By virtue of not being subjected to dumb editorial rules and writers/fans who seek to retread the best of stories into the ground.
They are, usually because they get to explore what made them popular heroes in the first place.
This is why I prefer AUs and limited runs. There's no driving shit into the ground and ruining it due to being too little butter spread over too much bread. Like, take a look at the MCU; it was great when it started out and had a relatively well defined scope, but then it just kept fricking growing, now everybody's tired of it and writers keep making stupid decisions.
I like to see them not risk in reality themselves next time I go see an MCU film not so and I'll be able to do that again I got to get someone to drive me and watch it with me. Shut the first mutant MCU film just affects how normal people see mutants in the MCU?
Reminder you won't see X-men in the MCU until 2025.
Marvel got the Fox-men but that also came with contracts already sign. The contracts say they can't replace the actor (X-men specifically) until the contract runs out. That's why you see Sir Patrick Stewart as professor X, and Evan Peters as quick silver in Wandavision.
It was, but there seem to be a number of people still seething about that twist, and hoping that will get retconned so it really was Fox Quicksilver pretending to be Ralph Boner pretending to be Fox Quicksilver. I don't know why either.
Okay first off that was before butane orgy Island second off Jubilee did not call the little girl a mutant there and number three spoiler alert Jubilee was going through a bad guy's phase.
Bullshit. People don't hate people with superpowers. They hate mutants. Don't try to squirm your mutie ass with the rest of normal people( but with powers).
I remember once Nightcrawler hadd to lie he isn't a mutie but was bitten by a radioactive something so he is blue and the guy bought it.
Okay first off that was before butane orgy Island second off Jubilee did not call the little girl a mutant there and number three spoiler alert Jubilee was going through a bad guy's phase.
It was implied that was a one-time thing like she was regretting it by the end of the comic Arc and MJ was saying she didn't deserve to go to jail with Magneto and Emma.
>Born with powers = mutant
Varies by continuity, but I don't think that's the standard in ANY continuity.
Most mutants aren't born with powers and Marvel's always been fast and loose with the term "power". Not getting into Macbethian pedantry over use of "born", the term "mutant" (in 616 continuity and in any other unless specified) means >born with an unnatural physiology or capacity for the species OR THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THAT PHYSIOLOGY OR CAPACITY
Unnatural as in it can't be a naturally occurring variation in the population.
Physiology as in just having 3 faces or being born with a stinger arm would count.
Capacity means shit like actual powers like eye beams but also being able to innately learn or do shit beyond the bounds of what is natural like master psychic powers (something technically anyone can do) stupidly quickly or have a perfect comprehension of geometry and spatial awareness
The ability to develop means it can active later like your x-gene activating at puberty (assuming x-genes really come from Deviant ancestry which is a whole thing right now because Marvel fricked their continuity) or your Inhuman genes activating when exposed to Terrigen.
Inhuman genes don't activate when exposed to the Terrigen Mists. Inhuman genes are always active, they're why Inhumans respond as they do to Terrigenesis.
I my head Renew Your Vows is canon Spider-man. Frick you.
I genuinely yearn to the times i actually liked and cared about, if not mutants, at least the X-Men
I would read the hell out of an AU X-Men where they were the unequivocal good guys and the whole use-mutants-as-an-anology-for-racism bullshit wasn't a thing.
as most people in the thread already explained mostly everyone tends to come across more sympathetic and hopeful in AUs on account of not being slammed again the sisyphean existence of editorial status quo, that's more or less what made Ultimate more popular before, well you know.
>made Ultimate more popular before, well you know.
Somebody probably got inspired by Warhammer 40K in order to make it Grim Darkness? I never read any Ultimate Universe comics.
Most AUs have better potential than current comics from the big 2. It has been that way for quite a while now. Mainline continuity has so much baggage mixed with bad writers fricking up characterization and continuity that they read like bad AU fan fiction anyway.
According to Hickman's notes, Krakoa was a paradise intended to bring out the worst in the X-men cast so that when things inevitably blow up they re-learn a lesson that no people can be an island unto themselves.
That said, Krakoa looks like it is going to be going on well past Inferno because it sells well and seems to be too interesting a sandbox for writers to play in.
So, yeah, the ethno-?sexual? state X-men is here to stay and with it the moral that segregation wasn't wrong, just that the wrong people were in charge
>According to Hickman's notes, Krakoa was a paradise intended to bring out the worst in the X-men cast so that when things inevitably blow up they re-learn a lesson that no people can be an island unto themselves.
Ah-ha! There's finally been a release on this front. Where did this come out, where can I read it?
I miss RYV so much. If editorial is so hell bent on making Peter be a fricking miserable loser in the main series at least give as an AU where he's happy
RYV Peter got off better than MC2 Peter at least. He only got cancelled, instead of being cancelled, killed, then resurrected as the other for shitty event bait.
I just realised that thread might be picked up now and that nothing good will come of it.
Also it is a pretty decent AU that sadly got the usual multiverse story that it seems every Au is obligated to participate in even if it makes no sense and makes for a shitty arc.
By virtue of not being subjected to dumb editorial rules and writers/fans who seek to retread the best of stories into the ground.
They are, usually because they get to explore what made them popular heroes in the first place.
Probably explains why I like the X-Men cartoons and movies when I see them but they just seem to be Pricks in the main comics.
This is why I prefer AUs and limited runs. There's no driving shit into the ground and ruining it due to being too little butter spread over too much bread. Like, take a look at the MCU; it was great when it started out and had a relatively well defined scope, but then it just kept fricking growing, now everybody's tired of it and writers keep making stupid decisions.
I like to see them not risk in reality themselves next time I go see an MCU film not so and I'll be able to do that again I got to get someone to drive me and watch it with me. Shut the first mutant MCU film just affects how normal people see mutants in the MCU?
Reminder you won't see X-men in the MCU until 2025.
Marvel got the Fox-men but that also came with contracts already sign. The contracts say they can't replace the actor (X-men specifically) until the contract runs out. That's why you see Sir Patrick Stewart as professor X, and Evan Peters as quick silver in Wandavision.
>Evan Peters as quick silver in Wandavision.
wasn't that red herring?
It was, but there seem to be a number of people still seething about that twist, and hoping that will get retconned so it really was Fox Quicksilver pretending to be Ralph Boner pretending to be Fox Quicksilver. I don't know why either.
So? That was still Evan Peters playing Quicksilver.
What book is OP from?
Spider-Man renew your vows. The female Spider is Mary Jane and the kid is their daughter.
That's her superhero name not a mutant name she's not a mutant.
Not according to the groomer cult that wants to recruit her
Okay first off that was before butane orgy Island second off Jubilee did not call the little girl a mutant there and number three spoiler alert Jubilee was going through a bad guy's phase.
Xavier was looking to recruit her for the school, as well as Magneto who called her a mutant
Bullshit. People don't hate people with superpowers. They hate mutants. Don't try to squirm your mutie ass with the rest of normal people( but with powers).
I remember once Nightcrawler hadd to lie he isn't a mutie but was bitten by a radioactive something so he is blue and the guy bought it.
We just hate genetic freaks
>We just hate genetic freaks
Speak for yourself Muttoid.
Holy shit, what's with this amateur hour on MJ face in the first panel?
>"This school is safe space"
She said about the building that is attacked every two weeks by world ending villians.
Considering how much less the X-Men behave like buttholes in that universe is probably more than five times as safe as in 616.
What's the worst that could happen? The kids get nailed to a cross by racists or something?
"Hey kid, is your life good?"
"Yes!"
"No it's not. It frickin sucks, and it will only get better if you come to us. Also you must suck Xaviers dick."
See.
Remember Jubilee is a traitor in this AU.
It was implied that was a one-time thing like she was regretting it by the end of the comic Arc and MJ was saying she didn't deserve to go to jail with Magneto and Emma.
Regretting it doesn't erase the fact she did it.
Let's just be grateful that we got a comic where MJ beats up Magneto and Emma
Born with powers = mutant. Editorial just wants to have an IP distinction so the daughter doens't fall into X-Flavored shenanigans.
>Born with powers = mutant
Varies by continuity, but I don't think that's the standard in ANY continuity.
Most mutants aren't born with powers and Marvel's always been fast and loose with the term "power". Not getting into Macbethian pedantry over use of "born", the term "mutant" (in 616 continuity and in any other unless specified) means
>born with an unnatural physiology or capacity for the species OR THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THAT PHYSIOLOGY OR CAPACITY
Unnatural as in it can't be a naturally occurring variation in the population.
Physiology as in just having 3 faces or being born with a stinger arm would count.
Capacity means shit like actual powers like eye beams but also being able to innately learn or do shit beyond the bounds of what is natural like master psychic powers (something technically anyone can do) stupidly quickly or have a perfect comprehension of geometry and spatial awareness
The ability to develop means it can active later like your x-gene activating at puberty (assuming x-genes really come from Deviant ancestry which is a whole thing right now because Marvel fricked their continuity) or your Inhuman genes activating when exposed to Terrigen.
Inhuman genes don't activate when exposed to the Terrigen Mists. Inhuman genes are always active, they're why Inhumans respond as they do to Terrigenesis.
>calling Peter by his name but his daughter by her mutant name
Indoctrination cult
Frick off RYV gay
You're obsessed about a minor thing that happened in the comics to make Cyclops say good Professor X is human.
I my head Renew Your Vows is canon Spider-man. Frick you.
I would read the hell out of an AU X-Men where they were the unequivocal good guys and the whole use-mutants-as-an-anology-for-racism bullshit wasn't a thing.
I genuinely yearn to the times i actually liked and cared about, if not mutants, at least the X-Men
as most people in the thread already explained mostly everyone tends to come across more sympathetic and hopeful in AUs on account of not being slammed again the sisyphean existence of editorial status quo, that's more or less what made Ultimate more popular before, well you know.
>made Ultimate more popular before, well you know.
Somebody probably got inspired by Warhammer 40K in order to make it Grim Darkness? I never read any Ultimate Universe comics.
Most AUs have better potential than current comics from the big 2. It has been that way for quite a while now. Mainline continuity has so much baggage mixed with bad writers fricking up characterization and continuity that they read like bad AU fan fiction anyway.
>cuckshit
fricking have a nice day
See
I said it once and I'll say it again.
According to Hickman's notes, Krakoa was a paradise intended to bring out the worst in the X-men cast so that when things inevitably blow up they re-learn a lesson that no people can be an island unto themselves.
That said, Krakoa looks like it is going to be going on well past Inferno because it sells well and seems to be too interesting a sandbox for writers to play in.
So, yeah, the ethno-?sexual? state X-men is here to stay and with it the moral that segregation wasn't wrong, just that the wrong people were in charge
>According to Hickman's notes, Krakoa was a paradise intended to bring out the worst in the X-men cast so that when things inevitably blow up they re-learn a lesson that no people can be an island unto themselves.
Ah-ha! There's finally been a release on this front. Where did this come out, where can I read it?
Go on?
Whats the current status on Weimartoa anyway?
Moira wants to cure/kill everyone there, and is going to attempt something at the upcoming Hellfire Gala while disguised as Mary Jane.
Inshallah the day of reckoning for mutie scum will soon arrive.
Not in RYV AU.
Bring back Mayday.
I miss RYV so much. If editorial is so hell bent on making Peter be a fricking miserable loser in the main series at least give as an AU where he's happy
Peter was given two AUs and Marvel systematically destroyed both of them because they rule that he's NEVER allowed to be happy.
RYV Peter got off better than MC2 Peter at least. He only got cancelled, instead of being cancelled, killed, then resurrected as the other for shitty event bait.
I just realised that thread might be picked up now and that nothing good will come of it.
What is that one poster's obsession with this story.
To my knowledge it was the last time when the X-Men were unambiguously heroes, and Magneto and his brotherhood were unambiguously villains.
Also it is a pretty decent AU that sadly got the usual multiverse story that it seems every Au is obligated to participate in even if it makes no sense and makes for a shitty arc.
frick off cuck