>mascot representative of the United States of America portrayed by someone who would've been an American's slave and couldn't even legally be a proper citizen for 80% of the country's history
At its core these movies are about the post credits ads for the next movies. You get hyped for the event or Thor or Doctor Strange/Scarlet Witch film only for it to be a poorly done rushjob that theyll hope you forget as you get hyped for the next batch.
In their defense, Thor/Cap/Iron Man were at the level of D Listers in popular culture when their movies started. And they slowly worked them into mega IPs. But now expectations for Marvel are high and whoever in charge of casting is dropping the ball hard. Evans/Hemsworth/Scarlet/RDR were charismatic picks. The new actors they pick are awful. I can't remember a single person from Eternals.
Yeah they weren't popular but Captain America and Iron Man were on a far different level and have a better built in appeal than fricking Echo and Agatha.
That's kind of the point. They're creating lower tier actors/heroes so they can create content with a lower budget. They don't have to pay Echo the same salary as Doctor Strange.
distraction and brainwashing
USA is falling, with a senile president puppet at the mercy of globocorps harvesting the population
West EU is on the doompath aswell.
You can also trace a direct correlation between capeshit niggotry consuming and degeneration of society/pre-teen drag queen contests
and I unironically say this unironically. Frick the ____
Normies like you are part of the problem. You have zero introspection. Zero tastes. Just cattle who consume whatever is socially acceptable in order to fit in.
>echo???? >ironheart???? >agatha???? >thunderbolts????
they really are starting to scrap the bottom of the barrel huh, I used to be somewhat of a comic book fan in highschool (i'm 25 now) and have legit never heard of any of these
>thunderbolts
here in Colombia a book firm try to sell old ass comics of this shit (old comics they couldnt sell for a long time), thats the reason why i know they exist.
Thunderbolts have been around since the 90s. Originally it was a group of supervillains disguised themselves as superheroes. It was rather cool concept back then,...today, not as good, basically getting all the edgy non-X-men characters in the team.
Agatha was a literal who' until Wandavision... She was a third tier villian back in the 60s/70s and was never heard from again until now
Echo and Ironheart are a by-product of Marvel's post 2010 wokeshit content that trying to replace Daredevil and Iron Man.
I'm pretty shocked they just aren't going to have an Avengers movie until phase 6. The big teamup movie is the whole reason most normies even bother with this garbage.
When is disney going give the MCU a break to cool down as it is just played out.. half the world has spent the last decade watching mcu movies every year.
Star Wars is shit. 2 Avengers movies can totally work with two major villains. Based on the phase timelines it looks like Kang will be the first villain and then Dr. Doom.
>Wonder what Nerdrotic's opinion on this timeline will be.
He doesn't talk about his real opinions on camera. Everything that he does is rage bait to grow his channel.
The only MCU movies I have watched are Iron man, Avengers, and Spider-man. Do I have to watch all those other MCU movies to watch the next Avengers movie?
Watch the good movies if you want. Otherwise you are fine watching a phase recap on Youtube. I think the buildup to Avengers Infinity War/Endgame was really well done.
This, I'm very confused by phase 4 being allowed to end with no kind of villain or resolution of any kind. Why is this phase 5 stuff not just more phase 4???
This, I'm very confused by phase 4 being allowed to end with no kind of villain or resolution of any kind. Why is this phase 5 stuff not just more phase 4???
This, I'm very confused by phase 4 being allowed to end with no kind of villain or resolution of any kind. Why is this phase 5 stuff not just more phase 4???
Feige said Phase 4 would be more about new beginnings and smaller stories after Infinity War/Endgame. Everything kinda needed a breather too. I notice the phases are way shorter now too now that they are including the TV shows
I think they're trying to rebrand into "sagas" now so phase 1-3 is the infinity stones saga 4-6 the multiverse saga, both phase 1 and 4 about establishing the new characters for 2,3,5,6
>wtf was phase 4 all about?
Nothing. Phase 4 was a mistake. They tried to move away from the old formula but it kinda doesn't work. They'll probably go back to the solo movies ending with an Avengers team up again.
>Avengers
Who the frick even are the Avengers at this point?!
Even D-list Avengers books from the 90s had better line ups than whoever the frick is left.
People will go to see Secret Wars because Tobey Maguire will be in it, unless something happens with Sony. But that's about it, if both remaining phases are bombs like phase 4 then it will backfire on them pretty hard, I think they'll get hurt worse than any franchise ever, worse than the DCEU and Star Wars
They're clearly desperate enough to announce a "Multiverse Saga" and where everything leads but if THIS announcement doesn't get people interested then nothing will
Ehhhh. Some of the movies after Endgame have been stinkers. The D+ shows are a mixed bag. They gave out directing credits for those shows to a lot of new people and there are some great highs and some awful lows.
I'm so burnt out I couldn't give a shit about any of this, blade and daredevil are the only ones I would be interested in but they'll 100% be pozzed and neutered.
kinda hypocritical that normies have been tearing the MCU apart for killing the industry, bad practices, bad cgi, bad writing, etc and then cheer for yet another round of #WakandaForever and Avengers. Do you hate the mcu or no?
Race swapping, gender swapping, making sure all the women are strong and independent and all the white males need their help at every moment to even breathe.
Post yfw you havent watched a single marvel media after the shit show that was Endgame and are not planning to. post yfw you didn't watch any non Avengers marvel movie after Infinity War
The last thing I watched was Guardian's of the Galaxy I believe. But there's a 50/50 shot my mom is watching Thor every time I visit so those have played in the background.
I don't even care to pirate this shit. I had some interest in Blade until I saw the soicuck they cast. I liked Daredevil but they'll probably frick around so much trying to adapt it to MCU it's gonna suck.
I also really hate the "dude it's that guy you liked but it's someone else now". Captain American Falcon, Ironman-heart. Nobody liked Marvel, but they're doing it there too. And Loki wasn't about Loki. They just exist to backdoor some replacement.
>Armor Wars got quietly cancelled
Damn, honestly out of all these movies the only one I see being a hit is GOTG 3 and that's because it's an established franchise, but I thought that Thor 4 had some chances of being well received by audiences and a financial hit and look how that turned out
I wonder what their reaction will be if phase 5 turns out to be a disaster just like phase 4
Feels kinda weird. It feels like Shang Chi and The Eternals have been in limbo for forever, like they'll never get their big team up/Avenger movie with the rest of the MCU. But it's actually going to be 4 years from their introduction until they make it to their first Avengers movie. Funny enough, 4 years is the same amount of time it took between Iron Man and Avengers 1's release.
Why are they spending so much money creating shows and films centered around side characters? Whose going to want to watch any of this trash?
Until Bendis added Spider-Man and Wolverine to the Avengers in the 00s the Avengers were never the biggest book in the Marvel Universe. They were solidly behind the F4 and Spider-Man in the 60s and solidly behind Spider-Man and the X-Men in the 80s/90s. Their best decade before Bendis was the 70s when they were a distant 2nd place to Spider-Man, more due to the F4/X-Men being in awkward spots than the Avengers being great.
Doubt it. Phase 4 is a mess because they deviated from the formula and try to experiment with multiple storylines. If anything, they'll probably be more cautious about deviation/experimentation from here on out.
No, it was that + lack of interest from the general audience, and the damage is done, I don't see people flocking to see Ant Man 3 (the start of phase 5)
The Echo show will end up being a major misfire depending on how much they lean on DD and Kingpin.I heard someone claim it's a DD show masked as an Echo show
>Disney 2012: Instead of making our recently acquired Star Wars asset like our Marvel asset lets Disney brand both then run into the ground by replacing creatives with lower cost diverse cast and crew with the brands selling themselves
wait, there are actual "people" on Cinemaphile that watch and enjoy capeshit? like marvel capeshit? and like, the worst capeshit shit of a shit movie in the history of filmmaking? seriously?
I actually like agatha in wandvision but I don't know if i want to watch a fricking movie of her. maybe it'll be like strange 2 and end up being a wanda movie.
I would like to think I won't consoom every last second of it, but I said I would quit after endgame and here we are
It's ok bro. I don't pay for them myself but I'm just stoked to see how shit things will get when they're already so bad already
Yeah never pay for this shit just pirate it and zombie out to watch the absolute shitshow implode
Why do you watch it if it's bad? moron.
You disgust me.
who's going to be the next captain america?
really? they are keeping him till 2024?
Election year
Gotta get the Blumph bad messages to npcs somehow
>looks at camera
>And you need to doo better at the polls
I didn't think it was possible to make a costume gayer than captin america in the first avengers movie but damn they came awfully close.
BNWO
>mascot representative of the United States of America portrayed by someone who would've been an American's slave and couldn't even legally be a proper citizen for 80% of the country's history
Captain America was always meant to represent what the US COULD be... which makes him being a 0, 0, 0 even funnier
new world order runnin wild brother
some smallass homie who wouldn't have even lasted two days on the plantations
Why are they spending so much money creating shows and films centered around side characters? Whose going to want to watch any of this trash?
At its core these movies are about the post credits ads for the next movies. You get hyped for the event or Thor or Doctor Strange/Scarlet Witch film only for it to be a poorly done rushjob that theyll hope you forget as you get hyped for the next batch.
Because they can hit it big like Daredevil and turn him into a major series event or standalone film.
They're throwing shit at the wall and hoping anything sticks at this point
In their defense, Thor/Cap/Iron Man were at the level of D Listers in popular culture when their movies started. And they slowly worked them into mega IPs. But now expectations for Marvel are high and whoever in charge of casting is dropping the ball hard. Evans/Hemsworth/Scarlet/RDR were charismatic picks. The new actors they pick are awful. I can't remember a single person from Eternals.
Yeah they weren't popular but Captain America and Iron Man were on a far different level and have a better built in appeal than fricking Echo and Agatha.
That's true, but those are just throwaway shows on D+ because Disney needs to pump a shit ton of crap content into their streaming service.
That's kind of the point. They're creating lower tier actors/heroes so they can create content with a lower budget. They don't have to pay Echo the same salary as Doctor Strange.
>Whose going to want to watch any of this trash?
Simps
distraction and brainwashing
USA is falling, with a senile president puppet at the mercy of globocorps harvesting the population
West EU is on the doompath aswell.
You can also trace a direct correlation between capeshit niggotry consuming and degeneration of society/pre-teen drag queen contests
and I unironically say this unironically. Frick the ____
I just watch it like it's episodes of TV. Fun to casually keep up with
Normies like you are part of the problem. You have zero introspection. Zero tastes. Just cattle who consume whatever is socially acceptable in order to fit in.
>posts in thread
either accept what you are or self end, moron
Sure but I pirate them and there's nothing Disney can do about it
Killing off normies is what the modern elite are 100 percent right about.
>echo????
>ironheart????
>agatha????
>thunderbolts????
they really are starting to scrap the bottom of the barrel huh, I used to be somewhat of a comic book fan in highschool (i'm 25 now) and have legit never heard of any of these
>thunderbolts
here in Colombia a book firm try to sell old ass comics of this shit (old comics they couldnt sell for a long time), thats the reason why i know they exist.
agatha is the fault of the fans. cheered too much over a stupid little song so marvel decided to milk it
The worst part is agatha had nothing to do with the plot. She was not a villain whatsoever
>have legit never heard of any of these
Thunderbolts have been around since the 90s. Originally it was a group of supervillains disguised themselves as superheroes. It was rather cool concept back then,...today, not as good, basically getting all the edgy non-X-men characters in the team.
Agatha was a literal who' until Wandavision... She was a third tier villian back in the 60s/70s and was never heard from again until now
Echo and Ironheart are a by-product of Marvel's post 2010 wokeshit content that trying to replace Daredevil and Iron Man.
I'll never forget my vidya friend of many years telling me that Avengers Endgame was "the best movie he's ever seen."
Tragic way to end a friendship.
It was though
even just watching capeshit filth should have been enough to disqualify the b***h from your friends list
Will watch for mommy agatha and you can't stop me
That looks sad
Remember in the 70s when you had a shit ton of bad spin-offs of popular sitcoms like Happy Days and All in the family? Well this is ten times worse.
>Happy Days
SOVL
>tfw no Fantastic 4
That has been announced. It not on that list because it's Phase 6 with the Avengers movies. I'm guessing it's going to be massively about Kang
I'm pretty shocked they just aren't going to have an Avengers movie until phase 6. The big teamup movie is the whole reason most normies even bother with this garbage.
Pretty fricking grim.
I'll only watch Blade if its a standalone film, and its R rated ( it won't be)
It’s not standalone, it’s a sequel to eternals
>phase 6 only has 3 movies
Something doesn’t add up
6 only has 3 movies
yore a fricking idiot. learn to google dumbass Black person
When is disney going give the MCU a break to cool down as it is just played out.. half the world has spent the last decade watching mcu movies every year.
because this is the culmination of work done 5 years ago
im so tired
>12 movies in 2 years
>no xmen or fantastic four
Not that I want those, but that means this shit is just never going to fricking end.
6 movies. The other's are shows
Missed the biggest reveal of the night. Two new Avengers movies in the same year.
They didn’t learn their lesson from trying to release two Star Wars movies in the same year?
Star Wars is shit. 2 Avengers movies can totally work with two major villains. Based on the phase timelines it looks like Kang will be the first villain and then Dr. Doom.
One of these is going to be a tv series. Most likely the secret wars shit.
So it will be totally shit .
They straight up confirmed that it's two movies. Look at the Marvel Studios logo. Secret Wars is huge in the comics.
Secret Wars 2025? They're really going to try and milk this capeshit until then?
Wonder what Nerdrotic's opinion on this timeline will be.
>Wonder what Nerdrotic's opinion on this timeline will be.
He doesn't talk about his real opinions on camera. Everything that he does is rage bait to grow his channel.
The only MCU movies I have watched are Iron man, Avengers, and Spider-man. Do I have to watch all those other MCU movies to watch the next Avengers movie?
Watch the good movies if you want. Otherwise you are fine watching a phase recap on Youtube. I think the buildup to Avengers Infinity War/Endgame was really well done.
>Kang Dynasty
AYO
>phase 5
wtf was phase 4 all about?
>phase 6
ok but what was phase 4 about?
>kang dynasty 3 years from now
too long to wait dbh
This, I'm very confused by phase 4 being allowed to end with no kind of villain or resolution of any kind. Why is this phase 5 stuff not just more phase 4???
Secret Invasion ends Phase 4
they said panther does you moron, why lie
Feige said Phase 4 would be more about new beginnings and smaller stories after Infinity War/Endgame. Everything kinda needed a breather too. I notice the phases are way shorter now too now that they are including the TV shows
I think they're trying to rebrand into "sagas" now so phase 1-3 is the infinity stones saga 4-6 the multiverse saga, both phase 1 and 4 about establishing the new characters for 2,3,5,6
>wtf was phase 4 all about?
Nothing. Phase 4 was a mistake. They tried to move away from the old formula but it kinda doesn't work. They'll probably go back to the solo movies ending with an Avengers team up again.
Phase 4 is
>You ever heard of the multiverse?
>wtf was phase 4 all about?
Swapping out the old cast, based on the original Golden Age superheroes....with a bunch of homosexuals, c**ts, and Black folk.
WE WUZ KANGZ
>Avengers
Who the frick even are the Avengers at this point?!
Even D-list Avengers books from the 90s had better line ups than whoever the frick is left.
>Phase 6
There is NO way enough people watched Phase 4 to plan this far ahead, right?
The next years are just tiny carrots on sticks leading everybody to nowhere until they're forced to put out X-Men and recast the OG Avengers.
People will go to see Secret Wars because Tobey Maguire will be in it, unless something happens with Sony. But that's about it, if both remaining phases are bombs like phase 4 then it will backfire on them pretty hard, I think they'll get hurt worse than any franchise ever, worse than the DCEU and Star Wars
They're clearly desperate enough to announce a "Multiverse Saga" and where everything leads but if THIS announcement doesn't get people interested then nothing will
>two phases announced
They are desperate
They know they are losing money
>secret invasion
>echo
>the marvels
>ironheart
>agatha
>thunderbolts
fricking who?
You know, if it wasn't for the TV shows I would have genuinely no issue with Marvel right now.
Ehhhh. Some of the movies after Endgame have been stinkers. The D+ shows are a mixed bag. They gave out directing credits for those shows to a lot of new people and there are some great highs and some awful lows.
>The Marvels
That sounds like a parody title, what the hell is all this stuff? These have to start flopping at some point, right?
they're beginning to critically flop, just have to start commercially flopping (which they will never do)
>just have to start commercially flopping (which they will never do)
>eternals
>black widow
>shang chi
>thor 4
and it will all be WOKE TRASH SHIT.
frick this looks awful
and no daredevil until 2024?
kang = black
black panther = black
ironheart (iron woman) = black
captain america = black
blade = black
nick fury = black
am i missing any? doesn't seem very diverse
Yeah, that's why diversity looks like
Do better
How is that diverse? No logic in american minds whatsoever
I'm so burnt out I couldn't give a shit about any of this, blade and daredevil are the only ones I would be interested in but they'll 100% be pozzed and neutered.
i'll see most of the movies, i don't watch any of the TV shows
I sure do hope I don't die before 2025. Ha ha ha.
>no x-men
kinda hypocritical that normies have been tearing the MCU apart for killing the industry, bad practices, bad cgi, bad writing, etc and then cheer for yet another round of #WakandaForever and Avengers. Do you hate the mcu or no?
>Daredevil Born Again
How will Disney frick the greatest comic of all time?
Race swapping, gender swapping, making sure all the women are strong and independent and all the white males need their help at every moment to even breathe.
what the frick is Echo and Ironheart
>brown gay girl
Im out.
and when are we getting eternals back. the movie was boring but at least it wasnt garbage like ms marvel or thor 4.
> Stopped watching after the first Ant-Man movie.
Feels pretty good.
>no spider-man
i guess they really did dump him on sony
wtf is phase 4 then?
can you imagine weak frick avengers like blade and ms marvel trying to take on loki / ultron / thanos? everyone would be dead by now.
yikes why are they waiting 2 more years for darekino. everything else looks like a pile of shit.
I’m out after GotG3, I will probably just take a look at how they are going to butcher my boi DD in 2024.
Why does the term Phase Five feel vaguely threatening?
Post yfw you havent watched a single marvel media after the shit show that was Endgame and are not planning to.
post yfw you didn't watch any non Avengers marvel movie after Infinity War
The last thing I watched was Guardian's of the Galaxy I believe. But there's a 50/50 shot my mom is watching Thor every time I visit so those have played in the background.
I'm glad I watched NWH cuz it's the best marvel capeshit ever made but other than that it's all been cancer post infinity war
Really only want to see GotG 3.
90% of that I will never watch.
Can't wait to pirate them
grow up you fricking virgins
so when are we getting Doom and how long will it take them to frick him up?
we're the Black Panther 2 leaks legit?
These movies are shit
Who even are these characters?
Still no X-Men? that sucks
I don't even care to pirate this shit. I had some interest in Blade until I saw the soicuck they cast. I liked Daredevil but they'll probably frick around so much trying to adapt it to MCU it's gonna suck.
I also really hate the "dude it's that guy you liked but it's someone else now". Captain American Falcon, Ironman-heart. Nobody liked Marvel, but they're doing it there too. And Loki wasn't about Loki. They just exist to backdoor some replacement.
At least 5 of those are going to go over 700 million and one is going to go over 1 billion. Disney's gonna make a killing.
Daredevil is gonna be shit isn't it
>Armor Wars got quietly cancelled
Damn, honestly out of all these movies the only one I see being a hit is GOTG 3 and that's because it's an established franchise, but I thought that Thor 4 had some chances of being well received by audiences and a financial hit and look how that turned out
I wonder what their reaction will be if phase 5 turns out to be a disaster just like phase 4
Makes you think what on the current pic will be quietly cancelled by next year's Comic-Con. Fun game Marvkek.
Why do they hate Nova
I ride.
Iron Man - 2008
Avengers 1 - 2012
Shang Chi - 2021
Avengers: Kang - 2025
Feels kinda weird. It feels like Shang Chi and The Eternals have been in limbo for forever, like they'll never get their big team up/Avenger movie with the rest of the MCU. But it's actually going to be 4 years from their introduction until they make it to their first Avengers movie. Funny enough, 4 years is the same amount of time it took between Iron Man and Avengers 1's release.
Phase one was 6 movies , Shang-Chi to Kang is 14
Until Bendis added Spider-Man and Wolverine to the Avengers in the 00s the Avengers were never the biggest book in the Marvel Universe. They were solidly behind the F4 and Spider-Man in the 60s and solidly behind Spider-Man and the X-Men in the 80s/90s. Their best decade before Bendis was the 70s when they were a distant 2nd place to Spider-Man, more due to the F4/X-Men being in awkward spots than the Avengers being great.
based oldman
>jewdorowsky
why is he carrying what looks to be about 10,000 euros in cash in his pocket?
haven't watched any since End Game
If The Marvels doesn't flop then I give up. Nothing about that trash is appealing to any normalgay
I want a movie where they open a bridge to the Capcom dimension. Obviously shouldn’t have everyone but at least 7-8 chars would be good.
What happened to the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special?
No X-Men?
It's The Mutants now, you sexist bigot!
X-men is a sexist term.
Farming youtube superchats are going is going to be very profitable for the next two decades
In the end Rian Johnson generated more money for YouTubers than he did Disney
Unironically yes, i love disney, i love marvel
This Phase thing is gonna get discontinued isn't it
Doubt it. Phase 4 is a mess because they deviated from the formula and try to experiment with multiple storylines. If anything, they'll probably be more cautious about deviation/experimentation from here on out.
No, it was that + lack of interest from the general audience, and the damage is done, I don't see people flocking to see Ant Man 3 (the start of phase 5)
Grace Randolph is cooming over this in her videos
People like her make a living out of hyping up capeshit, wonder what she'll be saying once all this shit comes out and it's all mediocre
I don't watch her videos that much so not sure if she liked phase 4
>complain in 20 videos and make more money
literally cannot lose
b***h all you want about the current state of the MCU, but it could always be much worse. They could make Cloak & Dagger canon.
Daredevil S3 was already a Born Again adaption. The frick are they up to?
It's the only Daredevil story, every comic after that was just another retelling of Born Again
The Echo show will end up being a major misfire depending on how much they lean on DD and Kingpin.I heard someone claim it's a DD show masked as an Echo show
>Disney 2012: Instead of making our recently acquired Star Wars asset like our Marvel asset lets Disney brand both then run into the ground by replacing creatives with lower cost diverse cast and crew with the brands selling themselves
I'll guardians of the galaxy a try I guess, everything else will 100% be 100% shit.
wait, there are actual "people" on Cinemaphile that watch and enjoy capeshit? like marvel capeshit? and like, the worst capeshit shit of a shit movie in the history of filmmaking? seriously?
This news was the most depressing thing to hear about and I’m not sure why
What's with these "phases" anyway?
I actually like agatha in wandvision but I don't know if i want to watch a fricking movie of her. maybe it'll be like strange 2 and end up being a wanda movie.