AY YO PINOCCHIO
>racists absolutely fucking destroyed by a children's story
>zionists have to bastaridse and blackwash a fairytale to feel good about themselves
You people need to start committing suicide en masse.
>white people get offended that a story that has been remade a hundred times has a nonwhite character in it
>You can't just kill someone because they called you a word
>They said the N-word
>My apologies, sir. Go about your business.
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but you legally can't get away with killing somebody because they said a word. Inspite of the fact that you would solve most issues in society if you shot everybody who did.
Did you read the post I responded to? I was pretending to be in that magical world black people wanna live in where they can just kill someone for saying moron.
>Have black friend in high school
>He's not the stereotype
>Comes from a good family
>This fat redneck who lives with his grandma in a trailer walks up to him one day and says "hey moron"
>Friend ignores him and just keeps walking
>Redneck keeps yelling moron and chuckling to himself
>I ask why he didn't say anything
>"It's just a stupid word and why am I gonna fight the guy who lives in a trailer with his grandma?"
Imagine if they all thought this way
I hope he's doing okay
Is that why there's so much black on black gang violence? They call each other bro every 5 seconds
Same rule if you step on Nikes
>Obtuse casting decisions for a bald ass black actress for a character literally called the fairy with turquoise hair
They just don't even try anymore.
Interesting, I’ll remember how fragile I am the next time you all collectively chimp the fuck out over a word
Sure. If only you don't mind us laughing at you the next time you talk about the entire world being a conspiracy to stop you from breeding.
You’ve got hoteps, way more laughable than chuds imo.
morons destroyed the entire country over a dead drug dealer but we're the fragile ones for laughing at a shitty movie on a movie discussion board?
NOOOO HE WAS A SAINT
Whatever gay cope you want to use to address it, it's literally the only politically tactic that works in any capacity. There's a reason garden gnomes want to dominate intransigent radical strategy and discourage others from doing it.
>He thinks the fairy tale wasn't itself bastardized over thousands of tellings and a hundred generations
Tell me you're a 5 IQ without telling me.
It doesn't matter. This is live action remake of particular Disney cartoon version of it.
Jesus Christ, she doesn't even look like a tall person, she looks like she was stretched out like a cartoon character.
>mutts walk away from a burning museum
>"take that chuds ;^)"
If you let us make a majorly released Hollywood movie where either MLK or Nelson Mandela are played as white by white guys, and you don’t make a SINGLE peep about it, then I will forever shut up and never make a complaint about any politically correct/identity issues in a movie ever again. Hell. Make it something fictional like Black Panther. What do you say?
Didn’t think so dipshit
Learn the difference between a fucking children movie for children, and a movie about a actual adult figure like MLK and Nelson Mandela.
For what it's worth, and I know there isn't a movie yet, I do think Hamilton is actually fucking disgusting.
>Hell. Make it something fictional like Black Panther.
Another movie for children?
The fact that you admit that about Hamilton means your opinion doesn’t count. You’re basically a chud too, at least, as far as the people who would *actually* get mad about a white black panther would be concerned. You’re not wrong, you’re just not on the side of the conversation that you think you represent
>The fact that you admit that about Hamilton means your opinion doesn’t count.
>You’re basically a chud too, at least
I hate Hamilton because it tries to portray the founding of America as something it's not. Them all being black is offensive to me because I'm leftists, not in-spite of it.
Also, it's fucking childish in general and it pisses me off that a fucking musical is the closest you get to a critical take on the founding of America.
I believe you, anon, you aren’t wrong, but if you went on twitter and said that you would be see as “wrong”. If audiences all felt like you and films reflected that I really wouldn’t give a shit. But you already had people complaining about fantasy stories based on mythology from other cultures being “whitewashed” in tv and film and now we’re here. You aren’t the target of the fatigue I have with all this shit tbh. But currently in hollywood it’s okay to portray historical figures who were white as non-white whereas the opposite is a total no no.
>but if you went on twitter and said that you would be see as “wrong”.
Could be. But that's probably just as true if I started talking about my opinion on a lot of media regardless of the politics involved, and I frankly hate the site in general.
>But you already had people complaining about fantasy stories based on mythology from other cultures being “whitewashed” in tv and film and now we’re here.
I mean, if you want me to be completely and utterly honest I find most stories based on mythology to be trite in general, at least in the west. The fact that Percy Jackson, a literal children novel based on Harry Potter, is one of the better takes on mythology to come out the last few decades in-spite of the fact it is openly a attempt to Americanize Greek mythology. Simply because it's willing to engage with the themes of the original myths with a level of sincerity and, more importantly, understanding that is just not that common.
To bring that back to Pinocchio, I don't mind the idea of the blue fairy being black. I just wish the people making such a choice understood that choice. The blue fairy, despite supposedly being a fairy, is in practice basically a angelic being (In sharp contrast to the novel where she is a far more fae like trickster presence). Her role thematically is essentially a agent of god, casting such as a person as black can be meaningful if that is actually the intention of such a casting and it's portrayed accordingly. Now, granted, I haven't seen the movie yet. But most of the choices made in past Disney remakes have generally been extremely cynical. So, I'm prone to assuming cynicism and a general lack of understanding of the source material. So, I expect the worst.
The key point here is that I think a lot of the problem isn't so much whitewashing as much as culture... washing. To a certain extent you could argue that's what Disney has always done, going back as early as snow white. But I do feel it's gotten worse, at least the remakes. I also do think there is a fear of being too Christian, which is a shame since I think part of the reason why Fantasia and the Hunchback of Notre Dam work so well is because they are very Christian movies that understand Christianity thematically.
As for historical figures... Eh, it mostly depends on the subject matter and the seriousness of the work. To take a very, VERY weeb comparison. I'm not going to be mad that Francis Drake in Fate Grand Order is a women because it's Fate. It takes itself seriously a lot of the time and actually has more awareness of mythology and history than one would expect, but it still the story where the Greek Gods are literally giant robots and the probe voyager is a cute anime boy who hangs around a angsty fourteen year old demigod. It's silly, and aware of it enough that it's hard to really feel it washes anything.
By contrast, Hamilton honestly feels one step removed from doing a silly musical about the holocaust. Not to say the founding of America is the same thing as the holocaust, I dislike America but not even I'm willing to go that far. But they are both very serious events whose political consequences are felt even now in ways that are very real for a lot people. Frankly, if you want to talk about whitewashing, I would ironically enough say Hamilton is the perfect example. The subject matter is wholly unfitting for both the tone and intent of the story, and it just comes across as immature and childish as a result. Even Blackadder, a actual wacky historical comedy, understood a story about world war 1 kind of has to end with a massive downer.
Anyway, this turned into quite a fucking long rant. Despite my general disdain for identity politics I do have pretty strong feelings on mythology and history. Playing Eu4 and Shin Megami tensei at the same time probably melted my brain. Regardless, you do seem at least somewhat willing to talk about the subject seriously rather than just screaming about white genocide. So, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
>I don't mind the idea of the blue fairy being black
You're part of the problem.
As are you.
THEY CASTED ACHILLES AS A FUCKING BLACK GUY
THEY CASTED THE LAST VIKING KING AS A BLACK WOMAN
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>THEY CASTED ACHILLES AS A FUCKING BLACK GUY
>THEY CASTED THE LAST VIKING KING AS A BLACK WOMAN
It's funny that a pulp Iliad adaptation and Viking shit is the only thing you can think of when it comes to serious adult entertainment.
>moving the goalposts
It was historical figures first, now it's "serious adult entertainment"
The hypocrisy of the left in full display.
You’re comparing MLK to a fictional character.
You’re an autistic freak that lacks attention IRL, or you simply hate being the disappointment you are to your parents.
Either which way; here’s your truth.
the modern interpretation of that moron is fiction though, he was a commie and a rapist so it doesnt apply
>verification not required
>Heh....take that fucking chu-
>*Black guy bursts into cuckfags house, bashes his skull in, takes $100 worth of shit then leaves*
>leftist cattle subversed by mega corporations to praise the destruction and downfall of their culture
Shills always post first.
Kek, just because she's ugly doesn't mean she's a racist.
>Pisses and shits his pantsd until a children's story gets filled with ugly blacks
>Take that chuds!
Isn't crying about a black fairy fiction policing?
no, that's just having the pattern recognition part of your brain still intact and asking questions as to why characters keep getting blackwashed.
There is a clear invaded and a clear invaded.
A thief complaining about having the stolen goods recovered by cops is the same as the victim complaining about goods being stolen?
The fairy is white, invader
Or olive skinned since that's as dark as Italians get
Olive skin you would find many in south Italy, but that's all.
Americans think Italy = mediterranean = olive skin = brown (as in indian brown)
Pretty sure demanding POC hiring for a story taking place in not so ethnically diverse 17th-19th century Italy is fiction policing.
Black people are human beings
For your own sake I hope this is just a bait, If not then I have lost hope on you Anon.
It's a 200 year old story.
Culture is important, swine.
It’s a made up fictional story.
I know you don’t have a family that respects you, or peers that like you, or women that double take when you walk by… but I promise you living through fictional stories is the most cringe though you can possibly do.
Idgaf what color any of the actors are, and neither should you… but I have a life though.
Maybe that’s the difference
post a picture of you with your gf, you have 2 minutes, no reply means you're larping and accept defeat
any response that is anything but a picture with your gf is also an admission of defeat and I automatically win and your point is completely invalid
Truth stings a little bit.
You lack power IRL, so you troll online.
Duh. Hurts. I know.
Keep crying into the abyss, and see what happens.
I accept your defeat, closing the tab now so you can seethe uncontrollably and have me live rent free in your head for the rest of your life while I never think about you or your pathetic life that you larp about ever again, even in your online fantasies where you're a successful member of society you get BTFO by chads like me
btw my gf is pregnant and you will never be a woman
My ex Christine looks like that, she left her white husband of 10 years for being an obsessive compulsive masturbator.
I’m not lying, nor do I know how to spoil tag cause I’m not some fucking loser screaming into the abyss.
>nor do I know how to spoil tag
the absolute state of 4chin newfags
go back pathetic gay
>There’s that fag talk again
Sorry, I don’t live on the internet. I am going back outside though after I finish taking this shit.
Enjoy being a fucking afterthought the rest of your life.
I advise you to have a nice day immediately cringe gay
Why do grown and sexy ass white women of all ages send me lovely pics like this?
Is it cause my cock is thicker than her white boyfriends?
Maybe it’s the passionate way I plow that poon.
I just know that while you gays cry into the abyss online, us real ones are putting in work the fun way.
The wet stuff.
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Lol god I love watching you gays cry
considering americans go out of their way to seek european stories and replace the natives with non-whites, i'd say yeah "racists absolutely fucking destroyed by a children's story"
Learn the difference between a fucking children movie for children, and a movie about a actual adult figure like MLK and Nelson Mandela.
For what it's worth, and I know there isn't a movie yet, I do think Hamilton is actually fucking disgusting.
>Hell. Make it something fictional like Black Panther.
Another movie for children?
Can you explain why media for kids should be held to a worse standard?
Boy, racists really don't like being called as such. It's like a slur for them.
he's talking about the racist garden gnomes who hate white people, by the way
>It's now racist to question why a a grandma in a fairy tale is portrayed by a bald black man
Can china just invade us already? I'm done with the new normal.
>If you kill your enemy, they win.
Actually I feel a great deal of vindication.
And Chihuahua is a dog. Doesn't make it as smart as a German Shepherd.
Dogs were bred by humans, humans were not
>not bred by humans
Then where the fuck do we come from? Encino?
it’s spelled pinnochio brainlet
Actually not true. There's a theory that humans domesticated themselves after settling in cities. That's why we're more neotonic than chimps. Asians settled in communities earlier which is why they're the most neotonic race, followed by arabs, persians and poos. Europeans are in the middle because half of our genome comes from brutal horse riding nomads that were preying on settled cucks until 5000 years ago.
Nigs are the least neotonic because they never bred the non-civil traits out of their genome because of their sexual proximity structure.
1: Read up what Neotonics actually means. 2: Europeans are not descended from horse riding people for the most part. Only Hungarians and MABYE slavs. 3: Black people have had cities longer than white people.
I've bred your mother
>slaves never went through breeding selection for stamina, durability and compliance
White woman detected
White women are actually bred by dogs thoughever
literally me with my first girlfriend at 13
humans were not bred or selected by their environment? do you know why people near the equator are darder (more melanine) right?
or why all the marathon runners are from the same tribe in Kenya?
we are different, with different qualities, just like dogs.
Doesnt mean ww shhould trat people differently in regards to the law or with less respect, but not acknowledging our differences due to our origins is a mistake.
>humans were not bred or selected by their environment?
No because the environment doesn't select anything. It's not a person or God. Stop being a retarded darwinist.
>Chihuahua is a dog
But they are dogs, just google it
>And Chihuahua is a dog
do they account for 50% of maulings, though?
This was debunked by Snopes
Based. We are souls, not races.
Christ is king and it makes 4chan antichrists shit themselves. According to revelation, workers of inequity are specifically called out on their way to hell for having been such pieces of shit.
keep your christcuck gayry off this board
They just aren't the right human beings to play certain roles
It's funny because this reveals that not only do these people understand nothing about human genetics, but even dog races is too complex for them. Just more evidence for the subhuman evidence pile.
Human race is a rough indicator of intelligence. Im not even him but youre a sophist. We are talking not about scientific minutia or the differences between breeds of dog and races of humans, but about the hypocrisy we display when talking about innate shortcomings linked to intellectual capacity.
>Human race is a rough indicator of intelligence.
1: It's not. Not even VERY rough. At best it's a indicator of average IQ. Which is utterly meaningless anyway. 2: Race is a pseudo science. You genuinely have more of a somewhat reliable case going with ethnicities, but that's literally all memes and therefore inherently tied to economic factors.
>We are talking not about scientific minutia or the differences between breeds of dog and races of humans, but about the hypocrisy we display when talking about innate shortcomings linked to intellectual capacity.
No, you are talking about badly understanding genetics and believing in outdated pseudo science. If you want to talk about innate shortcomings, there are about a dozen less inane and nonsensical places you can go. The lack of meritocracy for starters, people that believe in race being able to vote as well.
Oh bro stop you know what you’re doing And you know this isn’t a gay academic debate. You basically conceded yourself (but are pretending not to acknowledge) that your comment about “ethnicity” is what people usually mean when they discuss this stuff. By any chance are you still in middle school or something? Have you not come across the term “colloquial” before? Then you try to hand-wave away any ethnic comparisons because “ethnicity is all just memes anyway”... oh like economic and other social factors aren’t ?? You’re a fucking pseud arguing only because your worldview depends upon believe fucking childish mantras from grade school
>that your comment about “ethnicity” is what people usually mean when they discuss this stuff.
Yeah, but my argument is that ethnicity as a concept is utterly untied from any genetics.
>h like economic and other social factors aren’t ??
That's my point. It's all memes, therefore all economic and social factors.
> You’re a fucking pseud arguing only because your worldview depends upon believe fucking childish mantras from grade school
I fucking wish my grade school taught me about meme theory.
Wait so... in that case, are you saying you don’t think there are any like, favoured traits within groups ? What would you consider a group that has enough shared to be able to make comparisons on a general scale? And if it’s just “immediate economic/social setting” then how come that is more important than ethnicity, especially given you’ve acknowledged they kind of go hand in hand?
I’m no eugenecist, But if say for example, Finns and Germans and Swedes are smarter than polynesian/Pacific Islanders... then I’ll acknowledge that.
Is your point basically “don’t generalize?”
>favoured traits within groups ?
Define groups to me. Ethnicities are purely memetic groups for the most part. Something like Class is not, since that is supported by actual material possessions.
>What would you consider a group that has enough shared to be able to make comparisons on a general scale?
See above. And also, you can be a group bound by mostly memetic concepts. It's even fine to make comparisons as long as you understand the causes are memetic not material.
>And if it’s just “immediate economic/social setting” then how come that is more important than ethnicity, especially given you’ve acknowledged they kind of go hand in hand?
Because ethnicity is memetic and therefore entirely the result of economic and social setting.
>But if say for example, Finns and Germans and Swedes are smarter than polynesian/Pacific Islanders... then I’ll acknowledge that.
Yeah, but my argument is that most of that is purely due to cultural developments. If you take somebody from Polynesia and raise them in Germany they aren't liable to do much worse than a native German.
>Is your point basically “don’t generalize?”
That and "Learn the difference between material reality and memetic developments." The most important thing for any given culture is meritocracy. Are the right people placed in the right place. Western culture, at least in the past, did actually have a pretty decent meritocracy.
Bro I read your first point and Im gonna stop there, you are saying that because there’s tangible proof of your class.. that counts but ethnicity/race doesn’t? If at the very least various physical features and genetic traits aren’t tangible/material to you then i don’t know what to tell you. Do I agree that environment/class is going to play a role on a higher order of magnitude than “race”? Yeah I think so, unless of course they happen to go hand in hand but that’s dependant on the society itself. But trying to argue that “well since society recognizes class differences and you get stuff to show for it, that counts, but you totally can’t argue that about race/ethnicity nuh uh.” Again, you do inherit trait from your parents which are influenced by a variety of factors, right? And would not some of those varietal factors be, in fact, making up the “ethnic group traits” of your ancestors? Are we just having a nature/nurture debate? Cause if we are I’m not biologist but I’d put nurture as generally more important but not totally so, maybe 60/40 or 70/30? And that’s only generally cause sometimes your biology does play a big part in how your life goes. But are you trying to say that the biology/nature aspect doesn’t matter at all? Or that it’s not at all related to/doesn’t influence the things we generally refer to as “racial/ethnic traits”?
>Bro I read your first point and Im gonna stop there, you are saying that because there’s tangible proof of your class.. that counts but ethnicity/race doesn’t?
There's material reality supporting class that there isn't for the purely memetic race. The nobility is the nobility, and it honestly doesn't really matter if they are English, German, Japanese, or Nigerian. Every one of them is united by clear and obvious material factors that simply don't hold up with any level of consistently when you look at race or ethnicity.
>Again, you do inherit trait from your parents which are influenced by a variety of factors, right? And would not some of those varietal factors be, in fact, making up the “ethnic group traits” of your ancestors?
Not really. Most people share DNA with ancestors of massively different ethnic groups. Which by itself is ignoring the fact that what exactly constitutes the memetic makeup of a ethnic group can change radically in a short spam of time. If you are French, you unironically have more in common with a person living in North Korea culturally than you do with your ancestors before the French revolution.
>Are we just having a nature/nurture debate? Cause if we are I’m not biologist but I’d put nurture as generally more important but not totally so, maybe 60/40 or 70/30?
Any attempt to define nature vs nurture along strictly categorial lines is a fucking waste because it ignores the severity of influences. Or, to put it simply, experiencing world war 2 is going to have more of a impact on you than being born in Polynesia.
>But are you trying to say that the biology/nature aspect doesn’t matter at all?
No, I'm trying to say you can't categorize it. At best you have family.
>material reality supporting class
>race purely memetic
You need to update your software. Western commies adopted Gramscis tactics to spread their bullshit, so your Marxism is no longer relevant.
No need. Marxism is still very relevant when it comes to it's understand of class, though I will admit it does need a update in certain respects.
Let me put it like this: Everybody knows that Bill Gates is rich. That is a simple fact, evident to anybody with eyes. Nobody can figure out who is white.
Fine I read the rest too, I don’t think I actually really disagree with your thinking, just the conclusions you’re drawing. Is seems like you have a mental block in accepting that to an extent all the things you say are factors can be influenced by, or in turn influence, that which we call race, or ethnic groups.
You said a Polynesian in Germany (from my example of course) would be unlikely to fare worse than a German, but , you fail to see how race/ethnicity are potential factors in his upbringing in Germany? What if he is kept in a community where he is not exposed to German schooling/culture/etc, and is continuing to learn and do things like back at home? In that case his ethnicity came into play and now he’s not going to be as smart as a German, but only as smart as a Polynesian (btw this is all just as an example- although I bet Germans are on average smarter just by virtue of them having a reputation for being smart)
Now you might argue that that’s arbitrary because he or his family could have made a different choice, but essentially something like class is also a choice, just at a higher social level. Society determines social structure and hierarchy and within that society people determine how the rules of those dynamics are to be followed, don’t they? I think that does prove that ethnic groups and class aren’t the same “weight” in terms of “determinant behavioural factors” but it doesn’t mean that your race/ethnicity doesn’t have any determination on your behaviour, does it? In myNo! His race played a part in determining his worldview/behaviour for him. I just don’t see how you can seem to think it’s quite as insignificant as you say
>You said a Polynesian in Germany (from my example of course) would be unlikely to fare worse than a German, but , you fail to see how race/ethnicity are potential factors in his upbringing in Germany?
Not really. It's why I added "liable". Ethnicity though is purely memetic, meaning that the effect they have on somebody is also purely memetic.
>but essentially something like class is also a choice
No, because you are either rich or you are not. The only time you could argue it's a choice is if you give up all of your wealth to go live as a hermit. Or you win the lottery and instantly donate all of it to charity.
>I think that does prove that ethnic groups and class aren’t the same “weight” in terms of “determinant behavioural factors” but it doesn’t mean that your race/ethnicity doesn’t have any determination on your behaviour, does it?
Again, I've said before that ethnicity does have a effect. But that effect is memetic in nature because ethnicity IS memetic. Race meanwhile has no effect because it's not real. At best you could argue it has a effect in the same way myths or religion have a effect. Insofar that people's believe in it has a actual material effect regardless of any reality.
If you want to boil it down to physical appearance, which I will even admit can be inherited from family members or geographical origin, then that's a very, VERY inconsistent influence. Being born black can certainly have a influence, but not nearly as much as say being born without a arm, or gay, or dead.
>ethnicity as a concept is utterly untied from any genetics
ok explain that to me
>race is a pseudoscience
lmfao fucking retard
Do me a favor: Try to categorize races in a way that doesn't collapse in on itself within seconds, moron.
Generally defined as peoples who originate from close environmental proximity in similar cultural groups, or the descendants of such. How does that collapse this applies very easily to anyone. It applies to any “race” you can think of , whether you divide generally by skin color or something more specific like “Hellenic” or “Arabic”. People do conflate race with religious groups sometimes (especially in the west when referring to garden gnomes and Muslims), but you can basically narrow that down to more distinct regional origins and then it works again. Unironically, stop thinking like such a privileged college-aged white girl
>Generally defined as peoples who originate from close environmental proximity in similar cultural groups, or the descendants of such. How does that collapse this applies very easily to anyone.
Because if you try to apply actual genetic science to it, or material reality for that matter, it simply doesn't hold up as a form of categorizes. With any attempt at doing so being nothing but finding excuses for endless exceptions.
>Last Viking king
Christ, read a book.
>B-But they might have been real.
Yeah, so was Gilgamesh. Doesn't mean the Epic of Gilgamesh should be taken as historical gospel on the actual guy.
Vikings were historical. Achilles and entire Greek Epic Cycle was based on real events which happened within scope of Greek civilization and was one of the bases of their culture. Both of these are part of the history and cultural identity of their modern descendants. So take your imbecilic rhetoric and shove it up your ass, you illiterate maggot.
>Vikings were historical.
Anon, if I made a movie about Skyrim or Khorne Chaos followers nobody would claim it was historical just because there were Vikings in it.
> Achilles and entire Greek Epic Cycle was based on real events which happened within scope of Greek civilization and was one of the bases of their culture.
It's mythologized history and we don't actually have much proof of the real players in the conflict. We know Troy exists, that's mostly it. What little we do know about Bronze Age Greece/Anatolia is nothing like the myths outside of that.
except the last viking king was a real person who is well documented to have existed
>our basis comes from mythology so since it’s fictional we can just make bro Hercules and even shove some MLP in it too
I mean, I wouldn't for the reasons I talked about above. But you totally could.
A lot of his story is pretty heavily mythologized. Like I said, we know Gilgamesh was a real guy as well. Probably not 1/3 god though.
if your reference material from ancient civilizations is solely based on mythology, you’re doing a poor job at adapting it
also, if all fictional work is subjective and canon doesn’t matter, you’re a shit writer
>if your reference material from ancient civilizations is solely based on mythology, you’re doing a poor job at adapting it
Yes. Which is why Achilles has no place in a historical story about Bronze Age Greece.
>also, if all fictional work is subjective and canon doesn’t matter, you’re a shit writer
I would say you are mostly a shit reader.
if you can bullshit your way out with “death of the author” then I can invoke “death of the reader” back
>if you can bullshit your way out with “death of the author” then I can invoke “death of the reader” back
What exactly is death of the reader then, according to you? Because I don't think any author would object to it.
intentional ignorance of what is established
>no author would object
for consumption? yes. but I don’t think they would all take input from someone who did this. some do and tank their IPs in the process.
Not that anon, but death of the author has to do with new meanings and interpretations can be found within a piece of text even when the author never intended it. Now that doesn't mean someone can just say "it means this" without backing up their claim. If you cannot connect it to anything that would give it that meaning, you're either misunderstanding something or just bullshiting. It's no different than discussing any piece of art. Say you made a character who was wise, kind and ends up dying via a sacrifice or killed by others through a violent misunderstanding, they're called a "Christ-like" character. It may not have been you intention to make a comparison to Christ, but the familiarities are there.
What a fucking loser you are.
Go to the gun range.
Mumble moron under your breath into your double chin or lack of jaw at the store.
Just get the fuck off the internet and go outside.
Don’t shoot up a grocery store though you gd freak of nature
>Because if you try to apply actual genetic science to it, or material reality for that matter, it simply doesn't hold up as a form of categorizes. With any attempt at doing so being nothing but finding excuses for endless exceptions.
How to say a lot about nothing. Race is heavily discouraged to look at through genetic science because of the current social climate. While social science relating to race is somewhat studied.
sickle cell anemia
Are you implying that race does not exist? That there are no general variations whatsoever between different groups of people?
>humans and dogs are the same
blacks are not people
blacks are not human
That's a fairy in the picture.
Should have cast you then.
Yes. Albeit frequently dumb and unattractive ones.
your wording and timings is odd, and i can only imagine you think the opposite and are pushing yourself to do this kind of posts.
Are you new here or something? No one here actually attempts to defend blacks here. They are effectively strawman posts.
Guess Texas is nothing but inhuman monsters then when looking at their gun laws.
shut up moron
When are they going to start acting like humans?
Being human is not a valid curriculum vitae, nor a free pass for roles
Why make her bald though
Don't blacks get mad when this happens? It's like their appearance doesn't matter because they are not even human or something like that.
No other race has to constantly convince themselves like this. Not even the dirty Muslims.
Subhumans at best.
As a Nazi I agree and I'm genuinely mortified by the dehumanizing term "bodies of color." Just because I don't want them living here doesn't mean I don't see them as people. They're just a different kind of people from my own. Shabbos leftists creep me out.
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>my work here is done good byyyye!
>where’s my pocket watch…
>I's make you a real boy Pinnochio
>Hey what the fuck? You made me black! You dumb bitch you only did 3/5ths of the job!
Geppetto could have made Pinocchio out of african blackwood.
Imagine this thing shows up in your home
I'd shoot it roght in its face specially if I were a 15yo girl
GEPPETTO HELP WE'RE BEING ROBBED
I guess like they took some of Guillermo Del Toro's notes of making it a horror movie
its not something im proud of but i fapped to zaawadi
>Black fairy curses wooden puppet boy with giant Black nose
Fuck America for pushing ugly morons. Thanks god you're a dying empire.
Most Americans don't support this kind of shit, but you already know that you dumb foreigner.
Americans have zero say in his their system (public or private) runs, so it's hard to care about what they think. They're basically just occupied people who act like it by always policing their own language and looking over their shoulders, but don't acknowledge it
I don't have a problem with her being black. I have a problem with her being ugly and bald. What the fuck? There are tons of amazingly beautiful black women out there in the world. How did Disney manage to avoid all of them?
This. It's just silly. Like of course this is what the Blue Fairy looks like in current year. It's not even a character I'm particularly attached to, but they keep playing into the same exact stereotype of making a side character an "alternatively beautiful" black woman/gay.
Like, I know she's not everybody's favorite, but shit, even Tessa Thompson would be an improvement over this.
No she wouldn't. Yow just replaced one ugly woman for another.
We spoiler gore on this board.
They could have had Zoe Seldana or something
Because that's not the point. ~~*They*~~ didn't want someone people might be okay with. They wanted the most ugly, offensive looking "woman" that couldn't be further from the truth if they tried.
If you really somehow have not noticed by now, visual media is no longer about adhering to aesthetics or consistency in character design, it's about placing the biggest ugliest stinking moron smack-dab in your face to challenge every single preconception you have or that anyone in the Western World has had for the last century, then dares you to have a problem with it lest you be devoured by inane SJW shite.
>consistency in character design
The Blue Fairy doesn't even exist in the original story.
Please rub your only two brain cells together and find the words VISUAL MEDIA in my post, it might help you understand, retard.
My point is she isn't some quasi-historical character like Robin of Locksley, or even some olde children's fable like Hansel or Gretel.
She was inserted into the original cartoon to appeal to a demographic, and re-envisioned (poorly, sure) to appeal to a different demographic.
She's not essential to the story, in the original he just becomes animated because reasons.
>My point is she isn't some quasi-historical character like Robin of Locksley, or even some olde children's fable like Hansel or Gretel.
Doesn't have to be, never suggested she was, don't know what makes you think this matters in any way to anything. MY point is that she was only made into a fugly NB nignog for no other reason than appealing to a demographic whose absolute sole interest in reboots like these is to see fugly nogs replace white people for their cantankerous amusement.
>MY point is that she was only made into a fugly NB nignog for no other reason than appealing to a demographic whose absolute sole interest in reboots like these is to see fugly nogs replace white people for their cantankerous amusement.
Not a bad thing if there's enough money in it I suppose. The Saw movies hardly appealed to everyone, there's lots of crap I will never watch but goes on to be sequelized.
>unfiltered bad content isn't bad
There is no place for that shit
New demographics can have their own stories and gtfo from existing stories from og demographics.
What are they? Inferior?
haven't you heard? beauty is a white cis male bigot nazi fascist european lovecraft's cat hater cracker construct. bald black women with flat, wide noses, gigantic nostrils and apeish facial proportions are the new ideal (and that's a good thing!)
Because they hate beauty and white people, wokeness is a neurotic pseudo religion centered around self hatred and jealousy
>watching the Pinocchio teaser
>this fairy comes up
Is this one of those edgy horror remakes? Because that's fantastic if so
Can't just cast anyone to play a fairy. Got to cast a fairy to play a fairy. You know, representation!
I don't care about the Blue Fairy but wtf about how now there's girls on pleasure Island? The whole point was it was for naughty boys who enjoyed drinking and gambling and fighting all that shit. I guess it's not relevant to today's kids anymore, but what's going to replace it? Just a generic ass carnival? Because it's exactly what they'll do in the name of modernizing the story
Have you considered that the idea might be that there are naughty girls as well?
Damn bratty girls...
Why is Samuel L Jackson playing a fairy
Italianx are bipoc, having bipoc folkpersons in a bipoc children novel shouldn't cause this levels of triggering.
Try saying that to actual Italians.
I dare you.
I am italianx though, like actual italianx living in italy not the burger discount kind of italianx and we are 100% bipoc.
Cope seethe and hand over reparations
ma vaffanculo coglione
Il meccanismo di coping: è iniziato
Italians are as black as a Hispanic is a moron, there was no african Black like that one in 20th century Italy or whenever the fuck this old ass tale is set in.
Matter of fact, there were no morons in Italy at all up until the 80s.
you have to understand americans are phisically unable to understand other countries not having morons, anything that isn't porcelain skin=moron, they're absolutely obsessed. They spend a whole month every year worshiping them after all
this is fake right
>ay yo so you wanna be the hottest bitch on the street?
>smickety smackity smack now ho deal me some crack
>dont make me come over and smack yo bitch ass up
>now wheres my money ho, fairy godmother don't bling your ass up for free, this ain't charity
Nothing is sacred anymore
>pinocchio is CGI
why not use an actual puppet if you're doing a live action version
why they cast bald ugly jungle women, cast beautiful ones so i can imagine sex them
>We need to stop racism
>Now heres this bald ugly caricature
Collodi is rolling in his grave right now.
Whoa, tone down the racism fren. The correct terminology is "person of color."
Eh... I would say they were WAY weirder on average. The pale uncanny valley-ish ones that were only into you because they wanted to drink your blood/lifeforce were the exception rather than the norm.
pinocchio fairy by Collodi not some folk notion
Oh, the original Pinnochio fairy was actually somewhat close to the English folklore idea of pixies. Being somewhat benevolent tricksters. The Disney movie just made them a straight up angelic agent from god. Unironically, pic related is probably the closest.
have a nice day
Bite me, it's a decent example and I want to fuck Pixie.
For what? For telling you how the original fairy looked?
DS Pixie is my wife.
Leave our fucking stories alone, garden gnomes. Same for you morons, get your own goddamn stories
>Same for you morons,
Blacks aren't behind this shit, I bet
Pinocchio is in the public domain, fuck off gay, they can do whatever they want.
>btw we’re not racists to the Obi Wan actress
gimme yo muffukin efferiumz
Whatever. Guile Del Toro is going to do a proper adaptation. Hopefully we'll finally see Pinocchio's lifeless puppet body nailed to a tree on the big screen.
Stop being racist, Doreen
average leftist reaction when they see a black person on tv, except they're smiling while crying.
I am convinced angloids, nordoids, and amerimutts are a plague of mental illness upon humanity
Why can't you make your own stories instead of adapting stories from those people you despise so much?
>The Adventures of Pinocchio (/pJˈnoʊki.oʊ/ pi-NOH-kee-oh; Italian: Le avventure di Pinocchio [le avvenˈtuːre di piˈnɔkkjo]; commonly shortened to Pinocchio) is a novel for children by Italian author Carlo Collodi,
absolutely have a nice day you fucking dumb gay amerimutt
Do you actually think souther Europeans are on your side or something? You think Italians are somehow fine with blackwashing their stories and only anglos and nordic people have a problem with it?
I hate morons and I hope the amerimutts responsible for this and other blackwashes perish in a housefire.
This kills the sjw redditor
Why do only 13% of Fairies commit 60% of all curses????
I have a more uptodate cultural representation of your meme
What did you do to my boy?
That's fine, but you're going to have to retcon the invention of bikes into the era or he'll have nothing to steal.
fixed it for you, anon
Cause the remaining 87% legalizes a crime before they do it.
>blue hair fairy
>pick a bald woman
forget her being an ugly moron, what the actual FUCK did they mean by this???????????????
literally a black nosferatu lmao this was considered a horror movie villain 100 years ago.
Holy fuck black men really look like that in current year, Tariq was right
who this, Jada Smith?
Black washing. Tiresome. etc. etc.
Literally don't care at this point
These live action remakes have had a ton of opportunities to do creative and interesting things and instead they're all either taking a giant shit on the material like Jungle Book or just doing shot for shot remakes. If you're not going to do anything creative and interesting that actually compliments the source material then it's just soulless moneymaking regardless of how many morons they pack into it or not.
>I dindu nuffin
They could have at least given her hair, going all out on the inclusivity.
man morons are fuckin ugly
>13% of the population
>Has to be in 100% of the movies
that shit it's nightmare fuel how fucking ugly are these things
Why didn't they cast an Italian?
Where is her hair?
>wow, that is one ugly ass fairy
if she was white and looked like that, I would say the same thing
They themselves know that isnt as likely so they project the known stereotype of black women being less attractive solely on your opinion
You're arguing with the mentally ill. They're not normal and live to be outraged. Ask yourself why people who don't think like you come to a forum to complain why you don't think like them. Pure mental illness.
WE WUZ FAIRIES N SHIET
Tired of seeing men wearing dresses
>actually i dont care that she's black!!
This is why you are losing. Pinocchio takes place in early 1800s Italy. There were very few if no black women in italy at the time. You are capitulating with people who have no end-game. They will drive this all the way to infinity until the historical record is a farce and up is down
>There were very few if no black women in italy at the time.
She's not a black woman, she's a quasi-mythological supernatural plot device. She didn't sail up the Med. sea to fuck wit puppets, she beamed in from Dimension X.
It's a white character.
You don't get to decide otherwise, you disingenuous woketard
>She's not a black woman, she's a quasi-mythological supernatural plot device
She's LITERALLY a black woman.
No, she's portrayed by a black woman, like Gamora is. Her character is not a sub-saharan African descendant.
Here's your gold medal in mental gymnastics
So this beautiful white character is portarayed by a black ugly token and that's bad. And political
So when someone makes a movie with Mami Wata and she's white, you'll be fine with it right? It's just a mythological supernatural plot device, right?
>NO NO NO NO THAT'S FUCKING DIFFERENT SHITLORD CHUD THAT IS NOT THE SAME BECAUSE FUCK WYPIPO
There were very few if no blue fairies in italy at the time. Yall craKKKa ass mayo ass craKKKas aint got no sense
You're right. If we made a movie set in africa pre-colonialism, it would make total sense for a random white guy to portray a tribal shaman because shamans arent real and ethnic homogeneity was never a thing. We've always been a multi-cultural melting pot.
Shamans are real you ignorant stupid craKKKa, and it's not that widespread in Africa, did you mean to say djinn?
>gnomish claws scratched this post
>can't argue for shit
>y-you must be gnomish
yes little goy, that's how you know you can't compete
If the shaman has actual magic is not real, therefore he can be white
>yes shamans are real
>but shamans who do actual magic aren't real
>therefore they can be something else entirely
Chuds who make good points aren't real therefore a black woman can portray a chud who makes good points
I've been shitposting but really, you guys are fucking retarded, you can't even win an argument against a shitty troll who isn't even trying, you can't even argue correctly and get sidetracked into making nonsensical points that don't hold up. It's just embarrassing.
If someone responds that, "Well, there were no fairies, either!" then they've already conceded your point.
>if you point out what's wrong with his argument you lose
She's a fairy
Eat shit and shoot a grocery store because you cant breed, channer incel
She's a moron and YWNBAW. morons got butthurt when white actors were cast in the "Gods of Egypt" movie, so you don't get to pretend that raceblind casting works for supernatural beings in European stories. Death of the Author isn't real.
You can't breed either because you cut off your reproductive organ
I'm kinda exited to see Maxi Jazz perform in the new pinocchio to be honest
>catch yo ass lata wood boy I gosta catch dat bus fo is gone
morons are subhuman, I say this and I'm not even white
Just look at that fucking thing
why do I find black women so fucking ugly in the face but desperately want to watch my thick white cock plunge deep inside their comically large asses?
>Pinocchio isn't in the trailer
>Directed by Robert Zemeckis
>Direct to Disney Plus with no theatrical run
How fucking hideous is that puppet going to be in motion?
Be honest, who would you have saved?
Porco dio, I hate amerigarden gnomes like you wouldn't fucking believe.
I hope they keep shooting up schools until there's no one left.
You know, if you had your own life, you wouldn't feel so triggered by the dumb shit other people are doing.
I do, and Pinocchio is one of the tales I grew up with.
Seeing it defiled by your grubby, snake oiled hands makes me retch.
I wish you all the worst, garden gnome.
classic overcompensating dicklet on the right
probably drives a truck kek
GI JANE 2 CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT
Do you guys think the execs cast morons in human roles to be PC, to troll rights, or to racebait
blacks are not European folklore fairies
this kills the chud garden gnome
Is this the creature Will Smith dates?
No this one isn't purely bones like Smith's
evil cannot create. they only take what good has made and then destroy it.
>there are trannies and le ebin trolls defending zionists
i hope you remember you posts when the day of judgement comes. you will not be spared.
Leftoids are proving what a joke they are yet again by defending a multi-billion dollar corporation as long as they put morons in their product.
>SUFFER ME NOW
zesty bros stinkin up the thread with their bussy juice tho
AYO PINOCCHIO IS IT TRUE 6 MILLION garden gnomeS DIED DURING TO HOLOCAUST?
PENOKEYO IMMA BE GOANG TURN YO BITCH-ASS INTO A REAL BOY NO CAP
Can't wait for Pinochio to begin as a girl puppet and then give birth after turning into a boy
Buratino chads > Pinocchio virgins
AYYOO ,AYOO YO YO YO
WERE DE CRACK BE AT
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