Beneath the Planet of the Apes

What does Cinemaphile think of Beneath the Planet of the Apes? Personally the ending makes me like it more than the original and I hope the new series builds up to the same conclusion - angry man destroys the entire planet because no gf

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    honestly I don't even remember what happens in it, I watched it like.. 10 or 15 years ago

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    idiotic, borderline moronic movie that was only written the way it was because charlton heston was a manchild incel about returning

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >second film literally destroys the setting
      >we get like 20 more fricking ape films

      The original idea is the best: they were on a long space mission which malfunctioned and just stayed in orbit for thousands of years. They never got help because there was a nuclear war in the meantime so they were forgotten about. The Apes became the dominant race and humans less so.

      The rest with time trabel bullshit and such is stupid.

      Heston was right. The og film was profound and a true scifi flick. Not to say the later films weren't good but they were different from the first and Battle was an undisputable piece of shit cash grab.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Battle was just finishing what it's predecessors started, bad as it is. Beneath was the piece of shit cash grab, it's just retracing the steps of the original with worse creative and production values all around and a cynically misguided attempt to dial up the social commentary and shock factor of the original story without really understanding it. The bomb worshiping cult was taking things a bit too far into self-parody.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          When 'bomb worshipping cult' is something that shows up unironically in Fallout 3, that's how you know you've left a negative impact on post-apocalyptic fiction.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think the ending is sort of ambiguous.
    Taylor makes a very clear attempt to stop the apes from detonating the bomb and then a minute later does it himself, but it's not really clear to me if he does this as revenge for being fatally shot or if he accidentally falls on the button as he dies.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      First film had a lot of thoughtful satire in a Twilight Zone kind of way, the second film undermines everything and isn't smart or interesting. The humans surviving and actually becoming the superior race with psychic abiliites undermines the entire setting.

      He says "frick it" because he deems the apes beyond redemption.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >an imaginary thing that happens later destroys an imaginary thing that happened earlier
        >the imaginary universe is somehow shattered

        ...and this is the power of teevee.
        I would never suggest you neck rope yourself, but in this case, I will suggest you seriously consider it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          damn zigga why u in so deep for this mid ass 50 year old sequel

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I’m a boomer but I loved this movie in the 90s after the Simpson’s references to planet of the apes made me binge all the movies. I rented a “new” one every week from blockbuster on the weekend.
            Anyway, I fell in love with the concept of a apocalypse and humanity collapsing, even at that age.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >second film literally destroys the setting
    >we get like 20 more fricking ape films

    The original idea is the best: they were on a long space mission which malfunctioned and just stayed in orbit for thousands of years. They never got help because there was a nuclear war in the meantime so they were forgotten about. The Apes became the dominant race and humans less so.

    The rest with time trabel bullshit and such is stupid.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The premise of the Escape-Conquest-Battle arc is extremely dumb but they somehow managed to build some genuinely entertaining schlock out of it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Escape

        They cheaped out as much as possible by just making it modern day.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's still a better movie than any of the new ones, except for Marky Mark's.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen

      MST3K 0804 - Deadly Mantis (wonderful bomb)

      Oh holy bomb, beneath the planet's mighty dome
      A beacon of power, where darkness is no more
      In the hands of those who seek peace and love
      The ultimate gift from above

      Chorus:
      Fall on your knees, oh listen to him say
      Peace on earth, in every way
      Hail the weapon that lights our path
      To a bright future, free of wrath

      Oh holy bomb, with rays so pure and bright
      Guiding us through the darkest night
      Explosive joy, dispelling all fear
      Rejoice, for love and hope are here

      Fall on your knees, oh sing his praise
      Radiant light forever stays
      Let all within this world proclaim
      Glory to the atom's sacred name

      Oh holy bomb, unite us as one
      No longer foes but siblings begun
      Together we stand, under your glow
      With gratitude everlasting grow

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i remember watching it for the first time as a kid, I will never forget Charlton Heston saying "it's doomsday". one thing i love about the old Planet of the Apes movies is how unhinged they were and they always had some plot twist like Taylor was on Earth all along! Then he BLOWS IT UP! But then some of the apes went back in time in his ship and Zira had a baby who started the planet of apes in the first place in a time loop! Plus the crazy underground mutants and the bomb. The original Planet of Apes was a masterpiece, the sequels were not but they were a wild ride. But Beneath had some problems like Brent was just not as good as Taylor and i missed Heston. and it was so sad how Nova died, the moment where she says his name is like my favorite ever but she should not have been killed, Nova and Taylor should have escaped

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The first half is a bland retread of the first movie. The second half is absolutely wild and a clear influence on Paul W.S. Anderson's films.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I have nothing to contribute but salute this glorious thread.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Beneath, Escape, and Conquest were written by one guy. He was fired and replaced for Battle, and it shows. He used the franchise to explore the allegory of race relations and Black Power/Ape Power.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This race shit was fricking weird. The new four movies unironically are far less woke than these three. A weird and rare scenario in which new = GOOD. Escape was still a based film though, I gotta give him that. If it was just Escape it would've been great.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Conquest is the best Apes film by a country mile. The new films are cowardly remakes that removed the Black Power allegory.

        Conquest is based on the Watts Riots. The police said that the protestors were "like apes in a zoo" and the entire film was written around that imagery.

        Rise is a shitty remake of Conquest with no soul.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Frick the Black Power allegory, nothing cool about comparing apes and Black people with each other, fricking weird and condescending. In popular culture, chimpanzees are White anyway so it makes no sense lmao

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Third best film out of the original five

        Actually I changed my mind, Beneath was better than Escape. Escape got corny too fast, and too weird with the having babies, rather than le monke arrives to present day based humour. Beneath had cool underground setting with plot twists and such. Still shittier than the new four though. I say this as someone who grew up on the original five and the series (which was better than most of the old films lmao) before the prequels were even announced.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Having a maincharacter who's basically cheaper Charlton Heston is weird. It's not all bad but it almost feels like it should be the first or last 15 minutes of a film and not a whole one. Granted tacking this film on as an opening to Escape would also feel clunky so I might just be talking out my ass.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Third best film out of the original five

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't feel like an actual movie. It's entire purpose was filler so that they could get to the Taylor scenes (just so they could kill him off.)

    Escape is better

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    holy shit how many planet of the apes movies do we need
    there's already a dozen old ones and now we have a dozen new ones

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I remember being scared of the mutants as a kid.

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