I can look at something subjectively using my personal bias to see if I personally liked it or not, or I can look at something critically and dissect where improvements can be made.
TFW 50 minutes into a movie and you realize you’re not enjoying yourself and you’d rather turn it off but you’re worried it’s about to get good, or that you’ll regret not just finishing it later.
objectivity is just an agreed upon set of standards. I you see a boom mike break the frame in a movie, that is an OBJECTIVE flaw in the movie, because we have all agreed a long time ago that we aren't supposed to see boom mikes on screen in 99% of contexts. Likewise for story and, yes, aesthetics. It is perfectly possible to assess these things objectively, we just need to know and use the thousands of years of precedent in these matters.
wrong, so all movies should be the same generic Hollywood trash point to point, and when someone try something unique, original or surreal it mean that OBJECTIVE the movie is shit, because it takes risks, and its not another generic safe trash. Completely shit opinion. There is no objectivity, just subjectivity and own personal preferences and bias.
You might say he's an NPC but I think it takes at least a little time discussing movies on Cinemaphile's Cinemaphile before you can actually understand the difference between good and bad
Barely anybody on here ever gives thoughtful insight about movies or tv shows. Name your favorite films and explain in detail why you enjoy them. You won't.
/tv is like a book club for lonely middle age women, just an excuse for us to talk about our lives and the current thing. I bet more than half of the anons don't even watch movies anymore. Probably just watch a youtube review and that's it
Margin Call, underrated finance drama with a razor sharp script, unique atmosphere and stellar cast.
Oblivion with Tom Cruise, a mostly enjoyable sci-fi action flick with amazing designs, audio engineering, decent twists and a surprisingly compelling exploration of humanity's strengths in face of extinction.
A Knight's Tale, basically a sports movie set in medieval times. Not a serious film but very comfortable to watch and emotionally hits all the right spots.
Pain & Gain, I'm shit at describing it but it's Michael Bay's best movie by far.
Hacksaw Ridge, I'm not even religious but it's great for showing the beauty religion can instill in people without ever getting too masturbatory over it.
Withnail & I, probably the funniest movie I know.
Knights Tale, Pain and Gain and Hacksaw Ridge? Kino pics my man
>A Knight's Tale
mein neggers
Definitely underrated kino, I remember hearing nothing but bad things about it, then I finally caught it myself and said "What the hell, this is pretty good"
Just watch a lot of films and you'll have a relative comparison, just like humans are hard encoded to tell races apart and ai can empirically separate them, you can somewhat do the same with films, you somehow can 'feel' that it's way better and you can only get that feel either after seing thousands of films or you can get it faster by reading great critics as so to open your mind faster
well I don't know but it's called pattern recognition and the ability to draw borders.
If you are smart enough to categorize yellow and orange then you might be able to tell apart asians and white people even if fingolian exist
I had the same opinion when I was like 12-13. I think he doesn't watch that many movies or maybe doesn't think about them that much. or maybe he's just one of these people who like anything you show them.
One of the most beautiful relationships that I've had was with someone like that. She was so "pure" that she used to find any thing I showed to her fascInating. A recipe, a movie, tv show, some story from my past, a lame joke. I think she was a little bit moronic. She looked like pic related
I hope it made you happy to pretend to have had a girlfriend Anon. I really do. But please do it somewhere else next time. Its incredibly sad to read this obvious fanfiction.
i dated one like this. basically everything we did together, every new song or movie, every place we went, etc; it was all just super exciting and amazing to her. she made everything fun. after a few months i realized why, she was dumb as a rock and going through a manic phase. things got rly bad. it was a good few months tho
Nice, anon. My japanese wife is a little like that. She just kind of likes everything. Ironically she's even more knowledgeable about movies than me, she watches literally everything that comes out of Hollywood and always know which other pictures the actors were in, and seems to just enjoy everything at a baseline level. Kind of funny that she doesn't recognize famous TV actors at all though. I have to tell her about things like Home Improvement when she only knows Tim Allen from Toy Story/Galaxy Quest etc, lol
even then it maens he considers 90% of movies good and the remaining 10% bad, almost every thought we have is a form jujdment in sense, virtue signaling about not judging things or people is the dumbest shit ever
I'm like this, but odds are he was probably whining because so many people are calling the new Thor film shit and Marveltards are feeling persecuted because they have no personality outside of consume product.
BTW I find both Grown ups 1 &2 hilarious and even I hated that movie,
I relate in the sense that if a movie is able to hold my attention until the end then that pretty much means I enjoyed it. I'll rarely watch a movie all the way through if I'm not liking it.
i kind of agree with him in that i think it's moronic how these days, if you consider yourself someone who loves movies or video games or literature, the common way of expressing this is by talking about how much you hate entries in that medium, particularly everything popular. i love movies and can usually find something i enjoy in a movie whether i'm watching some small arthouse movie, minions, low budget asylum horror movie, something by fellini, big budget cape shit, etc. particularly if i'm seeing something in the theater, i love the experience and there have been very few times i didn't enjoy going to the cinema (unless it's something like the audience being annoying)
stop wasting energy on things you hate instead of appreciating things you like
>stop wasting energy on things you hate instead of appreciating things you like
You have to watch the shitty stuff sometimes to make you appreciate the good stuff more and understand why the good stuff are good.
Says who? You don't need something bad to know that something is good.
>stop wasting energy on things you hate instead of appreciating things you like
You have to watch the shitty stuff sometimes to make you appreciate the good stuff more and understand why the good stuff are good.
I largely agree in “getting something” out of any film experience. Of the movies I’ve watched, there are only a few that are complete slogs/unredeemable. I’m always bad with rating stuff on something like Letterbox because it seems pretty arbitrary where shit ends up. Lots of contempt for the low brow stuff, and sometimes shallow “art house” gets inflated because it’s in black and white or something
Letting americans watch movies was a mistake
they're all either like that or >WHY DIDN'T THEY FLY THE EAGLES TO MORDOR >UH PLOT HOLE,UHHHH DING INCONSISTENCY
,WHY DID THE CHARACTER DO THIS I WANTED HIM TO DO THIS UHHHH
I notice the director's shitty sociopolitical ideologies more and more these days. Case in point, finally watched "Quantum of Solace" the other day (James Bond). Fricking terrible idiotic cultural marxist tripe. >villains moan about the raising of the minimum wage >bond's sexy time with a girl gets her killed, and rather than anyone just chalking it up to how evil the villain is a la Goldfinger, it's used as a lecture moment to berate Bond and show how everything le chauvinist pig he touches is destroyed. >long intense closeups of M's withered old hag face as she removes her makeup, tugging at her disgusting rubbery zombie skin in full detail >bond's close friend dies and he literally just throws his body in a fricking dumpster >throwaway line where character literally states that marxism=freedom (I guess war is peace and ignorance is strength too huh?)
The people who made this garbage have nothing but utter contempt for everything the 007 film franchise and Bond as a masculine icon stood for. Normal people watch films like this and come away thinking "It wasn't a very good Bond film, I didn't really like it, but I don't know why lol", because even if they don't understand the ideologies being injected, their subconscious basic sense of reality and decency picks up on it and rejects it. I'm surprised people even bother complaining about the modern "muh idris elba bond/muh woman bond" stuff being toyed with these days when this movie is clear indicator the franchise already died.
ok let's compare a video of me shitting on a concrete floor for 2 hours and The Lord of the Rings : Return of the King
let's see if you still can't tell which movie has more artistic merit
Good movies and bad movies can often be objective. It’s like comedy. Comedy isn’t subjective, what makes you laugh is subjective. Whether a movie is good or bad is usually objective, but whether you like it is subjective. There’s plenty of bad movies I like, but I can point to specific reasons why I like them. I like Punisher War Zone, Max Payne, Jurassic Park 3, Kate, etc. I know they’re bad, but I still find enjoyment from them.
I know people that just watch the time approved classics from their youth like Spielberg or Zemeckis from 80s and 90s. These people have never seen a truly bad film.
So what's the difference?
honesty and dishonesty
Camerawork and acting skills.
good movie: move I like
bad movie: movie I don't like
ez
Writing. Everything else is window dressing.
Yeah, I would rather watch a movie without a story than a badly written one. A movie without a story can at least convey emotions and look pretty
>a movie without a story
Koyaanisqatsi?
I can look at something subjectively using my personal bias to see if I personally liked it or not, or I can look at something critically and dissect where improvements can be made.
Cinemaphile is just digital hipsters who hate everything
this is a lie since they're strictly referring to netflix movies
id like to see this fricker sit through satantango
yeah except 90% of the time I think "I had no fun watching this garbage"
TFW 50 minutes into a movie and you realize you’re not enjoying yourself and you’d rather turn it off but you’re worried it’s about to get good, or that you’ll regret not just finishing it later.
I always switch it off at that point, last time was with 'ambulence'
this is why i always watch trailers first before deciding what movie i wanna watch. at least you kind of know what youre getting into
I'm the opposite and I hate it. I'm hyperaware about quality. I wish I was more like him, maybe I'd be able to enjoy things more.
No you're just hyper judgemental and opinionated. Your assessment of a movie's "quality" isn't some objective truth, just your own judgement.
You can feel free to eat slop and tell me it's gravy, but don't ever expect me to do the same.
>dude objectivity doesn't exist lmao
Relativism misunderstood by fricking morons
objectivity is just an agreed upon set of standards. I you see a boom mike break the frame in a movie, that is an OBJECTIVE flaw in the movie, because we have all agreed a long time ago that we aren't supposed to see boom mikes on screen in 99% of contexts. Likewise for story and, yes, aesthetics. It is perfectly possible to assess these things objectively, we just need to know and use the thousands of years of precedent in these matters.
wrong, so all movies should be the same generic Hollywood trash point to point, and when someone try something unique, original or surreal it mean that OBJECTIVE the movie is shit, because it takes risks, and its not another generic safe trash. Completely shit opinion. There is no objectivity, just subjectivity and own personal preferences and bias.
Novelty is a desirable quality and it is objective, try again
This except i refuse to consume garbage and yes it actually is objective
>tfw too smart to watch movies
You might say he's an NPC but I think it takes at least a little time discussing movies on Cinemaphile's Cinemaphile before you can actually understand the difference between good and bad
it takes watching the Sopranos to understand what kino is
why does he have so many SpongeBob pictures
dad are you working at the krusty crab?
Cinemaphile is based. All the chuds seething at Cinemaphile need to reevaluate their life choices
I'm not going to sit through a bad movie
I purely watch PM Entertainment shit. I don't know when the last time I watched a "good" movie was
Ah, to be stupid. Must be nice
Barely anybody on here ever gives thoughtful insight about movies or tv shows. Name your favorite films and explain in detail why you enjoy them. You won't.
/tv is like a book club for lonely middle age women, just an excuse for us to talk about our lives and the current thing. I bet more than half of the anons don't even watch movies anymore. Probably just watch a youtube review and that's it
Gladiator
Godfather I
Fellowship of the Ring
They're just great, simple as
Margin Call, underrated finance drama with a razor sharp script, unique atmosphere and stellar cast.
Oblivion with Tom Cruise, a mostly enjoyable sci-fi action flick with amazing designs, audio engineering, decent twists and a surprisingly compelling exploration of humanity's strengths in face of extinction.
A Knight's Tale, basically a sports movie set in medieval times. Not a serious film but very comfortable to watch and emotionally hits all the right spots.
Pain & Gain, I'm shit at describing it but it's Michael Bay's best movie by far.
Hacksaw Ridge, I'm not even religious but it's great for showing the beauty religion can instill in people without ever getting too masturbatory over it.
Withnail & I, probably the funniest movie I know.
Knights Tale, Pain and Gain and Hacksaw Ridge? Kino pics my man
>A Knight's Tale
mein neggers
Definitely underrated kino, I remember hearing nothing but bad things about it, then I finally caught it myself and said "What the hell, this is pretty good"
NPC mindset
Just watch a lot of films and you'll have a relative comparison, just like humans are hard encoded to tell races apart and ai can empirically separate them, you can somewhat do the same with films, you somehow can 'feel' that it's way better and you can only get that feel either after seing thousands of films or you can get it faster by reading great critics as so to open your mind faster
>just like humans are hard encoded to tell races apart
I don't think it's just like that
well I don't know but it's called pattern recognition and the ability to draw borders.
If you are smart enough to categorize yellow and orange then you might be able to tell apart asians and white people even if fingolian exist
I had the same opinion when I was like 12-13. I think he doesn't watch that many movies or maybe doesn't think about them that much. or maybe he's just one of these people who like anything you show them.
>t. Can't imagine a realistic apple
One of the most beautiful relationships that I've had was with someone like that. She was so "pure" that she used to find any thing I showed to her fascInating. A recipe, a movie, tv show, some story from my past, a lame joke. I think she was a little bit moronic. She looked like pic related
Cute and slightly moronic girls make the best wives.
I hope it made you happy to pretend to have had a girlfriend Anon. I really do. But please do it somewhere else next time. Its incredibly sad to read this obvious fanfiction.
i dated one like this. basically everything we did together, every new song or movie, every place we went, etc; it was all just super exciting and amazing to her. she made everything fun. after a few months i realized why, she was dumb as a rock and going through a manic phase. things got rly bad. it was a good few months tho
Nice, anon. My japanese wife is a little like that. She just kind of likes everything. Ironically she's even more knowledgeable about movies than me, she watches literally everything that comes out of Hollywood and always know which other pictures the actors were in, and seems to just enjoy everything at a baseline level. Kind of funny that she doesn't recognize famous TV actors at all though. I have to tell her about things like Home Improvement when she only knows Tim Allen from Toy Story/Galaxy Quest etc, lol
Sound like my girlfriend Yui, haha
even then it maens he considers 90% of movies good and the remaining 10% bad, almost every thought we have is a form jujdment in sense, virtue signaling about not judging things or people is the dumbest shit ever
when I was a kid I would enjoy the video games I got even if they weren't particularly good games. so I guess he's kinda like that.
It's kind of like listening to music, I know instinctively whether I like it or not.
That being said, I generally can't tell the difference between good acting and bad acting at the professional level.
Who is Thomas Violence and why is his opinion relevant?
this is now a weird twitter thread
Well that one's easy, just finish your ritual to Clauneck and you're sorted
90% of the time, a movie is just "alright", so feeling this way makes sense.
No. I'm pretty sure you can only maintain that kind of attitude if you barely watch any movies at all.
Sort of. 90% of movies are enjoyable overall, but you can definitely tell when a movie is terrible
You either have fun or you don't seems like an easy rating scale.
only someone who has not seen enough movies would say this. some movies are just bad and boring.
no, but the majority of Cinemaphile must be this guy; you homosexuals watch some atrocious shit
I'm like this, but odds are he was probably whining because so many people are calling the new Thor film shit and Marveltards are feeling persecuted because they have no personality outside of consume product.
BTW I find both Grown ups 1 &2 hilarious and even I hated that movie,
He obviously thinks fun means good, which thereby implies no fun means bad. Why is he confused by this?
I relate in the sense that if a movie is able to hold my attention until the end then that pretty much means I enjoyed it. I'll rarely watch a movie all the way through if I'm not liking it.
i kind of agree with him in that i think it's moronic how these days, if you consider yourself someone who loves movies or video games or literature, the common way of expressing this is by talking about how much you hate entries in that medium, particularly everything popular. i love movies and can usually find something i enjoy in a movie whether i'm watching some small arthouse movie, minions, low budget asylum horror movie, something by fellini, big budget cape shit, etc. particularly if i'm seeing something in the theater, i love the experience and there have been very few times i didn't enjoy going to the cinema (unless it's something like the audience being annoying)
stop wasting energy on things you hate instead of appreciating things you like
if everything is good then nothing is good, things have value when they are different
Says who? You don't need something bad to know that something is good.
You're moronic
>stop wasting energy on things you hate instead of appreciating things you like
You have to watch the shitty stuff sometimes to make you appreciate the good stuff more and understand why the good stuff are good.
I largely agree in “getting something” out of any film experience. Of the movies I’ve watched, there are only a few that are complete slogs/unredeemable. I’m always bad with rating stuff on something like Letterbox because it seems pretty arbitrary where shit ends up. Lots of contempt for the low brow stuff, and sometimes shallow “art house” gets inflated because it’s in black and white or something
yes
Letting americans watch movies was a mistake
they're all either like that or
>WHY DIDN'T THEY FLY THE EAGLES TO MORDOR
>UH PLOT HOLE,UHHHH DING INCONSISTENCY
,WHY DID THE CHARACTER DO THIS I WANTED HIM TO DO THIS UHHHH
jej
If I'm at the movie theatre i get lost in the spectacle. Only after discussing the movie in the parking lot do things break down easier
>parking lot
ha, an american I see
I notice the director's shitty sociopolitical ideologies more and more these days. Case in point, finally watched "Quantum of Solace" the other day (James Bond). Fricking terrible idiotic cultural marxist tripe.
>villains moan about the raising of the minimum wage
>bond's sexy time with a girl gets her killed, and rather than anyone just chalking it up to how evil the villain is a la Goldfinger, it's used as a lecture moment to berate Bond and show how everything le chauvinist pig he touches is destroyed.
>long intense closeups of M's withered old hag face as she removes her makeup, tugging at her disgusting rubbery zombie skin in full detail
>bond's close friend dies and he literally just throws his body in a fricking dumpster
>throwaway line where character literally states that marxism=freedom (I guess war is peace and ignorance is strength too huh?)
The people who made this garbage have nothing but utter contempt for everything the 007 film franchise and Bond as a masculine icon stood for. Normal people watch films like this and come away thinking "It wasn't a very good Bond film, I didn't really like it, but I don't know why lol", because even if they don't understand the ideologies being injected, their subconscious basic sense of reality and decency picks up on it and rejects it. I'm surprised people even bother complaining about the modern "muh idris elba bond/muh woman bond" stuff being toyed with these days when this movie is clear indicator the franchise already died.
ok let's compare a video of me shitting on a concrete floor for 2 hours and The Lord of the Rings : Return of the King
let's see if you still can't tell which movie has more artistic merit
Yeah, the only movie I dislike is Donnie Darko
I used to be.
Good movies and bad movies can often be objective. It’s like comedy. Comedy isn’t subjective, what makes you laugh is subjective. Whether a movie is good or bad is usually objective, but whether you like it is subjective. There’s plenty of bad movies I like, but I can point to specific reasons why I like them. I like Punisher War Zone, Max Payne, Jurassic Park 3, Kate, etc. I know they’re bad, but I still find enjoyment from them.
No, I see bad movies now and then, some I like, some are just trash and won't be re-watched.
I had a gf who didn't feel cinema was an art. So I reminded her that she only watched shit. She's an ex now.
I know people that just watch the time approved classics from their youth like Spielberg or Zemeckis from 80s and 90s. These people have never seen a truly bad film.
yeah, but when I was like 10 years old
yeah, if a movie makes me feel better it was good enough for me