>I won't argue
I know you won't. At most you will argue poorly. >with a fricking moron that has zero input about anything
false, also an ad hominem attack. Fallacious >only guessing
false
I'm making an inference, not a guess. A deduction, if you will.
>Not an argument.
That's what people say when they're ignoring an argument. The prequel gay is confused when others don't deceive themselves as it does.
>That's what people say when they're ignoring an argument.
False, your argument is saying that it is not good because you were not personally interested in it. That is fallacious, and therefor does not constitute an argument.
Oh, so they're a Government agency?
Yeah, I guess so.
2 years ago
Anonymous
False, you refuse to engage with legitimate criticisms of the abysmal and widely panned prequel trilogy (suspiciously only championed by millennials and zoomers who watched them as braindead children) and deflect with the usual canned responses such as >not an argument
regardless of what is said about your mistake-riddled nostalgia trip embarrassing children's cartoon. In fact, one might say you don't have an argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no one's going to bother reading that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you refuse to engage with legitimate criticisms
your personal feelings are not legitimate criticism
and neither is your wojak
2 years ago
Anonymous
>prequels are less bad than nuwars >therefore prequels good
Nice photos of the RLM audience
2 years ago
Anonymous
The plot of the prequels is fricking Shakespeare-tier, but Lucas can't write dialog to save his foreskin, so we were left with the potential of a masterpiece spearheaded by a thumbs-only chimpanzee. >verification not required
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Luke watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett. Did I ever tell you l fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senators room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms not the robot in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
2 years ago
Anonymous
as I said, lucas writes dialog like an all thumbs monkey.
>Captcha: H8S0Y
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Luke watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett. Did I ever tell you l fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senators room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms not the robot in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
it's a matte painting, the actors are in a tiny room
[...]
probably just places to talk about Jedi things and walk around. That's exactly what they use them for in the movies.
[...]
can you imagine the complaints if the death star was in the prequels rather than the original trilogy? lmao
Lucas was too moronic to live. He didn't get that you shouldn't just copy concept art 1:1 with no thought behind it.
Princess Pam is trying to get Count Shrute to complete the Jawa Reports, but Jim Solo keeps distracting Count Shrute by using a droid to pretend there’s somebody trapped in the trash compactor, then Jedi Master Mik-El Skot accidentally leaves his lightsaber on while going to an important meeting and cuts the building in two.
Biggerer=betterer in the minds of tasteless dweebs. Hack fantasy/scifi writers have no sense of scale or aesthetics so they compensate by scaling everything up to ridiculous portions or numbers. That's why every building is the size of a mountain, or every battle has a thousand capital ships or a million men. It's just shitty writing from a shitty imagination that appeals to people with shit sensibilities.
To show off the decadence that the Order had which was one of the main reasons for it's fall. I swear you RLM homosexual huff your own farts so much that your brain is utterly incapable to understand a movie for 12 year olds.
The Jedi order is the church of its universe so of course despite being about "a greater good" they are power hungry as frick and they have to show off.
They're not analogous because the only people who follow the Jedi religion are the cloistered monks and their trainees. If they were acting as a true church they would be preaching their religion to the masses, to all those people in the laity who don't have force powers or access to the temple archives. When I watched the prequels I was given the impression that Corsucant's average man in the street knows very little about the Jedi and cares even less. No one seems to be going to the Jedi for spiritual guidance or charity or anything else really. In our world churchmen spoke out against slavery, whereas the jedi order was content to leave Anakin's mum in bondage, and Anakin as it would seem never asked them to intervene on her behalf, maybe because he knew they would say no.
I didn't mean that The Jedi order is the church in that sense. I meant that the jedi order are hypocritical like the church is.
It's literally written in the post.
Again, not an argument nor a retort.
Do better next post.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's no debate to be had, that post was produced by an idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's no debate to be had
True. It's a fact that the church is hypocritical as shit. >that post was produced by an idiot
Told you to do better and still failed, man. One job.
>entire planet covered in one big city >nooo you can't just have a megastructure temple filled with nothing >especially not in a universe where robot labor is probably less than mexican labor
I have no idea. Never watched the behind-the-scenes/documentaries of Star Wars.
I always assumed the dark stuff was part of Luke's character drifting towards the power complex of his father, but I'm also not sure the original concept or storyline actually goes that deep.
I mean it's just a shirt and some pants, and a glove to cover a prosthetic hand that looks exactly like a real hand, for some reason.
[...]
Why do the jedi need a uniform anyway? Their whole idea is about being beyond the physical. What if Luke actually tried to help Jabba and he had a change of heart and became a jedi, the frick is he gonna wear?
It doesn't matter. None of this matters.
I have no idea. Never watched the behind-the-scenes/documentaries of Star Wars.
I always assumed the dark stuff was part of Luke's character drifting towards the power complex of his father, but I'm also not sure the original concept or storyline actually goes that deep.
I mean it's just a shirt and some pants, and a glove to cover a prosthetic hand that looks exactly like a real hand, for some reason.
Why do the jedi need a uniform anyway? Their whole idea is about being beyond the physical. What if Luke actually tried to help Jabba and he had a change of heart and became a jedi, the frick is he gonna wear?
It doesn't matter. None of this matters.
>Why do the jedi need a uniform anyway? Their whole idea is about being beyond the physical.
A uniform is the shedding of the physical, which includes your personal identity rooted in materialism.
>wasn't the black suit from episode 6 supposed to be what the Jedi originally wore?
No. There is supposed to be an ambiguity about Luke. Black symbolises the dark side, so the costume suggests that Luke has a connection to it, namely his fallen father that he needs to save. It also suggests that Luke has an inner struggle and has to fight the temptation of the dark side. In his fight with Vader at the end, he falls to the temptation of rage and wins the fight against his reticent father, but then pulls himself back to be merciful. The black Luke wears isn't a Jedi thing, but characterization and inner struggle.
They contract with the government and other planets to settle disputes. When the war broke out they all became generals as private military contractors. Huge pork and barrel spending bills pass the senate that fund the Jedi Industrial complex.
Why did a trade organization need an entire army? Why couldn't they just blockade Naboo into submission? Palpatine just wanted the Queen to sign a treaty. Why was he in such a rush? Or did he want everything gradually to escalate out of control to his advantage?
The plan was always to invade Naboo, Sheev knew the Chancellor would do nothing about it and that would lead to a vote of no confidence which in turn lead to Sheev becoming elected Chancellor, it didn't matter if the invasion succeeded in the longrun. He only accelerated the invasion because the Chancellor sent Jedi to try and force a settlement and he needed the invasion to happen one way or another.
Episode 3 was great. I remember seeing it in a packed theater and everyone was ecstatic. Early 2000s movies didn't look as good as those of today but it was still a joy to go to them.
Why did Obi-Wan go into hiding with an assumed name but wear the distinctive robes of a jedi (formerly desert-dweller robes before Lucas, uh, fixed the story)?
Why did the jedi have to be weird celibate buddhist monks with no desires (except they all had desires) that were easily duped by a dumb trick into taking part in a space land war(??)?
Why did C3PO have to be revealed to have been built by Darth Vader? Seems like a pretty big coincidence considering how big the galaxy is and the fact it adds no significance to any character's story.
Why did Anakin fall for Palpatine's deception any five year old could easily see through?
Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
Why was Anakin suddenly totally onboard with murdering a shitload of children?
Why can't senator's have romantic relationships?
Why did Jango hire an assassin to hire a droid to hire some bugs to kill Omanipadmehum instead of doing it himself, and why didn't he kill the two jedi who witnessed this when he was given ample opportunity to do so?
Why jar jar?
Why the awkward humor that never lands unless you're the kind of hyperactive mentally deficient child who likes the bleating noises the Minions make?
Why did no one in the council or anywhere else question the discovery of a standing army of millions of clones?
Why did the whole galaxy forget about jedi less than twenty years after they were flushed out of their temple?
Why the special edition changes? (Vader's "no's" in RotJ especially. man you prequel babbies are moronic for being apologists for this, but i mean what else should i expect?)
Why general grievous?
Why darth maul?
Why tyrannis? (i'll go easy on this one because Christopher Lee kicks ass and is welcome in any movie i watch)
Why the half hour ballerina duel at the end of rots?
Why did Obi-Wan age 30 years in 19? Being sad in the desert is not a good argument.
Why did Ohmanipadmdhummmmm die of a broken heart (lmao)?
Lmao this is exactly what fans of the prequels and sequels do. Might as well just plug your ears and go "I CAN'T HEAR YOU, BLAH BLAH BLAH," like a young child does when they hear it's time to get off the jungle gym. You're embarrassing lol
Not them, but while I mock them relentlessly, I seriously think (and know) that The Last Jedi is pretty frickin kino.
TRoS is just mixed up recyclables and hot garbage.
I respect your opinion because at least you're honest. I can see why an OT purist would like that movie.
But the truth is that there's a disconnect between casual audiences and actual fans. The people who make these threads crying about the prequels all the time fall more under the general audience category.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks, anon, made my day with that. Respect back to ya.
>But the truth is that there's a disconnect between casual audiences and actual fans. The people who make these threads crying about the prequels all the time fall more under the general audience category.
Very well said, man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the case of the prequels in particular, while there are obvious flaws, I attribute most of that on the time frame they were made in, and the state of digital effects. Lucas as a filmmaker has 2 primary flaws that have interfered with his work over time.
1. He is very focused on film tech and visuals, always wanting to push the boundaries in terms of effects, which can sometimes make the plot suffer.
2. He was never good with dialogue as he was with story and more importantly concepts.
I'm willing to overlook a lot of these flaws because I still like the story decisions, despite the fact that not all of that was apparent in the actual films and was expanded on through other media, and because I think the films should've either been made directly after the OT, or much later, in the mid to late 2010s.
I also think things could've turned out better if George was a producer and overseer of the projects and had someone else directing. We already know he tried that, but the other directors were unfortunately too afraid to tamper with Star Wars, and all told him to do his thing. Never mind the fact that he was surrounded by yes men.
This is my perspective as a fan rather than a casual moviegoer, as I'll be inherently more biased.
And as for TLJ, I did like that one the most out of the ST.
2 years ago
Anonymous
While I enjoy some of the more theatrical dialogue in the movies (as well as the performances that went with it), it's more or less a fact that it's harder for an introvert (like George) to write convincing or good dialogue than someone who is more extroverted.
Then again, the prequels were heavily influenced by 30s cinema and dialogue, so there's that.
The OT formula of hiring different directors could've worked quite well, because the story itself was finished.
The ST suffered primarily because the story wasn't mapped out entirely, and the films felt disjointed.
Taking all of that into account, I think if someone were to do a fourth trilogy, and be mindful of all these facts, it could be quite good.
But in a way, that's what the EU is, either Legends or canon. It's giving people the opportunity to present their own takes, set in that world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And as for TLJ, I did like that one the most out of the ST.
Working backwards, yeah it's sad that TFA doesn't hold up, but I feel has some cool stuff in it and is entertaining, but comes off as fan fiction anymore because I dislike where it ultimately goes, that is the toilet in TRoS. I mean, the Emperor? Are fricking...
So anyway
>Never mind the fact that he was surrounded by yes men.
To be fair, until TPM, which regardless of its shortcomings, stands as the strongest of the prequels. And yes, its weaknesses are in the dialogue dept, painfully so.
>1. He is very focused on film tech and visuals, always wanting to push the boundaries in terms of effects, which can sometimes make the plot suffer.
You know, I disagree there. I think the plot remains intact, but the delivery, or the bad delivery breaks your suspension of disbelief in a quasi-conscious way, if that makes any sense.
To me, the prequels are masterpieces that need a bit of chiseling from someone who at least can emulate the proper style of the director.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I completely agree with your last point. It's a shame that most people can't really see eye to eye due to OT/PT/ST tribalism.
Everyone thinks they know best, but the truth lies somewhere in between all of those. There's pros and cons to each trilogy. I simply believe the OT was best specifically as films.
The broader aspect of the franchise such as books, comics, etc is a whole other can of worms, and the quality can vary a lot, depending on the writer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I simply believe the OT was best specifically as films.
Bob Ross would have called them a happy accident, and they were. Yes tons of care and blood, sweat, and tears went into it, but luck was also a factor. That film came at just the right time. If he waited even ten years, we would not even be chatting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what are you talking about? these threads are made because they generate replies. there's the same number of threads proclaiming "why are the prequels so kino?" on here and they have the same content as this one
Lmao this is exactly what fans of the prequels and sequels do. Might as well just plug your ears and go "I CAN'T HEAR YOU, BLAH BLAH BLAH," like a young child does when they hear it's time to get off the jungle gym. You're embarrassing lol
>Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
It's there as a litmus test. You'll either get it or you won't.
I'm guessing it's people who are perceiving it as some sci fi epic in the style of Dune and not understanding Star Wars.
The criticism makes more sense in general if you remove various elements of star wars and start looking at it as if it's Trek or Edge of Tomorrow or something. It's like people haven't even seen the original 1977 film.
>it's people who are perceiving it as some sci fi epic in the style of Dune and not understanding Star Wars.
I get that now, thanks. It's like they forget that SW was always a joke and it accidentally got taken seriously. Don't get me wrong, the originals are great, but also hokey and full of in-jokes.
Chewbacca even gives a stock Tarzan yell straight up and I love it.
Yeah. It's not a joke in the sense of it being a comedy but it's a fairy tale set in a sci fi setting with a ridiculous amount of influences and aspects in it.
I think anons were expecting Babylon 5 and not Flash Gordon or Cantina music.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I think anons were expecting Babylon 5
Definitely. And that is what Star Trek became and worse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't have anything against hard sci fi but find it pretty funny when people treat a movie with space wizards and alien beatles as something like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol! just the way you put it.
It even almost starts out saying >Once upon a time
and they still don't get it.
but star wars is "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away". how would they know about american culture if it was "a long time ago"? it sounds like it was probably before the 50s happened
got an explanation? i mean, i know the real answer is to sell toys, but i wanna know the contrived explanations you've been carrying around in that rattling cranium of yours since you read it in a book fair novel at 7 years of age.
I've been drinking I will try to answer. Im not copy pasta questions It is making message to long.
1. Idk i dont like this either
2. The jedi are corrupt and evil Anakin screams about it in the last dual
3. I agree, I didn't like this
4. I think the prequals were kind of made to be like a play kind of Shakespeare like , same critique can be bought against any classic story.
4. idk kind of weird you noticed / cared about this
5. In ep 2? The tribe killed his mom. By ep 3 he already done it once / was a crazy war vet/ trying to save his wife/ Jedi are evil and the kids are brainwashed
6. they can. The reason Padme said she cant is she was referring to being in a relationship with anakin who is a jedi and jedi cant.
7. idk cant remember
8. to appeal to kids
9. to appeal to kids
10. They panicked and just needed an army. Idk I agree its dumb. But you can argue jedi have extreme hubris / senate controlled by sith
11. 99% of the citzens have never seen a jedi when the jedi were around. alot of people probably thought they were myths even when they were alive.
12. idk the differences
13.14.15 they are villains. Stupid question. there is a argument all 3 equal darth vader so vader replaced all 3
14. It was cool
15. Idk
16 I always thought palpetine killer her thats why he had a creepy smile on his face when he told vader she died
>Why did Obi-Wan go into hiding with an assumed name but wear the distinctive robes of a jedi
They aren't Jedi Robes. The Jedi just dress in a humble manner.
>Why did Anakin fall for Palpatine's deception any five year old could easily see through?
Anakin knew he was deceived the moment he killed Mace Windu.
>Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
You can probably find all kind of weird gimmick restaurants there.
>Why was Anakin suddenly totally onboard with murdering a shitload of children?
He had experience.
>Why can't senator's have romantic relationships?
It would be a scandalous relationship and I assume a Queen isn't supposed to just have flings with random Jedis like that.
>Why did the whole galaxy forget about jedi less than twenty years after they were flushed out of their temple?
There are only a handful of Jedis compared to a huge Galaxy filled with Billions of people. The percentage of force users is absurdly low.
>Why did Obi-Wan age 30 years in 19? Being sad in the desert is not a good argument.
The sun is actually the primary reason for visible skin aging IRL.
>Why did Ohmanipadmdhummmmm die of a broken heart (lmao)?
Anakin brainwashed her unintentionally with the force and made her be his always loyal, loving GF. Dying of a broken heart is an unfortunate consequence of him accidentally reprogramming her to love him more than life itself.
And yet it's literally a bunch of neckbeards screeching about how Star Wars didn't live up to their expectations 40 years ago or whenever the prequels were being released.
It's embarrassing. Only understandable if you never liked Star Wars or films of that nature in general. Then, it's more acceptable, but still weird because you're complaining about a kids movie.
>The Prequel Redditor is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a zoomer, contrarian, pseud, manchild, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Redditor and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
so is your mom
How wude
damn it big
Looks cool
HD was a mistake.
>Halls the size of football fields filled with nothing
for what reason
Jedi hubris
probably just places to talk about Jedi things and walk around. That's exactly what they use them for in the movies.
can you imagine the complaints if the death star was in the prequels rather than the original trilogy? lmao
I can only imagine if Jar Jar or midichlorians got introduced in the sequels instead of the prequels.
Yes, if only.
Not an argument.
>Not an argument.
I won't argue with a fricking moron that has zero input about anything and is only guessing shit.
>I won't argue
I know you won't. At most you will argue poorly.
>with a fricking moron that has zero input about anything
false, also an ad hominem attack. Fallacious
>only guessing
false
I'm making an inference, not a guess. A deduction, if you will.
>Not an argument.
That's what people say when they're ignoring an argument. The prequel gay is confused when others don't deceive themselves as it does.
>That's what people say when they're ignoring an argument.
False, your argument is saying that it is not good because you were not personally interested in it. That is fallacious, and therefor does not constitute an argument.
Yeah, I guess so.
False, you refuse to engage with legitimate criticisms of the abysmal and widely panned prequel trilogy (suspiciously only championed by millennials and zoomers who watched them as braindead children) and deflect with the usual canned responses such as
>not an argument
regardless of what is said about your mistake-riddled nostalgia trip embarrassing children's cartoon. In fact, one might say you don't have an argument.
no one's going to bother reading that
>you refuse to engage with legitimate criticisms
your personal feelings are not legitimate criticism
and neither is your wojak
Nice photos of the RLM audience
The plot of the prequels is fricking Shakespeare-tier, but Lucas can't write dialog to save his foreskin, so we were left with the potential of a masterpiece spearheaded by a thumbs-only chimpanzee.
>verification not required
>Luke watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett. Did I ever tell you l fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senators room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms not the robot in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
as I said, lucas writes dialog like an all thumbs monkey.
>Captcha: H8S0Y
Truly Shakespearean.
There was genuinely no argument there. Why do you shitpost like that?
>probably just places to talk about Jedi things and walk around. That's exactly what they use them for in the movies.
Whoa how interesting
Lucas was too moronic to live. He didn't get that you shouldn't just copy concept art 1:1 with no thought behind it.
it would've been better with a practical set with the cgi concept art superimposed behind it, but other than that it's alright
its a temple, you idiot, temples are big as frick, havent you been on a fricking church? it´s the Jedi TEMPLE not the Jedi Office
>The Jedi Office
Princess Pam is trying to get Count Shrute to complete the Jawa Reports, but Jim Solo keeps distracting Count Shrute by using a droid to pretend there’s somebody trapped in the trash compactor, then Jedi Master Mik-El Skot accidentally leaves his lightsaber on while going to an important meeting and cuts the building in two.
Biggerer=betterer in the minds of tasteless dweebs. Hack fantasy/scifi writers have no sense of scale or aesthetics so they compensate by scaling everything up to ridiculous portions or numbers. That's why every building is the size of a mountain, or every battle has a thousand capital ships or a million men. It's just shitty writing from a shitty imagination that appeals to people with shit sensibilities.
You forgot to add "Mary Sue" to your post pleb.
To show off the decadence that the Order had which was one of the main reasons for it's fall. I swear you RLM homosexual huff your own farts so much that your brain is utterly incapable to understand a movie for 12 year olds.
>"its so deep bros"
>"its also a movie for 12 year olds"
Cope and seethe, as if those kids would even care about that supposed subtlety
These movies sucked
You're mentally moronic.
I thought the old order fell because an evil space wizard controled a clone army and had them all killed
NOOOOOO HELP ME PLINKETT AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
That is filled with people, and is so regularly.
you wouldn't get it, non-white
The Jedi order is the church of its universe so of course despite being about "a greater good" they are power hungry as frick and they have to show off.
>The Jedi order is the church of its universe
They're not analogous because the only people who follow the Jedi religion are the cloistered monks and their trainees. If they were acting as a true church they would be preaching their religion to the masses, to all those people in the laity who don't have force powers or access to the temple archives. When I watched the prequels I was given the impression that Corsucant's average man in the street knows very little about the Jedi and cares even less. No one seems to be going to the Jedi for spiritual guidance or charity or anything else really. In our world churchmen spoke out against slavery, whereas the jedi order was content to leave Anakin's mum in bondage, and Anakin as it would seem never asked them to intervene on her behalf, maybe because he knew they would say no.
I didn't mean that The Jedi order is the church in that sense. I meant that the jedi order are hypocritical like the church is.
It's literally written in the post.
Idiot.
Not an argument or even a retort.
Try again.
I'm stating facts.
Again, not an argument nor a retort.
Do better next post.
There's no debate to be had, that post was produced by an idiot.
>There's no debate to be had
True. It's a fact that the church is hypocritical as shit.
>that post was produced by an idiot
Told you to do better and still failed, man. One job.
Because it looks cool. Star Wars was built off the rule of cool before autists started demanding that everything have its own schematic diagram.
It's like the Vatican city except for an entire galaxy instead of just Earth
>entire planet covered in one big city
>nooo you can't just have a megastructure temple filled with nothing
>especially not in a universe where robot labor is probably less than mexican labor
sometimes the Jedi like to float around like Mary Poppins, but indoors and out of the rain
that's where they keep the midichlorians
Cause it looks cool
para tu
the scenarios or whatever look great though, especially the jedi temple
So are we supposed to believe that in a place this big, Jedis couldn't just, hide?
You think the Clones don't have a floorplan?
>hey guys let’s use all this wide open space to hide in
the carpet looks comfy
>the prequels are... LE BAD!!!!
>because... because... THE ROOMS ARE BIG, OKAY??
it's a matte painting, the actors are in a tiny room
The making Of is unironically more interesting than the entire ST
anything pre-9/11 is pretty comfy in general
>prequels are less bad than nuwars
>therefore prequels good
"Master...I feel we have lost...perspective."
sensible_chuckle
Who pays for the place?
Tax payers
The Jedi Order were more libertarian though, in fact it was getting too involved with the Republic that caused their downfall in the end
benefactors probably
imagine all the cobwebs that get stuck up there
It’s like door city over here
It's so disappointing that the Jedi all dress in Obi-Wan Kenobi Tatooine colours. They could be wearing something more vibrant and distinctive.
That one alien bawd was wearing a crop top
not all Jedi
Blessed be thou, George
wasn't the black suit from episode 6 supposed to be what the Jedi originally wore?
I have no idea. Never watched the behind-the-scenes/documentaries of Star Wars.
I always assumed the dark stuff was part of Luke's character drifting towards the power complex of his father, but I'm also not sure the original concept or storyline actually goes that deep.
I mean it's just a shirt and some pants, and a glove to cover a prosthetic hand that looks exactly like a real hand, for some reason.
It looks cool though.
K.
>looks cool though
Without a doubt. Nice contrast to his Episode IV attire and reflects his strange, offscreen development into a secret agent well.
Probably. Lucas changed his mind 5 later.
Why do the jedi need a uniform anyway? Their whole idea is about being beyond the physical. What if Luke actually tried to help Jabba and he had a change of heart and became a jedi, the frick is he gonna wear?
It doesn't matter. None of this matters.
>Why do the jedi need a uniform anyway? Their whole idea is about being beyond the physical.
A uniform is the shedding of the physical, which includes your personal identity rooted in materialism.
>wasn't the black suit from episode 6 supposed to be what the Jedi originally wore?
No. There is supposed to be an ambiguity about Luke. Black symbolises the dark side, so the costume suggests that Luke has a connection to it, namely his fallen father that he needs to save. It also suggests that Luke has an inner struggle and has to fight the temptation of the dark side. In his fight with Vader at the end, he falls to the temptation of rage and wins the fight against his reticent father, but then pulls himself back to be merciful. The black Luke wears isn't a Jedi thing, but characterization and inner struggle.
Where did the Jedi get their funding from?
already discussed.
Oh, so they're a Government agency?
They contract with the government and other planets to settle disputes. When the war broke out they all became generals as private military contractors. Huge pork and barrel spending bills pass the senate that fund the Jedi Industrial complex.
Palpatine's tax policy paid for it
Taxes are moronic, I mean, just don't pay me that much if you don't want me to have that much, frick.
Who was the Phantom Menace?
Maul
Palpatine
Darth Jar
Count Tyrannosaurus
the audience
Dennis
Dennis is a better name than what George went with
darth icky would have worked out Tbh
Why did a trade organization need an entire army? Why couldn't they just blockade Naboo into submission? Palpatine just wanted the Queen to sign a treaty. Why was he in such a rush? Or did he want everything gradually to escalate out of control to his advantage?
this is an AOTC-chad thread, look for TPM virgin thread elsewhere
>edgy incel gets lucky: the movie
no wonder it's praised here
The plan was always to invade Naboo, Sheev knew the Chancellor would do nothing about it and that would lead to a vote of no confidence which in turn lead to Sheev becoming elected Chancellor, it didn't matter if the invasion succeeded in the longrun. He only accelerated the invasion because the Chancellor sent Jedi to try and force a settlement and he needed the invasion to happen one way or another.
Its only a model
thank god for yoda bros
Episode 3 was great. I remember seeing it in a packed theater and everyone was ecstatic. Early 2000s movies didn't look as good as those of today but it was still a joy to go to them.
Why did Obi-Wan go into hiding with an assumed name but wear the distinctive robes of a jedi (formerly desert-dweller robes before Lucas, uh, fixed the story)?
Why did the jedi have to be weird celibate buddhist monks with no desires (except they all had desires) that were easily duped by a dumb trick into taking part in a space land war(??)?
Why did C3PO have to be revealed to have been built by Darth Vader? Seems like a pretty big coincidence considering how big the galaxy is and the fact it adds no significance to any character's story.
Why did Anakin fall for Palpatine's deception any five year old could easily see through?
Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
Why was Anakin suddenly totally onboard with murdering a shitload of children?
Why can't senator's have romantic relationships?
Why did Jango hire an assassin to hire a droid to hire some bugs to kill Omanipadmehum instead of doing it himself, and why didn't he kill the two jedi who witnessed this when he was given ample opportunity to do so?
Why jar jar?
Why the awkward humor that never lands unless you're the kind of hyperactive mentally deficient child who likes the bleating noises the Minions make?
Why did no one in the council or anywhere else question the discovery of a standing army of millions of clones?
Why did the whole galaxy forget about jedi less than twenty years after they were flushed out of their temple?
Why the special edition changes? (Vader's "no's" in RotJ especially. man you prequel babbies are moronic for being apologists for this, but i mean what else should i expect?)
Why general grievous?
Why darth maul?
Why tyrannis? (i'll go easy on this one because Christopher Lee kicks ass and is welcome in any movie i watch)
Why the half hour ballerina duel at the end of rots?
Why did Obi-Wan age 30 years in 19? Being sad in the desert is not a good argument.
Why did Ohmanipadmdhummmmm die of a broken heart (lmao)?
I could go on.
didn't read lol
pic rel, prequel babbies blissfully unaware of their own stupidity, tongues wagging in the breeze
Lmao this is exactly what fans of the prequels and sequels do. Might as well just plug your ears and go "I CAN'T HEAR YOU, BLAH BLAH BLAH," like a young child does when they hear it's time to get off the jungle gym. You're embarrassing lol
You don't have to pretend to hate the sequels anymore
Not them, but while I mock them relentlessly, I seriously think (and know) that The Last Jedi is pretty frickin kino.
TRoS is just mixed up recyclables and hot garbage.
I respect your opinion because at least you're honest. I can see why an OT purist would like that movie.
But the truth is that there's a disconnect between casual audiences and actual fans. The people who make these threads crying about the prequels all the time fall more under the general audience category.
Thanks, anon, made my day with that. Respect back to ya.
>But the truth is that there's a disconnect between casual audiences and actual fans. The people who make these threads crying about the prequels all the time fall more under the general audience category.
Very well said, man.
In the case of the prequels in particular, while there are obvious flaws, I attribute most of that on the time frame they were made in, and the state of digital effects. Lucas as a filmmaker has 2 primary flaws that have interfered with his work over time.
1. He is very focused on film tech and visuals, always wanting to push the boundaries in terms of effects, which can sometimes make the plot suffer.
2. He was never good with dialogue as he was with story and more importantly concepts.
I'm willing to overlook a lot of these flaws because I still like the story decisions, despite the fact that not all of that was apparent in the actual films and was expanded on through other media, and because I think the films should've either been made directly after the OT, or much later, in the mid to late 2010s.
I also think things could've turned out better if George was a producer and overseer of the projects and had someone else directing. We already know he tried that, but the other directors were unfortunately too afraid to tamper with Star Wars, and all told him to do his thing. Never mind the fact that he was surrounded by yes men.
This is my perspective as a fan rather than a casual moviegoer, as I'll be inherently more biased.
And as for TLJ, I did like that one the most out of the ST.
While I enjoy some of the more theatrical dialogue in the movies (as well as the performances that went with it), it's more or less a fact that it's harder for an introvert (like George) to write convincing or good dialogue than someone who is more extroverted.
Then again, the prequels were heavily influenced by 30s cinema and dialogue, so there's that.
The OT formula of hiring different directors could've worked quite well, because the story itself was finished.
The ST suffered primarily because the story wasn't mapped out entirely, and the films felt disjointed.
Taking all of that into account, I think if someone were to do a fourth trilogy, and be mindful of all these facts, it could be quite good.
But in a way, that's what the EU is, either Legends or canon. It's giving people the opportunity to present their own takes, set in that world.
>And as for TLJ, I did like that one the most out of the ST.
Working backwards, yeah it's sad that TFA doesn't hold up, but I feel has some cool stuff in it and is entertaining, but comes off as fan fiction anymore because I dislike where it ultimately goes, that is the toilet in TRoS. I mean, the Emperor? Are fricking...
So anyway
>Never mind the fact that he was surrounded by yes men.
To be fair, until TPM, which regardless of its shortcomings, stands as the strongest of the prequels. And yes, its weaknesses are in the dialogue dept, painfully so.
>1. He is very focused on film tech and visuals, always wanting to push the boundaries in terms of effects, which can sometimes make the plot suffer.
You know, I disagree there. I think the plot remains intact, but the delivery, or the bad delivery breaks your suspension of disbelief in a quasi-conscious way, if that makes any sense.
To me, the prequels are masterpieces that need a bit of chiseling from someone who at least can emulate the proper style of the director.
I completely agree with your last point. It's a shame that most people can't really see eye to eye due to OT/PT/ST tribalism.
Everyone thinks they know best, but the truth lies somewhere in between all of those. There's pros and cons to each trilogy. I simply believe the OT was best specifically as films.
The broader aspect of the franchise such as books, comics, etc is a whole other can of worms, and the quality can vary a lot, depending on the writer.
>I simply believe the OT was best specifically as films.
Bob Ross would have called them a happy accident, and they were. Yes tons of care and blood, sweat, and tears went into it, but luck was also a factor. That film came at just the right time. If he waited even ten years, we would not even be chatting.
what are you talking about? these threads are made because they generate replies. there's the same number of threads proclaiming "why are the prequels so kino?" on here and they have the same content as this one
chad 1 word response
wannabe novelist
Stop replying to yourself, you're being way too obvious. Fellow prequel fan here, just looking out for an ally.
roger-roger haha 🙂
more takey meds, less makey threads
adults don't talk like that, sweetheart
you're right, adults cope and seethe about their childhood being ruined by darth jar jar kek
Based.
I got banned from Fark a decade ago or more for replying:
>Nope.
to some enormous screed. They're the worst there.
>Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
It's there as a litmus test. You'll either get it or you won't.
This. I can't even understand people that hate that scene. They probably get triggered by to use of the word "hell" too.
I'm guessing it's people who are perceiving it as some sci fi epic in the style of Dune and not understanding Star Wars.
The criticism makes more sense in general if you remove various elements of star wars and start looking at it as if it's Trek or Edge of Tomorrow or something. It's like people haven't even seen the original 1977 film.
>it's people who are perceiving it as some sci fi epic in the style of Dune and not understanding Star Wars.
I get that now, thanks. It's like they forget that SW was always a joke and it accidentally got taken seriously. Don't get me wrong, the originals are great, but also hokey and full of in-jokes.
Chewbacca even gives a stock Tarzan yell straight up and I love it.
Yeah. It's not a joke in the sense of it being a comedy but it's a fairy tale set in a sci fi setting with a ridiculous amount of influences and aspects in it.
I think anons were expecting Babylon 5 and not Flash Gordon or Cantina music.
>I think anons were expecting Babylon 5
Definitely. And that is what Star Trek became and worse.
I don't have anything against hard sci fi but find it pretty funny when people treat a movie with space wizards and alien beatles as something like that.
lol! just the way you put it.
It even almost starts out saying
>Once upon a time
and they still don't get it.
but star wars is "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away". how would they know about american culture if it was "a long time ago"? it sounds like it was probably before the 50s happened
8/10
you're not bad.
>why does X character exist
Behold, big brained prequel haters
got an explanation? i mean, i know the real answer is to sell toys, but i wanna know the contrived explanations you've been carrying around in that rattling cranium of yours since you read it in a book fair novel at 7 years of age.
Why do villains exist in a movie about heroes? I'm honestly not sure. You got me.
you beat me to it. I am pretty sure hes baiting , some of his real questions have been answered here a hundred times before
I've been drinking I will try to answer. Im not copy pasta questions It is making message to long.
1. Idk i dont like this either
2. The jedi are corrupt and evil Anakin screams about it in the last dual
3. I agree, I didn't like this
4. I think the prequals were kind of made to be like a play kind of Shakespeare like , same critique can be bought against any classic story.
4. idk kind of weird you noticed / cared about this
5. In ep 2? The tribe killed his mom. By ep 3 he already done it once / was a crazy war vet/ trying to save his wife/ Jedi are evil and the kids are brainwashed
6. they can. The reason Padme said she cant is she was referring to being in a relationship with anakin who is a jedi and jedi cant.
7. idk cant remember
8. to appeal to kids
9. to appeal to kids
10. They panicked and just needed an army. Idk I agree its dumb. But you can argue jedi have extreme hubris / senate controlled by sith
11. 99% of the citzens have never seen a jedi when the jedi were around. alot of people probably thought they were myths even when they were alive.
12. idk the differences
13.14.15 they are villains. Stupid question. there is a argument all 3 equal darth vader so vader replaced all 3
14. It was cool
15. Idk
16 I always thought palpetine killer her thats why he had a creepy smile on his face when he told vader she died
>I've been drinking
>Why did Obi-Wan go into hiding with an assumed name but wear the distinctive robes of a jedi
They aren't Jedi Robes. The Jedi just dress in a humble manner.
>Why did Anakin fall for Palpatine's deception any five year old could easily see through?
Anakin knew he was deceived the moment he killed Mace Windu.
>Why was there a 1950's style american diner in a science fantasy setting's galactic capitol?
You can probably find all kind of weird gimmick restaurants there.
>Why was Anakin suddenly totally onboard with murdering a shitload of children?
He had experience.
>Why can't senator's have romantic relationships?
It would be a scandalous relationship and I assume a Queen isn't supposed to just have flings with random Jedis like that.
>Why did the whole galaxy forget about jedi less than twenty years after they were flushed out of their temple?
There are only a handful of Jedis compared to a huge Galaxy filled with Billions of people. The percentage of force users is absurdly low.
>Why did Obi-Wan age 30 years in 19? Being sad in the desert is not a good argument.
The sun is actually the primary reason for visible skin aging IRL.
>Why did Ohmanipadmdhummmmm die of a broken heart (lmao)?
Anakin brainwashed her unintentionally with the force and made her be his always loyal, loving GF. Dying of a broken heart is an unfortunate consequence of him accidentally reprogramming her to love him more than life itself.
>BIG BEAR CHASE ME
The definition of soulless
>backdrops are ok but CGI makes my tummy hurt
how do they pay for it all?
They sublet to Cylons in the basement, no one ever knew.
UNTIL NOW..
They're a state agency of the Republic, so likely with tax funds.
uhhh, what's going on in the bottom left?
Who cares is what.
>just turn brain off and consoom movie
Laughably bad compositing is what's happening there.
The npcs are just blatantly ghosting, right? It's not an optical illusion?
a lot of people think this is bad CGI but it's all minatures and matte paintings
what it really is is bad compositing, which is worse
Why doesn't the pillar behind them have a shadow like the others?
>We're never gonna beat Avatar. Nobody can.
Prequelcucks can’t stop losing
And yet it's literally a bunch of neckbeards screeching about how Star Wars didn't live up to their expectations 40 years ago or whenever the prequels were being released.
It's embarrassing. Only understandable if you never liked Star Wars or films of that nature in general. Then, it's more acceptable, but still weird because you're complaining about a kids movie.
>not one "for you"
Cinemaphile is dead
Since the Jedi were holding their breath, why didn't they just wait until they couldn't hold it any longer? They had to have given up eventually
And I too can get into hard sci-fi, but I want that OUT of my SW and ST.
Looks like a background from a 90s FMV game
Where's the shadow?
lol ate my thought..I'll finish here because I'm not deleting:
>To be fair, until TPM...they had every reason not to doubt him
It's only a matte painting
>You will never own a twilek slave girl who is forced to dance for you while you hold her chain collar
why even live
>we could have this if it wasn't for windus
>The Prequel Redditor is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a zoomer, contrarian, pseud, manchild, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Redditor and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
Nice Temple. Be a shame if something happened to it.