>bastardised the original classic fairy tale
>has one dimensional characters
>has the most selfish and stupid princess Disney ever wrote until Elsa
>created an entire generation of spoiled and entitled Millennial women
Why is this movie hailed as a masterpiece again? Literally every other Little Mermaid adaptation I’ve seen (referring to both the Soviet and Toei adaptations) is better and more faithful than this one.
Because I want to cum on her stomach, my dick can overpower my taste in cinema.
I wonder if Disney would stick to the original ending. Some Disney shorts have bittersweet endings.
Maybe, maybe not. Disney never made 100% accurate adaptations. Bambi was very different from the source material for example.
I think it would have been a bit closer though. I doubt it would have gone full Howard Ashman broadway like the final product did.
>I wonder if Disney would stick to the original ending
Walt wouldn't. Every generation updates these tales, and have done so since their original oral tellings. Disney's versions are only a problem, because they became THE version, and now no one is creating newer versions.
Not that you rejects are going to have kids, but your hypothetical grandkid's grandkids are going to be watching the same Disney versions that we've been watching for decades.
Walt was going to keep the ending in the original 40s attempt that was going to be a segment in a Hans Christian Anderson anthology film.
Katzenberg probably threw that out the window immediately when it was picked up again in the 1980s given that Mermaid was basically Disney course correcting after the bleakness that was Black Cauldron.
The Little Mermaid killing herself and turning into seafoam and doing good deeds for sailors would never have made it to film.
The original ending only works, because it's a Christian fairy tale. Once you remove the Christian context from it, the ending makes no narrative sense.
The original's ending is a happy ending, because she gets her wish of getting a soul and going to Heaven. No one in 1940s would have enjoyed that ending, after seeing Cinderella and Snow White.
The "HCA biopic" framing device the project was going to have would have probably put it into some context. Steadfast Tin Soldier was actually part of that project too with its original "The toys die in a fire and fuse into a heart" ending, though the Fantasia 2000 crew admitted they only changed the ending because it didn't work with the Shostakovitch music they picked as the soundtrack.
>Christian fairy tale
In that it was written by a guy named Christian in the 1800s, not a proper "Fairy Tale" in the traditional sense.
I'd say I hate to split hairs but then I would be a liar
It's a proper fairy tale. That's why I didn't use the phrase folk tale, because it didn't come from the oral tradition and we know the original author.
Folk tales are the better term to use for the ones that came from the oral tradition, without knowing the original author.
If you want to split hairs, you better split them properly.
Because she is canon naked onscreen and shes a tight little redhead WHO DOESN'T TALK
Literally the perfect woman
I think they wouldn't be able to hold onto copyright if they followed the original story
>original is about a selfish mermaid wanting to get a soul so she can go to Heaven
>marrying a human is a means to an end, and not the goal
>propped up the greatness of Christianity for generations
>trannies are trying to retcon the meaning to be able Anderson getting rejected by some girl while also being a trans story, even though neither fit within the narrative of the tale
Yeah, what a timeless classic.
>ever wrote until Elsa
Elsa's fine in Frozen 1 though, she's not really selfish so much as troubled with a sheltered life and unable to deal with any of it.
Frozen 2 is a different story
Because it was the start of the second Disney Renaissance. From its music to its animation quality, it was clearly the start of something new and amazing for animated feature films for Disney. Sure, its heroine is a bit vapid, but for one thing, you may be looking at it through a modern lens, and also that's nearly irrelevant to how it (like basically every iteration of feature Renaissance films up until Atlantis) is such a great film for both kids and adults.
Also its songs and score are timeless. I do not envy people who don't have a childhood that includes "Under the Sea". And I was lucky enough to be a kid around the song's debut.
>Elsa's fine in Frozen 1 though
Also this.
That's every Disney movie, anon.
What's wrong with one-dimensional characters? Not every character needs to be complex and these characters in these old fairy tales are as basic as they can be.
Also, blaming one movie for some women you continue to chase after despite hating is ridiculous. Blame their parents, teachers and peers for influencing them to seek out the easy choices in life.
>>has the most selfish and stupid princess Disney ever wrote until Elsa
I WANNA GET FRICKED DADDY
It is hailed as a masterpiece by women, pedophiles and CalArts graduates.
The true masterpieces are the 1959-1973 films.
CalArts graduates taught by the 1959-1973 Disney animator generation were the ones that made Little Mermaid.
What do pedophiles have to do with anything?
ariel is a teenager but the moron thinks that anything under 17 is pedophilia
Pedophilia is specific to attraction to kids BEFORE THEY START PUEBERTY
Anything under 21 is pedophilia or perverts.
How many male fans of this movie are fans solely because they want to frick Ariel?
Truth be told, I’d frick Ariel. In Mermaid form, no less.
Literally all of the heterosexual ones and 99% of the homosexual ones, with a 1% margin of error.
Ariel is hotter as a mermaid.
I have a crippling mermaid fetish because of this movie.
How does a human mate with a mermaid? Cross species breeding is hot.
>I have a crippling mermaid fetish because of this movie.
Same.
>In Mermaid form, no less.
so she jizzes her eggs onto a rock and waits for you to jizz your seed on top of it?
If sharks are fish capable of giving live birth, why not mermaids?
Oyakodon with milf Ariel and 20 year old Melody like in my japanese manga
>pic very related
The little mermaid 2 is kino though
an entire generation of spoiled and entitled Millennial women
The frick am I even reading
>bastardised the original classic fairy tale
Thanks God. They haven't done this to my country yet.
And yet, the music is wonderful and the animation is beautiful. It kickstarted the renaissance. Disney’s The Little Mermaid deserves its spot in the history books.
I mean, I agree with this perspective, but I have noticed that people cream themselves over the musical numbers (Which are admittedly pretty good).
Howard Ashman carried this movie so hard— Just a shame those songs are in a film with a toxic message.
The Little Mermaid completely shifted the direction of the company for the better for more than a decade.
The xerox era was dull and dark and quiet. Don Bluth was cleaning their clock with The Secret of Nimh, The Land Before Time and An American Tail. The Little Mermaid was the beginning of one of the great eras of Disney, it was so refreshing and alive when it came out.
Sure, the 80’s feminism feels wonky today, and it doesn’t hold up against the better films that came in its wake, but this modern idea that The Little Mermaid is a weak spot in Disney’s catalogue is nonsense. It’s an incredibly important film for the studio.
It was the beginning of the end
The beginning of the end didn’t come from Disney. It was Shrek.
The closest to the beginning of the end for Disney was Chicken Little or Home on the Range.
This. Not just for Disney but for western animation as a whole. The Renaissance was damaging to the western animation industry. Everything in the 90’s had to be Disney or bust. It caused Disney to corner the market and paved the way to them becoming the cartoonishly evil corporation they are today.
Oh frick off. The renaissance is the shining peak of the industry in film and television, only matched by the pre-television golden era.
Unironically shilling for the days of Hanna Barbera and Filmation, frick the nerds of the past are spinning in their graves.
It proved that Disney could make more money making lowest common denominator crap.
A lot of good Disney movies did come out of that era, but the more interesting ones like Treasure Planet and Atlantis made less money than the Princess stuff.
Even stuff like Hercules and Hunchback underperformed, especially when it came to merchandising so the suits decided to take more direct control.
The move from 2D to 3D was done to undercut the Animator's guild and wrest creative control away from people like Glen Keane who actually wanted to make movies, not franchise tentpoles to sell toys.
The Little Mermaid isn't terrible, but its fairly low effort in both a story and an animation
sense. Beauty and the Beast was a huge improvement, but the die had already been cast. People like Eisner and to a greater extent Iger had already smelled blood in the water
Hercules was primarily driven by executive mandates to get another Aladdin out of Musker and Clements before allowing them to make Treasure Planet
Now they don't even have to throw the creatives a bone
>Lowest common denominator
Frick all the way off you absolutely uneducated zoomer little shit.
It's a shame because Glen Keane saved their bacon retooling Tangled into something heartfelt.
>Everything in the 90’s had to be disney or bust
Oh yeah, all those Disney clones making cartoons on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. Truly a dark age with no variety. You absolute homosexual.
Nope the beginning of the End was when Atlantis was a flop.
The Rennaisance Films were so damn successful that Disney will never EVER let go of them
We're 7 years away from the Little Mermaid turning 40.
Forty goddamn years
Also reducing Ariel's story to "Selling her voice for a man" forgets that she was already a giant landaboo before saving Eric. The combination of encountering him and Triton destroying her collection of wallscrolls and Figmas was only a final push to take going to the surface seriously and seeing the sketchy fat chick hanging out around anime club to get her tickets.
it started the trend of structuring the movies like a broadway musical
I like things about it, the general aesthetic is very nice, James Woods performance is great, and the Muses providing a Greek Chorus was inspires.
Unfortunately, it has a single fatal flaw in that Hercules is not, and has never been, a pussy. It's a trip at the first hurdle really.
The Fed having to raise interest rates may put the squeeze on that, we'll see
As the Chinamen say, we are living in Interesting Times
Aren't you that moron that got BTFO in an earlier Disney thread and kept repeating
>NUH UH
Everytime you were proven wrong?
Hera is a c**t because Zeus is as loose as a prostitute in Thailand
Do you really want to present a movie to famlilies with homewreckers every refractory period?
>smearing animation with their infantile stigma shit.
That's more on Hanna Barbara and the Saturday Morning cartoon system.
Don't get me wrong I fricking hate how anything animated is considered for kids in the USA
I was simply talking in the context of a Disney film, not animation in general.
Having a far darker and more mature plot is a regular thing if you look East, but America refuses to try