otherwise. Culturally the ideas of being infinitely charitable weren't as strong and being non-violent wasn't so pushed for.
If we're scouring mythology in general, I believe it was Thor who styled himself the defender of the common man. Dim lad, not too bright, apparently looks good in a dress but his heart is in the right place.
Superman fans get triggered by Homelander because he represents all the ideals on the outside a corporation like DC would absolutely push on the character to manipulate autists
Of course its fake but the point of the character is to show how you are being manipulated by thinking goodness for goodness sake is just an artificial construct to get your coins
all the edginess is just a entry level interpretation
The show is much more nuanced than the comic
You'd think they'd learn after Milk Wars spelt it out, but no.
Not from any myth I remember. Worst I can remember Thor doing is taking some peasant children as his servants because one of them broke his goat's leg to suck at the marrow after he slaughtered them to feed the family, which resulted in it being lame upon resurrection. And honestly, being the servant of a god is probably a step up from being a peasant in ancient times considering Thor isn't one of the rapey sorts.
This isn't a black and white ideology.
Some people would be Homelander, some people would be Superman, others would probably be Movie Shazam. Humanity is not a pure good/evil thing, despite what the news, raging feminists on twitter and others would have you believe.
>Didn't read the comic, why didn't this guy had a bomb in his head if he ever stepped out of line?
Only when he was a little kid, and it was hydrogen bomb. Why they didn't keep the bomb around is anyone's guess.
>Didn't read the comic, why didn't this guy had a bomb in his head if he ever stepped out of line?
Only when he was a little kid, and it was hydrogen bomb. Why they didn't keep the bomb around is anyone's guess.
He was literally strapped to a Cold War-era ICBM, not a brain bomb. I'm guessing they thought Black Noir would be enough of a deterrent.
Not that I'm defending the setting or its internal logic. It really goes off the rails if you think about it too hard.
Superman fans get triggered by Homelander because he represents all the ideals on the outside a corporation like DC would absolutely push on the character to manipulate autists
Of course its fake but the point of the character is to show how you are being manipulated by thinking goodness for goodness sake is just an artificial construct to get your coins
all the edginess is just a entry level interpretation
The show is much more nuanced than the comic
Aside from the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of people in real life that act just like him minus the actual superpowers? What the frick is this question anyway? Proof that a human would act selfishly and vainly, have psychotic tendencies?
When did people get the idea that the premise of the superhero genre is "what if random people had powers?" Peter Parker was an above average outstanding person before he ever got powers, and Clark would still be making a difference in the world even if he wasn't superman. Superheroes ARE good people on their own, the powers just highlight this fact, if your not good your not a super HERO your just an butthole in tights.
>No he wasn't. He wasn't even that after he got powers. Which is why Uncle Ben died.
He was way above average in terms of intellect and made the right decision in the end. If Peter quit being spiderman he would have a pretty good life. Home lander can't quit because there is nothing to his life other than his powers.
>That's not really what we were talking about and doesn't really mean anything in terms of a person's morals.
Your right, but it also means that things going for him other than his powers. Where as a lot of people over focus on the powers aspect.
>if your not good your not a super HERO your just an butthole in tights.
I feel like this would need its own category, something like super malefactor or super wrongdoer.
None whatsoever because if superman were real so would frickers like Braniac. And the simple matter of having real, true evil to stand on the otherside of would prevent them from falling to the absolute dregs of humanity that these shithead writers think everyone exists at.
Superman deconstructions should've stopped with Marshal Law.
Power corrupts. Especially power where there is little to no opposition capable of stopping you. Superman claims he is right and justify this because he is more powerful than you. Thus capable of enforcing his will over yours. Claims he have the moral high ground despite ignoring all the atrocities happening around him.
Fear of losing power corrupts, power by itself does nothing. An invincible person would have no fear, and so they would not do things like order curfews and have Gestapo.
I don't think the whole "power corrupts" thing really applies to a Superman type situation who is just innately born with power. Personally I think that if you're the type who manages to claw your way to the top of the heap you're already plenty corrupt and the power is just allowing it to come to the surface. I don't think a Superman raised as an average guy would be killing people for fun or dedicating his life to saving them. I think the most likely outcome is living a life of luxury by doing shit like effortlessly putting satellites into orbit for a huge paycheck.
It depends. >Clark was raised by loving parents in a small town, taught responsibility and humility, the Man of Tomorrow >flawed families can create several types, at best he grows better to a similar scenario as Clark, at worst you get a Superdick >be raised entirely as a product with no regard to your emotions or psychological wellbeing as long as it doesn't affect profits while being put through heinous shit to test your limits can only lead to disaster. that disaster is called the Homelander, and he can do whatever the frick he wants
I think Homelander is a uniquely fricked up case. He's a lab rat with a mommy and praise kink.
But if you gave your average anon Superman-tier powers, you'd end up with picrel. A slow fustration at the burden of heroic responsibilties mixed in with the slow realization that nobody can bring you to justice and viola you have a monster.
I kind of like the idea of a story of a "Superman who doesn't want to be Superman". Only example I can think of is Metroman from Megamind. There could be so much you could do with it. >guy is born with Superman tier powers >does nothing with them and does everything he can to keep his powers secret >lives by himself in the woods >just wants to be left alone >one day on instinct he saves a family of hikers that fall off a cliff by catching them and flying them to safety >all of it was caught on video and uploaded to the internet, whole world knows >first it was swarms of reporters trespassing on his property >then it was the government harassing and spying on him >then Superheroes either trying to recruit him, trying to guilt trip him when he refuses and some even attacking him out of self-righteous indignation >then a supervillain picked a fight with him and destroyed his home, causing him to straight up kill the villain and labeled a murderer
Being a hero like Superman would suck as you would be on call 24/7 and if you just miss one person that got into a car wreck and died while you were saving 30 people from a burning building, people will get mad at you.
>your average anon
I can see a lot of people who grow up in third world countries unironically just playing Darkseid with Superman powers. Not saying everyone from there would, but high conflict low resource places breed desperation. And resentment, once they realise how much better off even anons have it.
Being a hero like Superman would suck as you would be on call 24/7 and if you just miss one person that got into a car wreck and died while you were saving 30 people from a burning building, people will get mad at you.
Being Darkseid is easier than being Superman, yeah.
No, everyone is different. That would be exactly the same as saying handing a gun to literally anybody will always result in them using the gun to kill everyone they see.
Not quite on topic, but tbh: i feel that people who are like "hehe superheros would abuse their powers cuz i'm cynical" would, give superpowers irl. would still be too chicken to go through with it, and feel terrible if they killed someone because deep down, they're cowards. Sociopaths if you asked probably wouldn't feel one way or the other.
People project their very real insecurities with politicians, celebrities, athletes etc. onto characters like Superman. We live in a world where Bill Cosby, the most wholesome actor you can think of was a rapist. If Bill Cosby isn't a good wholesome person in reality as much as he was on the TV, what hope is there for Superman? Unlike with Bill Cosby, if Superman asked you to frick him you couldn't even fight back.
Or to quote green arrow.
"Hey, I'm the only guy in the room who doesn't have superpowers, and let me tell you, you guys scare me. What if you do decide to go marching down there, taking care of whoever you think is guilty? Who could stop you?"
No. A real superman acting like homelander is relatively unlikely. A real superman wouldn't be a saint like Clark, but he would be more on the reasonably neutral spectrum on average.
Honestly if a real superman kills us all it would more likely be by accident than on purpose. Like for example jumping off the planet too hard.
The modern state of Kansas. There is no family like the Kents anymore. No place like Smallville. It was an imagined place and time that might have exist but now hasn't for decades. Agribusiness has taken the farms and the military industrial complex runs everywhere else.
Real life superman would act like superman. What a stupid thread. Theres nothing unrealistic about his personality, he can just he ssuperman. This is like asking if there's any proof real life Jack Bauer wouldn't be a genderspecial troon with blue hair
>Theres nothing unrealistic about his personality, he can just he ssuperman.
I don't think Superman has a personality. He is just the empty generic good guy with infinite power. He didn't have any hardships in the original comics. His biggest enemy is a bald rich guy.
His biggest dilemma is "Oh how can I defeat this ant without crushing it with one finger?" or "Oh I fricked this up this time .... I guess I'll just reverse time and do it again!".
It's a low effort power fantasy for kids.
People here are saying an irl Superman would be just like Homelander but fail to mention that Superman isn't human. He doesn't have the same greed or drive for power that humans do(In most context). His powers aren't the only unrealistic thing about him. His unfaltering boy scout personality is a part of him too. If he had the same origin as the OG Superman raised by the Kent's he's going to be annoyingly good. And then you losers on here would spend all day shitposting about the people he saved and how he's a cuck because you saw Lois Lane a bar with a male friend or something.
The point of homelander is the flaw view of America and corporation think they can simply manufacte someone like superman
without the love of the kents
without the experience of smallville
without the compassion & love of his freinds
realistically real life superman would average be handwiener than homelander...which would be still bad but not as bad
Vought didn't give a shit about making an actual protector or savior, they just wanted the world's strongest mascots.
Nah real life Superman would eventually just be Homelander. All that power, your life is set, it’s only a matter of how much you want to abuse the powers. Hanwiener for whatever reason just decided, yeah I’m gonna be poor and an butthole.
>Hanwiener for whatever reason just decided, yeah I’m gonna be poor and an butthole.
Hanwiener is a good guy tho, he "abused" his powers but nothing worse than cutting in front of a line or general "butthole" behavior. He proves to be a good guy all around.
Correct. He used his power careless.
Hanwiener is basically Superman with amnesia who was then shaped by his experiences as a homeless John Doe. Also a little less self control of his powers where Superman seemingly never has a super strength "whoops".
The Superman deconstruction I want to see is the one with Paralysis of Choice, where he basically doesn't do much of anything because he can't live with having to choose which crime he tries to stop when a convenience store is being held up on one side of town and on the other a bank robbery is happening, and his activity only invites liability claims and the government trying to make him their enforcer.
>The Superman deconstruction I want to see is the one with Paralysis of Choice, where he basically doesn't do much of anything because he can't live with having to choose which crime he tries to stop when a convenience store is being held up on one side of town and on the other a bank robbery is happening, and his activity only invites liability claims and the government trying to make him their enforcer.
Sentry is kinda like that right? I remember he had a supercomputer decide who he was going to save for him since he could not prioritize by himself.
Sentry had his own built in villain with the Void, so he's less a man who can do anything without consequences and more just another metahuman dragged in to capeshit by his very nature.
Something similar has probably been done before, but I once had an idea for a story involving a group of friends who are basically Supermen, but keep their abilities 100% secret and don't even attempt to stop crimes or save people. So much of the superhero media they've seen suggests that they'd just make the world and their own lives worse in the process, so frick it, why bother?
I've always been interested in a story exploring that angle, but if something like that already exists and I've just missed it, I'd love to check it out.
What's the second and third act of a story where the protags consistently and successfully avoid the call to action?
Isn't that Metro Man, tired of doing all the heroing and wants to just leave it?
90% of people wouldn't become Homelander. They might not respect all laws as to achieve whatever goal they'd want, but they wouldn't start murdering random civilians or be easily manipulated like Homelander
>90% of people wouldn't become Homelander
every single person using this website would 100% become homelander
I wouldn't. I'm pretty different than most of the shitheads that post here though.
>every single person using this website would 100% become homelander
tbf, the people on this website are the minority of people. don't represent most people in society
I wouldn't, I'd be more like Cinemaphile's yujiro hanma, just fricking with powerfull people, regardless of their political beliefs then casually demolish all records.
>Nah real life Superman would eventually just be Homelander.
No you frickign moron, the entire fricking premise of Homelander is that his born and bred as a product, he exists because someone wanted to make money using him, his entire life is a lie used to sell shit.
Trought out his existance his neglected and appeased by highest forms of hedonism while regarding the rest of humanity as just a litany of dimwitted gawkers that make his drug and sex fueled lifestyle possible.
Remove all of this and there will be no Homelander to begin with.
Remove all of this and theres no way anyone with super powers would end up like Homelander.
It feels moronic to have to explain this.
Projection
Psychopath projecting.
woah
No a real life superman would be just like this because he would absolutely be a slave to a corporation and shill for whatever his masters tell him to do
Something like Superman during the 70s and 80s but much more mom and pop aesthetic
That's what Homelander had been doing for most of his career but there's always been the underlying psychopathy and now he's starting to realize that because he's so strong he can do absolutely anything he wants and no one would physically be able to stop him.
>slave to a corporation and shill for whatever his masters tell him to do
Yeah, a man with almost limitless power would be a slave to a company... You're an idiot.
This guy actually gets it. "Real life" Superman, if he grew up under the Kent's in Smallville, would be exactly like how he is portrayed. There's plenty of similar sportstars who behave like Clark Kent and aren't psychopaths.
Stand up, ape.
First post based post.
ngl, i always wondered if what would happen if a Cinemaphile autist get superman's powers? how fricked would we all be
That Brightburn movie
Depends on what type of anon gets the powers. I’ve slightly matured since I first came here, so while going full injustice might be tempting, I’d probably just terraform a nearby planet and destabilize the evil cores of a few world powers.
Jesus is a real life Superman, and he doesn't act like him.
>unironically thinking Jesus existed
wasnt there records of his execution?
i think the general consensus is that Jesus did exist, just his divinity is up for debate
Jesus is the exception to the rule
>”OUT OF THE FRICKING TEMPLE YOU FRICKING c**tS”
>“Make fricking sure you’re packing heat, lads.”
I think the "powerful" people in society take basic lizard brain motivations about their survival, like hoarding control and resources, up to 11.
I don't think a guy who's already effectively invincible would have those motivating factors.
This. 90% of real mafia boss live in a bunker with a computer. Its all about needing something so much you hoard it. Be it power, money or anything else. If you are a balanced person, you are content of what you have. If you dont need anything, you develop tastes.
Superman probably is a huge voyeur, other supes would do unspeakable things for boredom, wich would be their worst enemy
>Superman probably is a huge voyeur, other supes would do unspeakable things for boredom, wich would be their worst enemy
If i had superpowers like that i'd be playing life as construction sim or something. Imagine you can literally get up in the morning and decide to carve up a mountain and be done doing it by night time. You could go "oh this country has a drought right now? Guess who can fix that". There would be no news on tv making you mad that you couldnt just go do something about after a cup of coffee.
And then there is the fact that you are essentially the ultimate sovereign citizen. No one can tax you, imprison you or expel you, all your interactions with society will be 100% voluntary and optional, governments, even the most totalitarian and neurotic ones are gonna have to treat you like you're a nuclear power sitting at the table. And what if you're a funny guy and put a fart cushion under Kim Jong Un's chair? What exactly are they going to do about it?
i can imagine the illuminati will dick ride a real life superman trying to earn his favor so that they can use him against their rivals.
They would have to groom him from birth. If the average working class person got powers or if they grew as working class without revealing themselves they would absorb their world view from peers and not sympathize with elites.
>Is there objective proof that this hypothetical character would act like this other fictional character
Yeah sure we have studies on this. Objective proof, what the frick are you talking about?
This, mongoloid
>Any objective proof that (proposed consequence of literally impossible thing)
You're moronic, OP.
>that pic
Isn't that a natural reaction any modern Yugioh card?
>Any objective proof that real life Superman would act like him?
No and he doesn't really work as a character without the Superman IP. People would think that he is just a shitty character.
>Isn't that a natural reaction any modern Yugioh card?
Yes
If you're moronic. Which...this is Cinemaphile so hey.
If your card needs that much text, you've made a bad game
>I'm too stupid to play this children's game so it's bad
Okay moron
He ended up being the way he is because he never had any parents. He was raised like a wild animal
No because its fiction & not all of us are tryhard edgelords that live in their parents basement.
Fiction is based on reality
/co/
It’s stupid to compare Homelander to Superman because they have two very different upbringings. Homelander was a lab rat raised by a company with no paternal guidance or proper social interaction, a walking product. Superman had a loving family and normal school life
The powers are irrelevant, anyone raised like Homelander would have sociopathic issues
>anyone raised like Homelander would have sociopathic issues
makes me wish we'd get an adaptation of supreme power, hyperion purposefully being raised to be a good person loyal to the usa, but starts to question everything he's been taught and where his place in the world would be interesting.
but disney have no balls and the comparison to homelander would be endless
If he was raised in a lab without any love or guidance aside from being a corporate product then yeah, he probably won't be a terribly functional person.
Isn't that literally flashpoint superman? He was still a good person.
In flash point, Superman wasn't trained or really had interaction with the scientists. The US government wasn't turning him into a super weapon. He was just under observation.
When he was first released from captivity he wasn't a good person or a bad person and his first responses to the freedom was to react in a very simple way. He became a better person after time. Homelander was born in a lab, raised by committee to act in the interests of a company and to be the face of that company without any real consideration to him as a person. Mainline superman was raised by a family who loved him and learned to care for others, Flashpoint superman was not really raised so mush as contained, Homelander was raised to be celebrity product. Raising someone to be a celebrity usually turns out badly in comparison to raising someone who becomes a celebrity, even then they could end up fricked up.
It was only revealed in a tie-in, but he knew Lois as a kid in the bunker. Having a friend is a lot more than Homelander got.
>objective proof
>real life Superman
Homelander was raised from birth in a lab to be a public figure with super powers, Clark Kent has(or had) a normal life with jobs and and friends outside of Superman and was raised in small town america with the love of his parents. It would be wierd of the outcome was the same.
Objective proof would mean we've had a real life Superman to base this observation off of
That's how I would act with superpowers, and I am extremely autistic so I can't comprehend that other people wouldn't do what I would do.
Objective proof would be Putin or Abiy Ahmed. An example that ultimate power corrupts. But than you have JFK or Nelson Mandela that counters that.
>Objective proof would be Putin or Abiy Ahmed. An example that ultimate power corrupts
Putin isn't a good example if you view his story as a whole.
I see it more like he has no limit to his power, which corrupts. I understand that he was always KGB. But i mean on how power corrupts. There is alot in play in shaping a person.
The guy who runs Syria might be a better example, because he suddenly went from being apparently an actually decent eye doctor to the dictator of a country. And we saw how that turned out.
Putin's life story is more an example of not only KGB mentality getting power but just what constantly living on the tides of history does.
Assad is a far more decent ruler than the average dictator by virtue of being a secular Alawite in a country full of ravenous Sunnite extremists, his main occupation for the last 12 years have been making sure the non-bred, non-moronic minorities in his country dont get genocided by flavours of ISIS.
If he was raised the same way yes. Homelander is the way he is because they fricked up raising him and gave him a parental complex combined with a twisted superiority/inferiority complex.
He and the rest of supes in the Boys are basically what happens when you give adult child actors super powers.
Honestly Greek Mythology and mythology in general is probably the best depiction of "realistic" depiction of super humans. They style themselves as defenders of humanity and legendary heroes, however they are plagued by human vices and passions that ultimately cause their down fall.
Wow what an insightful and original take….
>Wow what an insightful and original take….
Better than "What if superman was a rapist/racist/sexist/pedophile/cannibal"
Very few characterized themselves as defenders of humanity in general.
Grecian heroes are characterized by their self-centeredness. Even the good ones aren't characterized as altruists, failed or otherwise. Culturally the ideas of being infinitely charitable weren't as strong and being non-violent wasn't so pushed for.
If we're scouring mythology in general, I believe it was Thor who styled himself the defender of the common man. Dim lad, not too bright, apparently looks good in a dress but his heart is in the right place.
You'd think they'd learn after Milk Wars spelt it out, but no.
Didn't he also once crush a mans skull because he gave him shitty soup
Not from any myth I remember. Worst I can remember Thor doing is taking some peasant children as his servants because one of them broke his goat's leg to suck at the marrow after he slaughtered them to feed the family, which resulted in it being lame upon resurrection. And honestly, being the servant of a god is probably a step up from being a peasant in ancient times considering Thor isn't one of the rapey sorts.
This isn't a black and white ideology.
Some people would be Homelander, some people would be Superman, others would probably be Movie Shazam. Humanity is not a pure good/evil thing, despite what the news, raging feminists on twitter and others would have you believe.
Didn't read the comic, why didn't this guy had a bomb in his head if he ever stepped out of line?
>Didn't read the comic, why didn't this guy had a bomb in his head if he ever stepped out of line?
Only when he was a little kid, and it was hydrogen bomb. Why they didn't keep the bomb around is anyone's guess.
He was literally strapped to a Cold War-era ICBM, not a brain bomb. I'm guessing they thought Black Noir would be enough of a deterrent.
Not that I'm defending the setting or its internal logic. It really goes off the rails if you think about it too hard.
Superman fans get triggered by Homelander because he represents all the ideals on the outside a corporation like DC would absolutely push on the character to manipulate autists
Of course its fake but the point of the character is to show how you are being manipulated by thinking goodness for goodness sake is just an artificial construct to get your coins
all the edginess is just a entry level interpretation
The show is much more nuanced than the comic
>Corporations bad CIA good.
>Now pay for that amazon prime subscription.
Such nuance.
The System's Neatest Trick: hire a team of Neoliberals to bash the System.
Aside from the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of people in real life that act just like him minus the actual superpowers? What the frick is this question anyway? Proof that a human would act selfishly and vainly, have psychotic tendencies?
I’m sure the actual number is higher if they were really honest, probably goes even higher if they knew they had Superman powers.
Probably offset by the number of men that already rape without giving a shit
See: The entirety of India
>Any objective proof that real life Superman would act like him?
A real life Superman would be far worse.
>objective prof
>for two fictional characters in two different hypothetical settings
You ok, anon?
>objective proof of fiction
moron
When did people get the idea that the premise of the superhero genre is "what if random people had powers?" Peter Parker was an above average outstanding person before he ever got powers, and Clark would still be making a difference in the world even if he wasn't superman. Superheroes ARE good people on their own, the powers just highlight this fact, if your not good your not a super HERO your just an butthole in tights.
>Peter Parker was an above average outstanding person before he ever got powers
No he wasn't. He wasn't even that after he got powers. Which is why Uncle Ben died.
>No he wasn't. He wasn't even that after he got powers. Which is why Uncle Ben died.
He was way above average in terms of intellect and made the right decision in the end. If Peter quit being spiderman he would have a pretty good life. Home lander can't quit because there is nothing to his life other than his powers.
>He was way above average in terms of intellect
That's not really what we were talking about and doesn't really mean anything in terms of a person's morals.
>That's not really what we were talking about and doesn't really mean anything in terms of a person's morals.
Your right, but it also means that things going for him other than his powers. Where as a lot of people over focus on the powers aspect.
>if your not good your not a super HERO your just an butthole in tights.
I feel like this would need its own category, something like super malefactor or super wrongdoer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
None whatsoever because if superman were real so would frickers like Braniac. And the simple matter of having real, true evil to stand on the otherside of would prevent them from falling to the absolute dregs of humanity that these shithead writers think everyone exists at.
Superman deconstructions should've stopped with Marshal Law.
He wouldn't. Why would a random person turn into a psycho just because he had powers. It all depends on the upbringing
what happened to pre-wiz in the comics, they kill all the supes did they just get left in the mansion?
Power corrupts. Especially power where there is little to no opposition capable of stopping you. Superman claims he is right and justify this because he is more powerful than you. Thus capable of enforcing his will over yours. Claims he have the moral high ground despite ignoring all the atrocities happening around him.
Fear of losing power corrupts, power by itself does nothing. An invincible person would have no fear, and so they would not do things like order curfews and have Gestapo.
Captain America proves this wrong. You give him Supermans powers of course.
No proof, just cynicism.
>real life Superman
Anon, i.....who is gonna tell him?
Are you implying The Boys is realistic? lol
I don't think the whole "power corrupts" thing really applies to a Superman type situation who is just innately born with power. Personally I think that if you're the type who manages to claw your way to the top of the heap you're already plenty corrupt and the power is just allowing it to come to the surface. I don't think a Superman raised as an average guy would be killing people for fun or dedicating his life to saving them. I think the most likely outcome is living a life of luxury by doing shit like effortlessly putting satellites into orbit for a huge paycheck.
It depends.
>Clark was raised by loving parents in a small town, taught responsibility and humility, the Man of Tomorrow
>flawed families can create several types, at best he grows better to a similar scenario as Clark, at worst you get a Superdick
>be raised entirely as a product with no regard to your emotions or psychological wellbeing as long as it doesn't affect profits while being put through heinous shit to test your limits can only lead to disaster. that disaster is called the Homelander, and he can do whatever the frick he wants
I think Homelander is a uniquely fricked up case. He's a lab rat with a mommy and praise kink.
But if you gave your average anon Superman-tier powers, you'd end up with picrel. A slow fustration at the burden of heroic responsibilties mixed in with the slow realization that nobody can bring you to justice and viola you have a monster.
If i had superpowers i would do nothing with them, just an excuse to not eat or sleep.
I kind of like the idea of a story of a "Superman who doesn't want to be Superman". Only example I can think of is Metroman from Megamind. There could be so much you could do with it.
>guy is born with Superman tier powers
>does nothing with them and does everything he can to keep his powers secret
>lives by himself in the woods
>just wants to be left alone
>one day on instinct he saves a family of hikers that fall off a cliff by catching them and flying them to safety
>all of it was caught on video and uploaded to the internet, whole world knows
>first it was swarms of reporters trespassing on his property
>then it was the government harassing and spying on him
>then Superheroes either trying to recruit him, trying to guilt trip him when he refuses and some even attacking him out of self-righteous indignation
>then a supervillain picked a fight with him and destroyed his home, causing him to straight up kill the villain and labeled a murderer
Not in the woods, just living a normal life but with the powers.
But this sounds like kino.
>villain destroys some property
>'hero' kill them for it
He is a murderer.
>PEOPLE OVER PROPERTY
lol
lmao
Being a hero like Superman would suck as you would be on call 24/7 and if you just miss one person that got into a car wreck and died while you were saving 30 people from a burning building, people will get mad at you.
Yeah, i'd rather just live a normal life but not have to eat or sleep.
>your average anon
I can see a lot of people who grow up in third world countries unironically just playing Darkseid with Superman powers. Not saying everyone from there would, but high conflict low resource places breed desperation. And resentment, once they realise how much better off even anons have it.
Being Darkseid is easier than being Superman, yeah.
Basically plot of Iredeemable.
No, everyone is different. That would be exactly the same as saying handing a gun to literally anybody will always result in them using the gun to kill everyone they see.
Real life Superman would be Superman. And Superman doesn't act like that.
No
>Any objective proof
What the frick does this even mean
kys mass replying homosexual
Not quite on topic, but tbh: i feel that people who are like "hehe superheros would abuse their powers cuz i'm cynical" would, give superpowers irl. would still be too chicken to go through with it, and feel terrible if they killed someone because deep down, they're cowards. Sociopaths if you asked probably wouldn't feel one way or the other.
>that homie who responds to the entire thread
Here's your (you) now get out.
People project their very real insecurities with politicians, celebrities, athletes etc. onto characters like Superman. We live in a world where Bill Cosby, the most wholesome actor you can think of was a rapist. If Bill Cosby isn't a good wholesome person in reality as much as he was on the TV, what hope is there for Superman? Unlike with Bill Cosby, if Superman asked you to frick him you couldn't even fight back.
Or to quote green arrow.
"Hey, I'm the only guy in the room who doesn't have superpowers, and let me tell you, you guys scare me. What if you do decide to go marching down there, taking care of whoever you think is guilty? Who could stop you?"
No. A real superman acting like homelander is relatively unlikely. A real superman wouldn't be a saint like Clark, but he would be more on the reasonably neutral spectrum on average.
Honestly if a real superman kills us all it would more likely be by accident than on purpose. Like for example jumping off the planet too hard.
mental illness
Most people who are given even a small amount of power abuse the hell out of it, it’s pretty self evident
The modern state of Kansas. There is no family like the Kents anymore. No place like Smallville. It was an imagined place and time that might have exist but now hasn't for decades. Agribusiness has taken the farms and the military industrial complex runs everywhere else.
>The modern state of Kansas. There is no family like the Kents anymore. No place like Smallville.
Sorry i'm allergic to bullshit.
so, did a-train actually betray sonic boy or did homelander just over heard them in the elevator?
Real life superman would act like superman. What a stupid thread. Theres nothing unrealistic about his personality, he can just he ssuperman. This is like asking if there's any proof real life Jack Bauer wouldn't be a genderspecial troon with blue hair
>Theres nothing unrealistic about his personality, he can just he ssuperman.
I don't think Superman has a personality. He is just the empty generic good guy with infinite power. He didn't have any hardships in the original comics. His biggest enemy is a bald rich guy.
His biggest dilemma is "Oh how can I defeat this ant without crushing it with one finger?" or "Oh I fricked this up this time .... I guess I'll just reverse time and do it again!".
It's a low effort power fantasy for kids.
People here are saying an irl Superman would be just like Homelander but fail to mention that Superman isn't human. He doesn't have the same greed or drive for power that humans do(In most context). His powers aren't the only unrealistic thing about him. His unfaltering boy scout personality is a part of him too. If he had the same origin as the OG Superman raised by the Kent's he's going to be annoyingly good. And then you losers on here would spend all day shitposting about the people he saved and how he's a cuck because you saw Lois Lane a bar with a male friend or something.
Yes, the failure of communism is proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely.