He completely betrayed Frank Hubbard's vision
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Jordowosky, Lynch, and now Penis. Dune chews up and spits out directors.
well the books are pretty shit to begin with
Starting to think this
>Pretends to actually read books
lol, nobody is falling for it brown lady
They have good bits here and there, but the majority of thd word count is just unrelatable immortals, weird inhuman mutants, and feminists all philosophising about as cohesively as renegade angel does.
It would never work as a blockbuster. An experimental film might work, but that'll never get the budget to make you gays happy, everyone would shit on it for not having the space ships look right or something
>t. midwit
Let me guess, you adore infinite jest.
It was shit and you're moronic.
it's more likely that he actually read the books than you knowing how to read.
The plots are novel and interesting but the prose is really bad. Still, pretty good for genre fiction but I wouldn't read through them again.
>penis
Haha
WAIT A SECOND
> SINED EVUENELLIV
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
's Chip and Shatter
> Penis
Made me giggle
Pt1 felt like a good adaptation and pt2 was too liberal with it. Gedi Prime doesn't have a literal black sun that makes the planet black and white. It's just a heavily polluted world with a darkened sky. No time jump at all and having the events take place in less than a year makes the story feel smaller than it should be. Alia is supposed have been born, is a young child and she's supposed to kill the Baron which plays into her story later in the books when she goes crazy under his personality appearing within her. Also making his mother out to be the underlying bad guy is odd when she fricks off to Caladan to go back to working for the Sisterhood in the next book.
>Gedi Prime doesn't have a literal black sun that makes the planet black and white
it looked fricking nice though
Visually, but makes no sense logically.
who cares, besides autistic people like yourself?
People with taste
>Gedi Prime doesn't have a literal black sun
In Heretics, Gammu (Gedi Prime) is described as having a yellow-green sun, but I'm assuming this is long after the pollution has been cleaned up.
If I remember right there aren't any yellow-green stars.
>26%
imagine needing a progress meter to gameify reading a book
this already exists in regular books moron. it's called looking at the fricking book. you can't do this with an e-reader so they give you a number instead. what is your fricking problem
kek I'm just trolling.
it was too funny not to post and your reaction is the happy ending of my massage
>personally I pay someone to rip out all the pages of the book and mail them to me one by one so I never know how far through the book I am
only queers own kindles anyways
his mother is a bad guy? she is responsible for 63 billion deaths and the enslavement of humanity for three thousand years. all cause she chose to have a boy instead of a girl like she was told.
There was always gonna be a holy war trying to make their super human the new ruler of humanity. What went wrong for them is Paul isn't under their control.
Giedi Prime has a weak sun that barely emits in the visible spectrum so it makes sense that the scene was shot in infrared, it just sucks that the movie made zero attempt to explain that it wasn't just a weird black and white effect. It was basically a night shot but without the green tint.
That's something that I find hilarious about those movies and honestly appreciate. They're much better if you actually read the books and know the plot and character details. Imagine the balls on Villy to make those blockbuster budgeted movies which require you to read an ancient doorstopper of a sci-fi book to fully appreciate.
>hilarious
Why? Nobody cares about "why" things are the way they are. It's an alien world that looks cool. That's about it. It's frankly bizarre that you think anyone would give 2 fricks about why Giedi Prime looks the way it looks to open a book.
>Gedi Prime doesn't have a literal black sun that makes the planet black and white
Irrelevant. It's an aesthetic gimmick in both cases.
>No time jump at all and having the events take place in less than a year makes the story feel smaller than it should be
No it doesn't. It just makes the story make sense, Paul being a child makes it completely moronic.
>and she's supposed to kill the Baron which plays into her story later in the books
A) it's moronic B) later books are trash and nothing in the movie should be in service to them
>Also making his mother out to be the underlying bad guy
If you think she's a "bad guy" in the movie you might actually be moronic.
>Gedi Prime doesn't have a literal black sun that makes the planet black and white
This is such a stupid complaint. Who the frick cares, it looks cool on the screen. I can't imagine even the most autistic Dune fan being mad about this
Pt 1 was a boring letdown though. Things don't really take off before the second half of the book, sure, but the book is very interesting right from the getgo. Part 1's problem is that it really failed to capture the tension and political intrigue between the Harkonnens and Atreides, the biggest reasons for that is probably that Thufir became a nobody and the baron barely had any scenes nor anywhere near as much character as in the book. He comes off as a kind of generic comic book villain while in the book he's a well fleshed out and clever enemy to be respected and feared. Ultimately things just sort of happened in the movie and it was hard to give a shit why or what the outcome would be. This is felt regardless of whether you've read the book or not. It's just not that good of a movie on its own.
>Alia is supposed have been born, is a young child and she's supposed to kill the Baron which plays into her story later in the books when she goes crazy under his personality appearing within her.
Sounds cliche and moronic as frick, good for Dennis for changing that.
Name 5 movies that do that
>Hubbard
What about your vision?
can you homies stop crying? the movie was kino
Real quote:
>Your adolescent dream has been realized with Dune: Part One and Part Two. Is your teenage self satisfied?
>I have mixed feelings. When I embarked on this adaptation, the first artist I approached was Hans Zimmer, and as much as we were excited by the prospect, I remember him asking me, “Is it a good idea to try to bring our childhood dreams to the screen? Are we meant to fail?” But there have been many moments with the Fremen and Harkonnens [central groups in Dune] that are close to my dream and would have pleased me as a teenager. There are other things that I changed because of the process of adaptation, so it’ll take me years to digest all this. It was the most challenging experience of my life, technically and cinematically, but I still wake up in the morning feeling blessed that I had the chance to make this adaptation.
I respect Villynilly for doing all that and for not saying "muh adaptartion is the bestest". It does some shit wrong for the sake of compressing it all into a movie, but at least it keeps the themes alive instead of just making a typical Hero's Jorney out of a book that's kind of the opposite of that.
He did say it was Star Wars for adults which was hilarious and true
the new films are decent but ill always wonder what jodorowskis dune would have been like.
like a 10 hour jesus christ superstar
if you want to know what jodorowski's dune would look like, watch Starcrash. it would have been shit.
Aren't the full design docs and script for that adaptation publicly available?
All you jodarowski fans are film students anyway, so why don't you just make it by following his script?
It would have been an interpretation rather than an adaptation. Paul dying at the end of the movie is antithetical to what Herbert was trying to convey with the series. Still, Crazy Jodo's version would have made for an interesting picture, if not necessarily a good one.
>My desert, my Arrakis, my Dune: Part Two
that's where this film lost me
>He completely betrayed Frank Hubbard's vision
stop being so melodramatic you massive homosexual.
have a nice day
Frank's used to it by now
I think his corpse might be slightly embarrassed by the fact that someone managed to make compelling pieces of art out of his garbage books.
Frank disowned the wrong son.
It's time to admit that Dune was never even very good to begin with and any adaptations should be looking to use the books only as a baseline. Jodorowsky was right. If it were up to me I'd to a trilogy where at the end of the second movie is at the same point as Denis, but instead Paul decides to do what he put off all of book 2 and has his idiot son do, and just say frick all this space opera shit I'm just going to wormchad. Then we can skip the dogshit that is Children and have a third movie dedicated entirely to God Emperor kino, which would also be the end of Paul's story. You can just tell Frank wanted to do this but had written himself into a corner with Messiah so made up some insane bullshit to reason about wormchad into existence, so we might as well cut out the middleman.
>Dune was never even very good
Dune certainly has its strengths, but it is far from perfect.
Rereading Dune, and watching all the adaptations, has made me realize that the back half of the story is very clumsy.
In the book it's just a bunch of scenes with the Fremen with very little connective tissue, and this really shows in the movies.
Any adaptation is just gonna be
>Paul rides the worm
>Paul meets gurney
>Paul takes the water of life
and so on
>In the book it's just a bunch of scenes with the Fremen with very little connective tissue, and this really shows in the movies.
That's what i've been saying for years. Short of actually filming the dinner scene in the first half, I'm fairly certain the spicediver cut of Lynch's Dune is the best we are ever going to get.
The serialization really shows
>mfw the contrarian troll was actually right
Villeneuve is a coward.
It's clear Denis has never taken a psychedelic in his life. The blue drank and spice visuals could have been so incredibly interesting, but instead are a bland montage of visions
>completely betrayed Frank Hubbard's vision
Herbert's estate owns the rights to Dune. You don't get to decide what their intellectual property looks like. No, a dead guy doesn't either, despite being the creator. He is not the owner.
>you don't own what you create
Frick off commie
If I create a chair and sell it to you, do I still own it?
Dune is an idea, not a physical object.
I don't necessarily think it's bad to adapt things other people thought of in your own way (nothing is new, everything is derivative etc.), I just think saying the original creator doesn't own their original ideas is insane.
You can sell the rights to make merchandise/adaptations based off an idea, but the creator owns their ideas. If you don't believe that you own your ideas, then you slippery slope to defending pedophilia. No, I will not elaborate.
>Dune is an idea, not a physical object
Cool. You can't own an idea.
My ass you can't. Copyrights and trademarks and patents exist for a reason.
Communist countries famously disregarded copyright and the concept of intellectual property.
Meanwhile, you feel entitled to decide what happens to other people's property. Indeed, you are the feces slurping neo marxist forever tending to his axe wound.
>I feel entitled to decide what happens to other peoples property
Yes, I absolutely do.
You insufferable morons need constant babysitting or else you shit up everything you touch.
>file name
explain
Luckily, you will never get to decide. It's not your property, you are just an outsider seething at other people's wealth. They don't even know you exist. lmao
Aral Sea dewatered by river diversion for agricultural purposes. Created a salty inhospitable desert where there once was a salt lake. Because the USSR decided they knew better than the locals who lived in the area.
bruh communism is very specifically about owning what you create, unlike capitalism where what you create is owned by your boss. It's kind of the entire point.
>nooooooooooooo someone made something decent out of my shitty YA genre fiction novel
Commit sudoku
Right now