At what point the Phantom Menace backlash started?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile 2016 election

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROTS made nearly a billion dollars in revenue, there was no backlash other than Gen X nerds being disappointed they were still watching kid's movies 20+ years later

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The premiere where people (who weren't 6 years old) saw it and were brutally disappointed.

      Because as we all know the goycattle masses buying something always means it's good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Gen X nerd

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ROTS made nearly a billion dollars in revenue

      That was the only film that made more money than the second in the series of all three trilogy series. The final film of both, the OT and ST all made less than the first and second film did.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Captain Marvel also almost made a billion dollars in revenue. Your point?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If there was a backlash it certainly wasn't represented at the box office

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it made somewhat more than a billion dollars.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        20 years later

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Titanic grossed $600m in 1997 dollars, a frickton more than CM's "billion"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Titanic grossed 600m domestically, even. Captain Marvel's billion was mostly abroad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Captain Marvel and Black Panther had their box offices inflated by Disney buying out entire theaters to send girl scouts and basketball teams to go to which kept them in theaters for about twice as long as a normal film's run.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black Panther was legitimately good. Captain Marvel was pretty mid but watchable. Neither are like the snoozefest that is the Phantom Menace. Midichlorians ruined everything. Which is why Lucas had to retcon them. Zoomers need to understand this. Lucas wanted them to be powerlevels but had to renege after fan outcry

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When was the last time you were beaten up? It wasn't recent enough.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're a liar, nobody saw or cared about captain marvel, or talked about it ever except to deride it.
        we played the duel of the fates song in my school's band and it was awesome.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rise of Skywalker made over a billion....

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        adjusted for inflation ROTS made way more, adjust for the increased distribution and marketing costs and labor costs since 2005 as well, disney is fricked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          revenge of the sith was 3.5x more popular / made more money when you adjust for inflation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP. Millenial here and they are my favorite SW movies, because I grew up with them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Revenge of the sith got huge buzz for being "the dark one" specifically in antithesis to the slapstick of phantom.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And there was a whole lot of cope going on.
        Like this movie is somehow going to fix the mess that was the prequels.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The prequels could have easily just been two movies, with the first starting with Anakin as a padawan to Obi-wan and the second being his fall. The first was pointless. Qui-gon was cool though

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://chefelf.com/starwars/ep1_1-10.php
    If you're new to the internet and have only seen the Plinkett reviews, you'll spot some familiar (plagiarized) jokes in here.

    People never used to care about Rotten Tomatoes scores. It was a popular and successful film. I enjoyed it as a kid and so did you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I liked it because I was a moronic child
      Anon, you're saying the quiet part out loud

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He liked it because he was a child and they are kid's movies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah sorry anon I wasn't watching Dogme 95 back then. I was just enjoying a well-made children's fantasy film.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool read, thank bro.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I enjoyed it as a kid and so did you.
      I was cringing and facepalming the entire time and I was 9

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whenever mike stoklasa did the video where he took the piss out of it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Plinkett review came out a decade after the movie.
      People were singing "George Lucas ruined my childhood" long before that, zoomie.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There were a few comic book nerds who were upset about it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Star wars is based on a comic book?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man I hate posts like this. No one ever said that. You're adding random things to that post to try and "epic pwn" him because YOU created an opinion that no one has in your homosexual head.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes george lucas himself said darth vader was a copy of dr doom.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally the opening scroll for the movie when it premiered. Wild cheering and applause dissipating to indistinct muttering and coughing within a matter of seconds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, my child?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did you actually marry Mary Magdalene?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If marriage is love, then yes, child, I loved her as I do all my children, including you, despite your sins, despite your failures and faults, and absent of the physical love you degenerate and trivialize so much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      The energy of the movie was was not bussin' and then you start reading the scroll and realize Lucas fricked up by the second sentence.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as the word "midichlorians" was uttered on film...

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >At what point the Phantom Menace backlash started?
    GOOD MORNING SIR

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1977
    From the release of the original star wars a mentally ill tumor had been released into cinema as moronic children pissed and shit all over the scifi genre with cartoonish ideas that never needed to be explored because they lack any sort of basis in reality but MUH COOL EXPLOSIONS THOUGH.

    Lucas got older but, being a complete hack, he was like Michael Bay trying to make a serious drama, he embarrassed himself. His fanbase, being orders of a magnitude stupider, actually thought they had opinions worth sharing rather than ones worthy of being lynched for merely uttering, and vomitted their torrent of how the Prequels were too hard for them (despite them being babies first Weimar Republic metaphor and not even doing that right) and howthey stupidly just wanted Star Wars again and didn't care how it was done. These people loved TFA at release and would go on to be embarassed when younger generations called them out on it. Then TLJ came out and the backlash kicked into overdrive and GenX homosexuals desperately tried to distance themselves from all the moronic shit they'd said in the ten years between the release of ROTS and TFA.

    Star Wars was never good and China is based for always reminding us so. Not real scifi. Scifi is a dead genre in the west.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good morning sir

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pajeet saying anything remotely positive about China
        >ever

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chronically 110 IQ

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So a midwit then.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About as soon as it came out
    There was a Simpsons and a South Park episode about it

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Immediately you fricking autist

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_i_the_phantom_menace/reviews

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as the title of the film was announced it was already raising eyebrows. When the movie came out the backlash was fricking immediate. Even as a kid I remember it vividly.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When it came out. I was there in 1999 and I remember how like 5 minutes into it I was like... wtf is this shit? I've come to appreciate it more later actually because I came to appreciate its homages to historical epics and overall super old-school approach, although I still think it's not very good, but when I first saw it in 99 I was very disappointed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same
      i remember the movie lost me with the battle droid going "mmm ermm you're under arrest!"
      i walked out of the theater stunned

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real disappointment was Attack of the Clones. People excused Phantom Menace for being underwhelming because it was setting everything up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Attack of the Clones makes Phantom Menace look like A New Hope

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From what I remember, it played out exactly the same way as the Disney trilogy did. People were willing to give it a pass just because they were excited to see Star Wars again and optimistic that the next movie would be better. But then Attack of the Clones came out and virtually everyone hated it, which made people turn on The Phantom Menace.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked AotC more than TPM.
      It had Obi-Wan doing fun shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how embarrassing

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >better bring a good book!
    -boomers
    Your only alternative was a game boy and like 20 fricking batteries.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think when jar jar said "weesa going under water oki day" and made an absurd noise and did a flip into the water about 5 or 10 minutes into the film, that was about the time I realised I wasn't going to enjoy myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AJAAAKAAAA
      OOP OOP OOP OOP
      *splash*

      i can still hear it. what was lucas thinking

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was made for kid millennials to enjoy, and they did. It was not made for adult gen X's to enjoy, and they despised it while telling everyone around to hate it too. It could be worse, you could have the sequels that were made for an extremely small, gay subset of adult millennials to like while pleasing literally nobody else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Star Wars is a movie from the 70s.
      Boomers are the ones that cared the most about seeing a new Star Wars movie.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes and no.
        Boomers liked the original, especially younger boomers. They would LARP as finding it too childish for them while they marathoned the Jeffersons or whatever. The boomers weren't the fandom, that was gen x, then gen y after they were introduced to the OT in 1997 and then the PT as kids and teens. Gen x and y kept it all alive.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jar Jar was zesty.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gen X demanded JJ Abrams rehashed zoom zoom bullshit. They're not so loud now that they ruined everything.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was famously shit and really wasn't necessary at all. George should have taken a page from his buddy Coppola's book and turned the second trilogy into a duology and made it Godfather 1&2 but for a younger audience

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Day one. People complained about kid anakin and jar jar all the time. It wasn't just nerds either, even mainstream shows like Simpsons and South Park complained about Episode 1/particularly Jar Jar.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Much later, the movies were popular back then, I remember Attack of the Clones getting shit mostly because of Anakin acting way too cringe but that's all

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i heard of people b***hing about midicolorians while it was still in theatres and i remember openly keking at georgies writing with obi wan's
    >the negotiations were short
    line. so literally right away.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gen Xers hated how "kiddie" it was (and they were right, which is also why Lucas abandoned kid Anakin.)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Originals were Star Wars for 12 year olds
      Prequels were Star Wars for 7 year olds
      Sequels were Star Wars for 35 year olds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sequels were Star Wars for 35 year olds
        More like 45 year olds. They were aiming for the gen x market and failed because they didn't include enough nostalgiabait. Disney learned the hard way that Gen X will never acknowledge anything other than the OT.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          shut the frick up, holy shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >More like 45 year olds. They were aiming for the gen x market and failed because they didn't include enough nostalgiabait.
          The Force Awakens is in the top ten highest grossing films of all time, even when adjusted for inflation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and it killed the franchise

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Clearly it didn't since The Last Jedi was a success as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Last Jedi
                >Success
                It made half as much as TFA and it was all downhill from there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It only had a 35% drop. Empire and AotC were close to that drop as well when compared to their respective first films.
                Now if you told me that TRoS or Solo was a failure, I'd agree with you. But to pretend that the sequels all together were failures is just a cope. Especially when TFA spawned the whole "sequel-reboot to an old classic" trend that we're still seeing now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TFA didn't spawn it. Jurassic World came out 6 months earlier in 2015.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except Jurassic World didn't bank on nostalgia as much as TFA did, mainly when it comes to advertising.
                >Chewie, we're home.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmfao Jurassic World was ground zero for nostalgia marketing and remember berries.
                Jurassic World showed studios they can take your money while calling you morons

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If they went all in they would've gotten Goldblum and Sam Neill.
                But TFA is the template that studios borrow from nowadays with the "old" characters meeting and guiding the "new" characters.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably day one.
    But I was born a year after it was released so I wouldn't know. The prequels are mostly shit though, so I'd understand why quite a few people were disappointed with them. They were a combination of George's laziness when it comes to directing and people not challenging his bad ideas.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lucas himself realized that the Phantom Menace was bad immediately even before it was released. . Even his sycophants felt comfortable enough to admit it to his face. Why didn't he learn from it?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The moment it came out, people didn't like it, kids nowadays probably don't remember that but all people remembered from that movie were the lightsabers, not Obi Wan, not Qui Gon, the fricking lightsabers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously, I'm basically a zoomer and I'm surprised people don't realize this. Sure there were crazy nerds who screamed in joy exiting the theatre the first time, but backlash was utterly immediate. Hence why AOTC "corrected" and ended up causing even more issues.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aired: March 2nd, 2001

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I still can't get past this guy's utter loathing for the prequels when he sucks Abram's wiener at every chance.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gen Xers hate the idea of Jedi and just want a space western.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Jedi are just a bunch of telekinetic buddhists with glowing space dildos. They're not that interesting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because he is friends with israelite israelite

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Day 1. I was there.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The digital backdrops looked like shit at the time and have aged horribly compared to the real scenery of the OT. That movie started one of the worst fricking trends ever in Hollywood with digital filming, frick George Lucas.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lucas was producing marvel slop before marvel
      >was purchased by Disney, who also purchased Marvel
      It's like poetry.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When Howard Stern saw an advanced release of it. I thought he had to be full of shit.
    >puppets fighting puppets

    ?feature=shared&t=575

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >80% of the movie is boring space politics
    >10% is CGI action
    >the other 10% is cool lightsaber fights
    Yeah honestly I think the only reason millennials remember it fondly is because of the final act when Maul fights Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. The rest of the movie is boring as frick.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, the backlash started about twenty minutes into the movie, when I realized it was fricking shit, and wasn’t going to get better.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw this in theatres at 4 years old and I will see it again at 29 tomorrow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      congratulations on not growing up!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I saw it at 39 and I’m excited to see it again at 64.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie was huge when it came out, and people were praising it and the music and the action and Qui gon and the lightsabers and Darth Maul and everything they could. Some of it may have been general impressed-ness brought about by a lot of the new shit the movie did. Some of it may have just been the fact that it was a new Star Wars movie.

    But it started to get shit on by the time the second prequel came out. When Jar-Jar hate became a meme and people started hating on young Anakin. Personally, I fell asleep every time I tried to watch the movie so I always hated it.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1999

    http://web.archive.org/web/20000305191203/http://www.leisuresuit.net/Webzine/articles/starwars_rev.shtml

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lucas came up with some crazy notion that none of the characters in this film should have a sense of humor, and that he should dump it all into this one insane computer generated Jamaican frog. As a result, Liam Neeson is a stoic, over dramatic bore, and Jar Jar Binks says he's in "big poopy.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The first wave was shortly after it came out, on the Gen X "geek culture" sites like Ain't It Cool News, and some TV shows would make offhanded remarks about the prequels or Jar Jar. However, after ROTS came out and was generally liked, the PT hate mostly died down for a few years.

    But then after Plinkett released his reviews in 2009, the hate was revived and memed into the stratosphere similar to the hate over Dane Cook, Nickelback, Dragon Ball GT, etc. For the next few years prequel videos would have nothing but "You guys wanna pizza roll" in their comments sections. The 2011 Blu-rays (Vader saying NOOO in ROTJ) only made it worse.

    Then another development happened in 2017, after the backlash towards The Last Jedi. Prequel memes became popular and the perception over things like the sand dialogue went from "pure vitriol" to "affectionate ribbing".

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >That's podracism
    Bravo, George.

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