Bill Watterson's "The Mysteries"

What's Cinemaphile's verdict? You know, if you think about how the book's art was made from various independent bits created by more than one artist, elevating the whole into a new level beyond the sum of its parts, that's basically how AI art works.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't mind save the planet messages when they're accompanied by schizo nightmare things happening. Simple as.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you mind them at all?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good question. I could say something about them being overly preachy like Al Gore's hypocritical slop, but Captain Planet was kino too.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that's basically how AI art works.
    Except it's not if only by virtue of being able to properly assign credit where credit is due. You're an idiot.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious. Would you consider AI art valid then if it included, in metadata for example, a list of every referenced copyrighted work?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        even if it did that it would not be art

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          So if credit doesn't matter and ultimately you'll fall back on your specific notion of what "art" is, why bring it up?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a different guy, my point is that no matter how people try to make image generators morally ok, it still can't be art if it's not a product of human self expression.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a middling art book with maybe a single page worth of writing.
    I was fine with padding his retirement fund, but I won't be buying his next one of these. 20 bucks is a lot for a 100 word essay.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Regardless of what factors make it "middling" for you, it's a standard price tag for a hardcover picture book anon. I appreciate how Watterson clearly vetoed any reference to Calvin and Hobbes in the book itself and direct promotion btw.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would pay 20$ for a Watterson book. This is a book some other guy did static pictures for, that Waterson wrote most of a single page of text for.
        It is not what I signed up for.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean with "static"? (Actually asking)

          Anyway, both contributed artwork, though Kascht's stuff is certainly in the spotlight for the average audience since he handled the figures.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean that it's not the sequential comic strip that Watterson is known for.

            To clear it up for everyone who doesn't own it, this and the OP's pic is an example of a page in this book. Every time you turn a page, you have on the left a single sentence. That's it. Like a Heathcliff strip. On the right you have a single piece of art like this and OP's pic.
            Rinse and repeat.
            The entire story is "Man used to be superstitious and unknowing, then they found explanations and technology and then they all died. The end."

            This fart huffing nonsense of a book with ridiculously high paper quality wouldn't have been published in a million years without Watterson cashing in on his name. After all those years of not cashing in, THIS is his cash-in.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Amazon started showing the inside, which they did not originally, which would have saved me 20 bucks. It's not even a large book in dimensions.

              And of course the price of it is sinking.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >then they found explanations and technology and then they all died. The end."
              its about climate change and our inevitable doom

              make peace with the life you've lived because the end is coming and its coming soon.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its about climate change and our inevitable doom
                It has nothing specifically to do with climate change, there's no dooming actions in this one page of text (half page really). People are fearful of stuff they don't understand. Then they are brought understanding and are "this is a big nothingburger". Then stuff starts disappearing for reasons. Then everyone is gone. And then the Mysteries are at peace again. The end.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It has nothing specifically to do with climate change
                its a metaphor/allegory for climate change, and pretty on the nose about it too

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nta, but it's not necessarily as something as specific as climate change. It's broader; more about the general notion of complacency regarding what we believe we understand and/or control.

                Of course, many would project that specific topic into it, because until a couple years ago that was the foremost topical manifestation of that way of thinking. As of 2023, it's a take-your-pick situation.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >As of 2023, it's a take-your-pick situation.
                As of 2023? 2023 was the hottest year on record, hotter than the last 'hottest year' by nearly half a degree (an actual non-hyperbolic use of the word 'apocalyptic' jump). Climate change is very much the situation at hand.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, just not the only one.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Amazon started showing the inside, which they did not originally, which would have saved me 20 bucks. It's not even a large book in dimensions.

              And of course the price of it is sinking.

              Lmao calm down anon; it's ok if the concept of "picture book" was completely alien to you, but leave the baffling fraud expose to ecelebs who need to believe artists are just labeled content hoses to feel better about themselves.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think there was a couple threads last week but I hadn't read the book yet so I avoided them. Though I assume that the impressions couldn't have been very positive given Cinemaphile's tendency to 1) resent a particular (but wide) set of themes on general principle and 2) assume certain key responsibilities in artists towards their audience regarding consistency in their output.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the book's art was made from various independent bits created by more than one artist
    You mean like AI?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a crummy waste of money and a let-down.
      That's the sum of the book. I get that people want to have a schizo AI Art thread, I'm sure we'll have another thousand this year.

      Bill should have stayed retired.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know the faces were original sculptures, but I wonder whether the hands and other realistic elements were drawn or photographed into the collages?

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