At the end of the day, I still think the Insomniac Spider-Man universe is one of the better adapted Spidey canons.

At the end of the day, I still think the Insomniac Spider-Man universe is one of the better adapted Spidey canons. Probably an unpopular opinion around here, I know. Anyone want to talk about it?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. I mean you either have just awful awful taste, or you're just a really really boring troll.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well I did say it was an unpopular opinion, and we all know how Cinemaphile is notorious for only engaging in negative opinion/discussion. But more than that, I think the bigger issue is with Spiderfans in general. See everyone has their own mental image or "perfect" Spidey should be, and fans infight all the time because of this.

      But yeah the current ASM has been really disappointing since Spencer left. It's rough being a Spidey fan. But despite that, I still can find joy in the game universe.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Peter sucks in it. Like many modern Spidey shit, they made him into a lame ass boy scout type. And an actual fricking nerd.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's just how he is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, that's the movies. OG Spidey was a dude with a chip on his shoulder. Bad temper and attitude. Dude initially only cared about himself and his family, like most people in the world. It's over time that he becomes a true hero, and it isn't the death of Uncle Ben that does it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For like the first 30 issues, fake fan. It's always you homosexuals who reveal yourself as total casuals.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He still wasn't a nice guy boyscout afterwards. He still had that chip on his shoulder but was a genuine hero, rather than the reluctant one he was earlier on. It's called character development. His bad temper made him flawed IE human.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not that anon but I wouldn't list "temper" as one of Spider-Man's defining traits. Sure when loses his cool, it's a big deal, but that's kind of the exception to the rule I think.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but that's kind of the exception to the rule I think.
                No, it was a regular thing back then. It's the reason why the other heroes didn't like him. Because he was a dick to them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, it was a regular thing back then.
                But you're taking a handful of issues early on and trying to apply it to the entire character history/standard. No one is saying Peter didn't mouth off, but I wouldn't say its his entire characterization or what he's known for.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But you're taking a handful of issues early on
                He was like that even in the 70s, dude. They made him into a boyscout with a no-kill rule during the Shooter years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But you're taking a handful of issues early on
                He was like that even in the 70s, dude. They made him into a boyscout with a no-kill rule during the Shooter years.

                Can confirm he acted like that in the 70s too. It's somewhere during Jim Shooter's run he starts acting like a boy scout, and it's pretty much codified with stories like Maximum Carnage that Peter shall forever be a moralgay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >OG Spidey was a dude with a chip on his shoulder
          yeah when he was a teenager and then he mellowed out as he got older especially when shit started happening to him. He still had vulnerable moments but they were actually attached to bigger events that justified it. Gwen Stacy and Jean DeWolff's deaths aren't Peter being that way "all the time"
          I swear everyone that says "But the REAL Peter was always a jerk!" are secondaries that saw some twittergay say it and haven't actually read the comics beyond the initial Ditko run

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon but can I just comment and say Jean DeWolff is a severely underrated and overlooked Spider-Man supporting character? She deserves more love

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You misunderstand. My issue is that the character's current sanitized depiction. Dude has not bite whatsoever anymore. Instead, he's a pushover who lets everyone walk all over him. Basically, they removed anything that they might deem as "toxic" to make him more of a kid-friendly mascot character. Think of it like this. Modern Spidey's Mickey Mouse, whereas OG Spidey's Donald Duck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Respectfully disagree. Personally I happy we got a Peter that was allowed to be an adult, and his choice to sacrifice Aunt May to save the city is arguably something current comic Peter may have done differently. But to each their own.

      MJ's pretty fugly in the second game.

      MJ is admittedly the weakest part of this incarnation, I will admit. Probably my favorite MJ currently is Ultimate Spider-Man Watson.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Personally I happy we got a Peter that was allowed to be an adult
        He's just too soft, and has some of that millennial cringe that's in a lot of stories nowadays.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Respectfully disagree. Personally I happy we got a Peter that was allowed to be an adult, and his choice to sacrifice Aunt May to save the city is arguably something current comic Peter may have done differently.
        We have demonstrable evidence that Peter would rather make deals with literal demons than give up Aunt May, so...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cites OMD as good characterization for Peter

          Yay

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say it was good. I said it was what comics Peter does. And that the anon I was replying to was right because we've had scenarios in the comics where Peter could just let May go already and he always refuses to.
            My implication was that Insomniac Peter was better for *not* doing that.
            But I get it. Reading is hard and gets in the way of arguing, so carry on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately, yes. Not saying it good characterization or the norm, but yeah, it happened in comics. One of the reasons why I like game Peter. He was man enough to let her go.

          For like the first 30 issues, fake fan. It's always you homosexuals who reveal yourself as total casuals.

          Cites OMD as good characterization for Peter

          Yay

          The vast majority of these gays don't read even a single run. They just want Peter to be a caricature of a gigachad because he's a skinny white dude they identify with.

          Now now, its like I said earlier here

          Well I did say it was an unpopular opinion, and we all know how Cinemaphile is notorious for only engaging in negative opinion/discussion. But more than that, I think the bigger issue is with Spiderfans in general. See everyone has their own mental image or "perfect" Spidey should be, and fans infight all the time because of this.

          But yeah the current ASM has been really disappointing since Spencer left. It's rough being a Spidey fan. But despite that, I still can find joy in the game universe.

          , I think a lot of Spidey fan infighting results in many people jumping on at different points in the character history and having their own idea of what Spidey should be. But that's touching on a bigger issue of couse

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All Spider-Men make deals with Mephisto in the comics. Even Miles and Otto.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anon has only ever read ONE (1) Spidey run and thinks the character never changed or evolved

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of these gays don't read even a single run. They just want Peter to be a caricature of a gigachad because he's a skinny white dude they identify with.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They just want Peter to be a caricature of a gigachad because he's a skinny white dude they identify with.
          Ultimate Spidey is skinny because he's 15. OG Spidey was lean because he was 17 when he started.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >OG Spidey was lean because he was 17 when he started.
            He was also 15 when he became Spider-Man in the OG comics

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That was a retcon made in the 80s. He was 17.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hate this fricking "every Spider-Man fan is a cringe self-inserter who only wants good things to happen to Peter and that's why they're never happy with modern Spidey" meme and I'm convinced it's only perpetuated on this board by a single smoothbrained poster

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Especially since the whole thing with him having a chip on his shoulder is to make him the cause of his own problems. He is flawed and he fricks up because of his behavior, not because the world just likes to shit on him. The best thing about making mistakes is that you get to learn from them. Can't learn if you're already the good guy hero type from the start.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but learning and growing is antithetical to capeshit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, it's gotta be at least one person other than me because I've seen posts that aren't mine espouse it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and I'm convinced it's only perpetuated on this board by a single smoothbrained poster

            It is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don't go from confident but bad tempered jerk to nice guy boyscout macot character. You just become a better adjusted version of the former.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MJ's pretty fugly in the second game.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wasn't gonna reply, just post the webm of MJ pushing peter out of the way, only for him to get crushed by a fricking FRIDGE, but I don't have that webm on me and I can't be fricked, so I'm asking someone to post that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im not sure why people meme that scene so hard. He effortlessly throws the fridge off him. Peter was merely dazed/got the wind out of him by the Venom hit.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked the first game, it told an mature story that understood what the character stands for.
    You can really see the change in writers for the other games, the writing quality went to shit. Compare Peter in 1 to him in 2, it doesn't feel like the same person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the issues with 2 lie with dual protagonist juggling, and SONY meddling. The game could have benefited from a few more months dev time, but it feels like SONY wanted it out for the Q4 release. That and the Adidias ad was clearly a bullshit requirement. Oh well. I hope the DLC is good.

      Before the second game came out I would have whole heartedly agreed but the second game completely killed my interest in Insomniac’s Spider-Man. Complete and utter bed shitting, probably the worst since Avengers to Age of Ultron.

      I wouldn't say its that bad. Personally feel like 3's biggest sin is Venom not being given the breathing room he needed. There was a lot of plot to juggle in 2 unfortunately

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There was a lot of plot to juggle in 2 unfortunately
        Agreed, honestly I think it would’ve been a 9/10 game without Miles bloating the game up. But shoving him down our throats makes it a 6/10 at best.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          See I don't even hate Insomniac Miles. In fact, he's probably the one I like the most when compared to the comics and Spiderverse films. He's got a simple rookie origin without alt universe nonsense, and he isn't nowhere near as broken as his comic counterpart. That, and we actually get character traits that make him different than Peter. Sure he's still kinda a nerd, but he's way more artsy by comparison.

          In regard to his plot in SM2, it was something that I do feel was worth exploring. Martin Li killed his father, and to ignore that would arguably be a missed opportunity. But considering that we have to do that, the black suit saga, AND Venom, everything started getting jumbled. I almost feel like that plot point would have been better served in a solo DLC, or another Miles game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Miles wanting revenge agains Li is so, so undercooked. He never goes out of his way to actually try to track him down, it could have been used as a contrast to Peter's story, him having his own corruption arc.
            It's just part of the two biggest problems of the plot, it lacks commitment and most characters are very shallow.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If I recall it IS something they touch on after Li is captured by Kraven. When swinging around the city and in cutscenes, Miles pesters Ganke about any Kraven leads that may lead him to Li. It becomes less about helping the city/stopping Kraven, and more about Miles wanting to confront the man who murdered his father. But yeah I would say its something that isn't beaten over the audience's head, and could have used more attention. Like I said, may have benefited from a solo DLC or another game

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before the second game came out I would have whole heartedly agreed but the second game completely killed my interest in Insomniac’s Spider-Man. Complete and utter bed shitting, probably the worst since Avengers to Age of Ultron.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Give me a Peter who acts like this. Much more interesting than Mr. Whitebread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We don't see a Peter who lets his temper get the pest of at times anymore. I fell like that's lacking from the movies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We do get bits of that here and there in adaptations. For example in NWH Holland Peter almost killed Norman, and Insomniac Peter was admittedly losing his temper when fighting Otto (hence the YOU KNEW?!) line

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Andrew Peter was the closest we got to how much a dickhead Peter could be in the comics.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think in general it is. Also I love that cover.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do really like the character design in the game. See for me personally, if a new/modern design is still instantly recognizable and invokes the original, its a win. But I understand purists that prefer something a bit more original and spandex-y. I just appreciate the balance of comic book imagery and in-universe "oh this is what they would wear in this fiction". Certainly puts most movie suits to shame, but that's not that high of a bar to begin with

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After the second game already had trouble managing two playable characters, adding Silk on top of it will be real shitfest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm kinda excited to see what they do with Silk. Though she would definitely benefit from either a DLC or solo game like Miles so we can establish her origin and character. Throwing that into 3 may be a clusterfrick considering we have to introduce Green Goblin to cap off the trilogy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm kinda excited to see what they do with Silk.
        Why?
        She'd play exactly the same as both Peter and Miles. And narratively speaking, she wouldn't add anything unique or interesting. Adding Silk only bloats up the main cast even further, and if they try to make her a THIRD protagonist, just forget it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >She'd play exactly the same as both Peter and Miles
          She weaves complex web constructs thanks to her organic webbing through her fingers. We can get dumb fun shit like web maces or whatever.
          >And narratively speaking, she wouldn't add anything unique or interesting.
          A PTSD stricken young girl that could work as a daughter figure for Peter, and encourage Peter to start a family with MJ by the end of 3.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A PTSD stricken young girl that could work as a daughter figure for Peter, and encourage Peter to start a family with MJ by the end of 3.
            from the little we've seen of her, it's clear she won't have anything from her origin.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Which is a good thing. Though I wouldn't discount the PTSD thing yet. I just working off the theory that her dad is a secret bad guy. Could be Chameleon

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when this wasn't an unpopular opinion.
    Reading discussion here about this game sucks ass.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having a selfish jerk who only cares about himself and his family redeem himself through his journey of becoming a true hero is a much more compelling and interesting than some loser goodboy nerd becoming a hero immediately after his uncle died.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But even by that same metric when looking at this game/characterization, Insomniac Peter has been Spidey for going on 10 years now. In fact Spider-Man 2 even touches on his temper in a flashback scene. In senior year when Peter was just starting out, he punches his bedroom wall in frustration after seeing J Jonah trash talk him

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do like characters with some bite.
    But you don't have to go full butthole.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are your thoughts on the upcoming leaked DLC? I hear the original Beetle, Abner, is supposed to appear too. In a similar train of thought, do you think DLC plans have changed since the leak (possibly old data to begin with)? I think Carnage was moved to be the antagonist for the rumored Venom game, and I don't think the Spiderverse stuff is happening anymore (thank god)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, i think that Beetle will end being the only DLC. i have the feeling it will end up being pretty short.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope the DLC is at least solid and we get a bunch of free suit updates later. Regulating Carnage to a short DLC would be a disservice I think, and ultimately better explored in a Venom game. Would be a good opportunity to not only introduce Eddie, but to rid Peter of the anti-venom suit in time for 3. And speaking of suits, I do hope they add the suit from the first game that got cut in 2, specifically stuff like MK1 Silver Armor. The more comic suits, the better. If they did cut the Spiderverse DLC, then I'll be happy. Let this be its own thing. We already got a nod in that one side mission, that's enough.

        But whether it be DLC or in 3, I just want to see some D listers in side missions. White Rabbit, The Spot, those kind of guys.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Source or gist of the leak?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only DLC with substantial evidence due to in-game data files is Beetle. The main one will be Janice Lincoln, Tombstones daughter, but there's code and textures for Abner too. Part of the big Insomniac leak was an old content plan that may no longer be up to date. It included Carnage and a Spiderverse DLC stories, but the former is likely pushed to the leaked Venom game and the latter likely cancelled. Even the game's Spiderverse side mission is so disconnected from SONY plans given that it features a character cut from the movie (plus that sequel was delayed anyway). So Beetle is the only one likely to happen unless proven otherwise. There's the entire Wolverine plot leak too

        That’s not true at all. It started in the mid 2000s when Bendis started writing him in Avengers

        It happened earlier than that, but even if we pretend that you're right, that's 20 years

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It happened earlier than that
          Prove it
          >that's 20 years
          That's modern Spider-Man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice butt

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Probably an unpopular opinion
    What? No. The series and world are popular and there's high sales and critical ratings that prov--
    >around here
    Oh yeah that's true. Mainly it's Cinemaphile kicking up shit on their board and then here when anything new for it comes out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It might be tempting to blame Cinemaphile but this is a Cinemaphile issue as well. Insomniac Spider-man gets shit on because Miles exists in that universe.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Allegedly this was concept art of what Green Goblin for Insomniac's pitch to SONY before they got approved for the first game. Do you think he'll look like this in SM3, or they'll tweak it?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Over the shoulder spider logo was a good design choice

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First game. Maybe. Second game is taken over by agenda pushers . Just like many other successful media at second part or season.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not as bad as people meme it to be. You only really see it in Miles's side missions

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At the end of the day I just think this universe gets a lot wrong and a lot less right, and it clearly being based on "modern Spider-Man" certainly isn't helping things. It certainly doesn't help that it almost exclusively pulls from modern storylines
    The costume designs are also pretty lackluster. Realism has no place in Spider-Man, and yet this universe seems intent on adding that kind of crap to every suit that shows up, even the non-canon bonus suits
    I also can't overstate just how bad this version of MJ is. There is literally nothing to like about her, but they keep doubling down on her all the same. Introducing Miles in the first game was also a mistake. It makes it feel as though adult Spider-Man wasn't used to tell the unique stories set during that period, but instead to make it easier to justify Miles taking over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It becomes more and more clear that the entire point of this universe is to tell Peter's "final" stories while setting up Miles as his sucessor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and it clearly being based on "modern Spider-Man"
      If that were true Peter wouldn't be allowed to win at anything, would be single, and would make poor selfish decisions. So no, I don't agree, and think this is better than a lot of modern Spidey depictions
      >The costume designs are also pretty lackluster. Realism has no place in Spider-Man, and yet this universe seems intent on adding that kind of crap to every suit that shows up
      There's nothing wrong with suits looking tech based because most of these guys are tech based to begin with

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If that were true Peter wouldn't be allowed to win at anything
        Did we play the same game? That's exactly how the second game played out
        >would be single
        Being with Insomniac MJ is genuinely worse than him being single
        >So no, I don't agree, and think this is better than a lot of modern Spidey depictions
        Believe what you want, but this version of Spider-Man contains all the awkward, ineffective, man-child trappings of Modern Spider-Man, and he is a far cry from the character as he appeared in his best years
        >There's nothing wrong with suits looking tech based
        That's not the issue. The issue is how overdesigned they are in order to appeal to the realism crowd. No one was asking for random details on Spider-Man's feet so that they looked more like climber's shoes. No one was asking for the 2099 suit to be riddled with seams for ??. And no one was asking for whatever the hell Miles's latest suit was

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Did we play the same game? That's exactly how the second game played out
          I did, and you're wrong.
          >Being with Insomniac MJ is genuinely worse than him being single
          We've already acknowledge MJ is weak in this universe, and no, its not as bad as current comics.
          >Man Child
          If this is about the angry Peter thing we've covered that extensively
          >Overdesigned
          Anything that isn't flat colors is "overdesigned" to Cinemaphile

          Like what you want, and I will too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and no, its not as bad as current comics
            She's genuinely worse. Current MJ is a good character mangled by bad writing. Game MJ is a bad character from the word go.
            >If this is about the angry Peter thing we've covered that extensively
            Peter's temper was a character flaw, and an interesting one at that. But not having that isn't why he's a man-child. His immaturity and stereotypical nerd awkwardness are what makes him a manchild
            >Anything that isn't flat colors is "overdesigned" to Cinemaphile
            You just need to ask yourself what the added textures contribute to the design. If the answer is either nothing or realism then it's overdesigned. No one is complaining that Spider-Man's suit has webs, because they actually contribute to the design of the suit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >She's genuinely worse.
              That's your opinion. I'll take different over dragged through the mud years of comics.
              >His immaturity and stereotypical nerd awkwardness are what makes him a manchild
              So if Peter does anything nerdy, it's a bad thing? See this is what I mean about Spidey fans not agreeing on anything character wise.
              >You just need to ask yourself what the added textures contribute to the design
              I'm not triggered by textures or materials

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'll take different over dragged through the mud years of comics
                The issue isn't that she's "different" it's that she's insufferable. Her new character direction isn't even unique, they just made her Lois lane but a c**t
                >So if Peter does anything nerdy, it's a bad thing?
                That's not what I said. I said the awkwardness that is stereo-typically attached to nerds is the issue, like when Peter stutters a whole bunch or quietly talks to himself for awkward humour. It's terrible. Spider-Man is not awkward.
                >I'm not triggered by textures or materials
                Disingenuous response

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you just going to keep badgering me until I say something along the lines of "you're right"? And what about that response was disingenuous? I meant what I said. You and I may not agree, but that doesn't mean either of us are wrong. And yes we've had plenty of examples of Spidey being awkward around other heroes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we've had plenty of examples of Spidey being awkward around other heroes.
                Modern Spidey maybe...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Try the past +30 years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s not true at all. It started in the mid 2000s when Bendis started writing him in Avengers

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shocker is dead
    >Vulture is dead
    >Electro is dead
    >Rhino is dead
    >Scorpion is dead
    >Kraven is dead
    Having most of your villains die with 0 fanfare is a real ballsy move, especially in a game with such weak antagonists.
    Who's still left again? Doc Ock, Carnage, Chameleon, and Goblin, right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget
      >Tombstone reformed with character development off screen
      >Sandman reformed with character development off screen
      >Mysterio reformed with character development off screen (doesn't even get to interact with Spider-Man before doing so)
      Betcha they'll use Screwball again as part of the Superior plotline they are 100% adapting, no the suit being an unlock in 2 disproves nothing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the Superior plotline they are 100% adapting
        They're not but okay

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's Otto alright. Your point? We've been setting up Green Goblin for 3 games already.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Look at the shadows around his eyes.
              Look familiar?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a reach, and you see what you want to see.

                nta but he's pointing out that the shadows on Otto's face look like the eye pieces on the Superior suit
                But yeah I'm sure Otto's failing body coupled with him knowing Peter's identity doesn't mean anything. There's nothing that they could have been building to by bringing in that modern storyline. Let's also ignore their affinity of Slott's run too. Let's also also ignore that Green Goblin was a big part of the ending to Superior Spider-Man as well, I'm sure that won't come up

                I had a feeling. But you're seeing what you want to see, anon. We've already did a story with a mentally compromised Peter. Also using Mister Negative isn't showing favoritism for Slott's run. We're all in for Goblin, and any Superiorgay theory is just wishful thinking. In fact they already used the Superior suit in this game for an alt costume, so it discredits it ever being done in the future based upon the team's attitude towards the black suit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We've already did a story with a mentally compromised Peter
                And? We've had three stories now with compromised close friends
                >Also using Mister Negative isn't showing favoritism for Slott's run
                Plus FEAST, plus Screwball, plus Otto's failing body, plus Silk
                >We're all in for Goblin, and any Superiorgay theory is just wishful thinking
                These games all follow the trend of having a villain for the first two acts before the "real threat" is revealed for act 3. The first two acts will be Superior, and the final one will focus on Gobby
                I don't know why you think an unlockable costume negates the entire trajectory for Otto's arc in these games. There is literally nothing else they could be trying to build to with what they've set up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know why you think an unlockable costume negates the entire trajectory for Otto's arc in these games
                Because that's exactly what happened in the first game when people begged for the black suit. Insomniac went on record saying they don't want to use story related suits if they plan on using them, hence why the black suit was never put in SM1. And again, Superior is just wishful flawed thinking on your part just so you have a reason to complain.

                It's far more likely we'll get Otto as first act villain doing Spider Slayers for example, then segue into Green Goblin for the final act. For all we know Otto sabotages the G serum that creates Otto, then in regret of everything he has done sacrifices himself to save Peter from Norman

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Plus the Advanced Suit takes obvious design cues from the Superior Suit, along with the fact that it was designed by Otto.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nta but he's pointing out that the shadows on Otto's face look like the eye pieces on the Superior suit
              But yeah I'm sure Otto's failing body coupled with him knowing Peter's identity doesn't mean anything. There's nothing that they could have been building to by bringing in that modern storyline. Let's also ignore their affinity of Slott's run too. Let's also also ignore that Green Goblin was a big part of the ending to Superior Spider-Man as well, I'm sure that won't come up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, not to mention
        >Black cat fricks off to Paris
        >Li fricks off back to jail
        >Hammerhead died(?)
        >Kingpin is STILL in prison
        Not really relevant, but I hate that Cletus is a crazy cult guy, Carnage is at his best when he's just a psycho that loves pointless murder

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tarantula and Wasp are probably still alive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wanna see Molden man,hammerhead, lizard,the spider slayers too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spider-Man 2 really was set on cleaning house. I guess Insomniac didn't want to reuse Shocker, Vulture, Electro, Rhino and Scorpion again in later games and decided to just kill them off.
      It's so weird seeing a Spider-Man game with a kill count this high. Unless we get a future game that involves Jackal cloning shenanigans.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can’t I get my favorite suit in the game?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spider-man is such a bad character it's unreal

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The anti venom suit looks cool, but the texture makes me think of semen. Wonder how they'll get rid of it before SM3? I'm just going to assume Carnage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Carnage is confirmed as the main antagonist of the Venom Spinoff.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Venom Spinoff
        is this actually happening?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A Venom spinoff makes no sense in this universe since he tried to take over the world. Who the frick is gonna just be ok with that guy stopping bank robbers and super villains?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because Carnage is the main villain of the spin off, and he’s going to infect New York again. Insomniac New York really had the shittiest luck.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The shittiest luck isn't that they're subject to Spider-Man's rogues gallery, but that they have the Avengers and the other streetlevel heroes but they're suspiciously absent whenever shit like this happens. Imagine being told you have a league of supes in your city and they're not even around for the big invasions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is Manhattan! Where's Daredevil?
                >"Turning a blind eye"

                On the plus side, seeing the seemingly abandoned X mansion raises answers as to where the muties are, and it's not New York.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where the Hell was Aaron? His nephews out there fighting for his life against an alien invasion, and he just disappeared into thin air. Frick, at least Yuri’s out there trying to help.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aaron has retired from being The Prowler, and technically on parole. He got rid of all of his tech/suits. Actually come to think of it, wasn't that one of the side missions in 2, getting rid of Aaron's stashes?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actually I dont think Carnage will infect people, but turn them into walking napalm bombs
                [...]
                You know the rules; solo hero's book, solo heroes problem. You'll go mad asking where other heroes are

                Shit's gotten so bad that Mary Jane had to step up

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Actually I dont think Carnage will infect people, but turn them into walking napalm bombs

              The shittiest luck isn't that they're subject to Spider-Man's rogues gallery, but that they have the Avengers and the other streetlevel heroes but they're suspiciously absent whenever shit like this happens. Imagine being told you have a league of supes in your city and they're not even around for the big invasions

              You know the rules; solo hero's book, solo heroes problem. You'll go mad asking where other heroes are

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You ask that in today's world where Kill the Justice League exists. A Venom spinoff would just be pandering to the Ultimate Spider-Man/Prototype fans.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How’s he even going to come back? The tongue Kraven sliced off?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Eddie exists in this canon, and yes that's the popular theory considering its a fragment unaccounted for

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok if it’s Eddie that would be kinda cool. And having him be goofy Lethal Protector would be a fun way to differentiate himself from the original. Either in a conscious way so people aren’t scared of him, or just because he’s just like that already

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In the context of the game, he'd probably unintentionally be similar to Toxin's story with his host.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One of the WIP titles for the spinoff was Venom: Lethal Protector.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Speaking of spinoffs, what's the latest on Sony's Venom 3? Because I dropped out the Sony loop during the Kraven-Madame Web months.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Comes out this October

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't wait to see how they frick it up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't wait to see how they frick it up.

                I know right?

                SONY film Venom never worked in the first place. Only thing he had going for him was the goofy stuff.

                I do hope that Insomniac Eddie/Venom can have charm in their relationship. I want civilians fleeing as he saves their lives

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it failed because it didn't have all the right things going for it, even if we ignore the missing Spider-Man business. Venom got a following for the Tom Hardy x Symbiote dynamic but the rest of the movies felt like it was doing too little to be original or entertaining for an hour and a half's worth. And I'm saying this in a "somehow, Venom 2 managed to be better than Morbius or Madame Web".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. The leaks have confirmed it’s in the works. It’ll be out by 2027

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anti-Venom looks really mediocre. Not as bad as Miles’s suit, but not as good as it could’ve been. The seem lines also look really dumb, and the black portions on the arms and thighs feel lazily slapped on. It could’ve benefited from taking more elements from Anti-Venom in the comics, like the yellow eyes, black portions in the face, and spikes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything about the games is try hard, it's just not cool

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try hard? Anti-Venom looks like it isn’t trying at all.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's try hard in the sense you can tell the basedest of California graphic designers got in a room and thought they made something "epic"

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So they’re not trying at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wanna blame Tom's Iron Spider suit for this trend of trying to add too much to an already good design.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’d like something more like this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's the "belt" that rubs me the wrong way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or this. I think the fleshy textures could help it a lot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still looks like skateboarders. Funny enough, the first thing that comes to mind with the look is New Goblin.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Still looks like skateboarders

              Am I an butthole for wanting to see Rocket Racer in one of these games.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not at all. I want to see Prowler too.
                Chance would be another fun one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prowler was already in this series

                >Venom Spinoff
                is this actually happening?

                Given the character's popularity, the fact that you can briefly play him in 2, and the leaks saying Insomniac was thinking about doing a game, there's a strong possibility

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Prowler was already in this series
                That's Aaron. I want the real Prowler

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At best you'll get a reference that Aaron stole the suit design from Hobie. Even comic Hobie isn't Prowler anymore, he's The Hornet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know, and it's shit. Hobie got his identity wholesale stolen from him, and now normalgays only see him as Spider-Punk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honest question but when was the last time Hobie as the Prowler mattered? Last time we did that it was during Slott's Parker Industries, and everyone hated it. In fact most of Hobie's supporting time with Peter was OUT of the suit. Remember when he was retired and building Peter the Hornet suit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Honest question but when was the last time Hobie as the Prowler mattered
                What does that even mean? He was underutilized during the 2000s for sure, but that doesn't mean his identity should be pawned off to someone else
                >Last time we did that it was during Slott's Parker Industries, and everyone hated it
                He also had an arc in Taylor's Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man which was decent. And let's not pretend that people hated Parker Industries because of Hobie. Hobie had nothing to do with that
                >Remember when he was retired and building Peter the Hornet suit?
                No I don't remember that. Hobie was gravely injured and learning to walk again when he helped Peter with the Hornet equipment, he didn't retire

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What does that even mean?
                It was a genuine question. I'm not knocking Hobie, he's one of Peter's oldest allies that seldom gets press.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he's one of Peter's oldest allies that seldom gets press
                To be fair a bunch of Peter's friends and allies don't get shit any more. It's a huge problem

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're doing the MCU design scheme, shame

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The tacticool hurts my eyes

                If it was MCU he's have a V on his chest. I'm not opposed to tech villains looking techy. He's a thief with cloaking and holograms.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What about Rhino? He's not a tech villain

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah he is, technically. When I say "tech villain", I mean someone that either uses gadgets or have been given tech enhancements. Rhino is a mix between a gamma mutate and outfitted with a next gen body armor. That still rings true even in the game. Scorpion is similar, augmented both genetically and given a super suit attached to his nervous system

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love this design. Even if the front looks overdesigned, the back and legs does him justice. Spider-Man 3 and WoS Rhino weren't bad looking either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The exposed skin just looks so awful

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like it because it suggests he's a big dude and not just a regular guy in a suit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like it. Reminds people that its not a stupid robot like Ultimate or that god awful shit you saw in ASM2's movie. Rhino is a gamma, show off the guns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ultimate Rhino was more of a tech villain that fits Insomniac's fetish for it. Thankfully we just got someone who's slightly less of an abominable musclefreak than Titan Bane.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fits Insomniac's fetish for it.
                Not really because Insomniac is still trying to invoke what the characters are. The actually remembered what Rhino is supposed to be, and try to incorporate that in the design

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll take it over their Venom, which was just WoS Venom. Quite surprised as well that they nailed the right balance between tacticool and OG with Kraven's design.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I liked Kraven, and I'm glad the wider audience got exposed to him here than that "misunderstood hero" pussy shit we're probably getting in his delayed movie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're doing the thing.

                What about Rhino? He's not a tech villain

                Rhino was actually more acceptable than the TASM version because you can still tell he was a big guy underneath. Scorpion had a decent design too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >TASM
                The suit just being a mech was lame. I'd prefer a downright cyborg to that.
                The OG explanation of having rhino-like hide bonded to his skin remains the best though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember not liking the original comic origins as much because it felt too similar to Scorpion's. I still laugh at the one anon who said he thought Rhino and Fisk were the same person

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Taskmaster's probably getting the worst out of all this.
                >skull mask being relegated to either a hockey mask or a helmet
                They couldn't have just done a NuCoD Ghost?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I always assumed this was a way to bypass China's anti-Skull policy in movies but I could be wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At this point, MCU's better off pandering to India. At least they're open minded about the paranormal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder how they're going to pull off Ghost Rider given this restriction but I guess it's possible that laws in China have become more lax, haven't read up on that in a while.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Game Taskmaster is leagues better than the horseshit Black Widow did.

                They're doing the thing.
                [...]
                Rhino was actually more acceptable than the TASM version because you can still tell he was a big guy underneath. Scorpion had a decent design too.

                So Prowler has to look like pajamas? Also maybe don't use Ant-Man, because his costumes are some of the most universally liked by comic fans even though they're different than the books. You would have a better argument with someone like, say, Thor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So Prowler has to look like pajamas?
                No, but there are ways of making him more tacticool while not following that exact pattern. Still, it's not the worst design I've seen, just nothing impressive either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The tacticool hurts my eyes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > but the texture makes me think of semen
      kek, reminds me that the prototype black suit from Spider-Man 3 was turned down because the texture made it look like a gimp suit

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not at fricking all, op. You need to go indulge in more spider-man stuff. try "spectacular spider-man"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like Spectacular Spider-Man, but yes even that show has flaws too. I wouldn't call Insomniac Spidey definitive, nor would I call Spectacular

      Amazing that this one universe has nearly all the worst depictions of each character they feature

      Now that's just a lie.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing that this one universe has nearly all the worst depictions of each character they feature

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    None of the Insomniac original suits are good.
    None

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile, Rocksteady's worst OC suit happens to just be the Challenge-exclusive armored suit from Arkham Asylum. Even the tacticool Beyond suit from Knights looks decent compared to Insomniac's obsession with supersuit/tech punk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't go that far. Both games have their embarrassing moments but Rocksteady was trying to wank Batman instead of constantly nerf and embarrass him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd take Batwank to a fault. At least the spotlight doesn't have to be shared with two supporting characters. Ironically, Knight's downfall is the fact that Batman keeps pushing his supporting cast away to a point where Nightwing's a fricking DLC sidekick.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s because Bruce knows he’s at the end of his career one way or another, and he’s afraid of hurting them if he becomes Joker 2.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but at the same time, Gotham's drenched in Scarecrow gas, he's Joker schizophrenic, and Barbara went offline. Him not asking for Dick or Batwoman's (phone cameo) help with the Gotham crisis was pretty weird. Though it's easier to accept that this Batman was more of a loner than the DCAU version and that one didn't even have a Jason.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Jason hallucination before he throws Tim in his cell spells it out pretty clearly. He thinks that they’re not capable enough to take on Gotham and her threats at the moment, and that by asking for their help, he’ll be putting them at extreme risk of dying just like he thought he got Babs and Jason killed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll take Insomniac's villain designs over some of the shit we got in the Arkham series
        >That moronic beer bottle monocle Penguin
        >Dirty ass Riddler
        >Roided out Bane
        >Trying too hard Scarecrow
        >Fully mutated Killer Croc in AK
        The only good designs were in Arkham Origins. I can appreciate the Sinister Six designs because at their core they're still trying to be what the comic characters are. But that's personal opinion

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Arkham Origins
          The most basic run of the mill designs. Boring and no personality.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So are you just saying anything now to be the opposition? Because its widely accepted that both Bane and Croc looked the best in that game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know Origins is touted as the underrated gem in the series but I disagree with that notion in general. Just about the only "neat" thing it had going for it was the wintery setting, as far as I'm concerned.
              The gameplay itself had minute differences that made it inferior, specifically the smoothness of the combat, or lack thereof.
              WB Montreal had to "recreate" Rocksteady's engine from scratch and they did an alright job all things considered, but all 3 Rocksteady games mog Origins.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Origins would have no doubt been on par with being a childhood classic superhero game like Spider-Man Web of Shadows had it been the first in the franchise. The cutscenes, the story focus, the clear naivete of Bruce, and the way it's not yet over the edge felt like I was playing a game that belonged in the early 2010s in a good way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd partially disagree. Insomniac's got some great villain designs but Arkham's is pretty decent within the trilogy. Riddler especially is good considering the two ways he could have gone is Ozzy Osborne (The Batman cartoon) and the Zodiac Killer (The Batman movie). I feel like Penguin's moronic monacle was a product of its time where they somehow wanted to out-edge the Joker but stopped halfway. Origins was definitely underrated and the way they made it would have made it my personal favorite had it not been overshadowed by being a "worse" Arkham City.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Riddler looked terrible in Knight because of his overworked and stressed demeanor trying to outwit Batman (which I guess meant races for some stupid reason). Even at his "best" in City, he looked like a hobo. Riddler is a narcissist and prides himself as everyone's better, so his appearance should reflect that. And he was already a serial killer in the Arkham series.

            I know Origins is touted as the underrated gem in the series but I disagree with that notion in general. Just about the only "neat" thing it had going for it was the wintery setting, as far as I'm concerned.
            The gameplay itself had minute differences that made it inferior, specifically the smoothness of the combat, or lack thereof.
            WB Montreal had to "recreate" Rocksteady's engine from scratch and they did an alright job all things considered, but all 3 Rocksteady games mog Origins.

            I was talking about appearances, not the game itself (which is mid)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's fine, I still think Arkham Origins is above and beyond most modern designs visually but it's still the most subdued.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This extremely gay Linkin Park edgy darkside monster interpretation of symbiotes needs to fricking go. It's the corniest shit and Venom has never been better than when he was a creepy stalker that just looked like a weird Spider-Man. Tongues, dinosaur teeth, slimy textures, tendrils, all terrible

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My take away from the Insomniac Spider-man universe is a lot of smoke and mirrors. A poorly thought out and sushed attempt at Spider-Man lore. Possibly mandated, but that doesn't change the outcome. The first game is OK but that's mostly because the viewer/player doesn't know much yet and it needs more games to grow. It comes off like a turning point in Spider-Mans life like he's on the verge of newer things. Like graduating in a way.

    To me Doc Oc, his story and his tech seemed like a gateway to the "big leagues" in Spider-Mans career. With the way everything was framed, to me I had imagined Spider-Man fighting thugs. Even out of his rogues, my impression was goons and hired help, Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion. I felt like these games would be about "masterminds". Ad the second game, and maybe this is just disappointing to my head cannon as nothing was promised, was a return to thugs shit character building. Venom/Harry and Kraven unlike the first game felt very rushed. In terms of story a lot of it to me felt like Insomniac instead of flushing out these characters relied on my preexisting knowledge of these relationships to fill in the blanks for their motivations. Harry/Venom should have started off as a side mission and then reached a conclusion in the third or later game. This particular Kraven story should have been in a later game after already establishing Kraven as a villain.

    And I know he's coming back, but the idea that Peter is this well established hero that's tired and wants to retire and pass the torch, also to me, semi out of nowhere. As I said before I don't think the games themselves really established Spider-Man as someone who's reached a level of heroics and been on so many adventures that he's now "too old for this shit".

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >when the muted design Joker still looks and sounds better than Suicide Squad KTJL's Joker

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a great design though. We should've gotten more games with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Asylum had the best Joker design imo, but yes, this is leaps and bounds above that trash in KTJL.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's only really an unpopular opinion among angry Peter self-inserters and racists

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it in a "Life Story" way where Peter realizes there's more than punching down to training the next Spider-Man and thinking about what else he could do. Especially as he's making 3D-printed drone networks and seeing his rogues either die or rehabilitate themselves.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good things I'll say about Insomniac Otto:
    >Costume is a radiation suit, as intended
    >Petty dickbag from the start, not some "Oh the arms made me evil!"
    >Doesn't fall for the trenchcoat meme
    >Master Planner vibes
    Only bad part? His lack of hair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would have been nice to see a throwback to the coconut hair with a picture of his younger self. They also managed to make the green suit look comfy, practical, and modern as opposed to this so props to them!

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember wearing this suit accidentally during a story mission and coming to like it a lot.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are you that homosexual who was glazing kassady
    kys

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