Apparently Earth is just an uninhabitable shithole with crime and murder and a survival of the fittest mentality so the government sent soldiers to get that big ol unobtanium to fix Earth or conquer a new world
>Apparently Earth is just an uninhabitable shithole with crime and murder and a survival of the fittest mentality
that's accurate actually. why are you mad about this?
Why not just synthesize it if they get so little per whale. I mean is biological compound, shouldn’t be rocket science for people who can literally store memories and create human-alien hybrids at a whim.
According to the second film they've only been back on Pandora for a year but instead of bee-lining for unobtanium (which they need for starship fuel) they start exploring the marine life, discover the elusive whales, hunt them, examine their brain juices, test their brain juices on humans, find out in under a year that these juices halt aging, send the information back to Earth, do more research to find out it's safe to use on humans, determine a market price of 80 million a vial, and establish a whaling operation.
And all of this occurs in 1 year and renders the 40-year mining of a room-temparature superconductor that their starships need to a secondary mission.
Maybe they already were somewhat aware of the whale brain juice, but it was secondary to the Unobtainium mission in 1, so they didn't have the naval resources.
But once its value and effects were better understood, then they pivoted to exploitation of that, versus exclusive mining.
Also, sauce?
It's just too much of an asspull given the previous film and supporting books only listed Hell's Gate as a colony and that all the human scientific focus was on the unobtanium, the Na'vi, and the wildlife in the nearby jungle, and nothing was ever mentioned about the distant sea. And I say "distant sea" because Jake points out in film 2 that the seas was far enough away that he thought the RDA wouldn't find them there.
I’m content living in my house that I grew up in and inherited from my parents. If it turned out their was good under the house I wouldn’t be ok with you bulldozing my property because you really want the gold
I mean that makes perfect sense to me. They'll go where the money is, and an anti-aging drug would be the most valuable thing ever invented. Like unobtainium would still be very valuable, but who gives a fuck about starships when there's a drug that could make you live forever?
That guy calling it unobtanium would make sense if he was using "unobtanium" as slang for "this is really really expensive and everyone wants it", because he's a corporate guy who only cares about the supply and demand aspect of it and doesn't care about its scientific properties. But instead it doesn't have an actual name at all, and literally everyone calls it unobtanium, which is just stupid.
Unobtanium's apparently a real engineering term for "something thats perfect for a given purpose but its absurdly expensive or hard to get so you're gonna have to use something else", which sounds about right for a room temperature superconductor you need to do a 12 year round trip to an entirely separate solar system to acquire any.
Yeah, that's why it makes sense that he would say it. Unobtanium = it's insanely rare and expensive and it makes us a lot of money. Everyone calling it unobtanium even the scientists and it not having an actual name in-lore is what's deeply stupid.
The lore is that the navi were once a highly advanced race that went back to monke on purpose because to them that's the purest and most ideal form of existence.
The planet is littered with remnants of high tech stuff they abandoned a long time ago and the entire planet (Eywa or whatever) is some super AI they set up way back when to help them facilitate their utopia.
Eventually humans are going to figure out that's the way to go and the navi will teach them to convert Earth into a similar paradise planet.
Biggest plot hole is why they didn’t glass the world tree/spirit tree with their ship’s thrusters on their return. Or actually carpet bomb the area from orbit with kinetic projectiles now that they have an entire fleet of spaceships.
Not allowed nukes because reasons, but hey - all the antimatter they need to push 100's of thousands of tons worth of space ships at extreme velocities across space. No big deal.
It was probably some RDA bean counter who did the risk vs reward cost analysis and decided that a delta v maneuver with the ISV fleet was fine to do.
Isn't this what they literally did in the first 10 minutes of the sequel?
That's why the unobtaining isn't brought up anymore. They literally landed their shit right on top of the site and mined it in a year once they stopped fucking around.
The Unobtanium is what powers Eywa and allows her to exist. That's why it's under the Na'vi's most sacred sites where they connect to her. And why she specifically prohibited the Na'vi from digging up the metal. The humans of course want it all, which will kill her
if the avatars don’t need it why they don’t just let the humans have it and then we can leave and explore the universe and they can sit around with their bongs and dildos in peace?
>You’ve obviously never sat on an unobtanium dildo
It gives you the orgasm from taking a horse cock while needing you to only stretch a finger thickness. It's Earth's most prized commodity in the future.
Is the floatiness a magnetic thing? Or does it have "negative mass". If it has negative mass then couldn't that be used for FTL travel? idk I'm not no stupid science bitch
Basically if you douse a superconductor with liquid nitrogen to cool it to a specific temperature, it starts to emit a repellent magnetic field which then causes any nearby magnets to levitate. This is the principle that maglev trains operate on.
The fact that Unobtanium doesn't need to be cooled like that means it is a room temperature superconductor, which would make maglev technology much more viable, and if used in a power grid it wouldn't end up losing energy because of the wiring's natural resistance to conducting energy, making things much more efficient than normal materials.
A room-temperature superconductor would also make nuclear fusion a much more viable energy source (big magnets contain hot plasma). The interstellar travel in the movie uses fusion engines, so that's another reason. superconductors are also important for developing quantum computers, which would likely be able to simulate or scan an entire human brain in real time (Avatar program). The mag-lev trains are just another use case, one that we can already build right now.
Why do they need to stop aging with the whale shit if they can just clone themselfs/ transport thier brain to a new body. Also every human should be perfect geniuses or super soliders as they can transport memories.
I don’t know what retards don’t get about this. If you transfer a copy of consciousness, you’ve made a clone. Your continuity of consciousness will still end and you will die. Literally how is this not the first thing you think about? Are people like you even actually conscious?
why would a gazillionaire able to buy youth serum make a clone of himself , if they havent already for safety
it's a status symbol , a luxury
also this might be me but I feel the general's personality changed a bit after being rebodied , he seemed more empathetic , at least towards his child
It's an inside joke the filmmakers put it because they think audiences are too stupid to know the word "unobtainable." It's like using the fucking Wilhelm scream as the macguffin.
Once you obtain it, does it become obtainium?
It fucking floats
Not-acquire-ium
Hard-to-get-ium
Rare fuckin shit
Wishihadmoreofitium
Hardofminingium
Supplyanddemandium
They could é gone with any other, sensible name, and they go with unobtanium? LMAO
heymanyougotanymoreofthatbombassshitium
>Mining is Le bad
Rocks belong in the ground chud.
Apparently Earth is just an uninhabitable shithole with crime and murder and a survival of the fittest mentality so the government sent soldiers to get that big ol unobtanium to fix Earth or conquer a new world
>Apparently Earth is just an uninhabitable shithole with crime and murder and a survival of the fittest mentality
that's accurate actually. why are you mad about this?
>HURRR YOU'RE JUST MAD
why are you like this?
so did they just drop this plot device entirely with no explanation for the sequel
Whaling for amrita is probably cheaper and less hazard pay.
Love how they go from mining and killing the trees/earth to hunting fucking sentient uber smart whales for gooey amrita.
what horrible thing will the humans be doing next film? Clubbing baby seals?
Probably do a roicism against black Na’vi
Denying there's a climate crisis.
drill for unobtoilum which are the fossilized spiritual remnants of Na'vi ancestors
>strip mining
>whaling
Next movie will revolve around technorabbis hunting down and circumcising na’vi for their blue foreskins screencap this
Why not just synthesize it if they get so little per whale. I mean is biological compound, shouldn’t be rocket science for people who can literally store memories and create human-alien hybrids at a whim.
Doesn't make any sense.
According to the second film they've only been back on Pandora for a year but instead of bee-lining for unobtanium (which they need for starship fuel) they start exploring the marine life, discover the elusive whales, hunt them, examine their brain juices, test their brain juices on humans, find out in under a year that these juices halt aging, send the information back to Earth, do more research to find out it's safe to use on humans, determine a market price of 80 million a vial, and establish a whaling operation.
And all of this occurs in 1 year and renders the 40-year mining of a room-temparature superconductor that their starships need to a secondary mission.
source me, please
Maybe they already were somewhat aware of the whale brain juice, but it was secondary to the Unobtainium mission in 1, so they didn't have the naval resources.
But once its value and effects were better understood, then they pivoted to exploitation of that, versus exclusive mining.
Also, sauce?
It's just too much of an asspull given the previous film and supporting books only listed Hell's Gate as a colony and that all the human scientific focus was on the unobtanium, the Na'vi, and the wildlife in the nearby jungle, and nothing was ever mentioned about the distant sea. And I say "distant sea" because Jake points out in film 2 that the seas was far enough away that he thought the RDA wouldn't find them there.
Eva Lovia
>Eva Lovia
Fanks, I was getting impatient.
I’m content living in my house that I grew up in and inherited from my parents. If it turned out their was good under the house I wouldn’t be ok with you bulldozing my property because you really want the gold
I mean that makes perfect sense to me. They'll go where the money is, and an anti-aging drug would be the most valuable thing ever invented. Like unobtainium would still be very valuable, but who gives a fuck about starships when there's a drug that could make you live forever?
That timetable makes sense to you?
Sure, why not?
I guess if you're braindead it makes sense
They say that the whale stuff is now FINDING all operations in Pandora. That would include acquiring Unobtanium.
Shouldn't it be renamed "obtanium" now?
This is unobtanium, thats why we're here
what else do you need to know
its like in the second film the general just says "earth is dying"
thats all you need
To be fair, in the first movie the dude says we killed out mothet, talking about earth
its some kind of super magnet so it probably has lots of uses in electronics, the rocks float because they have it in them or some shit
room-temperature superconductor
it can make cables with almost zero energy loss and super batteries
it is used to make room temperature superconductors
That guy calling it unobtanium would make sense if he was using "unobtanium" as slang for "this is really really expensive and everyone wants it", because he's a corporate guy who only cares about the supply and demand aspect of it and doesn't care about its scientific properties. But instead it doesn't have an actual name at all, and literally everyone calls it unobtanium, which is just stupid.
Unobtanium's apparently a real engineering term for "something thats perfect for a given purpose but its absurdly expensive or hard to get so you're gonna have to use something else", which sounds about right for a room temperature superconductor you need to do a 12 year round trip to an entirely separate solar system to acquire any.
Yeah, that's why it makes sense that he would say it. Unobtanium = it's insanely rare and expensive and it makes us a lot of money. Everyone calling it unobtanium even the scientists and it not having an actual name in-lore is what's deeply stupid.
I think the lore is that they started calling it Unobtainium as a nickname and then never came up with a better one and it stuck.
The lore is that the navi were once a highly advanced race that went back to monke on purpose because to them that's the purest and most ideal form of existence.
The planet is littered with remnants of high tech stuff they abandoned a long time ago and the entire planet (Eywa or whatever) is some super AI they set up way back when to help them facilitate their utopia.
Eventually humans are going to figure out that's the way to go and the navi will teach them to convert Earth into a similar paradise planet.
Source???
Biggest plot hole is why they didn’t glass the world tree/spirit tree with their ship’s thrusters on their return. Or actually carpet bomb the area from orbit with kinetic projectiles now that they have an entire fleet of spaceships.
The biggest plot hole is actually why didn't they just use nukes
Why bother with a nuke and all the radiation afterwards when you can just drop literal garbage on them?
Not allowed nukes because reasons, but hey - all the antimatter they need to push 100's of thousands of tons worth of space ships at extreme velocities across space. No big deal.
It was probably some RDA bean counter who did the risk vs reward cost analysis and decided that a delta v maneuver with the ISV fleet was fine to do.
back on earth the leftists are watching the mission very closely, there would be mass riots if they did that
>Leftists
"Yes Mining Pandora Will Stop Global Warming (And that's a Good Thing)."
Isn't this what they literally did in the first 10 minutes of the sequel?
That's why the unobtaining isn't brought up anymore. They literally landed their shit right on top of the site and mined it in a year once they stopped fucking around.
I thought that was the case, it's why the forest people had to relocate to the floating mountains
hah, i didnt catch that. does anybody here have a quick webm?
Slam dunk a Na'vi baby into the concrete
Just turn your brain off and consume the product, goyim.
The Unobtanium is what powers Eywa and allows her to exist. That's why it's under the Na'vi's most sacred sites where they connect to her. And why she specifically prohibited the Na'vi from digging up the metal. The humans of course want it all, which will kill her
Is this why the "sacred sites" look like big spider leg ruins that don't match the surroundings?
It's a room temperature superconductor
if the avatars don’t need it why they don’t just let the humans have it and then we can leave and explore the universe and they can sit around with their bongs and dildos in peace?
You’ve obviously never sat on an unobtanium dildo
>You’ve obviously never sat on an unobtanium dildo
It gives you the orgasm from taking a horse cock while needing you to only stretch a finger thickness. It's Earth's most prized commodity in the future.
Why doesn't the unobtanium flux mess with signals to Avatars like it does with other signals?
it does
in the first film, they have to move to the mountain camp to connect with the avatar in the magnetic zone
That's not why they do it, they move because Grace finds out from Max that Jake's being talking to Quaritch
I would think a substance with natural anti-gravitational properties would be useful in powering spaceships.
because they wanna obtain it
>you see this
>this is whats providing all your little reaction images
How come this shit wasn't even brought up in way of water?
It was supposed to be in the train but there's a lot of things this movie doesn't bring up. It skims its own surface.
figured the train might be floating thanks to unobtanium tech anyway
the planet will turn out to be entirely Clarktech
If you ask Cameron that question he'd probably say "never heard of it"
Is the floatiness a magnetic thing? Or does it have "negative mass". If it has negative mass then couldn't that be used for FTL travel? idk I'm not no stupid science bitch
its magnetic
Basically if you douse a superconductor with liquid nitrogen to cool it to a specific temperature, it starts to emit a repellent magnetic field which then causes any nearby magnets to levitate. This is the principle that maglev trains operate on.
The fact that Unobtanium doesn't need to be cooled like that means it is a room temperature superconductor, which would make maglev technology much more viable, and if used in a power grid it wouldn't end up losing energy because of the wiring's natural resistance to conducting energy, making things much more efficient than normal materials.
A room-temperature superconductor would also make nuclear fusion a much more viable energy source (big magnets contain hot plasma). The interstellar travel in the movie uses fusion engines, so that's another reason. superconductors are also important for developing quantum computers, which would likely be able to simulate or scan an entire human brain in real time (Avatar program). The mag-lev trains are just another use case, one that we can already build right now.
it was difficult to obtain
Why do they need to stop aging with the whale shit if they can just clone themselfs/ transport thier brain to a new body. Also every human should be perfect geniuses or super soliders as they can transport memories.
I don’t know what retards don’t get about this. If you transfer a copy of consciousness, you’ve made a clone. Your continuity of consciousness will still end and you will die. Literally how is this not the first thing you think about? Are people like you even actually conscious?
why would a gazillionaire able to buy youth serum make a clone of himself , if they havent already for safety
it's a status symbol , a luxury
also this might be me but I feel the general's personality changed a bit after being rebodied , he seemed more empathetic , at least towards his child
>no one here knows that unobtainium is a real life term, and has been since the 1950s
I knew this place was retarded but fucking hell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
Shhh annon, you are spoiling the plot for
Avatar III: the quest for the turbo encabulator
It's an inside joke the filmmakers put it because they think audiences are too stupid to know the word "unobtainable." It's like using the fucking Wilhelm scream as the macguffin.
should have been MacGuffium then
I like engineer anon's description of it better