Best place to start/stop?

What are the best comics to start with for certain characters and teams?
>Batman
>Spider-Man
>Superman
>X-Men
>Daredevil
>Fantastic Four
>Thor
>etc.
What's the best place to stop?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Batman Year One and The Long Halloween.
    >Spider-Man
    ASM 0-200 or Spider-Man: Blue
    >X-Men
    X-Men: Season One and then Giant Size X-Men.
    >Daredevil
    Daredevil: Yellow
    >Fantastic Four
    Byrne run or Mark Waid

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ASM 0-200
      No, that shit's old and crap. Recommend shit that non-nerds can enjoy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off, NPC

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fanboys are the real npcs since they're total zealots for their nerdy cult.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy based.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy based.

            >NPCs coping and seething at being gatekept again

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's right tho. You're denying yourself historical culture just because something is old and you NEED *new product*. You are definitely NPC or a child.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You're denying yourself historical culture
              Dude, I don't give a frick. I watch/read things for entertainment, not for its historical value. Only nerds care about that lame shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no old shit
        All of these runs are kino of the highest order despite the fact that everyone in this thread will be screeching at both you and me.
        Batman by Grant Morrison
        Ultimate Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis
        New X-Men by Grant Morrison
        Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis
        Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman
        Thor by J. Michael Straczynski
        Superman by Peter J. Tomasi
        She-Hulk by Dan Slott
        Immortal Hulk by Al Ewing
        Silver Surfer by Dan Slott
        Wonder Woman by Greg Rucka
        Green Lantern by Geoff Johns
        The Flash by Joshua Williamson
        Captain America by Ed Brubaker
        Catwoman by Ed Brubaker
        Teen Titans by Geoff Johns
        Doctor Strange by Jason Aaron
        The Punisher: Marvel Knights by Garth Ennis
        Moon Knight by Jeff Lemire
        Immortal Iron Fist by Fraction & Brubaker
        Hawkeye by Matt Fraction
        Deadpool & Cable by Fabian Nicieza
        Guardians of the Galaxy by Dan Abnett
        Venom by Donny Cates
        Avengers by Jonathan Hickman
        Black Panther by Christopher Priest

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis
          >Immortal Hulk by Al Ewing
          >Immortal Iron Fist by Fraction & Brubaker
          >Hawkeye by Matt Fraction
          Can confirm that these are trash. The rest are either alright or I haven't read them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ultimate Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis
          Overrated

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            anon there have only been four writers to have done runs on Amazing Spider-Man in the entire 21st century and two very short lived runs on Spectacular Spider-Man
            Did you really want me to tell him to read the Dan Slott run? Or the JMS run that ends in One More Day? Or the Spencer run that ends in editorial cuckoldry?
            I love Bendis's Ultimate Spider-Man but even someone like you have to admit it's going to be the best overall experience for someone starting out and is too moronic to wade through Stan Lee's WORDSWORDSWORDS.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just don't read Spider-Man.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If someone is too moronic to read the Lee/Ditko run then they don't deserve early Spider-Man.
              I started out with USM too and it was fine but nothing special. Every single time it adapted a story from the main comics it did it worse, and every single character redesign was awful

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If someone is too moronic to read the Lee/Ditko run then they don't deserve early Spider-Man.
                It sucks, dude. Get over it. Not everyone's gonna like the shit you like.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You won't like Spider-Man comics at all, don't bother

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're right. I read them, and I didn't like them. Thought he was cool as a kid, then I grew up and realized I liked him for superficial reasons. Turns out, the character was just wish fulfillment for loser nerds. He literally started out as a self insert for some dweeby loser who never got any b***hes. He was just drawing out his Amazing Fantasies. Dude never worked for his power, nor worked for his body. His power's basically a cheat skill. He didn't earn shit. Now that's a spit in the face to someone who actually put in years of effort in becoming psychically fit and did everything in his power to maintain that to the best of his abilities. No cheats, no shortcuts, all natty. Spider-Man's a shit character for losers. Frick that homie. Spidey 2099's cool as frick though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you grew up if you're taking a comic book as seriously as you are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm really drunk right now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Try not to interpret things in the most cynical and reductive manner possibly or you won't enjoy anything. Take care

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I enjoy plenty of things, dude. Superheroes are just lame as frick to me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then stop wasting your time here, dumbdumb. Nobody cares what you like or dislike.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dumbdumb
                Dude, grow up. Quit talking like a child.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's with this "dude" crap? Shut the frick up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go outside.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Frick you. You go outside.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Already do, dude.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And? Find the nearest truck and jump in front of it while you're there, homosexual.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Already do, dude.

                You should both go outside and kiss each other.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You're right. I read them, and I didn't like them. Thought he was cool as a kid, then I grew up and realized I liked him for superficial reasons. Turns out, the character was just wish fulfillment for loser nerds. He literally started out as a self insert for some dweeby loser who never got any b***hes. He was just drawing out his Amazing Fantasies. Dude never worked for his power, nor worked for his body. His power's basically a cheat skill. He didn't earn shit. Now that's a spit in the face to someone who actually put in years of effort in becoming psychically fit and did everything in his power to maintain that to the best of his abilities. No cheats, no shortcuts, all natty. Spider-Man's a shit character for losers. Frick that homie. Spidey 2099's cool as frick though.

                I'm sorry anon, but you've got bad taste

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've read the entire Stan Lee run of ASM and while I enjoyed myself, he was surpassed by Roger Stern.
                I find it hilarious that you guys get upset by telling someone to START with, not "only read this and nothing else," Ultimate Spider-Man, to a person who openly says he wants modern recommendations.
                If OP genuinely starts reading some of the iconic modern runs from the big two and genuinely enjoys them, I imagine eventually he'll want to read OG Spider-Man, Claremont's X-Men, Dark Knight Returns, Alan Moore Swamp Thing, Perez's Wonder Woman, Wolfman's Teen Titans, etc. etc. Because that's just the nature of getting sucked into the infinite soap operas of the big two.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The OP says nothing about "modern".

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              With Ultimate, you could watch those motion comics on YouTube. Fully voiced and everything.

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        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Hawkeye by Matt Fraction
          This run is fricking shit. It single-handedly turned Hawkeye into the walking joke he is today

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis
            It's really good tho. Back in the 2000s, Bendis still knew how to write comics.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It really isn't. He had that dialogue bullshit back then too. With the plots not being particularly interesting and the art being so shit, I don't know why people overlook this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It really isn't
                It really is. Ultimate Spider-Man is overrated though.
                t. person who is right about everything

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. It's trash.
                USM is also bad, but it's better than this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope. It's trash.
                Not at all.
                >USM is also bad
                A broken clock is right twice a day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bendis isn't a broken clock, he's a shit writer.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He's got some pretty good stuff

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nope.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >unironically recommending Bendis, Slott, Aaron, and Nicieza

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Nicieza
            What's wrong with him?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anything before the 90s is usually a safe bet if you pick at random and don't give a frick about canon. Anything after that consult recommended reading lists

        Shut up gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >X-Men: Season One and then Giant Size X-Men
      I'd recommend the 1999 Children of the Atom mini before Season One. After that, the First Class books.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Daredevil: Yellow
      I'd recommend Frank Miller's The Man Without Fear, and then read his run. Yellow works best after Karen's death in Guardian Devil.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Batman
      Stop here

      All of these are horrible btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Haha whoa! So cool!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why should anyone start with Spider-Man Blue? Worst recommendation I've seen in a while

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why should anyone start with Spider-Man Blue?
        This is how Gwengays reproduce.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He's clearly suggesting Blue as an alternative ending point for Spider-Man

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is there no kirby fantastic four run?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it sucks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ASM 0-200 or Spider-Man: Blue
      based choice.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get amazing to 350 and fold spectacular 200 and web of 100 into it

        Pete was always best as a long form soap opera and those leave hella interesting endings for him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hello, reddit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a good example of what a good batman event is No Man's Land. i feel like it gives a you a good sense of whether you would like Batman comics or not.

      The most influential in terms of plot is probably Knightfall or Death in the Family, but those are more heavy on continuity so i would recommend you read those only after you are sure you would like to get in the weeds of Batman

      the most recent good Batman event is Batman RIP in my opinion, so if you want something relatively modern, that is a good bet

      Most of New 52 Batman is unfortunately not good, but the main Joker arc (Death of the Family - ('Death in' vs. 'Death of' is needlessly confusing in my opinion)) was decent with an interesting take on Joker, and one decent-sized arc is called Emperor Penguin, which I actually liked a lot.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Stop here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say stop before Batman INC at around Return of Bruce Wayne, Batman: The Return, and the finale of Batman and Robin.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Issue #1 to never. Remember you're here for life.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://originalmarveluniverse.blogspot.com/2009/06/omu-end.html

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Autism.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Autism.
        It makes perfect sense though. Although for FF I'd say it's #333 which is the true ending.
        Also, read this: https://www.tedagame.com/zak-site/Great-American-Novel/realtime_marvel_universe.html

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It makes perfect sense though.
          No it doesn't. It's all headcanon from some loser with too much on his hands IE no life.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Year One or Hush
    >Spider-Man
    Brand New Day
    >Superman
    All-Star Superman or Byrne's The Man of Steel
    >X-Men
    Claremont's run
    >Daredevil
    The Man Without Fear, then read vol. 2 (Smith, Mack, Bendis, Brubaker)
    >Fantastic Four
    Hickman's run
    >Thor
    Simonson's run, or, if you want something modern, start with vol. 3
    >etc.
    Johns' Green Lantern, starting with Rebirth
    Neil Gaiman's The Sandman
    Matt Wagner's Sandman Mystery Theatre
    Garth Ennis' and Warren Ellis' Hellblazer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Garth Ennis' and Warren Ellis' Hellblazer
      Warren Ellis barely wrote Hellblazer.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Start: Batman # 217 is generally considered the start of the Bronze Age.
    End: The end of No Man's Land was when I dropped off.
    >Spider-Man
    Start @ #1 and end whenever you start hating it. Carnage was the beginning of the end for me.
    >Superman
    No idea, I drift in and out. Nobody seems to agree on what they want from Superman, so... whatever. I started with EXILE and enjoyed most of the triangle era. Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is excellent but it works better if you've read some of the Silver Age issues.
    >X-Men
    Giant-Size or, if you don't mind pointless dialogue vs amazing art then start with Adams and Steranko issues of the OG title.
    >Daredevil
    Start at the beginning, be a man.
    Leave when he starts wearing the armor in the 90's.
    >Fantastic Four
    Issue #1 and end when they Simonson leave I guess.
    >Thor
    Skip to issue #126, that does away with the rougher Kirby issues and put Thor in space. Then read up the end of Simonson's run
    >etc.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice thread.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't start. There are better books out there than capeshit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Spoken like someone who only reads capeshit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I read everything.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the new mutants vol 1 is the best starting point for the new mutants

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Best to start
    Whatever looks fun
    >Best place to stop
    A few pages into whatever story you're not enjoying and pick up the next one. Comic fans didn't grow up spoonfed with recommendations and now every moron only reads the same three books

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Captain America
    >Start
    Tales Of Suspense #63
    >Stop
    Captain America #301

    I'm sure that I'm probably going to get absolutely shit on for this, but I didn't care for Gruenwald's run. It started off decent, but after Steve clashed with Walker in #350, it kind of felt largely directionless

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Dark Knight Returns. Don't read anything else with Batman in it, they're all worse. Just DKR and then stop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about Year One and the Loeb stuff? What about Last Crusade?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of them worse than Dark Knight Returns. That's the highest peak.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't mean they're bad.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically start from the origins of the 30s and stop around 1999. Almost everything after 1999 is not worth reading.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Basically start from the origins of the 30s
      Frick no. What's wrong with you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman's 30s comics are complete shit.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Year One. Stop when the New 52 happens.
    >Superman
    Really isn't one. Just as long as you stop when the New 52 happens.
    >Marvel
    All the Marvel characters you can read from like 1961-1991.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All Marvel characters have the same starting and stopping point: The 60s until the early 90s. After that proceed with caution.

    DC characters have different starting points, but they all have the same stopping point: The New 52.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mass replier calling others worthless
    kek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Real convincing. Laugh the pain away, homosexual.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for marvel i think you should stop before heroes reborn

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where do I start
    Marvel: Volume 1, Issue 1
    DC: Post-Crisis

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting question

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Batman: Year One
    >Spider-Man
    Amazing Fantasy #15
    >Superman
    Superman For All Seasons
    >X-Men
    skip it
    >Daredevil
    Daredevil: The Man Without Fear
    >Fantastic Four
    The Fantastic Four #1 by Kirby/Lee
    >Thor
    Journey into Mystery #83

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You should have a nice day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you had any balls, you'd come kill me yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      It's all one "guy" (who is in transition)

      If you had any balls, you'd come kill me yourself.

      we're autists talking about comics in this thread
      quit being normalgays and start being autistic

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's all one "guy" (who is in transition)

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Batman
    Start with Batman (1940) #19 because that's when Dick Sprang becomes a regular ghost artist. Stop with Detective Comics #327. Gotta get out before the new look takes hold.

    >Spider-Man
    Start with Amazing Fantasy #15 and end with Amazing Spider-Man #38. There are no good post-Ditko Spider-Man comics

    >Superman
    You're better off with those old Superman in the Forties/Fifties/Sixties compilations. Whole franchise falls apart with Kryptonite Nevermore anyway.

    >X-Men
    Start with Giant-Size X-Men and end with Excalibur #63 (the perfect epilogue to Claremont's run). There's some messy stuff between those poles but X-Men is better a something messy.

    >Daredevil
    First series, number 167-300 is pretty consistent for a long run of superhero comics.

    >Fantastic Four

    #1-100ish.

    >Thor

    Kirby run gets good halfway through but is a slog before that. Simonson is cool. DeFalco/Frenz is cool. Almost everything between those runs is awful. I do not recommend going through all of that.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What makes DC and Marvel so different to each other?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      DC is about gods in a human world and Marvel are human with gods powers.

      To sum up: DC is about characters and good comicbooks. Marvel is about good runs and funny interesting caracters.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Marvel heroes are relatable
      DC heroes are inspirational

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Great question

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The conundrum

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Complicated shit

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Don't bother

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