they are like little saurons, they corrupt the objectively beautiful, it's in their nature and they lash out in rage if you don't like it in an effort to make them seem like the victims
He's entitled to his opinion just like you, it's what creates discussion and the flourishing of new ideas.
The fact that you lash out as a result is very telling of your general character.
>My question is why are they making shows from books they hate >books
Tell us all very specifically which books they have the rights to and which were used as source material for the first season of their show.
And you didn't even read the gaslighting they did after the fact, you know, of changing 7 characters of color, same with the background and backstory. She did everything she said she wasn't going to do because she had "Integrity" as a writer
Reminds me of how the Wheel of Time showrunner keeps pretending he's such a "super fan" of the books yet the show is the absolute antithesis of everything the books are about.
Well of course, you have to lie to the actual readers to gain their trust and hope they have sunk cost fallacy and stay to the end of the show. Most of this stuff gets greenlighted because it's brand recognition, on their own it would fall flat because it's shit
it boggles my mind that they fricked up hard enough for Sanderson to revoke his blessings.
He was willing to endorse the show after that awful pilot episode, and they managed to drop the bar even lower and scare him away
He decided getting his own books adapted wasn't worth this.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, he had immense financial incentive to smile and nod. He would have accepted so much, looked the other way on so many things... and they managed to overstep too far for him to continue down that road. incredible.
I still think Sanderson is a coward for not actively speaking out against the show and warning the fans of the books more, but I guess he really wants that Amazon adaptation for his own books.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the finale was so bad the he has denounced the series and removed any involvement. like
He decided getting his own books adapted wasn't worth this.
said, it wasn't worth it any longer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe I missed it, but what exactly did he say? All I remember is some vague "I'm not involved in the show any longer so you shouldn't ask me about it but I'm sure they are doing their best" -stuff.
11 months ago
Anonymous
his whole live watch stream of the finale was hilarious but I can't find a recording.
I think he deleted a few tweets as well. I wonder if he was breaching a contract and the lawyer goons were sent after him.
There's some recent news about him shitting on Audible but none of it even mentions that he's previously worked with Amazon on WoT.
fricking internet does better at hiding information than presenting it these days
11 months ago
Anonymous
>his whole live watch stream of the finale was hilarious but I can't find a recording
Watching his face slowly break from a genuinely empty smile to completely impassive and then twist into disgust and active revulsion is a fascinating progression.
11 months ago
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>I still think Sanderson is a coward for not actively speaking out against the show and warning the fans of the books more
He literally did. He was polite and Mormon about it but he absolutely talked about not liking it and various issues he had.
I was surprised and thought he somehow got out of an NDA or something. He was super casual about it.
You realize money doesn't matter to them, right? Diversity bailouts from Soros and Larry Fink are a thing and keep these globohomosexual pushers alive.
This actually makes me feel pretty good. Usually I feel impotent when faced with things like the LotR series: there's nothing I can do to get back at the studio or the actors, it feels like there is nothing I can do but seethe. They get to trample on things I enjoy for fun and I am too powerless to strike back in even the smallest way.
But here is hard proof that I can hurt them back, that they can be forced to suffer for deliberately spitting in my eye. They receive misery and psychic damage for doing it. Lol! Frick you!
But it was "chuds" though, because anyone who isn't with them is a chud, it just so happens than they clump together normal people and chuds
11 months ago
Anonymous
>During an appearance on this week’s “Just for Variety” podcast, the actor tells me that an on-set therapist was on hand to offer help after the show received racist backlash against its inclusive and diverse casting. “You need support when this happens because the voices are so loud and they’re coming at you from so many places,” Córdova says.
the actors think chuds did this
11 months ago
Anonymous
Rediculous, I barely use the N word when complaining about this show
11 months ago
Anonymous
Who did then?
11 months ago
Anonymous
the bizzaro-jews
11 months ago
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>chuds did this! >>wow, those chuds must be powerful >i-i mean not the chuds!
>But here is hard proof that I can hurt them back, that they can be forced to suffer for deliberately spitting in my eye. They receive misery and psychic damage for doing it. Lol! Frick you!
While it is certainly satisfying, you need to remember that it is only possible in the first place because the staff are so ridiculously infantile that we may as well be trying to make toddlers cry. There's no real sport in it because it doesn't take much effort to achieve this result. If trolling is a art, trolling modern day Hollywood would be akin to finger painting.
That being said, they fricking deserve it for being such smug c**ts.
it's only a matter of time before someone kills themselves over fan backlash, and then the chastising about the terrible effects of criticizing anything will get 10x worse
Literally no one cares what the media has to say anymore. it's just Gen X'ers lying to boomers so the politicians have an excuse to sell our futures to already wealthy israelites.
Everyone under the age of 35 has completely checked out. They aren't coming back, the collapse of the capitalist economic system will happen first.
We are witnessing the collapse of Hollywood in slow motion. Because it is in slow motion, people think it is not collapsing but it is. When you have this much built up bad-will against your audience, how do you even recover? You can't. It's not about money, because no amount of money you throw at a production is going to make it better if you're not coming from a place of passion and respect of the source material you are adapting.
>the book >the homosexual son
why would I care if I have 3 beautiful movies that are regarded as the peak of cinema fantasy
Why would you dilute your opinion not taking ONLY the films as a metric
11 months ago
Anonymous
The homosexual son, as you put it, has released a ton of the legendarium we wouldn't have without him.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>kid round up his father's work >"Huh, I got like more stuff, give me money"
That's literally backyard sale behavior
Should I be grateful like he's fricking Jesus? Really?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I hope you never read any of those extra books then. Don't want to be part of his backyard sale scheme.
11 months ago
Anonymous
never did and probably never will
I'm not a gay teenage girl that giggles when there's more content to consume
>But that's wrong, read the books.
whatever non white exist in the book is stuck in specific regions and there is no black elves, black dwarves or multiethinc hobbits or numenoreans
11 months ago
Anonymous
More or less, but that wasn't the argument being made.
None of the non whites shown in the series exist in the source material.
What do you mean, there were dark hobbits in the source.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>More or less, but that wasn't the argument being made.
og argument was still accurate. One specific exception existing doesn't change the rule. A group of people from south mordor could be travelling through the all white setting and it would be ok (like Freeman in 90s Robin Hood), but that's all. Anything else belong to some other fantasy setting >
None of the non whites shown in the series exist in the source material.
(You) >What do you mean, there were dark hobbits in the source.
Debatable. And they wouldn't be african nor multiethnic
11 months ago
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>og argument was still accurate >There are no black people in LOTR.
Which is not accurate.
>Debatable.
Not debatable, it's in the material.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Source?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King, Book Five, Chapter VI: "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields"
11 months ago
Anonymous
Quote the line that says 'there are totally black people here bro trust me bro'
11 months ago
Anonymous
He's talking about the Half Trols of Harad that in the book are black people
11 months ago
Anonymous
lol no shit, is this guy serious? that doesn't explain magical black people popping out of nowhere as elfs humans and dwarves. No one is arguing there aren't different races and complexions, they're just inserting black actors into white roles
11 months ago
Anonymous
>spoon feed me since I've clearly never read the material I just hate Black folk
>Southrons in scarlet, and out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues
lol no shit, is this guy serious? that doesn't explain magical black people popping out of nowhere as elfs humans and dwarves. No one is arguing there aren't different races and complexions, they're just inserting black actors into white roles
literally wasn't the original argument. it was >There are no black people in LOTR.
11 months ago
Anonymous
no one is arguing that moron, you're just nitpicking
11 months ago
Anonymous
see
There are no black people in LOTR.
Create your own shit, blackwasher
11 months ago
Anonymous
your point? if you want a story about jigaboos make one in harad or somewhere else it actually makes sense to have them be actors
11 months ago
Anonymous
The whole point was you're wrong.
11 months ago
Anonymous
keep ignoring what I'm saying, that looks real good for you
11 months ago
Anonymous
>stop ignoring my attempts at moving the goal posts reeee
I wholly agree they should have it make sense instead of race changing, btw.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>reee make aragorn black *shits pants*
calm down you anti-white homosexual
Have they considered not shitting on source material, not casting people who don't fit the setting, hiring good writers, using good looking people etc... like entertainment used to do when it was watchable and it didn't exist only as a political statement?
>people don't endlessly suck their dicks for some shitty fanfiction show >hours of therapy required to cope
what's funny is that this implies that they thought it was going to be an unbelievable
success that would lead to them being the biggest stars around and that their expectations were betrayed
Imagine needing an on set therapist to guide people through the dark waters of “mean people on the internet.” I can kind of get it if it’s like a circle of friends or an actual community you’re trying to be a part of but you’re constantly rejected from, but random homies saying “I don’t like the show because x and b.” What the hell do you care? Especially if you’re a paid actor.
>During the interview, Ismael Cruz Córdova openly addressed the presence of an on-site therapist, whose primary responsibility was to prioritize the mental health of the cast and crew during the filming process, particularly in response to the negative reactions received regarding the show’s inclusivity.
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/therapists-lord-of-the-rings.html
classic woman moment >oh you think it's shit? well you gave trauma to everyone involved I hope you're happy now you evil person
yes, I am happy about that actually
>spend a gorillion dollars on costumes set pieces and cgi >it all looks like shit anyway >hire literal whos as the writers
billion dollar company indeed
Wealthy people for all the bullshit they spew about being efficient and wise, don't care about spending a billion to save a million.
Good writers are cheap but they would rather produce absolute crap than negotiate with them in good faith. So this is what we get. A giant waste of money that no one likes, all to satisfy the rampaging egos of neoliberals who hate, hate, hate working men and women with talent.
The hate starts at the top.
Wealthy people israeliteing workers out of their wages and benefits will only result in products getting worse. It's a vicious cycle and while it's true the poor will suffer the most, the wealthy will suffer too. To think it's entirely avoidable just by not being a tightwad the likes of which would even make Ebeneezer Scrooge blush.
I don't know why the estate would trust fricking Amazon Prime with a LoTR story. They're only slightly better than fricking Hulu, and HBO had pitched them ideas. Hell they could have told HBO no remake of the trilogy, do a completely new story and they would have nailed it. Look how good they did with HotD and the first half of GoT.
hbo (and their parent company Warner) ain't shit compared to amazon
Also it's not like amazon has exclusive rights to lotr since there is a new movie in the works from another studio
this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself which forces any adaption of the era to be fanfic-tier
the other half is choosing Amazon to produce the fanfic-tier show
there's a SLIGHT chance it would have been better if they had full access to the entire legendarium, not having the rights just cemented the decision to go full fanfic
>this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself
You really think they would do a good job when they couldn't even be bothered to portray with fidelity the few things they had rights to? the fricking Numenor army is 50/50 men and women why the frick would any sane country do that and risk his fricking baby machines in just 1 generation
>this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself
You really think they would do a good job when they couldn't even be bothered to portray with fidelity the few things they had rights to? the fricking Numenor army is 50/50 men and women why the frick would any sane country do that and risk his fricking baby machines in just 1 generation
It was entirely Christopher Tolkien's fault. amazon gave this decrepit skeleton the final say in who gets to write the script. He didn't approve a script, he approved who wrote the script. He was declining a dozen or so people so amazing producers were being told he was being difficult.
Apparently some producers went to Christopher and spoke to him in elvish, and that convinced him that they were true fans.
This is why we have the schizophrenic script we have, because Chris approved the only 2 idiots who actually never wrote a script before.
>People don't like the goyslop I was paid to appear in? >Help me therapy I'm literally going insane!
Jesus Christ, China, just invade us already, you won't face a whiff of resistance until you hit Colorado. We'll give you Texas if you promise to kill the preachers down there.
That skinnyfat, 35 year old, 6/10, welsh hag was the worst of them. Her "acting" was jarring. She acted like she was back home in Cardiff with her amateur theatre. I usually never notice how well someone is acting, but she was just an embarrassment.
for me it's when the citizens of numenor forgot that they envied elves because of their immortality and then started chanting that they wont be replaced because they were worried about their job security
How did fans hate RoP so much when they slept through it?
Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes.
>Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes.
This has been the go to for so much trash these companies have been pumping out lately.
>Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes.
This has been the go to for so much trash these companies have been pumping out lately.
It was the femdom Ghostbusters that started this PR lifehack in earnest, yeah?
>Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes
how many shows/movies have they done this for so far? >The Little Mermaid [IN PROGRESS] >Queen Cleopatra >Strange World >The Witcher >The 355
this has become so blatantly obvious that even normies are starting to notice and make fun of companies that do it
In a way I do kind of feel for actors when this happens. Most of them probably don’t even care about LotR or have a passing interest in it. They just accepted a job at what they perceived as a great opportunity. Most of them are just showing for their job and really don’t give a shit about everything else around the show.
>Córdova has also been open about how badly he wanted to be on the show — so much so that when he wasn’t originally cast, he convinced producers to reconsider. >I knew that I wanted to be part of something historic, especially with the elves. The elves have been historically portrayed as white and Aryan. I wanted to be an elf.
Nah this guy's a homosexual
You know, every single mainstream depiction I've ever seen of George Washington was white. They should do something historic and hire a black actor to play him. In fact, forget hiring an actor! Just grab a random black homeless woman off the street and make her perform the role! It's not very progressive to insist that all actors should actually be actors, after all.
I can't wait for them to try pretending that Neil Armstrong was black. You just know they will eventually, they can't help but try and steal the greatest achievements.
they saved his elf form for the second season for some reason, he already taught the elves how to make the rings in his human form and the elves didn't think it was weird at all that a random human had more knowledge than them
Amazon laying down the groundwork, so that when they cancel the show they can say they're doing it only to protect the actors' mental health from the meanies online.
Frick me, do they have to hire yet another Director of Inclusiveness to make sure the new therapists are half trans and 75% BIPOC (aka black people also acting like they speak for all Latinos and Native Americans).
this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself which forces any adaption of the era to be fanfic-tier
the other half is choosing Amazon to produce the fanfic-tier show
there's a SLIGHT chance it would have been better if they had full access to the entire legendarium, not having the rights just cemented the decision to go full fanfic
Amazon would have fricked it up no matter what rights they had.
they had the best pitch out of the rest of them, it was this or mcu lotr
They could have told HBO no, come up with something better.
Isn't another studio remaking LOTR anyway? God this is so dumb.
There are new LotR movies coming out, but I don't think (hope not) they're remakes.
>They could have told HBO no, come up with something better.
It was netflix that proposed mcu lotr, hbo proposed something like a remake
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/the-rings-of-power-showrunners-interview-season-2-1235233124/
Sure, but you can totally portray it in a way that is not migahats and Trump 2016. That's one of the virtue signalling examples you asked for
Part of the problem with making the show and the time crunch. 0 time spent on explaining the real reason for the hatred. But let's not pretend like protectionism hasn't been a thing for centuries.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Numenorians hated elves because they were jealous of their immortality and felt that the Valar were keeping it from them on purpose, which is what spiraled into the fall of Numenor eventually. The show 100% misrepresented the issue for a lame political allegory.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think they meant to be super political, I think it was just laziness.
>do we, shitty writers who have access to like 2 pages of the lore, try to explain the historical jealousy or do we just be lazy hacks?
Hurr durr maybe Amazon should have made their own show about historical protectionism instead of pushing it in an incredibly embarrassing manner in a show "based" on Tolkien's work.
Take that up with the estate who approved it
11 months ago
Anonymous
They could've just as easily put in a scene that explains the actual reason, it wouldn't have taken that much more effort than the shit they chose to do instead.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They are hacks that couldn't understand their audience could comprehend something like that versus muh jerbs
11 months ago
Anonymous
Hurr durr maybe Amazon should have made their own show about historical protectionism instead of pushing it in an incredibly embarrassing manner in a show "based" on Tolkien's work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you trolling? It wasn't about trades, Numenoreans didn't care about elves taking jobs (not that elves cared about jobs). Your take is not even an oversimplification, is literally something that didn't existed. This is like saying Nazis hated israelites because they had magic powers
11 months ago
Anonymous
No shit. I literally said the time crunch and they spent 0 time on the actual explanation.
Meanwhile, the orcs were explicitly migrants and refugees too - and their presence led to continuous murder and the destruction of the environment.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How were Orcs "explicitly" migrants and refugees if they were literally created in ME?
11 months ago
Anonymous
They were explicitly migrants to the Southlands, which they then despoil and turn into Mordor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But by that explanation, humans and elves were also migrants and refugees. So what point are you making?
11 months ago
Anonymous
?? Did you not watch the show? Don't you remember Adar? The whole motivation for the entire orc faction?
11 months ago
Anonymous
What point are you making? Lore wise, humans and Orcs are native to ME, elves aren't. Humans moved into other areas and took over just like Orcs did.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Who said anything about 'lore wise'? We're talking about in the context of the plot of the show - a show that tossed the lore out the window and tore up and burned whatever was left.
11 months ago
Anonymous
??? this whole thread is shitting on the show for not being lore faithful
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, so why do you now expect this bit to be lore faithful?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Can't shit on orcs for being "migrants and refugees" when elves and humans did the same thing.
what magic spell makes white people black in LOTR
Try reading the source material
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't shit on orcs for being "migrants and refugees" when elves and humans did the same thing.
In the show?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, even in the show their history is they migrated.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not 'history', but 'is actually shown in the show itself' and 'is a plot point'.
11 months ago
Anonymous
as a source material expert I'm asking you what the incantation for the make wypipo into blapipo spell is
11 months ago
Anonymous
>as a source material expert
Then you'd know there were blapipo in the source material
11 months ago
Anonymous
no genius, I'm saying you're the source material expert that seems to know the race changing spell
11 months ago
Anonymous
What race changing spell? There were non-whites in the source material.
11 months ago
Anonymous
None of the non whites shown in the series exist in the source material.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Orcs are tortured elves, therefore if elves aren't from ME, neither are orcs
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Orcs are tortured elves
Not definitive. Even if they are, they are something new created in ME.
WHY THE FRICK DON'T YOU RACIST CHUDS LIKE IT?!? WE HIRED THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND DIVERSE WRITERS EVER TO EXPLORE TOLKINS WORLD IN A NEW EXCITING PERSPECTIVE AND ARE YOU GRATEFUL? FRICKING NO! DO YOU NOT REALISE HOW FRICKING IMPORTANT IT IS FOR WOMEN AND MINORITIES TO HAVE THEIR TURN IN MIDDLE EARTH? YOU FRICKING RACIST WHITE MALE SCUM? THIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR STUPID OLD BOOK! WE ARE WRITING A NEW CHAPTER THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND CULTURED AND BEAUTIFUL
wtf they have vending machines and public toilets on the warehouse floor now???
Man, when I was a stowbot we were lucky if they put new kegs in the water coolers.
Literal Victim Olympics shit. Not winning?
Need to cry harder.
Imagine going through life thinking the way and trying to be the biggest loser who cries when they pushback, instead of actually trying to improve your skillz and not be a homosexual. What a hellish existence. I hope they neck themselves ASAP just out of mercy.
If I drop a deuce in the middle of the street should I get counseling because the people around me hate that I've produced such a foul turd? These snowflakes should toughen up.
None it exists for me, it's just words that people say, amounts to wind passing through. What are the implications of never watching MCU, not participating in the latest video game release? More time to shitpost, to walk around and smell the roses!
>Christopher tolkien dies >the vultures decend
I mean what the frick else did we expect? You had to see this coming for years now if you were a fan of Tolkiens works. Look at that fricking abomination Gollum game they just released. It happened to Star Trek. It happened to Star Wars. Christophers death was the beginning of it happening to us.
Its from israelites trying to make as much money as possible off of an IP as possible before it becomes public domain. At least in this case. Plus with how much money the original trilogy made, it was inevitable that the franchise would become a money farm. Fans didnt always love Christopher, but he genuinely was the one person defending the franchise from countless garbage "adaptions"
He hated Jackson's trilogy. And despite your attempt at being a contrarian, the Jackson trilogy was great and about as good an adaption of the books as we could have asked for.
no fricks given. back when they started co opting studios and displacing people that were better qualified than them these piece of shit would tout that they didn't need anyone appraisal. they would view compliments as a personal attack, can we go back to that please?
Elves aren't immigrants either. They awoke in middle earth, as all children of ilúvatar did. Three big groups of them journeyed west and crossed the ocean to valinor, and then some (mostly noldor) returned to middle earth, which may be what you're talking about as far as immigration goes. But also tons of elves never even left middle earth in the first place. Green elves, sindar, king thingol established the realm of dorthonion, etc.
They ain't, that other anon is moronic. Well sure, they could in the sense being foreign invaders from one kingdom/realm/country to the next. I suppose they immigrated to mordor from the northern lands of beleriand after the war of wrath. But do you really call it immigration when you invade and conquer a land under the pretense of war?
maybe they should have hired better writers instead
fpbp and /thread and also frick Black folk frick women and most importantly frick jannies
and actors
and producers
and costume designers
and editors
Lel
My question is why are they making shows from books they hate
because shut up and watch it if you're not racist
they are like little saurons, they corrupt the objectively beautiful, it's in their nature and they lash out in rage if you don't like it in an effort to make them seem like the victims
that seems vaguely familiar...
>Rings of Power actually a high level metacommentary
woah
the word is allegory and it's exactly the kind of thing tolkien despised
>Rings of Power actually a high level metacommentary
What is anything? I just don't even know anymore...
The Silmarillion isn't beautiful. It's written tediously and is a rather uninteresting tale.
Rings of power isn’t the silmarillion and yes it is beautiful
>It's written tediously and is a rather uninteresting tale.
That's Fellowship of the ring
Only the first half.
Have you actually read the book? The fellowship of the ring is literally the best parts of the book.
Wtf particularly the first half. Hell I would say the story goes down a notch the second they leave Bree.
Yes and the Shire + Tom Bombadil are awful the worst part along Frodo and Sam in Mordor
>the Shire + Tom Bombadil are awful the worst part
absolutely filtered
>Tom Bombadil is... LE BAD!!!!
I swear it has to be the absolute best brainlet filter in existence
Who's a good little edgy contrarian? That's right, you are!
NPC moment
Moron
He's entitled to his opinion just like you, it's what creates discussion and the flourishing of new ideas.
The fact that you lash out as a result is very telling of your general character.
Stfu, imbecile
Morgoth is the corruptor not Sauron
israeli humiliation ritual
>My question is why are they making shows from books they hate
>books
Tell us all very specifically which books they have the rights to and which were used as source material for the first season of their show.
They own the last 7 pages of the appendix from lord of the rings and every you can find at fanficsmut.uk
NTA but pic very much related, she hates the source material and has taken many steps to change as much as she could
Witcher show in case you don't know
Wow, I can actually FEEL the lies in her words hitting my skin via the light of my computer screen. Reading it might literally be giving me cancer.
And you didn't even read the gaslighting they did after the fact, you know, of changing 7 characters of color, same with the background and backstory. She did everything she said she wasn't going to do because she had "Integrity" as a writer
Reminds me of how the Wheel of Time showrunner keeps pretending he's such a "super fan" of the books yet the show is the absolute antithesis of everything the books are about.
Well of course, you have to lie to the actual readers to gain their trust and hope they have sunk cost fallacy and stay to the end of the show. Most of this stuff gets greenlighted because it's brand recognition, on their own it would fall flat because it's shit
it boggles my mind that they fricked up hard enough for Sanderson to revoke his blessings.
He was willing to endorse the show after that awful pilot episode, and they managed to drop the bar even lower and scare him away
He decided getting his own books adapted wasn't worth this.
yeah, he had immense financial incentive to smile and nod. He would have accepted so much, looked the other way on so many things... and they managed to overstep too far for him to continue down that road. incredible.
I still think Sanderson is a coward for not actively speaking out against the show and warning the fans of the books more, but I guess he really wants that Amazon adaptation for his own books.
the finale was so bad the he has denounced the series and removed any involvement. like
said, it wasn't worth it any longer.
Maybe I missed it, but what exactly did he say? All I remember is some vague "I'm not involved in the show any longer so you shouldn't ask me about it but I'm sure they are doing their best" -stuff.
his whole live watch stream of the finale was hilarious but I can't find a recording.
I think he deleted a few tweets as well. I wonder if he was breaching a contract and the lawyer goons were sent after him.
There's some recent news about him shitting on Audible but none of it even mentions that he's previously worked with Amazon on WoT.
fricking internet does better at hiding information than presenting it these days
>his whole live watch stream of the finale was hilarious but I can't find a recording
Watching his face slowly break from a genuinely empty smile to completely impassive and then twist into disgust and active revulsion is a fascinating progression.
>I still think Sanderson is a coward for not actively speaking out against the show and warning the fans of the books more
He literally did. He was polite and Mormon about it but he absolutely talked about not liking it and various issues he had.
I was surprised and thought he somehow got out of an NDA or something. He was super casual about it.
>shows
>plural
Anon is talking about the trend rather than the specific case of rope and Amazon
To "fix" them.
not until they an hero in Minecraft
I'll only be truly happy once this shitshow is cancelled. But this isn't a bad start.
Wtf I thought it did well and everyone loved it?!?!?!
The town rapist assured me that it was a hit!
tell me about the town rapist
You are aware of the designated shitting street, yes?
He is the one who loosens everyone up while they travel there
He was a the rapist
Another billion dollars well spent ROP xisters...
You realize money doesn't matter to them, right? Diversity bailouts from Soros and Larry Fink are a thing and keep these globohomosexual pushers alive.
Go broke, go woke.
A company can’t be sustained relying on bailouts. They have to actually make a profit. Plus, those “bailouts” aren’t even actual money.
>A company can’t be sustained relying on bailouts.
homie that's half the economy
>A company can’t be sustained relying on bailouts
Lol. Lmao even
This actually makes me feel pretty good. Usually I feel impotent when faced with things like the LotR series: there's nothing I can do to get back at the studio or the actors, it feels like there is nothing I can do but seethe. They get to trample on things I enjoy for fun and I am too powerless to strike back in even the smallest way.
But here is hard proof that I can hurt them back, that they can be forced to suffer for deliberately spitting in my eye. They receive misery and psychic damage for doing it. Lol! Frick you!
nah all u have is still impotent nerd rage
>chuds destroyed bud light
>chuds are destroying target
>chuds have mindbroken the RoP cast
total chud victory on every front
the market power of all 5 /misc/cels sure is intimidating
>5 people forced amazon to hire therapists for its cast
holy shit imagine if there were 10 of them
>the market power of all 5 /misc/cels sure is intimidating
how can five people destroy so many brands and companies? they must be immensely powerful
>chuds unrionically tink they did this
kek
But it was "chuds" though, because anyone who isn't with them is a chud, it just so happens than they clump together normal people and chuds
>During an appearance on this week’s “Just for Variety” podcast, the actor tells me that an on-set therapist was on hand to offer help after the show received racist backlash against its inclusive and diverse casting. “You need support when this happens because the voices are so loud and they’re coming at you from so many places,” Córdova says.
the actors think chuds did this
Rediculous, I barely use the N word when complaining about this show
Who did then?
the bizzaro-jews
>chuds did this!
>>wow, those chuds must be powerful
>i-i mean not the chuds!
>5 chuddies are enough to destroy the mental health of amazon
Lmao get reck gg no re
it's clearly not impotent, see
>But here is hard proof that I can hurt them back, that they can be forced to suffer for deliberately spitting in my eye. They receive misery and psychic damage for doing it. Lol! Frick you!
While it is certainly satisfying, you need to remember that it is only possible in the first place because the staff are so ridiculously infantile that we may as well be trying to make toddlers cry. There's no real sport in it because it doesn't take much effort to achieve this result. If trolling is a art, trolling modern day Hollywood would be akin to finger painting.
That being said, they fricking deserve it for being such smug c**ts.
What is a chud, man?
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
IM THE CHUD MAN
It's corperate think tank tier insult for people who aren't Marxists. It's tame by design so that it can't be considered racist or sexist.
>It's corperate think tank tier insult for people who aren't Marxists.
*and are white
It was supposed to be Chode but I fricked up. Sorry.
chad + stud
i thought it was
chaff + dud
An ancient Estonian tribe that was defeated by Yaroslav I the Wise, slayer of Chuds.
>chuds established russia
oh my god putler is leading the legion of bigots against trans NATO
>Transgender Americans
>curing deadly diseases
at least he got something right
>trannies shape america's soul
Well, at least he got that right.
cute, handsome, underappreciated dude
a featherless incel.
IT'S A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS
why do fans think the cast is to blame when it's the writers and producers at fault? are they low IQ?
Maybe because fans saw the interviews with the cast.
writers are at fault but Blacklas isn't exactly innocent, he drank the koolaid and started pushing for the latinx representation garbage
>make a bad product and hire expensive therapists to talk to the crybaby milennial cast instead of just making a good product
Dear God is this really the future of Hollywood?
it's only a matter of time before someone kills themselves over fan backlash, and then the chastising about the terrible effects of criticizing anything will get 10x worse
Literally no one cares what the media has to say anymore. it's just Gen X'ers lying to boomers so the politicians have an excuse to sell our futures to already wealthy israelites.
Everyone under the age of 35 has completely checked out. They aren't coming back, the collapse of the capitalist economic system will happen first.
>someone kills themselves over fan backlash
this happens so much in korea/japan that it's literally a trope in their movies/tv shows now.
The final stages of the culture war. And the western civilization, while we're at it.
We are witnessing the collapse of Hollywood in slow motion. Because it is in slow motion, people think it is not collapsing but it is. When you have this much built up bad-will against your audience, how do you even recover? You can't. It's not about money, because no amount of money you throw at a production is going to make it better if you're not coming from a place of passion and respect of the source material you are adapting.
>not coming from a place of passion and respect of the source material you are adapting.
we get it, you hate black people
You are creating extremists in your head that don't exist
Negative. I exist. He's just targeting other people when going after us.
quacks like a duck
There are no black people in LOTR.
Create your own shit, blackwasher
But that's wrong, read the books.
Christopher hated the trilogy.
what magic spell makes white people black in LOTR
>the book
>the homosexual son
why would I care if I have 3 beautiful movies that are regarded as the peak of cinema fantasy
Why would you dilute your opinion not taking ONLY the films as a metric
The homosexual son, as you put it, has released a ton of the legendarium we wouldn't have without him.
>kid round up his father's work
>"Huh, I got like more stuff, give me money"
That's literally backyard sale behavior
Should I be grateful like he's fricking Jesus? Really?
I hope you never read any of those extra books then. Don't want to be part of his backyard sale scheme.
never did and probably never will
I'm not a gay teenage girl that giggles when there's more content to consume
Dumbass
Honestly yeah.
>But that's wrong, read the books.
whatever non white exist in the book is stuck in specific regions and there is no black elves, black dwarves or multiethinc hobbits or numenoreans
More or less, but that wasn't the argument being made.
What do you mean, there were dark hobbits in the source.
>More or less, but that wasn't the argument being made.
og argument was still accurate. One specific exception existing doesn't change the rule. A group of people from south mordor could be travelling through the all white setting and it would be ok (like Freeman in 90s Robin Hood), but that's all. Anything else belong to some other fantasy setting
>
(You)
>What do you mean, there were dark hobbits in the source.
Debatable. And they wouldn't be african nor multiethnic
>og argument was still accurate
>There are no black people in LOTR.
Which is not accurate.
>Debatable.
Not debatable, it's in the material.
Source?
The Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King, Book Five, Chapter VI: "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields"
Quote the line that says 'there are totally black people here bro trust me bro'
He's talking about the Half Trols of Harad that in the book are black people
lol no shit, is this guy serious? that doesn't explain magical black people popping out of nowhere as elfs humans and dwarves. No one is arguing there aren't different races and complexions, they're just inserting black actors into white roles
>spoon feed me since I've clearly never read the material I just hate Black folk
>Southrons in scarlet, and out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues
literally wasn't the original argument. it was
>There are no black people in LOTR.
no one is arguing that moron, you're just nitpicking
see
your point? if you want a story about jigaboos make one in harad or somewhere else it actually makes sense to have them be actors
The whole point was you're wrong.
keep ignoring what I'm saying, that looks real good for you
>stop ignoring my attempts at moving the goal posts reeee
I wholly agree they should have it make sense instead of race changing, btw.
>reee make aragorn black *shits pants*
calm down you anti-white homosexual
>noooo stop proving me wrong
>*creates strawman*
Don't @ me again
We're running outta white people to cast eventually.
They didn't considering hiring decent writers to write better material for the cast?
Have they considered not shitting on source material, not casting people who don't fit the setting, hiring good writers, using good looking people etc... like entertainment used to do when it was watchable and it didn't exist only as a political statement?
I gess they didn't...
aaaand another random opinion nobody asked for.
Yeah so shut the frick up you disgusting imp
thanks for your unsolicited opinion about opinions
Truth doesn't need to be asked for. It just IS.
You and your people are the product of unpopular demand
Imagine milking amazon money this hard. Everyone involved should rope themselves
>people don't endlessly suck their dicks for some shitty fanfiction show
>hours of therapy required to cope
what's funny is that this implies that they thought it was going to be an unbelievable
success that would lead to them being the biggest stars around and that their expectations were betrayed
He right tho
dudes a gay black rapper zoomer and has more sense than 99% of what you see on twitter
Imagine needing an on set therapist to guide people through the dark waters of “mean people on the internet.” I can kind of get it if it’s like a circle of friends or an actual community you’re trying to be a part of but you’re constantly rejected from, but random homies saying “I don’t like the show because x and b.” What the hell do you care? Especially if you’re a paid actor.
Why didn't they just make a good show instead? That would have saved them a lot of money.
Anyone who worked on that show should be publicly flogged
lmfao
I refuse to believe this is real
>During the interview, Ismael Cruz Córdova openly addressed the presence of an on-site therapist, whose primary responsibility was to prioritize the mental health of the cast and crew during the filming process, particularly in response to the negative reactions received regarding the show’s inclusivity.
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/therapists-lord-of-the-rings.html
>Ismael Cruz Córdova
this zesty homie would cry about being bullied. bet black twitter had a field day with him
classic woman moment
>oh you think it's shit? well you gave trauma to everyone involved I hope you're happy now you evil person
yes, I am happy about that actually
https://screenrant.com/lotr-rings-of-power-racist-backlash-cast-therapist/
Chuddies 1
Amazon 0
the blanket and pillow were bought from amazon btw
Literally me.
Weak ass homosexuals.
>libtards make trash
>libtards get triggered when people don't consume their trash
These people are pathetic
What do you even say as a therapist?
>it’s not your fault the show fricking sucks anon
>won’t hire good writers
>will hire therapists for the bad writers
Billion dollar company at work here
>spend a gorillion dollars on costumes set pieces and cgi
>it all looks like shit anyway
>hire literal whos as the writers
billion dollar company indeed
The orcs looked pretty good
No, not really. They had the blueprints from Peter Jackson's films, yet somehow they managed to make them considerably worse.
And how did they look worse? I don't remember seeing anything really wrong with them
Don't worry. Esl money paid for it therefore your tax money and work paid for it. Mr shekelstein sends his regards.
Wealthy people for all the bullshit they spew about being efficient and wise, don't care about spending a billion to save a million.
Good writers are cheap but they would rather produce absolute crap than negotiate with them in good faith. So this is what we get. A giant waste of money that no one likes, all to satisfy the rampaging egos of neoliberals who hate, hate, hate working men and women with talent.
You can't hire good writers who are also politically reliable. The system has chased away anyone who isn't a sycophantic shabbos goy
>and everyone clapped
I should not have THIS much power...
nice sneakers bro
>only interesting part was the sexual tension between rat b***h and sauron
>she doesn’t join him in the end
well then
Maybe they should have hired competent showrunners, or even good ones, and not low iq amateurs. That would have been a decent start.
Honestly, it wasn't that bad. I waited so long to watch it and when I finally did I liked it. No where near as good as it could've been though.
Keep posting hate bros, it's working
The hate starts at the top.
Wealthy people israeliteing workers out of their wages and benefits will only result in products getting worse. It's a vicious cycle and while it's true the poor will suffer the most, the wealthy will suffer too. To think it's entirely avoidable just by not being a tightwad the likes of which would even make Ebeneezer Scrooge blush.
The production itself is hate motivated
why are leftards so weak?
I don't know why the estate would trust fricking Amazon Prime with a LoTR story. They're only slightly better than fricking Hulu, and HBO had pitched them ideas. Hell they could have told HBO no remake of the trilogy, do a completely new story and they would have nailed it. Look how good they did with HotD and the first half of GoT.
>I don't know why the estate would trust fricking Amazon Prime with a LoTR story
Money
Fat stacks
Moolah
Cash
Dinero
Bakshish
Like HBO wouldn't shell out enough for a LotR show. It has to be more than that.
hbo (and their parent company Warner) ain't shit compared to amazon
Also it's not like amazon has exclusive rights to lotr since there is a new movie in the works from another studio
It's the fans fault for using copyrighted images of Tolkien without paying them.
this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself which forces any adaption of the era to be fanfic-tier
the other half is choosing Amazon to produce the fanfic-tier show
there's a SLIGHT chance it would have been better if they had full access to the entire legendarium, not having the rights just cemented the decision to go full fanfic
>not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion
doesn't someone else already own them? Disney I think
>this is entirely the estate's fault
half of it for not offering adaptation rights to the Silmarillion itself
You really think they would do a good job when they couldn't even be bothered to portray with fidelity the few things they had rights to? the fricking Numenor army is 50/50 men and women why the frick would any sane country do that and risk his fricking baby machines in just 1 generation
It was entirely Christopher Tolkien's fault. amazon gave this decrepit skeleton the final say in who gets to write the script. He didn't approve a script, he approved who wrote the script. He was declining a dozen or so people so amazing producers were being told he was being difficult.
Apparently some producers went to Christopher and spoke to him in elvish, and that convinced him that they were true fans.
This is why we have the schizophrenic script we have, because Chris approved the only 2 idiots who actually never wrote a script before.
Didn't he have say, then he died, then they fired all the lore-conscious people attached to the project?
they had the best pitch out of the rest of them, it was this or mcu lotr
Isn't another studio remaking LOTR anyway? God this is so dumb.
Christopher was the only one preventing his father's legacy from getting raped. Now that he's dead, it's just a cash grab.
hope they all ROPE
>People don't like the goyslop I was paid to appear in?
>Help me therapy I'm literally going insane!
Jesus Christ, China, just invade us already, you won't face a whiff of resistance until you hit Colorado. We'll give you Texas if you promise to kill the preachers down there.
They can see their careers crumbling after the high hopes they had
That skinnyfat, 35 year old, 6/10, welsh hag was the worst of them. Her "acting" was jarring. She acted like she was back home in Cardiff with her amateur theatre. I usually never notice how well someone is acting, but she was just an embarrassment.
texas would solo china
I feel so guilty now. I should watch it and leave 5 star review with apology.
for me it's when the citizens of numenor forgot that they envied elves because of their immortality and then started chanting that they wont be replaced because they were worried about their job security
How did fans hate RoP so much when they slept through it?
Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes.
>Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes.
This has been the go to for so much trash these companies have been pumping out lately.
It's easy PR, haters do their work for them
It was the femdom Ghostbusters that started this PR lifehack in earnest, yeah?
anon i'm in love with Rhaneyra and I thought you should know. Are you the anon who drops the high res pics in the HOTD threads too?
>Seems the Tolkien / Amazon PR are angling for the "incels & WASPs bombed our show" excuse and clawing for those sympathy dimes
how many shows/movies have they done this for so far?
>The Little Mermaid [IN PROGRESS]
>Queen Cleopatra
>Strange World
>The Witcher
>The 355
this has become so blatantly obvious that even normies are starting to notice and make fun of companies that do it
Wheel of time
CW Batwoman
Willow
Srly, which show doesn't do that now?
Pretty much. Hell, Disney did this preemptively with Kenobi.
>how many shows/movies have they done this for so far?
I did a quick look of movies released in 2015 vs 2016. It's def 2016 when shit went nuts.
Can't believe TND will be achieved without a single bullet
In a way I do kind of feel for actors when this happens. Most of them probably don’t even care about LotR or have a passing interest in it. They just accepted a job at what they perceived as a great opportunity. Most of them are just showing for their job and really don’t give a shit about everything else around the show.
>Córdova has also been open about how badly he wanted to be on the show — so much so that when he wasn’t originally cast, he convinced producers to reconsider.
>I knew that I wanted to be part of something historic, especially with the elves. The elves have been historically portrayed as white and Aryan. I wanted to be an elf.
Nah this guy's a homosexual
KWAB, yeah you got me. I didn’t know that.
You know, every single mainstream depiction I've ever seen of George Washington was white. They should do something historic and hire a black actor to play him. In fact, forget hiring an actor! Just grab a random black homeless woman off the street and make her perform the role! It's not very progressive to insist that all actors should actually be actors, after all.
Cleopatra? frick they're teaching on schools that she was a kween, a sistah
Anne Boleyn?
Just give them time
I can't wait for them to try pretending that Neil Armstrong was black. You just know they will eventually, they can't help but try and steal the greatest achievements.
I mean, Whites can't jump, and Neil Armstrong made a big jump into the stars. Come on, even Armstrong is a black surname.
Stay woke brother.
>Lord of the Rings cast
But that came out 20 years ago
My roundtable could have fixed the actors.
>wheel of time
>lord of the rings
>fallout next
why is amazon doing this to me
Demoralisation
I didn't watch this show because I heard Sauron debases himself into taking a human shape, instead of being a hauntingly beautiful femboy maia.
they saved his elf form for the second season for some reason, he already taught the elves how to make the rings in his human form and the elves didn't think it was weird at all that a random human had more knowledge than them
i hate this show so much bros
>celebrimbor
>the most famous elven metalsmith of all time, past and present
>has been smithing for centuries
OMG YOU CAN BLEND TWO METALS TOGETHER???
was celebrimbor isekai-d canonically? this seems like i invented onions sauce tier writing
Need therapists for people that watched the show.
they hired the rapists?
Chudbros, we can win.
>here's the guy that plays your legendary warrior bro
>w-why is he crying
>people were being meanies online
Anyone who goes to ~~*therapy*~~ deserves it.
Amazon laying down the groundwork, so that when they cancel the show they can say they're doing it only to protect the actors' mental health from the meanies online.
Frick me, do they have to hire yet another Director of Inclusiveness to make sure the new therapists are half trans and 75% BIPOC (aka black people also acting like they speak for all Latinos and Native Americans).
overall, yes i am very happy. this however gives me no joy because it reflects the oversensitive and overemotionalized state of western society.
basado
KEK. Mistaking Lord of the rings with rings of power.
i clapped when halbrand put on a black cloak after revealing himself to be sauron when he teleported to mount doom
And with the PowerPoint text transition.
Amazon would have fricked it up no matter what rights they had.
They could have told HBO no, come up with something better.
There are new LotR movies coming out, but I don't think (hope not) they're remakes.
>They could have told HBO no, come up with something better.
It was netflix that proposed mcu lotr, hbo proposed something like a remake
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/the-rings-of-power-showrunners-interview-season-2-1235233124/
remake got shut down by tolkien estate - that's why they had to go for the other books.
Shame that HBO just gave up after that pitch. Maybe they knew they couldn't get the rights to good source material and the show would be shit?
>why didn't hardcore fans accept our bad fanfic?
it'll forever be a mystery
>doesn't say "Rings Of Power" cast
dumb clickbait title
Well they made a piece of shit product so they can get fricked.
They made it out of a spiteful hatred of Whites
Maybe they should stop making stupid virtue signaling shit. It's not the actors' fault that they can't write a good movie.
Besides Blacklas, what was the virtue signaling? Galadriel is extremely flawed, but people only want to see "they wrote her as muh stronk woman"
>THEIR TAKIN ER JERBS!!!!
Those damn Numechuds building walls and keeping poor elferinos out of their borders
Numenoreans did hate elves, though.
But not for something as trivial as jobs.
Part of the problem with making the show and the time crunch. 0 time spent on explaining the real reason for the hatred. But let's not pretend like protectionism hasn't been a thing for centuries.
Numenorians hated elves because they were jealous of their immortality and felt that the Valar were keeping it from them on purpose, which is what spiraled into the fall of Numenor eventually. The show 100% misrepresented the issue for a lame political allegory.
I don't think they meant to be super political, I think it was just laziness.
>do we, shitty writers who have access to like 2 pages of the lore, try to explain the historical jealousy or do we just be lazy hacks?
Take that up with the estate who approved it
They could've just as easily put in a scene that explains the actual reason, it wouldn't have taken that much more effort than the shit they chose to do instead.
They are hacks that couldn't understand their audience could comprehend something like that versus muh jerbs
Hurr durr maybe Amazon should have made their own show about historical protectionism instead of pushing it in an incredibly embarrassing manner in a show "based" on Tolkien's work.
Are you trolling? It wasn't about trades, Numenoreans didn't care about elves taking jobs (not that elves cared about jobs). Your take is not even an oversimplification, is literally something that didn't existed. This is like saying Nazis hated israelites because they had magic powers
No shit. I literally said the time crunch and they spent 0 time on the actual explanation.
Sure, but you can totally portray it in a way that is not migahats and Trump 2016. That's one of the virtue signalling examples you asked for
Meanwhile, the orcs were explicitly migrants and refugees too - and their presence led to continuous murder and the destruction of the environment.
How were Orcs "explicitly" migrants and refugees if they were literally created in ME?
They were explicitly migrants to the Southlands, which they then despoil and turn into Mordor.
But by that explanation, humans and elves were also migrants and refugees. So what point are you making?
?? Did you not watch the show? Don't you remember Adar? The whole motivation for the entire orc faction?
What point are you making? Lore wise, humans and Orcs are native to ME, elves aren't. Humans moved into other areas and took over just like Orcs did.
Who said anything about 'lore wise'? We're talking about in the context of the plot of the show - a show that tossed the lore out the window and tore up and burned whatever was left.
??? this whole thread is shitting on the show for not being lore faithful
Yes, so why do you now expect this bit to be lore faithful?
Can't shit on orcs for being "migrants and refugees" when elves and humans did the same thing.
Try reading the source material
>Can't shit on orcs for being "migrants and refugees" when elves and humans did the same thing.
In the show?
Yes, even in the show their history is they migrated.
Not 'history', but 'is actually shown in the show itself' and 'is a plot point'.
as a source material expert I'm asking you what the incantation for the make wypipo into blapipo spell is
>as a source material expert
Then you'd know there were blapipo in the source material
no genius, I'm saying you're the source material expert that seems to know the race changing spell
What race changing spell? There were non-whites in the source material.
None of the non whites shown in the series exist in the source material.
Orcs are tortured elves, therefore if elves aren't from ME, neither are orcs
>Orcs are tortured elves
Not definitive. Even if they are, they are something new created in ME.
>Besides virtue signaling what was the virtue signaling?
moron
WHY THE FRICK DON'T YOU RACIST CHUDS LIKE IT?!? WE HIRED THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND DIVERSE WRITERS EVER TO EXPLORE TOLKINS WORLD IN A NEW EXCITING PERSPECTIVE AND ARE YOU GRATEFUL? FRICKING NO! DO YOU NOT REALISE HOW FRICKING IMPORTANT IT IS FOR WOMEN AND MINORITIES TO HAVE THEIR TURN IN MIDDLE EARTH? YOU FRICKING RACIST WHITE MALE SCUM? THIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR STUPID OLD BOOK! WE ARE WRITING A NEW CHAPTER THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND CULTURED AND BEAUTIFUL
>amazon therapy
I bet people keep going to have a wank in these.
wtf they have vending machines and public toilets on the warehouse floor now???
Man, when I was a stowbot we were lucky if they put new kegs in the water coolers.
that's not a toilet, that's a masturbatorium
Futurama did it
Literal Victim Olympics shit. Not winning?
Need to cry harder.
Imagine going through life thinking the way and trying to be the biggest loser who cries when they pushback, instead of actually trying to improve your skillz and not be a homosexual. What a hellish existence. I hope they neck themselves ASAP just out of mercy.
GOOD
If I drop a deuce in the middle of the street should I get counseling because the people around me hate that I've produced such a foul turd? These snowflakes should toughen up.
The solution to all their problems is the easiest shit ever but they don't even contemplate it.
Just stop being woke, morons
Yes
Damn, really? Needing therapy for being In a shit production? I see a therapist twice a week myself because I'm crazy and fricked in the head!
Even the superfans?
What do you think was the budget for telling people to like it? Because that was everywhere.
LAWWD DEM RANGZ
>Are you chuds happy with yourselves
Evil cannot create, it can only pay for therapy
Actually my employer pays for it.
It’s a start.
ZERO sympathy of any kind for snowflakes. If you can't handle criticism you're beneath normal people
The orcs actually looked good, it's one of the few things the show did right. I think it was the same team/studio who did lotr and the hobbit orcs.
>hobbit orcs
You mean CGI?
Yeah the main cgi orc sucked dick but there were still quite a few practical orcs with prosthetics and masks. Not as much as lotr of course.
The left truly lost the cultural war.
Complete CHUD victory.
None it exists for me, it's just words that people say, amounts to wind passing through. What are the implications of never watching MCU, not participating in the latest video game release? More time to shitpost, to walk around and smell the roses!
maybe they should read the books to understand the hate they get?
>implying you read the books
Implying he didn't.
twitter troony larpers like you are as bad as the trannies themselves.
>Christopher tolkien dies
>the vultures decend
I mean what the frick else did we expect? You had to see this coming for years now if you were a fan of Tolkiens works. Look at that fricking abomination Gollum game they just released. It happened to Star Trek. It happened to Star Wars. Christophers death was the beginning of it happening to us.
I only learnt about the Gollum game today and don't want to look it up. What's it about?
Just play it to not poison your opinion of the work.
>don't ask questions just consoom
Yeah you have to otherwise these works won't be able to continue
Not my problem
It will be... it will be...
Don't think it will
if you play it, make sure to turn off "gollum hair simulation" if you're getting a lot of crashes
I liked shadow of Mordor
>fans
I'm not sure that's the appropriate word
no where are our therapists
You're welcome to sign up for betterhelp. Yall could use it.
>"fans"
>listening to some crazy underage/manchild chudys parroting their fox news hatred because their own life is terrible
What are they even doing?
how would they not see how much it sucks themselves? fricking clickbait
>show sucks
>new gollum game sucks
>the countless future film & TV entries are going to suck too
its so fricking over LOTR bros
Literally every franchise I loved as a child has turned to shit, it's not just growing up either everything is just awful now
Its from israelites trying to make as much money as possible off of an IP as possible before it becomes public domain. At least in this case. Plus with how much money the original trilogy made, it was inevitable that the franchise would become a money farm. Fans didnt always love Christopher, but he genuinely was the one person defending the franchise from countless garbage "adaptions"
Yet he didn't stop the American action tier trilogy.
He hated Jackson's trilogy. And despite your attempt at being a contrarian, the Jackson trilogy was great and about as good an adaption of the books as we could have asked for.
the idea of a franchise is inherently soulless and israeli, it’s a story and the author is dead and the story is over
Why hasn't anyone in the family tried to take up the mantle?
Amazon is still standing, so not yet
Man, we're _this_ close to being able to will a show out of existence...
no fricks given. back when they started co opting studios and displacing people that were better qualified than them these piece of shit would tout that they didn't need anyone appraisal. they would view compliments as a personal attack, can we go back to that please?
Elves aren't immigrants either. They awoke in middle earth, as all children of ilúvatar did. Three big groups of them journeyed west and crossed the ocean to valinor, and then some (mostly noldor) returned to middle earth, which may be what you're talking about as far as immigration goes. But also tons of elves never even left middle earth in the first place. Green elves, sindar, king thingol established the realm of dorthonion, etc.
So how can orcs be immigrants?
They ain't, that other anon is moronic. Well sure, they could in the sense being foreign invaders from one kingdom/realm/country to the next. I suppose they immigrated to mordor from the northern lands of beleriand after the war of wrath. But do you really call it immigration when you invade and conquer a land under the pretense of war?
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