I find it hilarious when people say Azula's a war criminal.
Considering the way she took Ba-Sing-Se, which was pretty much bloodless and quick, I wish more war criminals were like her.
In any military court, i'd think she'd be acquitted in the first hearing.
Azula was no saint, sure, but she's as much of a victim of Sozin's hubris as anyone else.
And Iroh's "She's crazy and must go down" comment has forever made me hate him as a character.
What exactly is Azula's crime?
Being rude?
Killing Aang? Doesn't count she got rezed
She has one of the lowest k/d's in the show
>What exactly is Azula's crime?
Not being bred by her brother.
But if she does frick her brother that is also a crime, dammed if you do dammed if you don’t.
It's just breeding for bloodline purposes, royal duty and all.
It only becomes a crime if they admit their felings which of course doesn't exist.
>which of course doesn't exist
She was just being professional here because the FL was neglecting his night duties.
Jesus, what? Is that dialogue actually from the show?
yes
It's not a crime, fricking your brother is an accomplishment.
And stop
Don't care she's hot
But she ain't a gay
You virgin freak
Deal with it
Nature says she's ready to frick.
not being bred by me*
FTFY
>hasnt fricked grey de lisle at some convention yet
Kek
Pic or it didn't happen.
>Killing Aang? Doesn't count she got rezed
You realize attempted murder is still pretty bad.
It was a war. He was an enemy. What do you think she was supposed to do? Shake her fist angrily at him?
As if they hadn't been trying to kill her.
Bro.
Its fricking war.
Don't pretend to be the good guy then. All I'm saying.
>Don't pretend to be the good guy then. All I'm saying.
kek
start shit get hit Black person
putting down a mad dog aint a bad deed
Cope hitlerite
No murder in war time
>As if they hadn't been trying to kill her.
They literally weren't. Did you not watch the series finale where Aang's no-kill rule was a focal point?
> trying to kill her
My brother in Christ Aang is a pacifist.
Pretty sure those FN soldiers that got flung from the northern air temples are dead though
>pacifist
'Cause participation in a war screams pacifist
> Murder isn't simply the act of killing someone. It's a legal term that defines an unlawful killing. The adjective unlawful makes all the difference. One person shooting another on the streets may be murder, but on the battlefield it's condoned.
>In a war in which the involved parties have all openly declared hostilities, killing enemy soldiers on the battlefield is legal. Since murder is illegal by definition, killing a soldier on the battlefield in a war can't be murder. A soldier who kills an enemy under the rules of war isn't a murderer.
Aang is by definition a peacekeeper. Killing a peacekeeper in a war would absolutely be considered murder. Azula has no chance.
>Aang
>When the world needed him most; he vanished.
Azula did nothing wrong. Avatars get what they deserve. Even the Fire Nation believes they're doing some good by conquering the world.
Aang knew his destiny but was able to run away because no one cared to watch the human "stop-gap" between the world and destruction. The world deserved its fate for putting all their trust into one human they deified as the harmonizer of the elements.
>The Air Temples
DEAD because of Aang.
>Monk Giyatso
DEAD because of Aang.
>Sokka and Katara's mother
DEAD because of Aang.
>Jet's parents
DEAD because of Aang.
>Iroh's son.
DEAD because of Aang.
Ask why the avatar left the world in hell and not to save it from the hell they created. Endless reincarnations all lead to this point.
>The weak link in a mighty chain shattered the balance of the world.
Any and all who cry out to the avatar should cry out to the Air Nomads. Their silence is your answer.
harming avatar might as well be illegal by international law, considering that now avatars are literally carry the spirit of all good in them
Iroh said that after she almost killed him.
Hearsay
Fighting a war here anon.
When was it said she was war criminal in universe?
It's not said not so much in the show itself, but it's a common sentiment in within the fandom.
>When was it said she was war criminal in universe?
>It's not said not so much in the show itself, but it's a common sentiment in within the fandom.
Suki in the Search calls Azula and Ozai Zuko's prisoners while Mai in Smoke and Shadow laments Zuko taking Azula out of her prison.
Like the comics never treats Ozai and Azula as Zuko's political prisoners, so, considering the fact they didn't break any FN laws, the only reason why they are imprisoned is due to being judged of war crimes by Aang.
>I find it hilarious when people say Azula's a war criminal.
>Considering the way she took Ba-Sing-Se, which was pretty much bloodless and quick, I wish more war criminals were like her.
>In any military court, i'd think she'd be acquitted in the first hearing.
Recruitment of child soliders (Ty Lee and Mai), Pedfry (her false surrender to the Gaang), condoning the torture of prisoners (Suki, Alone), suggesting, helping plan, and fully intending to carry out a genocide (Sozin's Comet.)
Like Azula is a victim of a war crime herself, Ozai using her as a child solider, and probably shouldn't be as harshly judged as Ozai or the Rough Rhinos. But she isn't innocent and mostly likely would be treated like an adult due to the severity of her crimes/her authority.
>Azula was no saint, sure, but she's as much of a victim of Sozin's hubris as anyone else.
Yeah, but so are Ozai, Azulon, Lu Ten, and pre-redemption Iroh and Zuko. But no one gives them an excuse for their actions, so why should it excuse Azula's?
>pre-redemption Iroh and Zuko
Lol
Its I'm sure the families who lost loved ones in Iroh's bloody siege are so thankful he's redeemed. Oh and Zuko got redeemed because Uncle Iroh replaced his dead son with Zuko. Poor Azula was shit out of luck and had nobody.
>Recruitment of child soliders (Ty Lee and Mai)
She is a child soldier herself
>Pedfry (her false surrender to the Gaang)
Hearsay, can't prove it
>condoning the torture of prisoners (Suki, Alone)
Too bad!
>suggesting, helping plan, and fully intending to carry out a genocide (Sozin's Comet.)
Try saying no to Ozai
of child soliders (Ty Lee and Mai)
>She is a child soldier herself
Massive mitigating factor, but it still doesn't absolve her.
(her false surrender to the Gaang)
>Hearsay, can't prove it
Iroh, Zuko, Aang, Katara, Sokka, and Toph can all testify. And if ATLA's legal system is anything like our's, they probably have hearsay exceptions that can (probably) get their testimony admitted.
the torture of prisoners (Suki, Alone)
>Too bad!
So are you conceeding on this point or not? (Honestly, I can't tell, sorry)
, helping plan, and fully intending to carry out a genocide (Sozin's Comet.)
>Try saying no to Ozai
Literally Iroh, Jeong Jeong, Piandao, Chey, Zuko, Mai, and Ty Lee's arcs are about how just following orders is not a good excuse. So Azula can't just say she was following the orders of supreme soverigin who has shown multiple times a willingness to maim and/or kill his own son.
>Lol
>Its I'm sure the families who lost loved ones in Iroh's bloody siege are so thankful he's redeemed.
Anon, I am not saying that Iroh's redemption is all that great. All I am saying is that pre-redemption Iroh is just as much a victim of Sozin's hurbris as Azula is, but no one would sympathize with him, so why should they sympathize with Azula.
>Oh and Zuko got redeemed because Uncle Iroh replaced his dead son with Zuko. Poor Azula was shit out of luck and had nobody.
True, and I hope Azula eventually gets the help she needs and redeems herself, or at least finds peace. But we are taking about war crimes, not about the direction we think Azula's character should take or how unfair it is that basically every single decent adult was either powerless and/or didn't care enough about her to shield her from Ozai's influence.
>but it still doesn't absolve her.
It does, but whatever
>And if ATLA's legal system is anything like our's
It isn't
>So are you conceeding on this point or not?
She didn't do it her self so...
>are about how just following orders is not a good excuse.
But it is an excuse
>who has shown multiple times a willingness to maim and/or kill his own son
Like he wouldn't do the same to Azula
>false surrendering
Doesn't Aang commit such a thing on the literal ep2 of the series?
Also, pretty sure Sokka blew up a war balloon while wearing a fire insignia
> the only reason why they are imprisoned is due to being judged of war crimes by Aang.
Victor's justice.
Nothing any of them did would be war crimes because the Geneva Convention doesn't fricking exist in the Avatar Universe.
Lol, this
And also daily reminder, that the most disgusting and pathetic creature there is fat tealover. Too weakwilled to win the war, denying all the sacrifices made by his ordinary people, too scared to confront his brother and really try himself fix everything, he believes is wrong or even just confront anyone before they did something wrong. Only way he didn't end on the chopping block dragging Zuko with him with his world in ashes because of unreal amount of dumb luck and scenaric help.
someone wasn't paying attention in the final few episodes. Iroh could not take his brother down because it would only be seen as another power grab by a member of the royal family. Zuko, endorsed by the avatar, could lead the new era of the fire nation.
Iroh was literally too weak to stop Ozai, moral soup he served Zuko was just a bonus
>Iroh could not take his brother down because it would only be seen as another power grab by a member of the royal family
That's one of the shittiest and pathtic excuses i ever read. Clinging to hollow symbolism and covering your missteps by empty moralizing while your hands are literally soaked with blood of whom he killed directly and inderectly.
Yikes, that ebese bastard is so hideousю
By whom? Everyone was fricking smiling when Zuko was getting half his face burnt, going on a life or death battle against your mentally unstable sister when like two months before were considered a traitor on your homeland isnt a good move either no matter if he's with the Black persontar, S3 really started to lose the plot and the series never recovered from it.
>Everyone was fricking smiling when Zuko was getting half his face burnt
Only Zhao and Azula where smiling, everyone else had neutral faces.
>S3 really started to lose the plot and the series never recovered from it.
The problem with S3 imo is that the first half has too many "filler" episodes when they should have used them to flesh out Azula, Mai, Ty Lee, and Ozai and the back half of S3 doesn't have enough episodes to make Zuko's acceptance into the Gaang more of a slow burn considering everything he had done to them as better set up Azula's fall to madness.
>and the back half of S3 doesn't have enough episodes to make Zuko's acceptance into the Gaang more of a slow burn
Frick no, his scene kneeling down begging forgiveness for Katara is easily one of the most pathetic scenes on the series, not as bad as Sokka begging Suki to crossdress him, but still. Genuinely glad the FN is still the only acceptable place on the world, the only nation that's actually contributing something to the world, the beach episode shows it got his couple of useless citizens though
>Frick no, his scene kneeling down begging forgiveness for Katara is easily one of the most pathetic scenes on the series
Anon, he literally hunted them across the world attempting to either kill or capture them, helped with the coup of Ba Sing Se that ended with Aang dead, and sent an assasin to kill them.
Like Zuko is lucky all Katara did was splash Zuko with water telling him to leave instead of killing or maiming him.
he's got muh pretty boy priviliege
That's because they decided to kill him slowly by the comics just to lake the poor guy suffer by treating him like a schizo
Suki also agreed, but her method is to suck him off until he's sore
Yeah, that's infiltration, basically the plot for S2 with Iroh and Zuko while the gaang does the same but on the FN by S3
Iroh, Zuko and the Gaang were not acting on behalf of a military organization, nor were they wearing military uniforms. The closest the Gaang got to committing a war crime was when they stole a Fire Nation ship and wore their uniforms in order to pass the Fire Navy without being attacked, and even then the only actual war criminals in that case would be Hakoda and Bato because they are the closest thing to formal combatants operating in that capacity.
Even so, they could argue-- however tenuously-- that they were not performing a military action while in stolen uniforms, and only did so in order to safely transport the Avatar, who is not a member of any Nation or military.
No matter what, those actions are only barely comparable. Azula acted entirely in aggression, while they were trying to save the Avatar.
Doesnt Sokka fricking blow up a war FN balloon while wearing a FN insignia?
That's true, albeit accidentally and as a civilian rather than a member of a formal military. By the standard of "did X character commit a war crime by real life standards," we'll say that Sokka, Azula, Hakoda and Bato all committed war crimes. That doesn't not make Azula a war criminal by said standard, though.
You can add Ty and Mai on that list since they followed Azula.
Tbqh, I always thought while watching the series that Katara was the closest one to commit irl war crimes rather than Azula or her brother.
>my dad is a war criminal
>Iroh, Zuko and the Gaang were not acting on behalf of a military organization
Literally worked for a earth kingdom general for a while, keep coping.
started*
Didnt Iroh started to be seen as a traitor by the end of S2-start of S3 due to him working for the EK?
>Iroh could not take his brother down because it would only be seen as another power grab by a member of the royal family. Zuko, endorsed by the avatar, could lead the new era of the fire nation.
But no one in the Fire Nation outside of FN White Lotus members give a frick about the Avatar. In fact, they think he is part of the demonic air nation.
So in the Fire Nation's eyes, it would just look like another power grab by a member of the royal family. Besides, considering Iroh allowed Katara to escape with Aang's body in Ba Sing Se, couldn't Iroh also get an endorsement by Aang.
Avatar is based on chinks, if you've read chink military history then you'd realize "war crime" would be a laughable concept to them.
True. These swarms are ruled by the rules of nature, not some fictional trash.
do you think she likes anal though
no.
She won't ask you to stop.
She 14 y old.
Zucestgays need to frick off.
No.
Whaaaaaaaat? You mean you don't enjoy some shitposting c**ts ruining every fricking thread with their degenerate fetishy coomer bullshit? You cray-cray, man! You so cray-cray!
This
I hate zucest because i want to breed her instead
Self-insert as Zuko
Sod off israelite
You sod off. Based Caesar doesn't self-insert.
Ceasar is in hades rn, don't bother him
>>self insert as zuko
>self insert as an overly emotional, mind numbingly idiotic momma's boy who just wants his daddy's validation
Yeah, neah
I would never make the same dumb choices he has
People self insert as Shinji, so why not Zuko?
Medicore edit
you mean a troubled badboy that might have been a violent brute at times but his heart was in a right place and every girl wanted to try and fix by drowning him in pussy?
>I'm CoNfLiCtEd and don't know who I am!!!
Zuko is for 14-year-olds to insert into.
Isnt Zucest whole kink is muh strong bloodline 4 lala breed?
Nah, self-inserting is cringe
>muh breeding fictional character fantasy
>pic of a guy that got gangbanged on public by his gay adopted son and his 39 friends to death
?
The dragon parade episode was stupid as it gets, really dont know how fujos didnt get excited for this
A man can be killed by a single individual. It took over 30 to kill Caesar.
>every girl
You've read too much fanfiction.
>You've read too much fanfiction.
*not enough
surely you have to be baiting
literally everywhere Zuko goes, there are girls drooling over him
besides there are plenty of 3D women drooling over him too
Zuko is boring, what even is his personality?
>"me angry about muh scar!"
>"me want catch avatar so daddy take me back!"
>"me likey cold, emotionally dead girl!"
>"me fight good"
His dick, at least for femgays
Ozai already got canonically cucked my guy by a blank page of a character and his own son
>ozai already got cucked
Not really, both of them were his
Even if azu weren't his daughter, id still want to rail her harder than a 1800s railway worker
He did, the aftermath comics introduce a third one called Kiyi.
This one's fricking funny kek
Kiyi's age matches perfectly with the last night Zuko was with his mother,........ in his bed.
>B-B-Brutus y-y-you too!
A bit pathetic innit moite.
At least he didnt beg.
Doesnt Zuko has his own tag at the bleachbooru?
>Doesnt Zuko has his own tag at the bleachbooru?
Only 4 posts, but yeah
>bleachbooru
Go back aco.
Not even that, it got banished to /trash/, I am not sure if I even like it anymore, it used to be that based porn site where you could talk about other stuff but it just got dull of roleplayers.
Yeah just checked, 3 of them is him impregnating Katara, Sokka and Aang also have their tags but they're getting cucked, there are no fricking tags for Kyoshi, shameless for a raceplay site.
Katara already fullfils the role of 'colored girl that wants to suck the enemy's pale skined wiener'
no, the trio actually balances out well in that regard; Mai enjoys anal, Azula insists on being bred, and Ty Lee loves sucking dick.
Only when she's taking it from me.
Who actually likes anal?
Unlike a pussy the ass is only tight around the sphincter.
War crimes are defined by the winners of the war.
The United States' obliteration of Dreseden, and the use of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, would have been considered war crimes if the Allies had lost World War II.
But they didn't, so they aren't.
What is with this generation and wanted to call anyone who lose the only one guilty of war crimes by un standards? The atomic bomb on those two cities was to end the war with the Japanese sort of gave up years ago it cut the wall sought by months and say millions of lives.
fricking proofread your shit before you hit post. jesus. you can solve a captcha but can't type a legible post?
Because continuing your logic the spoken "war crimes" doesn't even exist, every action in war, crippling your enemeis cuts human losses at least on your side and surely brings closer end of war.
If the Krauts didn’t want Dresden to be bombed, they shouldn’t have bombed others cities first.
Oh, great. Lefty/misc/ has arrived. Just as bad as the Zucestgays.
Not sure if that's supposed to be Charles de Gaulle or not...
yeah playing football with chinese babies' heads is okay, mofo the japanese were in need of a 15 megaton wakeup call to remind them trying to half of asia isn't ok. had the allies lost the war the term 'war crimes' wouldn't exist because the axis glorified war and sought total war
>because the axis glorified war and sought total war
What's so bad about it? Total war is very good game series, ill be glad, if they have support of entire countries, maybe then the'll fix all problems and deliver quality contant.
Oh man it's been a while since I had to bust out this image.
>Killing innocent people is always bad, even when in-group does it
>Why are you defending out-group killing innocent people, hypocrite
>And Iroh's "She's crazy and must go down" comment has forever made me hate him as a character.
Legacy of the Fire Nation makes that line look horrible asf, but if you only take into account the TV show and comics, he said that only after Azula has repeatedly tried to kill him and Zuko on Ozai's orders. For as long as she and Ozai are in power, there is nothing he can do to sway her. Hence why, in the comics, he convinces Aang to let her go on the search for Ursa since it might bring her peace.
She does commit incest so thats a problem.
Man frick you really
Problem?
She 14 y old.
And?
none at all
the ending we deserved
Best porn comic ever
Unironically wholesome
genuinely more in character than the official comics
I am more surprised how the Royal Family hasnt comitted incest before
I don't think the avatar would be enough to end the fire kingdom
OH STOP PRETENDING YOU CARE, YOU JUST WANT TO FRICK HER, ZUKO!
She 14 y old.
LITERALLY prime breeding age.
Azula's place on the Totem pole of FN war criminals, Azula's places is relatively low.
The thing is, what are "War crimes" in the Avatar world? Because before things like the Geneva convention and treaties of a similar nature, there was no such things as war crimes.
So, unless there are such treaties that exist in the Avatar world, Azula can't be convicted of war crimes.
Azula's torture of Suki might have been a common a accepted practice of the time.
Geneva convention? More like Gevena suggestion.
>Azula's place on the Totem pole of FN war criminals, Azula's places is relatively low.
>The thing is, what are "War crimes" in the Avatar world? Because before things like the Geneva convention and treaties of a similar nature, there was no such things as war crimes.
>So, unless there are such treaties that exist in the Avatar world, Azula can't be convicted of war crimes.
IDK about Aang's time, but by Korra's time they do have a war crimes tribunal that Kuvira is subjected to in Ruins of Empire.
That's over half a century later, though.
You can't condemn someone for crimes that didn't exist at the time.
Ex post facto laws might be okay in their world.
>That's over half a century later, though.
>You can't condemn someone for crimes that didn't exist at the time.
Yeah, I know. To be quite honest, it is weird that they knew out right state that the only reason why Azula and Ozai were jailed were due being political enemies of Zuko instead of trying to imply they were jailed for their crimes against the other nations.
What about the EK war criminals? I highly doubt they didn't commit an atrocity or two during a century of war.
I'd argue shattering firebender hands is a war crime. Just kill em you little baby earthbenders
Built for cute circus girl
>Built for cute circus girl
Um, I am pretty sure the circus girl wants nothing to do with her.
Number one reason why I'm not leading to comic books Ty
Lee wants nothing to do with Azula in it.
I don't think Netflix can do any worse to the franchise that already hasn't been done already.
You would be surprised. Get ready for trannie Toph
No Azula identifies sexually as a boy who wants to impregnate her partner.
I've read that fanfic
They ain't gonna do that. They'll make her "Non-binary" instead.
Sokka's gonna be the troony.
>be surprised something after the internet
So, how many FN generals and officers were put to death by the Avatar's/EK kangaroo courts?
Never forget the six million earth kingdomers killed during the war
>Remember the four million!
>But I thought it was only one million.
>Oy vey! Do you deny that six million Air Benders were exterminated by the Fir Nation!?
>N-no! I wasn't deny-
>Oy vey! He's denying the ten million! He's an Anti-Airite!
Its honestly rather stupid how the Fire Nation could wipe out the entire Air Nomads.
No way in hell they got too each temple during Sozin's comet.
The furthest two away should've had all the time in the world to get the frick out
To be fair hasn't it been 100 since then? Plenty of time to do non-Sozin hunting.
Unless they, you know, moved forces into range around all four temples at the same time and then waited for the comet so they could pull off four simultaneous attacks.
No way they would've been able to hide all that.
What could the Air Nomads have done about it?
All they could possibly do is run and be hunted over the course of the 100 year war.
Not only did they wipe out the Air Nomads in a single, across the globe. They also did it without modern tracking and surveillance technology.
That's why I like the idea of Ty Lee being of AN descent. There's no way at least a few groups of AN went into hiding and assimilated with the local population.
Are you me? Cause I like to think that too.
>Not only did they wipe out the Air Nomads
but did they?
Azula wouldn't be a Air Nomad Genocide denier, but instead believe that the Air Nation deserved to be genocided for refusing to submit to Sozin and for having the gall to attack Sozin's for trying to spread the Fire Nation's glory.
She's only saying it to piss Aang off.
>She's only saying it to piss Aang off.
But in that case, wouldn't be more in character to taunt him about what happened to the Kyoshi Warriors and the Earth Kingdom on top of what she is going to his friends once she captures the lot of them. Especially that insufferable waterbending snow savage?
That explains why she and Ozai were convicted as war criminals despite no such treaties existing before.
People also forget they still had plenty of dragons then
If dragons firebreath was also enhanced by the comet, burning out the four temples would have been pretty easy.
So did they just kill their dragons for lolz afterwards or
Apparently.
Prestige is nice, but I can't imagine people being allowed to hunt an important weapon and cultural symbol to extinction. It's really dumb.
>Its honestly rather stupid how the Fire Nation could wipe out the entire Air Nomads.
>No way in hell they got too each temple during Sozin's comet.
>The furthest two away should've had all the time in the world to get the frick out
The Lost Adventures comic, "Relics", revealed that the FN got to the remaining Air Nomads building Air Nomad-like buildings filled with Air Nomad relics in remote mountains that they would be attracted to after the destruction of their temples. And after entering them, the Fire Nation would ambush them.
So to sum up a long story, Aang almost gets captured in one of this buildings and it makes him realize that there was no way any Air Nomad would survived.
(Please don't get mad at me anons; I am just summing up the official explaination for why there were no survivors of the Air Nomad genocide.)
Don't worry anon. You are the messenger. I will however say that is fricking moronic and there is no way they managed to gut every man woman and child.
Officially? None
In reality? At least 1
The only schizo here is you
>The only schizo here is you
>no you
dilate
Unlike you, I am not a trannie
>Has a fricked up fetish.
>Is an attention prostitute.
>Not a troony.
I'm gonna have to press X on that one.
Ignore the Zucestgay. It's like the Sashanne schizo in the Amphibia threads.
>Amphibia
Furry shit lmao
Azula is a serb
>Azula is a serb
Pic is for you
It's not a fetish btw
That's some cope
Zuko would make a fine Niko Bellic ngl
With how Zuko is being mistreated on the comics by his "friends" gives me the feeling that he's made a puppet just like the Emperor of Japan after WW2 and the Kyoshi are there to execute him whenever he goes out of his way, but the fact that he defeated them before contradicts this, without mentioning stuff like the chief/leader of those girls is a bit too friendly with the guy for some reason.
>without mentioning stuff like the chief/leader of those girls is a bit too friendly with the guy for some reason.
Don't let females guard male captives
The Kyoshis are there to appease him and keep him satisfied. Don't forget they were hired by Mai.
I guess that explains it
The one on the left clearly Suki.
Aang also tried to kill her multiple times.
She was already getting railed by him at the very least during the first ten episodes on S3 off-screen, Azula finally understood it's not only the sex but love.
>The one on the left clearly Suki.
No, it's fricking not. It's Azula, as the artist intended
Sod off Scrapper
Nice art.
>The one on the left clearly Suki.
I can't believe you're right.
Something about Azula face of contempt is so hot.
Cope
Even a kid's cartoon knew it was moronic to say that being good at war is a crime.
Also by 'muh war crimes' logic, Aang fake-surrender in episode fricking 2.
>Also by 'muh war crimes' logic, Aang fake-surrender in episode fricking 2.
that rule only applies if you kill, injure or capture an enemy soldier using perfidy, since Aang just escaped without seriously harming anyone in the process (considering humans in the Avatar world seem a lot more durable than irl) I'd say he's fine
>Well yes i would like to take a waterbender with me to fight my crazy sister that will get a power boost for her firebending from Sozin's comet in place that shouldn't have much water in it. No need to help me uncle and Jeong Jeong, I'm sure we'll be fine
What a nice hair to the throne you have here, I'm sure he will be a great leader for his people
Zuko basically led a Weimar Fire Nation after the war. Basically gave up everything.
Nah, more like the current FRG, which literally did give up everything.
Fair
I am glad that she had gotten the happy ending
Based
Based but you forgot Mai and Suki.
All of Azula's mental problems would be solved by the experience of pregnancy, childbirth and child rearing. Her brother's child, of course.
Why are the incest couples so hot on this fandom?
Zuko def tapping this up during the siblings ember island vacations is enough on it's own.
Hard to be crazy when you have your brothers child to give birth to.
truth
Zuko's wifes
>Ty Lee and Azula
>Pretty sure the girl on the left is Suki
Also, if we are going down the Zuko has multiple wives AU path, I am pretty sure his wives are Mai, Ty Lee, and Azula.
Also, on a related note, do anons know if any new Fire Foursome fics or artwork has been dropped?
>I am pretty sure his wives are Mai, Ty Lee, and Azula.
Add six more, because Ty Lee sisters always end up doing the same
Terrible idea for a happy family, but excellent for diplomatic relations, Zuko arranging marriages for all his children in noble and important families around the world would succeed where his father failed through violence.
Hot.
I'd switch Mai and Ty Lee there.
>I'd switch Mai and Ty Lee there.
what makes you say that?
Mai just look more like a throat bawd.
Aang's action 200% had the purpose of injuring his opponents tho.
>Aang's action 200% had the purpose of injuring his opponents tho.
he surrendered to get them to leave the water-tribe civilians alone, then once they were away from the village he made a run for it
Why don't they look asian? They don't even look eurasian.
Europeans are objectively the hottest race
Sure thing israelite
Why the frick does that have to do with the question?
Fire nation girls are white anyways
>Jew
What?
Stop spamming.
Keep deluding yourself and crying.
Stop spamming.
Keep coping
Says one who needs to spam every thread.
no way j
>a fire dagger
>FIRE dagger
Don't think too much about it
Zuko already used that in the series
but it made sense for Zuko, who it shown to have never been properly trained in the royal style of firebending and constantly either creating his own techniques or sharinganing them form other elements, and who is a renowned blade master, to instinctively fall back on his swordsmanship and create "fire daggers" in a moment of great distress
but for other characters there is no thematic reason for them to use fire daggers over just covering their fists in flames
not to mention that in the c*mics the daggers clash and bind as if they were metal blades
it just shows that the hack written did not at all think about the story as he wrote it
I really didn't make it past the first 7 words of your post before fawning over this image kek
They look like weird small lightsabers in the other comic panel, why's that?
Found it on the archives of some Zucest thread from last year, really cant identify that weird signature on the right though
>>a fire dagger
>>FIRE dagger
>Don't think too much about it
>Zuko already used that in the series
>not to mention that in the c*mics the daggers clash and bind as if they were metal blades
>They look like weird small lightsabers in the other comic panel, why's that?
Yeah, it is really weird that fire is treated like a solid object. Not to mention it is pitiful that Zuko got defeated so quickly that he was reduced to pointing out to Azula that no one would accept her on throne.
Like the man knew that Azula was free due to his actions and had already shown new lightning techinques, why wasn't he training 24/7 for Azula's return? Especially since she is still a throne-hungry imperialist?
>why wasn't he training 24/7 for Azula's return?
as it was pointed before, Zuko is basically bootleg aang from se1 - we see in the comics that he can summon a giant storm of fire, so why doesnt he use it to nuke azula?
for the same reason why azula's lightning doesnt do anything or why mother fricking aang gets bagged by two nameless faceless redshirts
yang is a hack, cant write for shit and watched too much naruto
>why mother fricking aang gets bagged by two nameless faceless redshirts
What is the whole point of training to become a fully realized Avatar if two girls from abusive asylums can learn smokebending and defeat a fully realized Avatar?
>What is the whole point of training to become a fully realized Avatar if two girls from abusive asylums can learn smokebending and defeat a fully realized Avatar?
My bad, here is the picrel
So wait, is the anon who posted the picrel or Aang the mentally diabled one?
Both, but Aang is much more justifiable
not only does Aang act like an absolute moron, but Azula and her goonsquad seems to have stolen all of Zuko's moves form the original show... wtf
>not to mention that in the c*mics the daggers clash and bind as if they were metal blades
Because they can
The show firmly establishes that firebending isn't ordinary fire and it has physical force as well which is how it blows stuff up and knocks people down.
all the zuko and azula interactions are fricking stupid
zuko acts like aang frm se1 and azula is just a discount harley queen
who the frick wrote that?
An Aang self inserter with a personal vendetta against Zuko on account of Zutara's popularity.
>An Aang self inserter with a personal vendetta against Zuko on account of Zutara's popularity.
Yang is arguably a Zuko self-inserter. So I don't know if that makes things worse or better.
>self-inserter
but that's not self-insert, it's projection
>but that's not self-insert, it's projection
self-insert, projection, the sentiment is still the same. Besides, the point I was trying to make is that Yang is most likely not an Aang self-inserter and is more likely to be a Zuko self-inserter considering Zuko was in all of his comics except for The Rift if I remember correctly.
>the sentiment is still the same
not exactly
self insert is basically playing a character in a video game - you use your irl knowledge to solve the problems that the characters have
projection is when you replace the struggles and challenges your characters have with your own - in this case Zuko having to deal with Iroh going for smokes and not coming back or the fact that Ozai is somehow reasonable dude and you should listen to his advice even if you dont like him
despite the fact that neither would Iroh abandon his nephew nor would Zuko need someone to tell him that he should protect his people from genocide
>considering Zuko was in all of his comics
that was honestly purely by popular demand
>Yang is most likely not an Aang self-inserter
that part might be true about yang, but you should check on whom the look of aang in korra was based on
>he should protect his people from genocide
That crack me up that the whole comics is basically the whole gaang treating Zuko like he's insane for being against what is acknowledged as a form of genocide.
yeah that was pretty moronic
Say the one needing to cope cause everyone unanimously love Zucest.
A couple of morons spamming in Avatar threads is hardly "everyone".
>First it was just one anon
>Now it's a 'couple' of anons
That's progress, you're almost ready to face the truth.
When was it implied in
to be only a single individual?
>Muh discord
Lol, this is pathetic.
It was Discord that got alot of Cinemaphile boards to say "Coom/Coomer". Originally they tried to make "Cumbrain" a thing, but that didn't work out. So, they changed to Coomer, which did work.
>NOOOOOOOOO 47 PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ONE ANON CAUSE THEIR SHIP IS WAY BETTER THAN MINE!!!
Zucest will keep being posted and appreciated by everyone in every single ATLA thread until you have a nice day.
Zuko WILL frick Azula on every thread
>Considering the way she took Ba-Sing-Se, which was pretty much bloodless and quick, I wish more war criminals were like her.
She nose
Azula wants to make babies for the most powerful man in the world.
Oh, goody gumdrops. Now the Aanggays are here as well.
All we need is the Sokkagays and we'll have the whole set.
???
You can identify it by her bracelet and the hairstyle tbqh
I can totally imagine they make Sokka discover himself identifying as a woman after the Kyoshi force him into playing dress-up instead of forcing him to humble himself like on the OG series.
>you will never destroy the fire lord's bloodline by bleaching his daughter and pumping her full of hapa babies, kickstarting a whole new branch of WMAF fetishism that will go down in their history
Considering there aren't any European peoples in the Avatar universe, the bloodline will be back to being Asian again in a few generations and the WMFA fetish will fade away before you're even dead.
>the bloodline will be back to being Asian again in a few generations
You clearly underestimate the tenacity of white genes
>decades later, FN girls still talk and thirst after the 6'4, blonde blue eyed uberchad that came out of thin air, fricked their greatest bender silly and fathered an untold number of halfbreeds, pretty much creating a tribe within a tribe
A single individual can't do that.
The history of the Crimean Goths says otherwise.
>a single individual can't do that
Its believed that the blue eye gene started off somewhere in eastern europe with one guy
One single dude is responsible for all the blue eyed people in the world
There is also ghenghis khan
So yes, one guy can make history by simply being CHAD enough
Blue eyes originated from the Western hunter-gatherers. Not a single individual.
Do any of Ghenghis Khan's contemporary descendents look east Asian to you?
Just google "blue eye gene origin"
Are you telling me ghenghis' descendats don't look like mongols?
Some of them might not, true
But most asians who are related to him do
Blue eyes came west to east. The Eurasian steppe people originally had Green/Brown eyes and didn't get blue eyes until mixing with the western hunter gatherers.
The people look east Asian because they ARE east Asian, dummy.
I'm talking about westerners and Indian/Pakistanis who claim descent.
>blue eyss came west to east
Got any sauce to back that up?
>im talking westerners and indians who claim descent
I dont know any, but there must be some sort of "asian" feel to them
If a Westerner, Indian or Pakistani looks partial Asian, it ain't because of Ghenghis Khan fricking their great-great-great-great-grandmother.
Rule of thumb - if peoples live near each other, they're going to mix.
That's why southern Chinese are genetically closer to Vietnamese and Thai people than northern Chinese, who are closer to Mongols, Tibetans and Turks than the southerners are.
One person must have had the original mutation.
A tribe of people didn't spontaneously pop into existence.
The Fire Nation is white
>Azula, Zuko, Ozai, Irō
These are all Japanese names
white men made them, they are white
>These are all Japanese names
Azula and Azulon are based off the Spanish word for blue, Azul. But it doesn't take away from your point that all ATLA characters are Asian.
Inuit are considered Asian, now?
>Inuit are considered Asian, now?
Asian and Indengious People, my bad.
Inuit may be indigenous, but they water tribe are black coded in the actual show
>but they water tribe are black coded in the actual show
No, they aren't.
yes, they are
nig
>The Eskimos are black coded
What
Yes, they are.
"Asians" in avatar act like white people and the water tribe act Black, they are coded
Lol. You remind me of people who think Kaeya and Xinyan in Genshin are black.
Fools.
Explain why Korra's setting is based on 20's America
Shitty writting
Yes, it's shitty writting to make white and Black characters just to say, they are Asian and Indigenous, believe us
Good thing there ain't any blacks in avatar then
Cope
Indeed that is what you are doing.
No, they aren't. You being racist and having pre-conceived notions about how people should act doesn't make anyone coded.
>Korra
>literally an immigrant testing the american dream
>persecuted for being vocal about the status quo *coff* BLM *coff*
>Amon
>literally against race (bending) opression, trying to change the system
>gets killed because the writters don't think opression is real
>Manhattan bridge, statue of liberty, Henry Ford, Hollywood and other "asian" iconography
Hello Reed Richards.
>Asami Sato
>literally Ford's daughter
NOOO! She's Asian because... because the writters said so!
Forgot to add
>Looks based on Rita Hayworth
So asian
>because the writters said so!
Yes. That's LITERALLY how it works.
Not really.
>bending was created when humans observed animals and were able to manipulate chi
>no, it was gifted to them by lion-turtles
>lightning bending is hard
>not really, even blue collar workers can do it
Not a retcon but doesn't make sense:
>Korra lost her bending, except for airbending because she never knew how to. So she can airbend even with her chi blocked because we say so!
>spirit bending and raava/vaatu (so important that aren't mentioned at all in Last Bender)
>lightning bending is hard
>not really, even blue collar workers can do it
To be fair, the same thing happens in real life. Some skills are passed on more easily as we understand them better and have more resources to study and learn from.
I'd believe it if it was metalbending (you manipulate earth but in a more precise way) or even bloodbending (blood moon powerboost), but is mentioned you need inner balance to achieve lightning bending, that's not something you can learn easily
>I'd believe it if it was metalbending (you manipulate earth but in a more precise way) or even bloodbending (blood moon powerboost), but is mentioned you need inner balance to achieve lightning bending, that's not something you can learn easily
So Azula during Sozin's Comet and The Search is actively psychotic and yet she can generate lightning. Hell, in The Search she debuts several new lightning techniques.
And in Smoke and Shadow, her lightning skills only grow despite heavily implied to have regained mental stability by finding false inner peace by becoming Zuko's shadow.
Yes, Sozin's Comet was a retcon, the writters thought making her spam lightning was cool, remember they also introduced the Lion Turtles in part 2. they were getting lazy
Did you reply to the wrong post? What the frick does any of that have to do with being Asian?
Sod off israelite
This is some dumbass trolling you're doing
cope
Didn't even click your pic, I trust the creators of the show over your stupid ass
Managed to get it in higher res
avatargays will deny picture related
Post hidden, stay mad
>He think this is fitting
They don't look alike in the slightest, how delusional are you?
here's your Inuit
No, they're not.
Ayo so u be sayin
Honourary
>Its believed that the blue eye gene started off somewhere in eastern europe with one guy
Sure thing buddy
Keep believing in israelitevolution
What
I am white and really, REALLY want to pump azula full of babies
What is so hard to understand?
Keep that attitude up, and even a prostitute won't let you hit it
Like clockwork.
holy /trash/ brainrot
So we all agree that Azula isn't some evil monster beyond hope? Great.
If only Iroh gave half a shit about her but no he has to lick Zuko's taint because he got his son killed.
I only go to Cinemaphile to indulge in my unhealthy love of this psycho
thank you for fulfilling that desire, OP
>getting mogged by firecest so much you make a slide thread
If a single European was taken to the Avatar world, the genetic impact they would make would be non-existent. Especially in a kingdom with a huge population, like the EK.
>world of asians
>everyone is undsr 6', has straight black hair and mostly flat faces
>a 6'4 aryan popping out of nowhere and breeding some of them in a small area wouldn't lead to people from that zone being on average taller and slightly more eu4opean looking
Nope. His children might, but not as the bloodline dilutes more and more. His great-grandson would be indistinguishable from any of the other population.
To to have and genetic impact, you have to have lots of men and prevent the local men from breeding with the women.
Yeah, no shit, the worse thing she did was to accept her father's plan, but considering she is a mentally ill minor and that plan was stopped before it could do real damage, her infractions are pretty minor. She is b***h but her actions were against people who were considered traitors to her nation or enemy combatants.
Anyone know if any new Fire Foursome fics have been posted?
Azula is a good sister-wife and that's all that matters.
What about the whole "feigning surrender" thing? Isn't feigning surrender technically a war crime?
Azula is not only a victim but is the worst affected person of the fire nations crimes because she never had a chance to live a life on her own. She was raised to be a child soldier and doesn't know how to be anything else
IMO it's interesting she captures the Kyoshi warriors alive. Trying to defeat multiple enemies non-lethally and containing them in captivity requires a lot more work from you than just fighting them to the death. In light of that, accusing her of being a war criminal sounds strange.
>IMO it's interesting she captures the Kyoshi warriors alive. Trying to defeat multiple enemies non-lethally and containing them in captivity requires a lot more work from you than just fighting them to the death. In light of that, accusing her of being a war criminal sounds strange.
The Kyoshi Warriors, especially Suki, had plot armor, Mai and Ty Lee murdering the Kyoshi Warriors/being complicit in their deaths would make them irredeemable, and the censors would not allow a bunch of teenage girls to kill other teenage girls, especially if they didn't allow Azula to kill that ship captain.
Since the fight took place off-screen, the show could've just done the same thing they did with Jet; not show the character again, and never clarify or confirm in the show what happened. That could've worked out fine.
If they didn't want the fans to think of Mai and Ty Lee as murderers, then it'd make more sense to not have a scene that implies that in the first place. Between the fight and the Boiling Rock episodes, it did look like the Kyoshi warriors had in fact been killed.
TyZula is on its way tick tock...
>TyZula is on its way tick tock...
Neither Ty Lee nor Azula wanting anything to do with each other. Hell, I bet Azula and Ty Lee try to kill each other in the 2024 movie, with Azula potentially succeeding, before Tyzula is canonized.
Honestly, it's best to just to ignore the comics. Way too much stupid shit it it to make sense.
Mucho texto. Just let her have incestous sex with Zuko.
Best sex is always incestuous
Sisters are for punishing sexually, not through legal means. Zuko should use her as his superior baby pumping machine for the rest of her life as her punishment and redemption.
Are these constant Zucest posting in every Avatar thread organised on Discord or something.?
It just seems like you can't have a discussion about Avatar without these frickers spamming every single thread.
I haven't even watched Avatar. I just love posting about Zucest in Avatar threads.
People just love Zucest. Does reddit always love searching for boogeyman when confronted with facts?
These people can't comprehend acting without someone else pressuring them.
>Reddit
I think you're the one with a boogeyman.
Just because something is spammed by a few troglodytes, doesn't mean it's loved.
Cry more
>Goes on a reddit like rant about his Discord boogeyman for no reason but to cry about his boogeyman
>N-No u
Lol
It might not be Discord, but either way there are some who keep spamming Avatar threads.
>Anons naturally talk about stuff I don't like so it's spam
You really need to stop, it's just sad.
It is spam if it has nothing to do with the topic at hand and in pretty much every Avatar thread.
>Spam is when off topic (despite being about ATLA)
>Spam is also when people post stuff I don't like in a thread pertaining to their interest
Are you a toddler?
The discussion is about war crimes in the Avatar world.
If you want to talk about how much you like incest or whatever, take it somewhere else or make a dedicated thread.
>The discussion is about war crimes in the Avatar world.
It's clearly not, literally nobody is talking about that. Thread and conversation subject are dynamic and natural, they don't have to follow what you want.
Nah, we're good here so we'll keep doing it and you'll just have to take it.
>they don't have to follow what you want.
So, then, take you Zucesthomosexualry elsewhere.
Once again, don't have to follow what you want and the subject is now Zucest for as many anons as they want.
Nah, it's all good here.
How about you go seethe somewhere else or make your own thread to seethe in? You're not welcome here.
Stop spamming already. You're just shitting up the thread with off topic shit.
No, I just come to Cinemaphile for Avatar and Ben 10 thread. And in both cases I support the incest ships
Tfym, Azula threads are guaranteed zucest threads
Just checked, it is Suki
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/551310/post/68338269
It's genuinely good, S1 took me a few episodes to get the hook on it but it's a 7/10, the show tried to be somewhat more comedic but failed at it during that season, S2 is a 9.5/10 and S3 started off decently but dropped the ball heavily thx to Bryke discovering muh autistic pairings 6/10 to me.
>Just checked, it is Suki
hmm, when I checked r34 it said Azula
Guess I am wrong
Cope
I'm just very passionate about it. Love is beautiful.
>Frozen threads has Hansgays
>Tangles threads has Variangays
>TOH threads has Huntergays
>Avatar has Zucestgays
Self-insertgays should be shot.
When it come to being the worst, it's a tie between the Huntergays and the Zucestgays.
Cope
Buzzword.
Look who's talking
Cope word.
It ain't wrong, though, is it?
The Sokkacel is big mad again.
Imagine posting that list of threads you visit and still thinking your opinion will be taken seriously.
Is there really a concept for war crimes on the Avatar world? Because I am pretty sure the water siblings were the closest to do so.
Also I think Iroh's VA had double feelings about that particular line and meant it as a joke, not the first time his morals has flaws though, he never took Ozai on his lifetime because it would be somehow seen as selfish despite having the reputation to do so, yet contributed for Zuko to have an Agni-Kai with his sister near the end, whom Zuko specifically said before that 'she was loosing it.'
Sauce for that .webm?
>Is there really a concept for war crimes on the Avatar world?
By the the time of Korra? Probably. But in Aang's day? No.
>Before reading the file name
I could swear that she is saying Zuzu in a seductive way
This looks like it was traced from Dragon Prince.
This may be just my opinion, but I feel the 4 nations make the world too small.
It would be nice if there were some shoot-off nations to populate the world: Like a fire merchant republic that got too rich and declared independence or a earth pirate republic or maybe a schismatic air temple that stayed isolated due to religious infighting or a water colony of political exiles
Stuff like that would require proper worldbuilding, though.
And that just doesn't happen with the Avatar franchise.
>It would be nice if there were some shoot-off nations to populate the world
true, and that's what the comics should have been about... but alas the hacks writing them were shit at their job
when a kid's show tries to have a serious tone, the backstory/mostly offscreen characters are likely to do much worse shit than the characters that are active in the plot, just because the former doesn't have to be shown on screen. Therefore comparing the relative morality of major vs minor antagonists is kind of pointless.
The earth kingdom soldiers that captured Iroh were going to cut his hands off. The show had a bit of edge here and there, mostly at the start
>mostly at the start
so before lucas pouched dave filoni to work on star was cgi cartoon
wow. woe is me azula threads. you cats only care because you think she cute. if she looked like the sole of an old shoe, none of you would make the effort
>you cats only care because you think she cute
I also think her voice is hot and that her character is tragic
> if she looked like the sole of an old shoe, none of you would make the effort
If she was a grandpa, it would be too late for her. But she's a teen
Cry harder
>the comicgay is alive
Someone call Bryke so they can send Pakistani ninjas to his house again.
Ok pajeet
So, does anyone have any hopes for the solo comic or the 2024 movie?
No.
>No.
>No.
>Return to fanfiction,
>This
Why are you guys so permissic? Don't you guys realize that if Bryke fricks up the movie and/or Azula's comic (I have feeling it is going to lead into the movie), that they will essentially not only lose Avatar Studios, but also the remaining goodwill they have?
1. Azula comic?
2. Will it be an animated movie?
3. I have no expectations for new content for fandoms I like because Its the current year and I know how this ends.
Look at Ring of Power and House of the Blacked Dragon
>1. Azula comic?
in 2023
I'll keep my eye out for it if nothing else.
>1. Azula comic?
>>1. Azula comic?
>in 2023
>I'll keep my eye out for it if nothing else.
>Aang is by definition a peacekeeper. Killing a peacekeeper in a war would absolutely be considered murder. Azula has no chance.
No offense, but isn't Aang an enemy combatant considering he literally killed an entire fleet in the North?
T-that's different!!!!!
Aang is an ennemy combatant cause he directly fight for and multiple times under the orders of multiple figure on one side of the conflict. At best he's a mercenary working for the enemy, at worst, he's a terrorist enemy combattant who fake surrendered a few times and wear no uniforms.
>Aang is an ennemy combatant cause he directly fight for and multiple times under the orders of multiple figure on one side of the conflict. At best he's a mercenary working for the enemy, at worst, he's a terrorist enemy combattant who fake surrendered a few times and wear no uniforms.
Yeah, I was just trying to go with the best argument but you are completely right anon. Aang the moment he decided to bring balance to the world was an enemy combatant, no matter how righteous or justified he was in waging war agains the Fire Nation.
Exactly. People really need to get over the fact that stuff like that isn't defined by morality or 'righteousness', those are actual legal definition who have very specific criteria with nothing about the war being justified or not.
Aang sure does a lot of fighting for a pacifist
>File: Azula Solo Comic
i predict that it will be in equal parts preachy and shit
>i predict that it will be in equal parts preachy and shit
I think it will lead into the status quo in the TTRPG that all but guarantees Azula will the main villain of the 2024 movie.
>Azula comic
it will be written by a women that's know for girlpower comics
it will be shit
>TTRPG
dont place much weight in that
>dont place much weight in that
The TTRPG was made in collab with Avatar Studios, with Bryke giving special care to Roku's era. So it is presumably canon to Avatar Studios.
Yet, Azula wanting to messing with sprits, distancing herself from the Fire Warriors, and trying to overthrown Zuko makes no sense considering what happened in S&S, even though it is perfect set up for Azula being the main villain of the 2024 movie.
Hence why I think the TTRPG will severe to bridge the gap between S&S and TTRPG as to make Azula in 2024 less jarring to those who have read the comics, which are (sadly) still canon.
>distancing herself from the Fire Warriors
>trying to overthrown Zuko
the point is you massive autist, that they are going to ignore ttrpg like every other company does since it's a third rate canon at best
Dont you worry, he always does that
What she doing?
>Don't you guys realize that if Bryke fricks up the movie and/or Azula's comic (I have feeling it is going to lead into the movie)
And?
>Why are you guys so permissic?
Because they lost all good will I had toward them AND one of their movie is for Kyoshi who's a literal who nobody cares about and another is about Korra so they are doubling down on the LOK moronation, both proving they have learned nothing from their failures and thus that they'll also frick up the Azula comic and Zuko movie.
Aang isn't a peacekeeper, he's an active combattant on one side of the conflict, you fricking moron. Especially if he's actively fighting you and about to shoot the ATLA equivalent of artillery fire.
>And?
Because Bryke have no properties to their name outside of ATLA despite their attempts otherwise.
So Avatar Studios is imo their last chance to get things right since not only will they fill in the gaps in Aang's life, it will be seen by everyone instead of just the (relatively) few who have read the comics and insight books.
>So Avatar Studios is imo their last chance to get things right
Once again, and? It being their last chance doesn't change their likelihood of fricking it up. Especially since as I've said above, they are doubling down on shit like Korra.
>one of their movie is for Kyoshi who's a literal who nobody cares about and another is about Korra so they are doubling down on the LOK moronation
Someone's mind is still shattered.
>Even dyke gays have to make Korra the man in the relationship
Hilarious.
Also Cope.
>cope
Yes that is what you've been doing since that day.
>No u
Keep humiliating yourself, please
Humiliating myself? You got to stop projecting anon.
>n-no y-you
Yes that is what you're doing. Projecting lol.
The day Korra and Asami held hands and stared at each other is the day your mind was shattered and you've been screaming ever since. Grow up.
>N-n-n-no u
>L-l-l-lol
Good little jester, keep going.
You sound a little angry, pal. A little mad. A tiny bit butthurt. What happened?
His shit show got canceled
No.
Return to fanfiction,
This
Iroh was the war criminal, Azula is just a psycho with a success-complex that was beaten into her by her father. Esentally living her life with the threat of "you're not like your failure older brother, right daughter?" every day.
You're joking, right?
She disguised herself as an enemy combatant using uniforms she stole in order to stage a coup in her enemies' kingdom. That is 100% a war crime.
That's not even including her plan to destroy an entire continent when that first plan proved to not be effective.
>She disguised herself as an enemy combatant using uniforms she stole in order to stage a coup in her enemies' kingdom.
It's called infiltration. If she didn't do that, there would be a bloody siege
It's still completely and totally a war crime.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule62
No, it's not
This solemny depends on the concept of war crime on the Avatar world
Pic here is gold tho
Only if you kill someone, which she didn't.
>That is 100% a war crime.
Avatar has no Geneva Conventions, so it is literally 100% not a war crime. Also it should be noted that she didn't just kill the Kyoshi warriors when it would have been much easier, and Ba Sing Se was taken in a bloodless coup when she pretty easily could have just murdered everyone in charge.
No one can be a war criminal if there are no established Rules of War between the 3 nations.
I'm taking the question "Is Azula a war criminal" as a hypothetical based on how we define war crimes irl. Presumably there were no actual rules of engagement agreed upon prior to the 100 Year War, which would mean that absolutely nothing in-setting is a war crime. Since we're having a silly internet discussion, though, I'm assuming that we're discussing whether or not she's committed what WE would consider war crimes.
Isn't she 14? Would a child soldier be convicted?
No, laws of war don't apply to underage fighters because they are considered victims and not responsible of their actions.
The Fire Nation is going to be in trou le if we apply modern standards due to their use of incendiary weapons. Azula might also get into trouble because of her civilian disguises.
What kind of official Azula toys would you like to see get made?
not a /toy/tard but i'd like a figuarts Azula and Toph
fleshlight
an onahole
>And Iroh's "She's crazy and must go down" comment has forever made me hate him as a character.
It's funny because he was a war criminal well into his 40s or 50s and only changed his mind when his son died rather than any actual moral issue with what he was doing.
Why was Lu-Ten that much of a jobber anyways?
Iroh was almost capable of teaching Zuko lightning on a single evening and while he didnt fully learnt it due to being angry n shit (Azula is somehow able to spam it while having a breakdown) it was enough to re direct it and mog his father, Lu-Ten died to some nameless EK goons.
Picrel weirdly makes me think of an HD elements trainer
>Why was Lu-Ten that much of a jobber anyways?
>Iroh was almost capable of teaching Zuko lightning on a single evening
despite things we are told Zuko is actually the talented one while Azula is the hard worker
This is moronic, they are both talented. The only difference is Zuko wasn't well suited for the fire nation modern style.
I think that both are naturally talented, it's just that Zuko depended more on that aspect during his earlier years while Azula starting her intense training earlier, that's why it was hard for him to keep up on the show at first.
>I think that both are naturally talented, it's just that Zuko depended more on that aspect during his earlier years while Azula starting her intense training earlier, that's why it was hard for him to keep up on the show at first.
Azula is both more talented and a harder worker than Zuko in both the TV show and the comics. Though that is not saying Zuko is not a hard worker or talented; Zuko even pre-Dragons was like a Top 5 firebender in the world. It is just that he didn't mesh with modern-style firebending and can only really take on Azula post-dragon when he has a number and environmental advantage or she is slipping (or starting to do so).
>Azula is both more talented and a harder worker than Zuko in both the TV show and the comics.
This is so fricking dumb
>This is so fricking dumb
Zuko in S1 asks for more advanced sets even though Iroh tells him he is not ready. Azula in her introduction gets mad when one hair is out of place despite otherwise perfectly generating lightning and defeats Zuko in a fight without firebending except to kill him with lightning.
>remove those elements and they'd be equal.
Except Azula is better H2H fighter and has smokebending.
>comic shit
Frick off.
>it looked more like what he had seen Aang doing
Integrating other forms of bending's move is Iroh's whole MO so that's clearly the extension of what he was teaching Zuko.
>without firebending
By that logic Zuko didn't use his swords
He used his fire for the express purpose of being a sword substitute, got his ass handed to him.
Azula using no bending>Sword Zuko.
Cope
can you stop embarrassing yourself you absolute clueless moron?
He can't.
Dont know what's up with Azula on the comics, they clearly intend her to be the same steategizing genius but her plans are a bit moronic if you think about them for 10 seconds straight, in fact, everyone seems like they hitted their head hard, I mean a fricking airbender getting beated by some smoke of all things???
if you go to the best math school and have personal math teachers and then some guy, that spent last five years in a van with a hippie uncle that was trying to make him smoke weed instead of teaching him math, is able to beat you in math quiz after looking at other people solving math problems and coming up with couple of solutions himself
then you are not more talented than him
To be fair, said Hippie Uncle happen to be like the second best mathematician in the world.
yeah but he refused to teach Zuko anything more that addition and subtraction, so Zuko wouldn't use that knowledge to become evil or something
>so Zuko wouldn't use that knowledge to become evil or something
>prince Zuko I will not show you how to make a nuclear device!
>but uncle Azula probably is alredy building her nuclear reactor
Nah, Iroh was just doing some 4D chess kung fu shit where the 'basics' he taught were basically grooming Zuko for Dragon style fire bending while filtering out the fire nation style shit.
That's implied by Iroh insisting that said 'basics' are very important and Zuko curbstomping Zhao with said 'basics'.
>Zuko curbstomping Zhao with said 'basics'
but Zuko won that fight thanks to a new technique that ha came up on the spot himself
until then as long as he was just using just basics he was being pushed back
The technique he came up with are based on what Iroh taught him tho.
it looked more like what he had seen Aang doing
now I recognize your moronic arguments, you are the usual autist that is unable to grasp human emotions, their influence and the more advance forms of storytelling
>you are the usual autist that is unable to grasp human emotions, their influence and the more advance forms of storytelling
How so?
not that anon, but if you treat characters meant to be human as two sets of competing numbers, it's hard not to think that you might have autism
during their confrontation on the ship Azula was focused and determined, meanwhile Zuko's whole world view came crashing down on him - after all he'd never once doubted wisdom of his father, the god king of his nation, believing that all the bad things that had happened to him must had been his own fault, but then it turned out that his father had forsaken him despite Zuko's loyalty, dedication, hard work, on top of not doing anything wrong
up to this point this idea was unthinkable for Zuko, so when it happened it struck him at his very core and left him in a state of shock, an easy picking for Azula
of course it doesn't change the main point that by this stage of the story the princess was stronger as a firebender, but your conclusion about the hand to hand combat is clearly wrong
>of course it doesn't change the main point that by this stage of the story the princess was stronger as a firebender, but your conclusion about the hand to hand combat is clearly wrong
I was mostly referring to the comics but you have a good point anon.
Both work just as much and are just as talented, the difference is that as you said Zuko isn't suited for the fire nation style of firebending while Azula is very suited for lightning bending, which Zuko also struggle with purely due to his conflicted nature, remove those elements and they'd be equal.
She's a daddys girl, had a major oedipus thing going and is litteralky a cheap rip off of fricking Asuka Langley.
Azula
Asuka
??
Only thing good about that trashcan character comes from Grey.
>Evatroony
>Asukashitter
Back to /r/eddit with you
You are both israelites
Asuka and Azula are best girls
That's what Zuko said after he knocked her up.
Impreg-Ni-Kai!
>Impreg-Ni-Kai!
Love it
that comics is short but good shit regardless
I agree anon, I do.
Also holy shit, the thread took a new direction while I was gone, tf happened
source?
it's a comic called 'Motivation' by BrainiacX, but it's been around since Korra's S2 was announced on 2012 and hasnt updated since, so it's pretty much dead.
I'm going to write a Azula/Ty Lee/OMC fanfic and nobody can stop me.
Now should it be twincest or no
>twincest
There ain't any twins in avatar
OMC = Original Male Character who could be Zula's twin
So zuko
Nah. Actually interesting and not a Mary Sue.
So still Zuko.
There's Li and Lo
They were hot once
Christ, how bad would Zuko have had it if he had twin younger siblings that were both stronger than him.
Zuko gets spitroasted
Zuko would be almost happy to be banished. He might finally get a full night's sleep
>No more Azula behind him with a strapon
>No more Azulon II in the front working his throat.
Azulon II would probably hallucinate his dad telling him he's a homosexual
Azulon II would be a god tier trap. Perfect for his brotherlord.
Just like Azula is a shorty with small breasts, he'd be a midget with a small dick.
>Azula hallucinates her mother saying "she loves her" because it's true
>Azulon II hallucinates either his father or Lu-Ten telling him he's a homosexual because it's true
excellent job anon
it only lasts a few moments, but this type of threads are more interesting for R63 threads, Azulon II would make his father a lot more insecure and Azula would probably dont feel the need to hire Mai and Ty to hunt the Avatar, heck I dont know if Aang would make it through Crossroads of Destiny.
Wanting to be a good boywife to your older brother does not make you a homosexual.
>Ty Lee always flirting with Azulon II, not realizing he wants Zuko's "sword"
>After being ignored for too long, Ty Lee dates Zuko to try and make Azulon II jealous
>She succeed but not at all for the reasons she expected.
>Lead to an angry competition between a scorned Ty Lee and a salty Azulon II to please Zuko the most
>azulon 2
>while azula is daddy`s little monster and zuko is a coping burnlet trying to get back in his father`s good graces, azulon 2 just doesn`t give a shit
>he is not as good a bender as his sister, but much better than his brother
>but he is a loose canon, seeing his fathers attention as beneath him, having already realized what a little pathetic man he is, even with his power
>anything he does is simply to amuse himself, sometimes he`ll help azula, sometimes he`ll sabotage her, though he never gets caught and no one can prove him guilty
I am writing that down
Doesn't seem super interesting. More of a plot device than a character.
>just a petty little prick that fricks up everyone's shit
Forget debates about Azula being redeemed, if this character existed she definitely would and this kid fricking dies for sure.
>>just a petty little prick that fricks up everyone's shit
i was think more a prick with a heart of gold
he messes with his family, but not enough to endanger anyone
and in the end, when everyone has left azula, he could be the only one that sticks around and acts as an anchor of her sanity, eventually rubbing off on her a little and making her realize how wrong she was
either that, or he is genuinely an annoying little shit that gets killed in the end
Azula is basically spare parts for Zuko, she gets lucky because Ursa decided to give her son a normal childhood
truth is that if you would really want to write a queerfic with Azula, then you would go for the princess trying so hard to be a better version of her brother as to start to act as a man and wanted to be treated as such
and then you would either have Zuko, or in your case more likely your OC, help her remember that she is in fact a girl - and if you wanna be funny about it, it might at first look like the guy turned gay instead, since no one knows that Azula is in fact a woman
>mean tomboy azula who actually longs to be loved and validated
it was a good thread until the gay brigade had arrived
It stopped being a good thread the moment Azula/Zuko shippers appeared.
dont kid yourself gay, at least their straight and thus are better than you
triggered.
Keep crying.
Azula threads are ALWAYS with/o exception Zucest threads, not too hard to understand anon
thank you, but I am really not into traps, really fujos would drool all over an Azulon II now that I think about it.
>azula`s twin
PREPARE FOR TROUBLE
>AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
>Betray your friend for the love of your life who you leave anyway and hook up with someone else
Why did they assassinate (ironic) Mai's character so hard
this is what happens when you get a writer to do a continuation of a story he only read on wikipedia about
I remember someone's lengthy rambles that it was a conspiracy from a Zutara shipper.
Shipping drama to attract viewers since unlike the original show, the plot itself just isnt interesting without having intense sexual moments between some horny teenagers. Tbqh Mai is more or less of a drama queen since she betrayed her in theory 'best friend' at the Boiling Rock and said that she always feared her despite that she only joined at her trip because the girl was "bored."
They stay a couple in my glorious headcanon.
I think they wouldnt last very long as a couple, but it genuinely deserved better treatment, it's like Bryke are just whiping their arse with everything they did on the OG series.
Azula and Ty Lee sure seem to jump at the chance to roleplay a couple
>someone comes up with an interesting new concept that would completely change the story
>femboy gays and incestgays immediately co-opt it
Nobody cares about your mary sue fanfic with 'le epic trollz OC sibling that nobody can catch'.
>Nobody cares about your mary sue fanfic
and a literal homosexual that thirsts after his onichans bendable is better?
Yes.
? not only did the original poster suggested twincest
but that idea has been comed up with on lots of R63 threads, although ppl usually talk more there about Zuka /Zuko's R63) breasts being huge or Sokkara (Sokka's R63) riding Zuko's wiener
You're aware that the concept of Azulon II literally come from Zucest threads about a genderbent Azula STILL wanting Zuko's dick, right? There's literally a fire foursome thread about how it would work with a trap version of Azula.
fine, enjoy your gay coomer shit
i just wanted something wholesome
Zucest can be more wholesome than Azula and Ty Lee fricking some OC brother of Azula. I literally don't understand what you're going on about at this point. You literally just praised a coom post.
>There's literally a fire foursome thread about how it would work with a trap version of Azula.
sauce
You can probably find it on the archive. I don't have the link tho.
Any new fire foursome fic or fanarts? It's been a while.
The most recent I know are these short series, it's porn and not fanfic, but I guess no one minds that on here out of all places.
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/2436401/post/67200207
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/2436401/post/67465319
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/2436401/post/68879443
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/2436401/post/69398459
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/2436401/post/69726742
I read about this "interesting new concept" several fics alone, so that new. Though surely that shit is more intersting that default Zucest.
By the way, where i can read fic about SI in Ozai?
Does iroh have a wife?
Is she ever mentioned?
He must have had one at some point since he had a son, no?
probably died in childbirth
I seem to have stirred up some stuff at the end.
Oh well. I'm off to write an Azula twin fic.
Nichya already did it.
also idk if it's only me, but that OC kinda looks out of a dragon ball xenoverse videogame
Its literally just Azula in that one scene without her makeup and a few other manipulations.