I know DC is awash in plucky teenage blondes, but I can't help but feel Bette is more neglected than most. I don't want her to be forgotten.
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Bette Thread
I know DC is awash in plucky teenage blondes, but I can't help but feel Bette is more neglected than most. I don't want her to be forgotten.
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Stay in school, plebe.
Is there a complied list of frickups by Kate out there?
When has Kate ever fricked up?
Off the top of my head, got kicked out of West Point because she refused to say she wasn't a lesbian despite hiding it for years already, spent over a decade as a blown out drunk, got kidnapped by an evil cult and stabbed in the heart, got her neck broken, claimed rape after she got pump and dumped by a supervillain, and once collapsed a third world nation.
That really hasn't been a thing since the Silver Age, and modern Dick is a complete ass towards her.
>and modern Dick is a complete ass towards her.
How anyone can be so mean to such a sweetheart is incomprehensible.
Given that Dick's character flaws, back when writers remembered he has them, were anger and arrogance, the most reasonable explanation is that he's mean to her because she stopped fawning over him.
Guess he heard about her and Hank.
>the most reasonable explanation is that he's mean to her because she stopped fawning over him.
Wow. It's not like he didn't have his chance. This paints Dick in a rather ugly light, all things considered.
At his worst, Dick is a genuine piece of shit towards people. Probably worse than Bruce in that regard. If I were writing it, I'd give him a massive blindspot regarding Bette where he still sees her as she was back when they were teens, and a lack of interaction has him unable to set aside those preconceived notions. And there is a fair bit of ego in play; he's openly denigrated her in front of others repeatedly and recognizing her means admitting he has been wrong the whole time. In response, Bette would simply be done with him. Not adversarial or anything, she'd be perfectly professional in their dealings but quite clear that she has zero interest in engaging him on a personal level and even less about his opinions regarding her. And that'd rankle Dick something fierce because he's completely caught off guard by someone dismissive of him. So yeah, Dick would be the bad guy in the situation - but he's never going to admit that.
>he still sees her as she was back when they were teens, and a lack of interaction has him unable to set aside those preconceived notions.
Honestly, this doesn’t sound too far off from Dick’s attitude towards Bette when they met after her reinvention.
this is an inappropriate work environment for women
People seem to forget, Dick telling her off in Titans 99 made perfect sense in the contiguity. Flamebird was a minor Teen Titans West member and parasocial Robin groupie. Bat-Girl didn’t exist, everything was retconned after COIE then again after Zero Hour.
Her first appearance post-Crisis is a post-hoc flashback retcon to TT #50, which means her Titans career was intact post-Crisis. It even alludes to her original appearances as Bat-Girl, it just uses Flamebird as her only superhero identity. Bette survived the Crisis with her history more or less intact. Either way you cut it, Dick is telling off a long-time TT member.
Titans West lasted for 8 issues in the 1970s, lets not make it more than it is.
Pretty sure he wanted her to stop being a super hero because he didn’t think she was cut out for it, and the point was that he was being hypocritical since he was just a pre-teen gymnast when he got his start.
It's such a waste to have Kate live vicariously through Bette in sending her to West Point. Bette isn't a soldier, and it's a mistake to make her Kate's mini-me.
God that shit pisses me off
>claimed rape after she got pump and dumped by a supervillain
Kek
Vampire hypnosis isn't rape. It's DC canon.
The author's reaction was even funnier.
>Kate seems to be scared
I mean, it's nice to see protagonists get scared every now and then, else it'd be pretty boring. And Kate is a big girl. She's probably had more than a few such situations during her drunken burnout phase. I'm actually surprised some blue haired lesbo isn't writing a book about Kate overcoming those particular demons because they're all about the struggle of victimization by society and expectations without acknowledging self-destructive lifestyles or behaviors.
she is clearly being hypno raped by a vampire in this scene
That version of Nocturna isn't a vampire, she just pretended to be in order to trick Kate. Let that sink in for a moment.
I guess Kate's just a bawd then.
What the hell, really?
bat woman is a bawd.
1. exist.
Let her be Batgirl again.
NO. There are too many Batgirls.
Remind me again how many Robins there are.
One. There is one character currently called "Robin." There are however two or three Batgirls.
>There is one character currently called "Robin."
Our girl has come so far!
Was this ever explained or was it just the author's fanfiction? I want more Maps Robin...
The Black and White story was pretty much just fanfiction with no actual explanation for why Maps was Robin, but the backup for the main Batman book had Maps larping as a Robin, with Batman only calling her that by the end to calm her after she almost died.
Except both Damian and Tim are Robin.
Two actually, Damian and Tim, Damian doing stuff outside of Gotham, and Tim is being gay.
Yeah so Cass and Steph fans can b***h even more!
She was never Batgirl in the first place.
She was Bat-Girl.
Does a hyphen really make that much of a difference?
Only for trademark and copyright purposes.
I still can’t believe how close we got to getting a Bette as Batgirl book.
They absolutely weren't seriously considering her. Though it'd be fun to see Flamebird ride alongside the other Batgirls for an adventure or two.
I don’t know, I think she had a real shot at it or at the very least a higher chance than Wendy, Misfit, and maybe even Cassandra.
Higher than Wendy and Misfit, certainly. Cassandra feels more likely still to eventually be the sole retainer of the mantle.
While true, they did mention wanting to change up who held the mantle, which is why I think that (theoretically) Bette may have had the slightest of edges over Cassandra.
>Putting a basic white girl over an asian.
Yeah, right. Like... Huh. That's exactly what happened. Man, times really have changed, huh?
Reddit and Twitter would have aneurysms if that happened today.
Reminder, her first re-appearance in years was her getting drained/killed by a Vampire while in her Hawkfire outfit
>while in her Hawkfire outfit
You'd figure she'd be able to put up a decent fight with flamethrowers and a jetpack.
She didn't even get an on-panel badass last stand. Poor Bette.
Well, at least she was Flamebird in that cameo from Green Lantern Blackstars three years ago.
I still find it weird she had a team-up with Cass before even meeting Babs face to face.
The Batgirl with the best legs
I want a legjob from her
I want to kiss her toned tennis thighs
Bette Kane and 1980s-to-1990s Peter Parker are really going at it
I don't even think Bette is capable of anything less when she's into someone.
Post the before and after of Better effortlessly slaughtering Donna on the court.
Huh, kind of weird seeing Bette know Nightwing was Dick. Seems they retconned it later on.
That's a pity. Considering their long history, it's a shame Dick doesn't reciprocate even a friendship. Of course, who knows what kind of history they have now, but all things considered, they do have... something. Even if it's ignored.
Wonder when she learned. And unlearned. And/or relearned.
It raises a bunch of questions considering Bruce is her first cousin.
Cass. Bette is basically the jock version of Babs, down to being a complete psychological mess, and would probably hit too close to home for Babs to want to deal with her. Steph would probably see her as a shallow doormat and have a fair bit of classism regarding her. Cass, regardless of her personal opinion, would pick up pretty quickly that Bette is desperately lonely and needs validation from others, and while not necessarily being friendly would at least be kind towards her.
Originally it was finding a new way to serve others after being booted from the Army. Elegy was pretty rock solid in regards to what drives Kate.
Cass is definitely well practiced at babysitting under-skilled but well-meaning vigilantes her own age.
Dick is his ward, no genetics are involved. This isn't Game of Thrones.
>What did Hank ever see in her, anyway?
If I saw a beautiful blonde in a red dress and mask taking charge of a disaster situation and rescue a bunch of sailors from going overboard, I would be pretty infatuated as well.
The beautiful blonde part alone would do it for me, but the mask does add a touch of mystery.
>She’s ranked fourth in the world.
I knew Bette was a good tennis player, but I didn’t know she was that good. Pretty impressive.
>Ywn have a friend as earnest and eager as Bette
🙁
I want to came on her legs
>ywn ravish Bette on the red clay of the tennis court after a sweaty day of training
🙁
Does she still carry a torch for Dick?
hot chicken
Who can be a good love interest for her?
Me.
She likes guys that are fit and athletic it seems. Definitely not me.
Beast Boy
I loved their friendship and hate how they essentially dropped it once Kate came to the scene.
The main man.
I read all of YJ and somehow I don't remember this
Young Justice 21
Maybe she can set Tim straight again.
>Just hang up the costume, Bette. You're going to get hurt if you keep doing this.
I'm fairly certain that it's just Taylor doing a running bit, but Dick has received a lot of serious head injuries recently.
Oh, it's definitely a gag, and Batman gets blown up every other day, and no one is clammoring for Bruce to become deaf from the pressure. It's just funny compared to the pages where he talks down to Bette.
>Dick tries to dress down Bette, but keeps getting her name wrong and confusing her with Steph
Are you ready for a very special issue of Nightwing where he kills himself after trip to the neurologist?
>Steph wears a red mini dress for a night out.
>Dick calls her "Betty"
>Well, I wasn't going for a Mad Men look, but I guess if you squint...
>Dick, are you regressing again?
>No, Babs. I'm fine. Must be the multiverse realigning or something. For a second I thought... nevermind.
>Mhmm...
>it's another "Dick desperately tries to pretend he hasn't spent the last 5 issues thinking Blockbuster is Solomon Grundy and getting lost in his own gentrified neighborhood" story arc
>Bette passes through Bludhaven on her way back home during a break from West Point.
>She finds Dick slumped against a dumpster, slurring and shaking. With a huge bump on his head.
>*sigh* I'm starting to get flashbacks to the first time Renee dumped Kate. C'mon, Dick. Let's get you home.
>Whozzat! I can't see!
>Open your eyes, dummy! How many hits to the head did you take.
>Just one! She had a bronze bust of William Shakespeare
I'm digging brain-damaged Dick more than I should.
>Okay, Dick. Let's get you bed, and I'll get you an ice pack for that bump.
>OMIGOD, Dick! Are you okay? And- Who the hell are you?
>Dick, you didn't tell me you had a girlfriend! I'm Bette. Bette Kane. Dick and I go way back, don't we Dick?
>Babsy, thisis Betsy, um... Betty!
>What happened to him?
>BIG. BUST.
>Wut.
>Someone hit him on the head with a bronze bust. Poor thing. Come on, I'll get you undressed and into bed.
>Oh, I think his girlfriend can handle that.
>Why "Babsy", Dick is practically family. I've known him since he was in short pants, you don't have to worry about me.
>A strange woman dragging him home and I shouldn't be worried? It's funny, Dick never mentioned you.
>Well. We do have a history, right Dick?
>She stalked me.
>We were childhood sweethearts.
>She wore a tiny dress and chased me around rooftops.
>It was summer. Young love was in the air. And there was that one party where I got all wet and you followed me around when I was only in a towel and a mask.
>Oh really?
>Babs, it was completely innocent. Aqualad had fishsticks and everything.
>What kind of party was this again?
They got to use the gayest colors dont they?
Also, if shes not enhanced, why do a bunch of dumb flips? Plant your feet.
>They got to use the gayest colors dont they?
Feels like DC is committed to making a statement of late. Frankly, I'd wish they'd stfu about it.
they are clearly courting the gay audience for some reason. They must have realized kids stopped reading their comics, so they're targeting exclusively autistic gays, hoping that their high income will make up for a lack of readers.
Who the hell's that dude?
The Tin Man
You made that up.
Yes, but it's not wholly inaccurate. Heartless seems to go through literal hearts to power himself.
Where the frick is this guy getting 200+ human hearts and how does he not know that artificial hearts are a thing?
He's been taking them from homeless, and we haven't gotten the gist of his deal yet. That story is getting delayed again and again, seemingly for filler.
Using NYC's single adult homeless population as a base and assuming that there are 3 equal sized sections of wall containing the same number of hearts - minus 4 because of the large jar on the right - 1 out of every 83 homeless persons in Bludhaven has been killed and had their heart removed by Heartless. That wall alone would make him the single most prolific serial killer ever.
Bet Joker's done better.
Joker would be categorized as a mass murderer.
It's Nightwing. In every run he gets beaten up a lot.
My dream is to turn Kate bi so I can have a threesome with the Kane cousins
Give her enough drinks, and I bet Kate would be down if there's another girl there. Even Bette.
>Ywn wake up with a hangover, a naked and sated Kate snuggled up to your chest, and a sleeping Bette nestled in the crook of your arm
🙁
Hehehehe, "lay lines"
Never heard of this character. What's her story?
Once upon a time, some people thought Batman and Robin were looking a little queer. So DC created Batwoman and Bat-Girl to give them someone to smooch and look heterosexual with. Years pass, and they decide to create a whole new "Batgirl" for the show to better represent the women's lib movement of the time, and Batwoman and Bat-Girl were retired. Mostly. Bat-Girl made an appearance as a Titan, I think, but a few continuity changes later and she was retooled as Flamebird. She made a few odd appearances here or there for nostalgia's sake, but when Batwoman was remade as lesbian Kate Kane, they made Bette her cousin and sidekick, right up until Tynion shipped her off to West Point.
>Bat-Girl made an appearance as a Titan, I think
Definitely was a thing. It’s probably the sole reason that she managed to mostly survive the Crisis.
She has more appearances as a Titan than solo.
Wonder if she was ever considered for the tv show.
No, the producers explicitly asked for a new character.
What was Betty's last appearance? The one from Detective Comics where she's having lunch with Kate?
If we’re talking mainstream appearance, then yes. If we’re including non-canon stories, then she sort of had an appearance recently in one of the DC vs Vampires spin-offs.
I can understand Flamebird and Hawkfire, but where the heck did he pull “Nightstar” from?
Strange to make a reference to Dick's daughter with Starfire. But I guess Bette being so much of a nobody nobody cares to remember her name is a continuing gag.
Why is the batfamily so bloated?
because Batman family comics are the only DC books that consistently sell decently.
If Dick thought the family was bloated back when Kathy and Bette were aboard, then I wonder what he thinks of it now.
He's post puberty and surrounded by babes. He's probably made peace with it.
She needs to appear in Batgirl
If you mean Batgirls, an interview hinted she might make an appearance. If you mean the movie, highly, incredibly unlikely. And not just because the movie was scrapped completely.
If they keep the minidress, and maybe make the dress a little more form fitting to accentuate her waist and bust, and cast a fifteen-sixteen year old actress with great legs that's as cute as a button, I can see a Bat-Girl movie doing well provided they keep the budget low and take a 90s adventure movie tone. I think something along the lines of The Shadow and The Phantom would fit really well with Betty and Kathy, even if Batman and Robin only make passing appearances and aren't in the picture for the most part.
I’m not very much into collecting statues, but I would give almost anything to have that one and the Kathy Kane statue.
I wouldn't have minded a cuter pose, but she does have great legs and a winning smile.
I’m just grateful that Bette merchandise exists, even if it is limited.
If it sells well, we might see more!
As cringe as it is when people try to push bette as batgirl, it's less pathetic then when people do it with huntress. Yeah she was batgirl for 5 minutes for specific reasons and most of those were there to help cassandra into the role.
If you're gonna count huntress as batgirl then harley quinn should be included too. Hell, superman has spent more time dressed up as batman for gags then huntress' tenure as "batgirl".
I think that mostly stems from DC itself counting both Bette and Helena as Batgirls in some of their supplemental material.
Hey, Steph was Batgirl for a relative picosecond, and yet here we are.
I think Bette unironically beats Steph in terms of tenure.
In overall time sure, but Steph blows her out in number of appearances.
Bat-Girl had like 10 appearances if you ignore reprints. Steph Batgirl had dozens of appearances during that Batman Reborn era.
Couldn’t a similar argument be made for Steph’s time as Robin?
Steph being Robin was actually a major deal within the comics themselves, as Tim expressly asked Bruce to take her on as Robin to train her. You could make the same argument for Carrie Kelly. If anything it'd be like trying to claim Maps as a Robin.
copium
yes steph was robin for 5 seconds, we might as well include that one kid from that one golden age story where Bruce tries to replace Dick
Regardless of it being a big deal, doesn’t it follow the same beats of Helena’s Batgirl tenure? It was a very short-loved stint that was only done as a gimmick that would drive Tim back into the role.
No one in-universe, even Helena, considers her to have been Batgirl.
>fanbase considers her a Robin
>DC considers her a Robin
No, because the internet glommed onto Girl Robin hard, and the whole reason she came back to life was because of SJW campaigning.
>Feminists: WHY DID YOU KILL GIRL ROBIN, REEEEEE!
>Me: Why?! Why the blonde with the big boobies! Won't someone think of the boobies!
That's completely false. She came back because Dixon briefly got to be writer on the Robin book during the pre-RIP era and brought her back because she's one of his pet characters before he got fired again for refusing to go along with DC's plans for Batman/Robin.
'Bette bros have Bette woes.'
I wish she'd make a comeback, too.
Babs: Best ass
Steph:Best breasts
Cass: Best abs
Bette: Best legs
Can we agree on this ?
Yes and yes.
Sounds good to me, though Bette’s abs are nothing to scoff at either.
>Bette and Cass have a washboard abs contest
>Stephanie!
>Yes Cass?
>Get me the hardest brick of cheese you can find.
Who’s the judge/judges?
Considering the contestants, Cass definitely has the edge, especially if the judges are pulled from the Batfamily, and Kate is always hard on Bette, for her own good.
>You actually did it. You really voted for the weirdo Batgirl instead of me.
>She objectively had the better abs.
>How? We have the exact same routine and bodyfat percentage.
>*mumbles*
>I'm sorry, what was that?
>...little bit of a happy trail...
>She's not going to frick you.
>She might!
>We have the exact same routine and bodyfat percentage.
Bette's a tennis player. She would have thicker thighs, and a meatier ass.
We're never again going to get any good sweaty tennis panels of her, are we?
Which one would Bette get along with best?
Ditzy horny rich girl turned tennis prodigy playing vigilante for kicks and to talk to boys.
They’d hate her. Even Babs would hate her and her reason for becoming Batgirl is almost as bad.
Yet they respect and revere perennial frickup and false soldier Kate Kane. What is Kate's motivation again?
Do they like Kate now?
I remember Dick and her getting on up till the New 52 reboot and everyone tolerating her through her heel turn in the Tynion Tec run.
I thought she was still on the outs.
They all love Kate *now*, after IF. Even Cass has forgotten that she killed Clayface.
But prior to that NOBODY liked Kate, even Babs. Especially Babs. Showing up in your own ongoing, beating the frick out of you and then leaving without elaborating further will have that effect on people.
>What is Kate's motivation again?
Having as much sex with as many women as possible.
I'd say Babs, just because I'd want to see the two interact. But honestly, I don't see them getting long.
>Can you believe I originally put on the cape because I had the hots for Robin? What other hero has "I was horny" as their origin story?
>...It's not about where you started.
I feel like nobody actually "loves" Kate, they just accept her because they have enough context to understand that she's a permanently fricked up person. I imagine that most of the non-Batfamily superheroes feel the same way about Bruce.
>What other hero has "I was horny" as their origin story?
In Babs' defense, it was a general need fo feel sexy, and maybe some light stalking, before Simone published her infamous panel.
>they just accept her because they have enough context to understand that she's a permanently fricked up person.
I mean, at this point she's just kinda there, because DC needs her for the Pride Month. And even then at this point she will probably be overshadowed by gay Robin or gay Superman. She hasn't done anything substantial for years now. And maybe that's for the best. My dream of dreams is that Kate will eventually fall into obscurity and Babs will take over as a Batwoman people actually give a frick about. That would solve so many problems.
Harper Row died on a way to her home planet.
>My dream of dreams is that Kate will eventually fall into obscurity and Babs will take over as a Batwoman people actually give a frick about.
>Kate retires to marry an Atlantic City showgirl and make an honest woman out of her.
>Finally! Babs thinks. Now is my chance!
>She unveils her new costume to the girls, one she's been saving for just this occasion.
>And on the television news, Bette is already saving people and beating up criminals in an outfit inspired by her Aunt Kathy.
They're too similar. I'm even having a hard time deciding who is more direct with their snark.
They should team her up with Harper Row and her gay brother
Flamebird and Bluebird, the rejected Batgirls
I'm the only one who thinks that the preggo story arc of Steph works better for Bette? She is a more "frick up Batgirl" than Steph
Only if Dick is the father.
Steph was more of a "frick up Robin", and that in and of itself was fairly contrived. She was decently competent as Batgirl.
Kate would pressure her into an abortion.
>C'mon Bette. You're young. There's no need for you to ruin your life over a few drinks and a femme looking pretty boy and some bad decisions in a dark alley.
>Kate, we just had awkward sex in the back seat of an old car.
>I don't need to hear any details.
Not really. With Bette there isn't much meat to the story since she's rich and older.
Going by her prior appearances, Bette's type is guys built like a Mack truck.
>Going by her prior appearances, Bette's type is guys built like a Mack truck.
I know. I was trying to imply drunk Kate might not be as discerning as sober Kate.
I don't think Kate could ever be so drunk as to not notice she's fricking a guy. I do think she's been so drunk as to make a couple of handsy passes at Bette.
Wouldn't work without deaging Bette.
Steph was 15yo and poor with a violent, recidivist father and addict mother, completely different from someone wealthy and in college.
>since she's rich and older
Famous rich girl in Gotham gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. And for the older thing she is like 19/20 still young
Bette is basically 30, same as Dick, Babs, and the rest of the Titans.
She wasn't 30 in the New52
The New 52 compressed all of DC’s continuity into a 5 year timeline. The New 52 was bad.
In current continuity Lian Harper is a teenager. The Titans are at minimum 30.
In Rebirth that was last Bette's canon appearance she wasn't 30 either
Reboots happen. Death Metal/Infinite Frontier was the most recent.
She’s hitting the wall, get over it.
Try mid-30s at the youngest. Lian Harper doesn't show up until well after Dick becomes Nightwing, which happened when he was 19. All the NTT crew are looking at ~35.
Bette can't be older than 23 otherwise she wouldn't have been able to attend West Point.
>Dick is ~35
>Bette, who is his contemporary, can't be older than 23
This is why West Point was a mistake.
The mistake was making Lian a teenager, something that pleased no one. Given that we're talking about a supporting character in a second string title, I'm willing to put money on DC quietly dropping teen Lian.
They’re 31-33
Dick was 17/18 and fresh in college when Talia was introduced. Damian is now 14.
EZ
Ages always change in DC like Dinah when she was introduced was in her early 20s and Ollie was already in his 40s and now Dinah is mid 30s but Ollie is still in his 40s
People gave Hal so much shit for the Arisia thing Ollie had to ask Dinah to lie about her age.
Yeah
People forget that when Ollie and Dinah start dating he always referred to her as "kid" so the writers knew there was a big age gap between them
It gets even weirder when you remember that Dinah was originally from a different universe and who was already a widow.
Pretty sure Ollie got slightly deaged.
Kek, I didn’t know about the widow part at all, I even read some of those old ones when she was way younger
Yeah, BC was originally from Earth-2 and didn't show up in main continuity until 1969.
You got it backwards, she was inhabiting the body of her daughter who had been placed in suspended animation that she forgot about because she had her memory erased. Also the Canary Cry was magic in nature.
Shit, it's been a while since I read Hard Travelling Heroes.
I knew there was some kind of weird body swappery.
It's kind of amazing that it took them 14 years to think of "she had a daughter" and they decided to use it to explain a body swap retcon instead of just saying that it had always been the daughter. And then 3 years later Crisis made it a moot point.
When I think of overly complicated continuity wank, I think Roy Thomas.
>Dinah when she was introduced was in her early 20s and Ollie was already in his 40s
Nice! Lucky archer.
She was also possessing the body of her own mother, because the Golden/Silver Age Canary turnover was weird.
>Dick is now older than Babs was pre-Flashpoint despite a canonical 7 year age gap back then
The real secret is to not worry about it, otherwise you realize that Batman and most his villains should be in their 50s and 60s. He's not the only one with a chronology problem. Carol Danvers' backstory requires her to be around 50 when she got her powers in order to work. The X-Men flat out don't make any sense.
>Bette can't be older than 23 otherwise she wouldn't have been able to attend West Point.
Everyone else got an age up in the interim. Why not Bette? It'd make West Point a moot point at this point, and then we just have to worry about her stint in the army.
I don't think anyone has actually gotten an age up. I'm pretty sure Steph got deaged considering she's dating a high schooler now.
Cass and Steph may have regressed, but Babs suddenly has a law degree when she went back to school for a library science degree, which got interrupted for her spine and politics, and at this point it's safe to say she's no longer 21. Dick may or may not still be younger than her, but it can't have been more than a year or two considering their latest flashbacks to childhood.
Dick now has a law degree too, despite dropping out of college after a year.
Therefore Bette should already have graduated and served her five years active service. And Kate now has to call her Sir.
Bette was already in college as per Elegy; the only reason she was in Gotham instead of California is because she was attending college there. However, West Point doesn't take transfer credits so she'd still have to spend 4 years there. However, that brings up another issue, when she first appeared in TT she was already a professional tennis player when Dick was a college freshman, which means she might actually be older than Dick. But we can go further. She just started college in Elegy, which means she's somewhere between 17-19. Then current continuity had Dick at 25 years old which gives them a 6-8 age gap. Secret Origins Annual #3, Bette's first post-Crisis appearance, occurs in a flashback to when Dick was still Robin which puts him at 18 at the oldest, which means that Bette was actually a preteen superhero and professional athlete.
Is Kate still a West Point dropout due to "Don't ask, don't tell"?
They aged her up to be as old as Bruce, so they still have a few years to milk it since it stuck around until 2011. It also had the side effect of extending Kate's bender by several years.
>It also had the side effect of extending Kate's bender by several years.
This just keeps getting more and more ridiculous
DADT was repealed in 2011. So assuming Kate got kicked out in 2011, and didn't apply for reinstatement a few months later for whatever reason, and that she is currently 42 and has been active for 4 years, going by Elegy's history her bender would have lasted 11 years.
>her bender would have lasted 11 years.
That's kinda hot.
So is she rocking a pushup bra, or have I been underestimating her bust all this time?
Nu52 was ages ago, but it could have just been a one issue thing by the artist. Bette was an albino like Kate later.
Even in that pic you can see that she doesn't have a large bust just by the ratio to the rest of her body.
>And Kate now has to call her Sir.
I like this
This would get Bette back into action faster.
Infinite Frontier, all the best stuff is canon.
Babs got her law degree through a “correspondence course” while working as Oracle. Dick got more of his E2 history worked in.
In the New 52 Dick and Babs were 21 and Wonder Woman and Cyborg were 23.
>30
yummy
Yes you are. Steph was the trailer trash glizzy gobbling teen daughter of a z-list costumed criminal who took it raw at age 14.
She absolutely is the one to get teen pregnant.
You know, there’s an interesting story you could tell with Bette discovering that Kathy Kane turned out to be an international super spy and the daughter of a Nazi war criminal. Could be an interesting way for her to reconnect with Dick, since he was involved with all that Spyral stuff.
Maybe Bette could quit West Point and go study at St. Hadrian’s instead, since their whole assassin training thing is probably more useful for being a superhero than military officer school.
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What kind of specialized branch you think Bette took in West Point? Since Kate is so insistent about Bette staying there
Medical services. She was studying sports medicine originally, no?
>She was studying sports medicine originally, no?
Indeed.
>5'6"
>120lbs
>Blonde
>It's natural!
Marry me, Bette!
>Hair: Blonde (yep, it's natural)
Well, it’s true.
She is the perfect woman and future mother of my children.
It still baffles me that she called out for Kate and not Jacob, Gar, or anyone else who didn’t treat her like garbage.
shitty writers gotta arbitrarily connect two characters that are popularly tied together yknow, regardless of narrative context.
Kate's family. And she had been with her more recently. And Bette's hopelessly vying for her approval.
True, but she thinks she’s about to die, so she must have been hit pretty hard on the head if the last person she wanted to see in this life was Kate.
Knowing that she wouldn't have to deal with Kate's bullshit anymore, she wanted to use her final words to tell Kate that her mother would hate her, Renee was right to dump her, and to do the world a favor by drinking herself to death again.
Despite being a minor character Bette somehow managed to get a Dick Grayson pulled on her the moment she started showing up in Bat titles.
Bette got fricked up like that to set up Kate being blackmaled into working for that shady government organization because they decided they desperately wanted her to fight ghosts for them. That really killed my interest in the Batwoman book.
Doesn't matter. Immediately prior to her senior year Bette publicly whistleblows that she never applied to West Point, was instead given a slot due to her family's deep connections to the US military and DoD, and gets discharged. When Kate angrily confronts her she simply recites the cadet's code of honor. Bette is annoyed but not surprised when Kate fails to grasp the blatantly intentional parallel. Bette then moves back to LA and resumes her pro tennis career.
>Bette then moves back to LA and resumes her pro tennis career.
But not before FINALLY doing a team up with Babs.
Bettesimps, i have a question for you.
I’ve often thought that Bette should have been fixed during DC You and used in place of Helena or Agent 8 in Grayson. Morrison had brought back Kathy Kane as Agent Zero of Spyral. Did she seriously not know her aunt was a spy? Was she in on it? How has this still not been addressed?
It’s hard to say. Morrison’s run showed that Kathy did have Batgirl as a sidekick, but it was never properly explained if this was Bette or if she knew anything about Kathy’s role as a spy.