>muh powerful women and gay pirates
series is shit. First few episodes are okey maybe.
>men spending weeks at sea, never seeing women >no gayness
Guys will fuck guys if no other option(see:prisons), which is proven to result in some 'turning gay'
>(see:prisons),
That's almost exclusively an american thing. You are the only ones who get locked up on a 3 day term and 5 minutes in think "golly gee i want man ass"
homosexual BAD
1 in 1000 maybe and only on non English ships. Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship, which is why it's absurd to consider this a faithful adaption. Now the French and Spaniards however.... Hah
>Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship, which is why it's absurd to consider this a faithful adaption.
Uhhh he was kicked out of England the moment he was discovered anon
>Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship
lol sure
Rum sodomy and the lash
No but it's simply not true. There are dozens of nonfiction accounts if maritime life, from deckscrubbers to midshipmen to officers to captain and nobody serving in the British navy tolerated homosexuality. I can suspend my disbelief for some of the deckhands but once you became midshipman nobody will touch your ass on a British ship. Back then things like duty, honor, word of a man meant something.
when you look over historical records, anything they repeatedly, aggressively swear that they never do and despise in all forms is in fact something that was happening constantly. If it wasn't happening, it would never come up.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly. Laws against arson mean that arsons are constantly happening and everyone is a arsonist just waiting for a chance to burn it all down.
Why are you complaining about a show you haven't watched? Black Sails at no point implies the British Navy was tolerant of gays, in fact they do exactly the opposite.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I watched the entire thing. Flint was an lieutenant of the Royal Navy. It's implied he left in disgrace because of his illicit relationship.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Then what are you whining about?
4 months ago
Anonymous
When his lovers wife finds them together that seals his fate as lieutenant in the Navy. Homosexuality was not tolerated or prevalent within the ranks of the British Navy, that's why he has to leave. Flint in the original books has no such backstory because this would never happen, on a British ship and beyond British men were brothers, not lovers. It's undermining history, fiction and masculinity.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>undermining history >by doing exactly what you're saying happened in history
Anon are you confused?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Are we even talking about the same show? His lovers wife knew the whole time and it was his lovers father finding out that did them in.
4 months ago
Anonymous
He obviously hasn't watched it
4 months ago
Anonymous
I watched it. I just remember her walking in on them and then him leaving. I didn't remember that she always knew... It was half a decade ago or something
>undermining history >by doing exactly what you're saying happened in history
Anon are you confused?
Yes I know that's what happened in the fictional story, it makes sense within the story they fabricated. Obviously. It makes no sense within a historical and factual basis because it literally never would have happened. There is zero accounts of a homosexual male having any rank aboard a shipmof the British Navy. Brits weren't gays. Its just that simple. I distinctly remember a few in the Spanish armada and the french ships. Maybe they should make shows about that instead oh but wait barely do anything but punch down on the one race that has no defense league anywhere. Look at this thread I'm trying to say there were no homosexuals in the British navy, I literally have personal ties to this subject, knowing quite a lot about the golden age of sailing especially and I'm getting told off.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Obviously. It makes no sense within a historical and factual basis
But it does, you just said yourself Flint got kicked out of the navy when he was outed as gay
4 months ago
Anonymous
>punch down on the one race that has no defense league anywhere
Actual schizophrenia
4 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but that's the one part he's 100% right about.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Well there's Tommy Robinson (activist) in the UK with his former ties to The English Defence League (EDL) but these orgs basically end up as fronts for criminals to dump and copious amounts of money laundering just to raise funds for anyone to give a fuck. It's sad but evil simply organizes better. I think human nature is inherently self-destructive, noone wants anything good and true. Just look at where we are, what we're doing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Tommy Robinson in no way advocates for White people and he bends over backwards to denounce that sort of thing. He's just some shabbos Zionist who thinks Islam is bad because it's against fags and other liberalisms.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Flint in the book (singular) was a single line in a sentence of flavour text about how scary Long John Silver used to be. You're retarded if you think Flint wasn't masculine and you're doubly retarded if you think it undermines history.
Yes, implied. As in the king himself didn't have to come into the shot and verbatim say Flint you are a gay! Fir audiences to understand why he left.
No, but one of his admirals does say that almost exactly and that if he's still in London by nightfall then he'll be a dead man
that literally whenI stopped watchig the show, they showed the fag part and it blew my mind. it came out of no where.
Out of nowhere? Did we watch the same show? Or perhaps you didn't watch it at all
4 months ago
Anonymous
sorry i dont noticed fag shit , i didnt know.. obviously you probably knew because youre a gay
4 months ago
Anonymous
Alright I'll admit I have a hard time recollecting specific aspects about Flint it just seems too contrived of a storyline about his homosexuality in the British Navy. That's all I'm trying to say, I'm sure you'll find some way to tell me off but the fact remains that it was extremely difficult to gain rank on a ship, you couldn't just suck your way through on a British ship. You had zero incentive and everything to lose with homosexuality, it went against the basic principles of the entire concept of being a British sailor...
4 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if this internal conflict could have been presented as a character moment for Flint where he's trying to live his life while keeping his sexuality secret. The injustice of the fact that he was an exceptional officer that got cast aside because of something that has absolutely no baring on his ability to serve might have contributed to the rage that is his primary drive throughout the show. That would have made for some good television, I wish someone had made a show about that.
Leaving aside the insinuation that being gay means "must suck and fuck the whole ship", your objection doesn't make sense
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the fact remains that it was extremely difficult to gain rank on a ship, you couldn't just suck your way through on a British ship.
When did the show suggest he did?
I beg of you, at least WATCH the show you're crying about before you cry
4 months ago
Anonymous
>implied
lel
also the butsegs happened on land with a landlubber and has nothing to do with homos on ships at sea
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, implied. As in the king himself didn't have to come into the shot and verbatim say Flint you are a gay! Fir audiences to understand why he left.
>Back then things like duty, honor, word of a man meant something
Well that and because the punishment on ships were fucking brutal and if you fell out with everyone you have to share a living space with for months were going to have a bad time if not outright end up having an 'accident'.
It was illegal because it was common enough. Having a law against calling people gays doesn't imply there weren't gay people. Navies are and were notoriously gay.
See
when you look over historical records, anything they repeatedly, aggressively swear that they never do and despise in all forms is in fact something that was happening constantly. If it wasn't happening, it would never come up.
>out of nowhere
My bro, Thomas is mentioned several times before the reveal. And looking back on it I can see the hints that he was more than Flints friend.
>be me >straight out of navy bootcamp >report to a ship on deployment in Seychelles >literally the first night I'm there 2 marines get caught buttfucking in the middle of the night >they get kicked out
100%
On par with the disgusting shitskin whore that magically becomes the most powerful hoe on the island
I hate this show so much its incredible. The target audience since s2 are retarded midwit far left losers.
I haven't watched this show but I know that irl the best position for her would be a high ranking pirate's personal fuckmeat, otherwise she'd be a Tortuga dock whore who doesn't live past her late 20s.
dropped it when they did the bait and switch and shoved gayry in the show for no reason
should have known. I hope every one of those striking hollywood writers is forced to work in a coal mine. Taking characters that somebody else wrote a hundred years ago and then making them queers once the original creator is long dead is lazy, deceptive, cowardly writing and not a proper substitute for a plot.
Eh, I hate fags too, but the show still kept me around.
The REAL bullshit is if the story Silver told about where Flint ended up was true and not just a cover for him shooting him dead on the island
Idk g, lots of us itt are big fans of the show but also massive fag and garden gnome haters. I don't think they dislike the show because they're bigots, I think it's because they have shit taste.
this was some top shelf wench kino, shame about all the fags. can anyone rec some good wench/hooker period piece kinos? i've already watched deadwood multiple times.
>nothing that will top it
This is the first series I have fast forwarded every time strong black slave woman popped up on the screen, because suddenly everyone acted like cucks around her and brought the flow to a screeching halt.
Charles being ex-slave was 1000x more interesting than this 21th century twat teleported straight from her leftie college to lead black men.
Still went out like a badass >keehauled over and over and refused to die >still manages to get up >captain cunt has to mercy kill him since everyone on board knows the shit is wrong
It's basically one bisexual dude, his male lover who only shows up in flashbacks in one season, and some lesbians. It's no gayer than GoT or Spartacus.
You get two or three seasons in and then have it dunked on you that the MC was homosex the entire time, and his entire motivation is that he is homosex.
No, seriously. I ended up dropping the show over this and I am still butthurt about it (lol pun)
It's blown way out of proportion by 4chantards. There's one flashback scene of two dudes kissing and I think that's it. It's a sort of old fashioned gayness, mutual admiration and respect that lead to some bri'ish naval bummy busting.
The naval battles and the scenes with the main pirates are good but the show is dragged down so much by the lesbo strong womyn who run nassau and later on the Black village on the island. The pacing in those two storylines is so fucking slow. Blackbeard felt a bit wasted too, I wish he had more scenes.
Taste this bad could only be found in a black sails thread
>hating on Mark Addy
Screw you and the horse you rode in on
You guys have fallen in love with the boar memes, the show Robert was completely different from the book, he looked all wrong and was not even slightly believable as a great warrior.
It's one of those shows that takes a while before it finds its footing. The first season is pretty slow and unfocused. I thought it got better with s2, the pacing felt tighter, the show looked more professional (bigger budget maybe?) and even the acting felt less stale.
It absolutely got better from the second season onward. I honestly wasn't even sure if I wanted to keep watching after S1 but I did and was greatly rewarded.
It absolutely got better from the second season onward. I honestly wasn't even sure if I wanted to keep watching after S1 but I did and was greatly rewarded.
>gets better in season 2
The first two seasons ware fantastic, sadly they later focused too much on the grand plot instead of the pirating and banter and the ending seemed a bit rushed. Overall a great show.
>it drops after season 2
So just one good season then?
Yeah s2 is an abomination, dropped halfway trough. S1 was decent and had many kino moments with an insane intro, just kino all over the place then suddenly it goes full reddit in s2.
One of the greatest anime betrayals I witnessed. Only that trash westworld can compete with it.
S1+2 and 3+4 are pretty different, so a lot of people prefer one over the other
1+2 is a lot more grounded and has more pirate politics, captain elections, ship maintenance, that kind of thing
its also a lot cheesier, more gratuitous sex/swearing with the Game of Thrones influence all over it
3+4 turns into a much grander pirate epic but leaves behind a lot of the small scale stuff, and it becomes all about the 'higher' concepts of the show
Why are there so many gays in denial on this board? I was jerking off to the thots and whores all season long, and all these anons only go on and on about the buttpirates
>I was jerking off to the thots and whores all season long
because we're not jerk-off addicted coomers
i like a decent story in storytelling media, as do most people
The first two seasons ware fantastic, sadly they later focused too much on the grand plot instead of the pirating and banter and the ending seemed a bit rushed. Overall a great show.
Are there any other pirate shows or films worth watching? I fell in love with the setting after playing AC Black Flag. There's a show called Crossbones with John Malkovich. Anyone seen it?
>There's a show called Crossbones with John Malkovich. Anyone seen it?
I watched it.
Malkovich is decent but the character doesn't feel like Blackbeard (doesn't even have a beard). It's just Malkovich playing the same character he always does but in the 18th century.
The hero is very uncharismatic too. And the show ends on a cliffhanger and was cancelled after one season.
Not worth watching imo.
Treasure Island with a young Christian Bale is decent. Not amazing but fun.
>Malkovich is decent but the character doesn't feel like Blackbeard (doesn't even have a beard). It's just Malkovich playing the same character he always does but in the 18th century
lol based malkovich
The dialogue in this show, especially in the latter seasons, was on a whole other level compared to everything else airing at the time.
Toby Stephens really nailed it. I can't believe he didn't become an a-lister off the back of this show.
>I can't believe he didn't become an a-lister off the back of this show.
He is, in theatre where he spends most of his time
The guy is Maggie Smith's son, I'm sure he doesn't care that much about TV
>easily one of the best TV shows ever made >watched by basically nobody >impossible to discuss on /misc/
Black Sails has gotta be the most patrician piece of media ever created
Kek. Yeah for a low t cuck loser. It has its moments until it devolves into full goyslop gayry and female power fantasy, completely ignoring logic, history, reason.
It's sad that every Black Sails thread gets derailed by poltourists who haven't seen it but want to complain about homosex and black people. The people who made threads about it and watched it as it aired where largely positive towards it.
My favorite are the people who say a whore becoming mildly powerful is historically inaccurate. Always the people with 0 grasp of real history that get most outraged by it
Ending up in charge of business on some bumfuck Caribbean island is nothing compared to some of the most powerful whores/concubines in irl history
>the most perfect series ive ever seen
If you dont think the ending was peak retardation then iunno what to tell you anon
>all flint ever wanted was to find his gayboy and live happily ever after >treasure? what treasure lmao >most scheming bitch in the show gets away with everything because she was seemingly randomly chosen as the "women are strong!" plug, not punished for anything she did while all the main characters suffer badly >white girl doesnt even a slither of the repercussion she should and ends with "im sad lmao"
The show was kino until the last season. The obvious 4chanitics shoehorning was just too fucking obvious.
Usually the show was pretty thorough in terms of story follow ups, which made it so great. But then all of a sudden its just sloppy as shit, and coincidentally always regarding the female characters.
9/10 show until the final episodes when it dropped to 6/10 normie slop. The writers even got called out on it, and all they did was shit on the viewers pretty much as stupidly as people ITT do.
You obviously have not been in the live threads during the final episodes.
>The writers even got called out on it, and all they did was shit on the viewers pretty much as stupidly as people ITT do.
that was hilarious tho
you could see how much they feared the twitter crowd at the time, trying way too hard to appeal to them
I've also heard that the reason for the ending was a rewrite that got campaigned for by Nina Heyns(the only female member amongst a fairly long list of producers). apparently she put 'her foot down' which led to the finale being what it is
my guess is they originally planned to have the black bitch hanged
yea its so odd. everything was peak until the ending.
maybe its just the usual ending fumble we're used to in shows but it just seems so uncharacteristic for the show
the ending actually made me upset
first time this ever happened
i was just looking at the screen going "what? you gotta be kidding me!"
bafflingly stupid
Silver lied jackass. He killed Flint and lied to his negress's face about it. >entire series is about the power of stories, to the point that we have at least 2 speeches about how the pirates plan to use them to their advantage >last shot on the island has a gunshot in the background >we never see Flint leave the island, all we have is the word of a man that had become a ruthless bastard by the end >'hurr he's alive'
No, he fucking isnt. Flint died. Silver killed him.
the women in this show were truly unbearable, past skylar white tier. also the plot became retarded pretty quickly, i was surprised they didn't have anything else to fall back on when they started doing things like that long haired guy becoming a swamp man or some shit.
the gay shit is retconned right at the end, the whole time they do the flashbacks it's just platonic male friendship
the strong women are btfo several times and the males come to their aid
Black village made by slaves who escaped made sense >but muh strong black woman
her mate and founder of the village died so it's only logical she becomes leader since they were all kissing his ass prior to finding out he died
that being said, long john silver was the biggest gay of the show >muh leg >muh flint >muh sheboon >muh me
>her mate and founder of the village died so it's only logical she becomes leader
No it´s fucking not. it´s the same retarded argument people use about that bitch in last of us show.
like I said, everyone owed their life to the guy so the most logical choice was to put the closest to him in charge
if it were a random male/female, there would be conflict
they respected him so much that she would be literally invincible there and everyone would obey at the end of the day
His best moment was in the last season when he's talking to that girl who asked him about Nassau, and he realizes that she doesnt care about his friends and the lives they lived, only seeing them (and him) as paper cutouts in a story to be applauded and vilified in turn. >"And Jack Rackham? Did you know him too?" >"Yeah...knew him too."
>All this will be for nothing? We will have been for nothing? Defined by their histories, distorted to fit into their narrative... until all that is left of us are the monsters in the stories they tell their children.
Flint saw it all coming
bro it's Power Rangers; sex and violent pirates edition.
I liked it but it wasn't exactly mature, compelling, or something that makes you think. It's embarrassing to watch
So we can't use woke, we can't use SJW, we can't use PC, we can't use libtard, we can't use cultural marxists...I guess I'll just call you a moron then
I got tired of it in the last season and stopped watching. In general there were too many "women conspiring with annoying accents" scenes throughout the show. My patience for shows with so much filler has dropped. This didn't need ten episodes each season or whatever.
true. but they also kept fucking rape slaves and if they raided a slaver they would just throw the morons into the ocean and keep the boat and supplies
I didn't drop it because of the homosexuality, I dropped it for the gayry
I can accept him being a homo, but he was a complete gay, and I couldn't get over his gay "motivation", that's what ruined it to me, it was a complete far fetched way of advancing the main plot
Yes, you'll start out hating john Silver but love him as he steadily transforms into Capt. Silver the pirate they all fear. >crushing a mans skull in with his peg leg while he makes a speech
Sadly his whole thing falls to shit as some point after the series.
At least historically >Jack and most of the crew get deadass drunk >caught by the royal navy >only Anne Bonnie, Mary Read, the cook, and maybe a few more were sober enough to fight >entire crew hung except the 2 women who may or may not have been hung as well
It's not just Jack, basically everything goes to shit right after the show ends
Woodes Rogers returns to become governor of Nassau again, Silver winds up chasing Flints treasure just as Flint said he would, the British Empire basically wins at history for a couple more centuries and the New World ended up being basically the same old shit as the old
I don't know what the fuck you fags are on about. Flint wasn't even gay. He was bi only for that English dude because the guy's wife had a threesome with him and the guy. He spent most of the time fucking this cuck's wife and occasionally fucking him too and only because both him and his wife were charming. The guy was a literal cult leader wannabe who sweet talked Flint's ass off. He at no point fucks or shows any romantic or sexual interest in other males but consistently fucks the guy's wife until she dies.
>One of the only times in tv/film history where a character being intimate with another man irrefutably elevates that character and his story in such a way that it's almost essential to the plot >Retards get filtered because they can't tolerate even the slightest whiff of gayry
It's amazing how much of a litmus test this show is for if you're actually capable of appreciating kino or if you're unironically the incel autist trannies rag about on Twitter. Makes me laugh everytime knowing there's a handful of you guys out there
Fuck off chud gay. The 50 girl boss moments, Mary sue trash, unbearable fake accent ugly whores commanding everyone around and the le dual wielding skeletor ugly cunt were already putting me on 99%, it's just that the gayry and lame ass season 2 was the last drop in the bucket.
It's concentrated diarrhea for far left midwits and coomers.
>girlboss
There are like 4 women in the entire show, two end up dead, one begins and ends the show as Jack's murderhobo sidekick and only one ends up in charge of anything
You fags are so fucking sensitive
>You fags are so fucking sensitive
Nah, it's just trash sprinkled over a talented actor (flint) and some Kino pirate moments. I hate trash and my time was better spent on anything but butt pirates.
>old rich english lady >spends final years as hobo in the country side >gets shot in the head with hand canon >corpses paraded at trial of former lover, on display for hours >her husband was a cuck who convinced her to convince her boyfriend to let him (the husband) give him a blowie
>old african queen >she was kangs, ruled island of slaves with the money her kang husband got from working as a maid >I think she ends up with a dead husband and a daughter that takes her place
>young rich english lady >strong independent beautiful woman with a moron manservant. She fucks the big bad pirates on her terms and she rides she doesn't get fucked >gets arrested and spends long time in jail >friends spend her money being kings and queens and fucking and drinking >she gets fucked by fancy strong rough prince charming english captain and becomes a submissive pet for him >dies at hands of random soldier in burning cabin while pregnant >last moments are bleeding out of her belly knowing her baby has been stabbed inside her womb
>young african queen >should have killed everyone but Long John Silver's Long John White wins her over and she becomes submissive for the BWC. >frees all his mates and helps him be kang
>hobo rat lady with daggers >licks mixed girl's pussy and lets her soulmate fuck both of them in many nights of orgies >spends a season being a useless hobo due to rape and thinking boyfriend wants to fuck her girlfriend more than he wants to fuck her >tries toe scape with the money and just chill with boyfriend but boyfriend wants to be cool like the other kids and prove to the world he is a real grove street OG >saves his ass a couple of times and then cries cuz she's mentally vulnerable and just wants to retire and have threesomes till she dies
>mixed race french hottie >opportunistic whore who is really fucking hot and has great tits. >rules the island her young rich english lady left her until the men decide she's done ruling
If it was diarrhea and you were smart you wouldn't have gotten to the end. There's a few extra bits I suppose but I ran out of characters.
>Tries to be girl boss and goes to young rich english girl's grandparents >old nana tells her how really women are always the ones in charge >give her a story about some dog or rabbit or some shit the men kept fighting over but she killed it and thus solved the fighting >convinces former whore that she can be queen if she kills main characters >some other shit happens nobody remembers because who cares she was only there for the great nude scenes and hot accent
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Anonymous
Yeah but Im capable of learning so I don't read this. Atleast we agree it was shit.
>You fags are so fucking sensitive
Nah, it's just trash sprinkled over a talented actor (flint) and some Kino pirate moments. I hate trash and my time was better spent on anything but butt pirates.
[...] >'chud' >'NO YOU!'
NO, YOU! chud
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Trannies?
Like I said, litmus test for if you're actually capable of enjoying film or literally just the far right equivalent of a chud. The quality of the work is irrelevant- to you people a good work is defined as how many morons/trannies/women there are/aren't in the work. Probably because you're projecting your own emotional issues onto everything.
>The quality of the work is irrelevant- to you people a good work is defined as how many morons/trannies/women there are/aren't in the work
Stop projecting.
The problem with the moron chud gays factor is exactly because it detracts from tye quality.
Maxine's actress couldn't fucking act and her accent was fake as shit. Her turn as shadow ruler of Nassau was crappy writing and it made no sense and it only exists bc they wanted a strong womyn if color
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Like I said, litmus test for if you're actually capable of enjoying film or literally just the far right equivalent of a chud. The quality of the work is irrelevant- to you people a good work is defined as how many morons/trannies/women there are/aren't in the work. Probably because you're projecting your own emotional issues onto everything.
Good posts. It feels like there aren't many kino appreciators left on this board. I'm so sick of people judging movies through a political lens.
>>One of the only times in tv/film history where a character being intimate with another man irrefutably elevates that character and his story in such a way that it's almost essential to the plot
so fucking true
man I still remember rewatching this scene in season 1 after the gay reveal in the later seasons
?t=100
absolutely great acting from the flint actor
and these mfs throw this scene in season 1 where there was zero sign of flint's fägäri
when the context takes it to whole nother level
I remember one discovery did once about Blackbeard >married a bitch and tried to go straight >got tired of the straight and narrow >wife became a bitch >gave his wife to the crew to get the band back together
To be fair sea faring is pretty fucking boring. Remember that episode where they're just drifting around with no wind debating who gets to drink the eel blood? Fuck me that was impossible. Sure the fights are interesting but most of the time seafaring seems to be fuck all staring at fuck all talking about fuck all.
Yeah thats about it. Its hard, boring work and then you get scurvy.
Spending weeks out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely nothing in any direction but empty sea would be enough to drive most people insane. Makes a lot of 'sailor' culture make a lot more sense in hidsight. All the drinking, the shanties, the superstition was probably just to give themselves something to occupy their time when they weren't working.
Plenty of boat scenes can be kino. Hornblower, terror, other series is full of it. Thats just down to Black Sails writing. Id opt for boring seafaring scenes rather than the same people sat about in that whorehouse chatting to that foreign sounding mary sue bitch
They still have lots of kino scenes mate, lots of them. I just don't see how they could have added even more boat scenes. What would have been the point. How many interesting dialogues can you have with the same people on the boat? How many news about goat fucking and tiny blurry sails through a looking glass followed by
>She's gaining speed captain she'll be about us in 8 hours >aye, drop the rope and measure how fast it drops. That's how we'll know how fast we're going >aye, captain we've dropped the rope, she'll still gaining speed, what now >drop the rope again, perhaps we are now going fast >aye captain, we've dropped the rope again, it seems we are going at the same speed as 4 hours ago, what now >drop it again lads >aye captain
I get what you're saying, and there are kino scenes, but most of sea faring is like staring at a download window in 2008.
>I stopped watching a show I liked because of some minor reason that can be easily ignored
This seems incredibly stupid, and I think people only say shit like this and not actually believe it
It's a strange show. Any scenes in the boats and with the male cast a usually fantastic and an scenes in land and with the female cast was horrible
Maxine was a blight everytime she was onscreen
Elenore was alright, but boring
Anne Bonny could've been good, but Maxine ruined her
Also, the gayness.
Yes, it does ruin the show. I could maybe stomach it if it was just backstory and Flint was a bisexual weirdo whose only real love was England and later piracy, but no, getting buttfucked is actually his sole reason for exiting and doing what he did
Why did he killed Gates? His longtime friend? Why, for buttfucking memories ofc
Also RIP, Ray Stevenson THIRTEEN
I rarely get a chance to bring this up.
If you like the opening song check out the Hurdy Gurdy artist Guilhem Desq. Visions is a great album and his follow Storm up is good to.
Both. And the answer to the first question is because no one takes women seriously, so women is power would need to constantly struggle in their role
Eleanor starts in a rough position, her authority derived more from her father's position than herself, so that's good, but the way the show develops, specially with Maxine taking charge is just patiently ridiculous and defies credibility
Yes we can buy Eleanor then her struggle to keep power after her dad died, they had credible established her power by showing she still (on the surface) controlled the trade
>Maxine taking charge is just patiently ridiculous and defies credibility
People keep saying this, but she really didn't do anything that unbelievable >Started a whore >Aligned herself with Jack+Anne when they acquired the brothel >Ended up in charge of the brothel business because she understood the business and the other whores trusted her more than Jack >During a period of instability after Eleanor was arrested she bought up all the other local businesses for pennies since everyone was fleeing >Once Rogers arrives she switches sides and aligns with him instead >Basically only ends up in good standing on Nassau after Rogers is ousted because of a good relationship with Jack+Anne
Literally nothing here is far-fetched, she basically just attached herself to whoever was currently in charge
up in charge of the brothel business because she understood the business and the other whores trusted her more than Jack
a period of instability after Eleanor was arrested she bought up all the other local businesses for pennies since everyone was fleeing
This part.
You don't rise from owner of a brothel to ruler of the economy of a pirate island
Guthrie had real authority and his daughter was raised to at least understand trading, shipping routes, market prices, all the little specificities of snuggling
Maxine was whore who now owns a brothel and later every single businesses in the Island, which she can run with perfect efficiency and, oh yeah, she understands smuggling now too
Come the fuck on
>which she can run with perfect efficiency and, oh yeah, she understands smuggling now too
But she doesn't, watch the damn show.
Max DOESN'T run the trading/fencing of shit like Eleanor did, she explicitly says as much that she has no interest in it. The period between Max taking a controlling interest in most of the street and Rogers arriving was the point where they were sat on a mountain of Spanish gold.
>But she doesn't, watch the damn show.
Read what I fucking wrote moron, how does she run all those business simultaneously? Why no competitor comes up?
It's outlandish whether you want to admit or not
>woman takes European Union leadership >war breaks out on the border
>woman takes control of British Empire >it breaks apart and they all declare independence, the colonies invade your country in your lifetime and you get to see Londonistan happen
>woman becomes vice president >markets collapse, wars start, the dollar is replaced, inflation soars, division explodes
>woman becomes chancellor of Germany >immigrants flood the country and the EU, Germany becomes dependent on Russian gas, several economic crashes happen during your watch, Russia invades Crimea and Donbass during your watch, one of the big members of your Union leaves
No, they weren't. Look at what was left after them. Lizzy is beloved by all and everyone was sad when she died. But look at her empire. She inherited the british empire and left the world where it's just a tiny country on a tiny island, with Scotland and Ireland about to leave. Not only did they lose the empire, they are about to lose Scotland and Ireland. How can you look at that and think
>pretty good
Not to mention the decimation of British culture and identity. A royal marrying a half moron too. That is not pretty good. That is complete failure.
Do not ask if she did it, ask if it happened during her rule.
>Do you honestly think Hitler ordered each and every camp to execute prisoners? There is no proof of such an order
That's what you sound like.
Same for the other women I gave as an example. You could sing Merkels praise for days and not run out of praise. But what happened to the Union during her rule and what happens to europe (union and beyond) now under Ursula? How many white men, women and children are dying? Of course you can clearly prove that it's not her fault Russia invaded yet... it happened during her watch.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>her rule.
I'm asking do you genuinely believe the English monarchy is ruling the country like its still the middle ages?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>merkel >absolute power
the fuck you on about mate? x2
>By absolute power let's assume the highest level of power achievable in the society they live in
No, that's moronic. >this person who is a figurehead that was a woman had so much power
vs. >this woman who had actual power that did great things is totally equivalent
By absolute power let's assume the highest level of power achievable in the society they live in. Elizabeth had it. She may not have been a totalitarian Caesar but she was a Caesar nonetheless.
>her rule.
I'm asking do you genuinely believe the English monarchy is ruling the country like its still the middle ages?
Of course not, not anymore after her. She did inherit an Empire though and the royals sure as fucked ruled then.
4 months ago
Anonymous
For a foreigner who knows literally nothing at all about the UK you sure seem very invested in it
4 months ago
Anonymous
Just an example. Perhaps I don't know as much as a native but I wouldn't say "literally" nothing. I wouldn't be able to name your failure of a queen if I did.
>merkel >absolute power
the fuck you on about mate? x2
>By absolute power let's assume the highest level of power achievable in the society they live in
No, that's moronic. >this person who is a figurehead that was a woman had so much power
vs. >this woman who had actual power that did great things is totally equivalent
Again, absolute power does not mean total power in this case. It means highest achievable position in the society they live in. Merkel held absolute power in her society as in the highest achievable political position.
>No, that's moronic.
Explain why. There's very few people in all of history who held absolute power in the sense of absolute dictatorial, totalitarian power. We would not have a conversation if we narrowed it down to that.
>figurehead
Are you implying Merkel was a figurehead?
>>this woman who had actual power that did great things is totally equivalent
Give examples
4 months ago
Anonymous
Since you want to stick to just England. >who is Elizabeth I?
4 months ago
Anonymous
The bitch who ripped England from Catholicism? Is that your great hero, the woman who started the descent into degeneracy
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the christcuck shows his butthurt form
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but I wouldn't say "literally" nothing
I would. You seem genuinely convinced that the Queen had any actual authority or political power.
She was there to wear funny hats and give speeches at Christmas, the ONLY reason she stuck around at all is because she was old enough that most people had good will towards her. Now she's dead the monarchy has a decade left tops before we gut it altogether.
Heard russians executed people freely on your own soil and that scotland had a referendum and is asking for another one. The state of the united kingdom is the only laughing matter here. Your female king shattered Brittania to a shitty invaded country filled with brown fucks and gingers who want independence.
>13 years of Conservative rule is the Queens fault
4 months ago
Anonymous
>13 years of Conservative rule is the Queens fault
Perhaps if she had used her authority or not been such a fucking woman and spoken out against those conservatives, her country would not have been where it is today. Instead she let her nephew marry a moron and a funny rat looking fuck rip the UK from Europe. Sure, she may not have had the legal means to stop it, but had she just had the courage to speak. But that's too much to ask of a woman. She was liked, that's all that mattered. Look at the funny hats she wore!
>the christcuck shows his butthurt form
I expected nothing more from the people who allowed muslims to invade and rape freely.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I expected nothing more from the people who allowed muslims to invade and rape freely.
You're not doing anything to stop it. Effeminate gay.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It is not my country, it's not my job to stop your women from being raped, gay.
>Perhaps if she had used her authority
What authority?
Weird how you people care more about Harry marrying a mulatto than you do about Andrew raping kids
That is another proof of her weakness, being unable to maintain control over the family she was the matriarch of. Disgraceful. Ask yourself what authority every time you touch a coin or paper with her name on it. The biggest corporations in the world would kill for that level of authority and advertisement. When brexit was being debated all looked to the queen but she had no opinion on the matter. Brexit was voted, the scots got riled up, and all she did was print new money with her face on it, to remind everyone that she was still queen of a UNITED Kingdom. I guess she has authority to do that, but not authority to say
>i think it's a bad idea
That's all she had to say, and it wouldn't have happened. But she liked being liked, as women do, and she was a bit meek. So the bitch stood and witnessed her country loose even more ground on the world stage. A great queen indeed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You even TYPE like a fatso, it’s quite impressive.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I guess calling me fat is easier than proving me wrong. Surprised you didn't go with gay, you must be a gay yourself or something.
Who said it was my women? You're just fucking dumb that doesn't understand modern leaders vs actual rulers from yore.
Of course I understand and there are excuses for all leaders. Of course Elizabeth did not have the authority of Richard but she didn't need it to fix major issues in her country.
She did have the authority to banish her nephew and her pedo son. She did have the authority to say she thought brexit was a bad idea and thus swing enough votes to stop it. She had authority to do many things, she did none or did the wrong moves.
? I'm not pro-monarchy, those fuckers need to be gone ASAP and thankfully they probably will be
But giving them the blame for the state of the country is just deflecting blame away from the people who have actually ruined us
>those fuckers need to be gone ASAP and thankfully they probably will be
I agree with you. The more time passes the less likely it is for that happen.
>But giving them the blame for the state of the country is just deflecting blame away from the people who have actually ruined us
No man or woman holds single responsibility for the state of the word. She does hold a great deal of responsibility but obviously there is a great deal of retardation in British politics, as in all other nations. The conversation started from an idiot who said
>things got shitty when women got in power and that's bad writing
And I argued that when women are in power things tend to get significantly shittier
4 months ago
Anonymous
>modern shit
mate don't @ me again.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you're @ me mate
By your logic Queen Victoria was one of the greatest leaders in human history
No
4 months ago
Anonymous
By your logic Queen Victoria was one of the greatest leaders in human history
4 months ago
Anonymous
I like how you didn’t deny it, you salad dodging fuck
4 months ago
Anonymous
Deny what you woman loving cock muncher?
4 months ago
Anonymous
That you’re a ham planet. Fat fuck.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Who said it was my women? You're just fucking dumb that doesn't understand modern leaders vs actual rulers from yore.
4 months ago
Anonymous
? I'm not pro-monarchy, those fuckers need to be gone ASAP and thankfully they probably will be
But giving them the blame for the state of the country is just deflecting blame away from the people who have actually ruined us
4 months ago
Anonymous
> That is another proof of her weakness, being unable to maintain control over the family she was the matriarch of
Given Andrew was in the WORLD’S press gunsights and it was kept relatively quiet with minimal fallout youre undermining your own point. The Firm did a pretty good job of damage control there, that’s not through lack of power.
The rest of your drivel shows you don’t know squat about the separation of powers. The monarch isn’t supposed to weigh in on political matters. People can blame our government for anything they want but the bottom line is the country keeps voting them in heavily implying the opposition are worse.
Anyway, talk about Black Sails or fuck off you fat cunt
4 months ago
Anonymous
Good brainwashed little brit, suck that royal clit.
I did talk about black sails you brown fuck, I love the show.
That you’re a ham planet. Fat fuck.
I don't have to deny it, obesity is rare in the balkans, unlike GREAT britain. Great means big in your language, right, great lad?
4 months ago
Anonymous
That you’re a ham planet. Fat fuck.
See it died when we stopped calling the royals gays and calling women stupid. Besides, what is more black sails then calling royals gays and women whores?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Fuck royals and (most) elite women. But the women that managed to be in royal positions were pretty great.
>inb4 the fag tries to say modern royals had any power
4 months ago
Anonymous
>But the women that managed to be in royal positions were pretty great.
you the type of gay that tries to stroke the clit hoping for a facial, aren't you?
4 months ago
Anonymous
What in the fuck are you talking about degenerate
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Perhaps if she had used her authority
What authority?
Weird how you people care more about Harry marrying a mulatto than you do about Andrew raping kids
Heard russians executed people freely on your own soil and that scotland had a referendum and is asking for another one. The state of the united kingdom is the only laughing matter here. Your female king shattered Brittania to a shitty invaded country filled with brown fucks and gingers who want independence.
These two were phenomenal
Silver specially. An actor with thst much natural charm and charisma is a finding
How come I've never seen then in anything else?
I just watched on youtube Blackbeard and some Charles Vane and Flint moments. I think that's more than enough given how season 2 was boring as fuck. Women ruin erverything
I did not read this thread, and I will not stay to read the replies, but when I tried to watch the show that brown bitch with the fake french accent was the most annoying character I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on television
I 100% dropped the show when the lesbian love triangle entered onto the boat.
gay. pirates.
lmao
bussy is better than pussy, is the law of the sea
>men spending weeks at sea, never seeing women
>no gayness
Guys will fuck guys if no other option(see:prisons), which is proven to result in some 'turning gay'
>(see:prisons),
That's almost exclusively an american thing. You are the only ones who get locked up on a 3 day term and 5 minutes in think "golly gee i want man ass"
homosexual BAD
>That's almost exclusively an american thing
Explain Russians then
I do not believe they can be explained. You have a fair point.
Where abouts in the world do you think the Caribbean is?
1 in 1000 maybe and only on non English ships. Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship, which is why it's absurd to consider this a faithful adaption. Now the French and Spaniards however.... Hah
>Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship, which is why it's absurd to consider this a faithful adaption.
Uhhh he was kicked out of England the moment he was discovered anon
No but it's simply not true. There are dozens of nonfiction accounts if maritime life, from deckscrubbers to midshipmen to officers to captain and nobody serving in the British navy tolerated homosexuality. I can suspend my disbelief for some of the deckhands but once you became midshipman nobody will touch your ass on a British ship. Back then things like duty, honor, word of a man meant something.
MISTER HICKEY YOU ARE RUINING OUR HONORABLE DUTY WITH YOUR GAY ANTICS
Listen I get it though, they need viewership and ESG scores. I guarantee you more than half the audience were obese landwhale women.
>tfw the cabin boy gets old
when you look over historical records, anything they repeatedly, aggressively swear that they never do and despise in all forms is in fact something that was happening constantly. If it wasn't happening, it would never come up.
Exactly. Laws against arson mean that arsons are constantly happening and everyone is a arsonist just waiting for a chance to burn it all down.
when it comes to any kind of moral panic, yes
Why are you complaining about a show you haven't watched? Black Sails at no point implies the British Navy was tolerant of gays, in fact they do exactly the opposite.
I watched the entire thing. Flint was an lieutenant of the Royal Navy. It's implied he left in disgrace because of his illicit relationship.
Then what are you whining about?
When his lovers wife finds them together that seals his fate as lieutenant in the Navy. Homosexuality was not tolerated or prevalent within the ranks of the British Navy, that's why he has to leave. Flint in the original books has no such backstory because this would never happen, on a British ship and beyond British men were brothers, not lovers. It's undermining history, fiction and masculinity.
>undermining history
>by doing exactly what you're saying happened in history
Anon are you confused?
Are we even talking about the same show? His lovers wife knew the whole time and it was his lovers father finding out that did them in.
He obviously hasn't watched it
I watched it. I just remember her walking in on them and then him leaving. I didn't remember that she always knew... It was half a decade ago or something
Yes I know that's what happened in the fictional story, it makes sense within the story they fabricated. Obviously. It makes no sense within a historical and factual basis because it literally never would have happened. There is zero accounts of a homosexual male having any rank aboard a shipmof the British Navy. Brits weren't gays. Its just that simple. I distinctly remember a few in the Spanish armada and the french ships. Maybe they should make shows about that instead oh but wait barely do anything but punch down on the one race that has no defense league anywhere. Look at this thread I'm trying to say there were no homosexuals in the British navy, I literally have personal ties to this subject, knowing quite a lot about the golden age of sailing especially and I'm getting told off.
>Obviously. It makes no sense within a historical and factual basis
But it does, you just said yourself Flint got kicked out of the navy when he was outed as gay
>punch down on the one race that has no defense league anywhere
Actual schizophrenia
NTA but that's the one part he's 100% right about.
Well there's Tommy Robinson (activist) in the UK with his former ties to The English Defence League (EDL) but these orgs basically end up as fronts for criminals to dump and copious amounts of money laundering just to raise funds for anyone to give a fuck. It's sad but evil simply organizes better. I think human nature is inherently self-destructive, noone wants anything good and true. Just look at where we are, what we're doing.
Tommy Robinson in no way advocates for White people and he bends over backwards to denounce that sort of thing. He's just some shabbos Zionist who thinks Islam is bad because it's against fags and other liberalisms.
Flint in the book (singular) was a single line in a sentence of flavour text about how scary Long John Silver used to be. You're retarded if you think Flint wasn't masculine and you're doubly retarded if you think it undermines history.
No, but one of his admirals does say that almost exactly and that if he's still in London by nightfall then he'll be a dead man
Out of nowhere? Did we watch the same show? Or perhaps you didn't watch it at all
sorry i dont noticed fag shit , i didnt know.. obviously you probably knew because youre a gay
Alright I'll admit I have a hard time recollecting specific aspects about Flint it just seems too contrived of a storyline about his homosexuality in the British Navy. That's all I'm trying to say, I'm sure you'll find some way to tell me off but the fact remains that it was extremely difficult to gain rank on a ship, you couldn't just suck your way through on a British ship. You had zero incentive and everything to lose with homosexuality, it went against the basic principles of the entire concept of being a British sailor...
I wonder if this internal conflict could have been presented as a character moment for Flint where he's trying to live his life while keeping his sexuality secret. The injustice of the fact that he was an exceptional officer that got cast aside because of something that has absolutely no baring on his ability to serve might have contributed to the rage that is his primary drive throughout the show. That would have made for some good television, I wish someone had made a show about that.
Leaving aside the insinuation that being gay means "must suck and fuck the whole ship", your objection doesn't make sense
>the fact remains that it was extremely difficult to gain rank on a ship, you couldn't just suck your way through on a British ship.
When did the show suggest he did?
I beg of you, at least WATCH the show you're crying about before you cry
>implied
lel
also the butsegs happened on land with a landlubber and has nothing to do with homos on ships at sea
Yes, implied. As in the king himself didn't have to come into the shot and verbatim say Flint you are a gay! Fir audiences to understand why he left.
>Back then things like duty, honor, word of a man meant something
Well that and because the punishment on ships were fucking brutal and if you fell out with everyone you have to share a living space with for months were going to have a bad time if not outright end up having an 'accident'.
>Brits had zero tolerance for homosexuality aboard any royal ship
lol sure
Rum sodomy and the lash
People's concept of historial gayry has been intentionally warped to an insane degree.
It was illegal because it was common enough. Having a law against calling people gays doesn't imply there weren't gay people. Navies are and were notoriously gay.
See
that literally whenI stopped watchig the show, they showed the fag part and it blew my mind. it came out of no where.
you should watch the rest. It doesn't really come up that often and Flint is still a badass.
Are you me?
I fucking loved it until they bait-and-switch-hittered Captain Flint.
>out of nowhere
My bro, Thomas is mentioned several times before the reveal. And looking back on it I can see the hints that he was more than Flints friend.
literally butt pirates
just avoid the gay episode and is gonna be ok.
so the whole show?
ummm wow hes not gay he just has sex with men
You think a bunch of hardened men isolated on a ship for months wouldn't ass fuck each other? Same thing as in prison.
>be me
>straight out of navy bootcamp
>report to a ship on deployment in Seychelles
>literally the first night I'm there 2 marines get caught buttfucking in the middle of the night
>they get kicked out
butt pirates
lamo
yeah nothing will ever come close again, just get used to it
>filename
I nearly choked
>tfw no Anne Bonny gf
>le dual wielding *teleports behind you* badass woman
Worst character
>didn't watch the show
le kys
100%
On par with the disgusting shitskin whore that magically becomes the most powerful hoe on the island
I hate this show so much its incredible. The target audience since s2 are retarded midwit far left losers.
Can you imagine the stink on that cunt?
I haven't watched this show but I know that irl the best position for her would be a high ranking pirate's personal fuckmeat, otherwise she'd be a Tortuga dock whore who doesn't live past her late 20s.
>haven't watched the show
>knows tortuga
Hmmmmmmmmm
Everyone knows Caribbean pirates = Tortuga. It was in the Disney movies and Assassin's Creed 4. It's not exactly obscure
Was his lover really still alive on the plantation? Did Flint himself even survive?
no
no
>Did Flint himself even survive?
You do realize this is a prequel to Treasure Island? Flint is dead.
You do realise this isn't the first prequel and they contradict each other
I think Silver made it up. He killed Flint on the island. We don't see him die, but we see the birds startled and the other pirates go to see.
I should watch it. I really like Treasure Island.
dropped it when they did the bait and switch and shoved gayry in the show for no reason
should have known. I hope every one of those striking hollywood writers is forced to work in a coal mine. Taking characters that somebody else wrote a hundred years ago and then making them queers once the original creator is long dead is lazy, deceptive, cowardly writing and not a proper substitute for a plot.
This show really filters 4chancucks lmao
Eh, I hate fags too, but the show still kept me around.
The REAL bullshit is if the story Silver told about where Flint ended up was true and not just a cover for him shooting him dead on the island
It's kind of funny that they'd rather seethe than enjoy a great show.
Fuckin' depressed bigots, what can you expect
Idk g, lots of us itt are big fans of the show but also massive fag and garden gnome haters. I don't think they dislike the show because they're bigots, I think it's because they have shit taste.
I think it's because they like massive cocks in their salivating mouths and that may hard to digest
That sounds like something a gay would write.
Woah, such an unexpected answer you predictable latent cock enjoyer
You get called a gay so often you expect it?
Zzzz you dream of veiny cocks hitting your greedy palat
Stop gurgling cum, gay.
What were you expecting, the series starts with a lesbian scene
The writers had the reveal planned before season 1 even filmed
Cosign. but I bailed after IIRC the first or second episode b/c it was obviously no Master and Commander for many reasons.
>muh powerful women and gay pirates
series is shit. First few episodes are okey maybe.
her gang rape was beautiful
God I wanna hear her shitty fake french accent in my ear so bad brehs
Idelle was best girl tho
>Idelle was best girl tho
yep, not even close
show me
this was some top shelf wench kino, shame about all the fags. can anyone rec some good wench/hooker period piece kinos? i've already watched deadwood multiple times.
Spartacus Season 1 > Season 2 > Season 3 >>> Black Sails
switch s2 and 3..
>nothing that will top it
This is the first series I have fast forwarded every time strong black slave woman popped up on the screen, because suddenly everyone acted like cucks around her and brought the flow to a screeching halt.
Charles being ex-slave was 1000x more interesting than this 21th century twat teleported straight from her leftie college to lead black men.
She's up there with Dexter's potty mouth sister as one of the most unbearable TV characters
She was actually mentioned in the original book as Silver's wife. Though not as a princess, just an African woman.
I am still fucking angry
Holy fucking shit, somehow I did not recognize him until now.
Retribution against the vaxx pushers now.
They did him wrong.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This dude was great in every role he played. RIP
Still went out like a badass
>keehauled over and over and refused to die
>still manages to get up
>captain cunt has to mercy kill him since everyone on board knows the shit is wrong
The keelhauling scene is pure unadulterated boat kino
>punishes Woodes Rogers
He won.
*punished
he and every other character introduced in the last two seasons were shit
>Gay pirates
>Women speaking
Instant pass tbqh chaps.
i quit when they got to pirate sex party island in like episode 3
does it get better
>he quit at s1
God loves you. It only gets worse. And by worse I mean you can't even imagine the depths of lowly trash this series descends into.
You had my interest, but all this talk of homosexuality has turned me off, be honest /misc/ how many gays are there in the show?
It's basically one bisexual dude, his male lover who only shows up in flashbacks in one season, and some lesbians. It's no gayer than GoT or Spartacus.
theres no actual gay sex tho, its homoerotic and platonic. but the mc and some prostitutes are really really gay
the relationship between the two main characters is no diferent than Johnny and gyro in terms of homoerotism
You get two or three seasons in and then have it dunked on you that the MC was homosex the entire time, and his entire motivation is that he is homosex.
No, seriously. I ended up dropping the show over this and I am still butthurt about it (lol pun)
It's blown way out of proportion by 4chantards. There's one flashback scene of two dudes kissing and I think that's it. It's a sort of old fashioned gayness, mutual admiration and respect that lead to some bri'ish naval bummy busting.
>and I think that's it.
You are a dishonest homosexual.
It means the MC's entire motivation is because he is big gay, and not avenging somebody.
Nah he did it for Miranda. Sounds to me like you just see gayness everywhere. Got something you wanna tell us anon?
>Sounds to me
Didn't ask & don't care.
You are a dishonest homosexual.
>4chantards
>lying about facts
Ridin with Biden? Good luck.
Im a giga homophobe but it didnt bother me one bit. Its very well written and not intrusive whatsoever, besides that character is badass as fuck
fag or not, he is the most manly and genocide fag ever showed on the tv
The governor's daughter that runs the town and her dyke moron were fucking insufferable characters.
Quit second season because it got boring and then teh cherry on top that gay shit
1st season was kino though
The naval battles and the scenes with the main pirates are good but the show is dragged down so much by the lesbo strong womyn who run nassau and later on the Black village on the island. The pacing in those two storylines is so fucking slow. Blackbeard felt a bit wasted too, I wish he had more scenes.
Now imagine a Blackbeard spinoff with minimal whores and maximum throat-slitting. And then realize we will never get one.
One day I'll make a Blackbeard biopic and it will capture everything that made the character great
Irl he was a pirate for a couple of years and probably didn't even kill anyone
It was way more than a couple of years (around ten I want to say?) and his irl death is kino as fuck.
Ray Stevenson would have been a great Bobby B in Game of Thrones, the guy they got was too short and had no presence.
>hating on Mark Addy
Screw you and the horse you rode in on
>Mark fucking Addy
>no presence
You guys have fallen in love with the boar memes, the show Robert was completely different from the book, he looked all wrong and was not even slightly believable as a great warrior.
Taste this bad could only be found in a black sails thread
I tried getting into this show twice but it just didn't hit right for me.
It's one of those shows that takes a while before it finds its footing. The first season is pretty slow and unfocused. I thought it got better with s2, the pacing felt tighter, the show looked more professional (bigger budget maybe?) and even the acting felt less stale.
It absolutely got better from the second season onward. I honestly wasn't even sure if I wanted to keep watching after S1 but I did and was greatly rewarded.
>and was greatly rewarded.
This bro thinks gay pirates is a "reward"
lmao @ your entire life
>gets better in season 2
>it drops after season 2
So just one good season then?
Yeah s2 is an abomination, dropped halfway trough. S1 was decent and had many kino moments with an insane intro, just kino all over the place then suddenly it goes full reddit in s2.
One of the greatest anime betrayals I witnessed. Only that trash westworld can compete with it.
bump
S1+2 and 3+4 are pretty different, so a lot of people prefer one over the other
1+2 is a lot more grounded and has more pirate politics, captain elections, ship maintenance, that kind of thing
its also a lot cheesier, more gratuitous sex/swearing with the Game of Thrones influence all over it
3+4 turns into a much grander pirate epic but leaves behind a lot of the small scale stuff, and it becomes all about the 'higher' concepts of the show
Well put anon, digits provide confirmation.
I considered watching it until I got spoilered it's about dudes filling up eachother's poopy buttholes.
Mother of kino https://youtu.be/-htiOz2MftU
Why are there so many gays in denial on this board? I was jerking off to the thots and whores all season long, and all these anons only go on and on about the buttpirates
>I was jerking off to the thots and whores all season long
because we're not jerk-off addicted coomers
i like a decent story in storytelling media, as do most people
>i like a decent story in storytelling media, as do most people
you're in the wrong century anon
This. Imagine the loser fuck jerking off to this trash series.
She was cute
pathetic. I mean you can jerk off to whatever you want, but keep it to yourself you homo
The first two seasons ware fantastic, sadly they later focused too much on the grand plot instead of the pirating and banter and the ending seemed a bit rushed. Overall a great show.
Also the costumes ware top notch, I cant stress this enough.
I think they planned for 5 seasons, but had to shorten it after the ship sets burned down during season 4 production
Are there any other pirate shows or films worth watching? I fell in love with the setting after playing AC Black Flag. There's a show called Crossbones with John Malkovich. Anyone seen it?
>There's a show called Crossbones with John Malkovich. Anyone seen it?
I watched it.
Malkovich is decent but the character doesn't feel like Blackbeard (doesn't even have a beard). It's just Malkovich playing the same character he always does but in the 18th century.
The hero is very uncharismatic too. And the show ends on a cliffhanger and was cancelled after one season.
Not worth watching imo.
Treasure Island with a young Christian Bale is decent. Not amazing but fun.
>Malkovich is decent but the character doesn't feel like Blackbeard (doesn't even have a beard). It's just Malkovich playing the same character he always does but in the 18th century
lol based malkovich
>mocks on every scene of got, spartacus, rome, borgia and etc
This is how you write a shakesperean tragedy
The dialogue in this show, especially in the latter seasons, was on a whole other level compared to everything else airing at the time.
Toby Stephens really nailed it. I can't believe he didn't become an a-lister off the back of this show.
>I can't believe he didn't become an a-lister off the back of this show.
He is, in theatre where he spends most of his time
The guy is Maggie Smith's son, I'm sure he doesn't care that much about TV
>easily one of the best TV shows ever made
>watched by basically nobody
>impossible to discuss on /misc/
Black Sails has gotta be the most patrician piece of media ever created
Kek. Yeah for a low t cuck loser. It has its moments until it devolves into full goyslop gayry and female power fantasy, completely ignoring logic, history, reason.
>completely ignoring logic, history, reason.
Go ahead and explain this, I dare you
It's sad that every Black Sails thread gets derailed by poltourists who haven't seen it but want to complain about homosex and black people. The people who made threads about it and watched it as it aired where largely positive towards it.
My favorite are the people who say a whore becoming mildly powerful is historically inaccurate. Always the people with 0 grasp of real history that get most outraged by it
Ending up in charge of business on some bumfuck Caribbean island is nothing compared to some of the most powerful whores/concubines in irl history
>the most perfect series ive ever seen
If you dont think the ending was peak retardation then iunno what to tell you anon
>all flint ever wanted was to find his gayboy and live happily ever after
>treasure? what treasure lmao
>most scheming bitch in the show gets away with everything because she was seemingly randomly chosen as the "women are strong!" plug, not punished for anything she did while all the main characters suffer badly
>white girl doesnt even a slither of the repercussion she should and ends with "im sad lmao"
The show was kino until the last season. The obvious 4chanitics shoehorning was just too fucking obvious.
Usually the show was pretty thorough in terms of story follow ups, which made it so great. But then all of a sudden its just sloppy as shit, and coincidentally always regarding the female characters.
9/10 show until the final episodes when it dropped to 6/10 normie slop. The writers even got called out on it, and all they did was shit on the viewers pretty much as stupidly as people ITT do.
You obviously have not been in the live threads during the final episodes.
>The writers even got called out on it, and all they did was shit on the viewers pretty much as stupidly as people ITT do.
that was hilarious tho
you could see how much they feared the twitter crowd at the time, trying way too hard to appeal to them
I've also heard that the reason for the ending was a rewrite that got campaigned for by Nina Heyns(the only female member amongst a fairly long list of producers). apparently she put 'her foot down' which led to the finale being what it is
my guess is they originally planned to have the black bitch hanged
>>all flint ever wanted was to find his gayboy and live happily ever after
? what treasure lmao
Holy shit he actually fell for it lmao
XD
yea its so odd. everything was peak until the ending.
maybe its just the usual ending fumble we're used to in shows but it just seems so uncharacteristic for the show
the ending actually made me upset
first time this ever happened
i was just looking at the screen going "what? you gotta be kidding me!"
bafflingly stupid
>>all flint ever wanted was to find his gayboy and live happily ever after
Anon....
Silver lied jackass. He killed Flint and lied to his negress's face about it.
>entire series is about the power of stories, to the point that we have at least 2 speeches about how the pirates plan to use them to their advantage
>last shot on the island has a gunshot in the background
>we never see Flint leave the island, all we have is the word of a man that had become a ruthless bastard by the end
>'hurr he's alive'
No, he fucking isnt. Flint died. Silver killed him.
Flint dies shortly before the main story of Treasure Island happens. He lived, and then died of sickness.
Yeah I've read the book, but I think he still could have pulled it off and kickstarted the American revolution early.
Pretty sure that's second hand info even in the original book. Flint doesn't actually appear
season 4 was a confusing mess, like who the fuck were these new characters?
the women in this show were truly unbearable, past skylar white tier. also the plot became retarded pretty quickly, i was surprised they didn't have anything else to fall back on when they started doing things like that long haired guy becoming a swamp man or some shit.
Too much stronk woman and gay shit but great otherwise.
the gay shit is retconned right at the end, the whole time they do the flashbacks it's just platonic male friendship
the strong women are btfo several times and the males come to their aid
Black village made by slaves who escaped made sense
>but muh strong black woman
her mate and founder of the village died so it's only logical she becomes leader since they were all kissing his ass prior to finding out he died
that being said, long john silver was the biggest gay of the show
>muh leg
>muh flint
>muh sheboon
>muh me
>her mate and founder of the village died so it's only logical she becomes leader
No it´s fucking not. it´s the same retarded argument people use about that bitch in last of us show.
>it's not logical for a Queen to exist
jesus christ anon
like I said, everyone owed their life to the guy so the most logical choice was to put the closest to him in charge
if it were a random male/female, there would be conflict
they respected him so much that she would be literally invincible there and everyone would obey at the end of the day
*is the best character in your path*
yes
>when trick or treaters come to your door
>In workhouse making- wait for it... textiles
He was so good, even among the rest of that cast
His best moment was in the last season when he's talking to that girl who asked him about Nassau, and he realizes that she doesnt care about his friends and the lives they lived, only seeing them (and him) as paper cutouts in a story to be applauded and vilified in turn.
>"And Jack Rackham? Did you know him too?"
>"Yeah...knew him too."
>All this will be for nothing? We will have been for nothing? Defined by their histories, distorted to fit into their narrative... until all that is left of us are the monsters in the stories they tell their children.
Flint saw it all coming
I still think Flint could have pulled it off. That homo was razor sharp up until the last season and he started relying on Silver too much.
Kek that was so kino. I think she asks if they made soup of Vein or some shit. It's hilarious.
Found it
bro it's Power Rangers; sex and violent pirates edition.
I liked it but it wasn't exactly mature, compelling, or something that makes you think. It's embarrassing to watch
It went woke in the last season but at least it wasn't game of thrones levels of woke.
>woke
Are we facebook now?
So we can't use woke, we can't use SJW, we can't use PC, we can't use libtard, we can't use cultural marxists...I guess I'll just call you a moron then
nooo not the heckin buzzwords!
Go back to preddit, you clearly only like your own buzzwords.
Until then I will call you a woke moron
Yes. Call it anti-White or gayry or whatever. Woke is a boomer obfuscation term
I got tired of it in the last season and stopped watching. In general there were too many "women conspiring with annoying accents" scenes throughout the show. My patience for shows with so much filler has dropped. This didn't need ten episodes each season or whatever.
It is truly remarkable. Shows like this are what the small screen was made for.
I just really want the same team to make a Treasure Island film now
Pirates were notorious for letting women and even black slaves get into positions of power so it's the one historical case where woke shit does work.
>Works in a setting where it's a gang of people violently robbing other people instead of working
true. but they also kept fucking rape slaves and if they raided a slaver they would just throw the morons into the ocean and keep the boat and supplies
>i-is that a black person in the colonial era Americans? AAAAAA I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAANE
Black people didn't exist, except as slaves, until 1980s america.
but they were all slaves or former slaves
I didn't drop it because of the homosexuality, I dropped it for the gayry
I can accept him being a homo, but he was a complete gay, and I couldn't get over his gay "motivation", that's what ruined it to me, it was a complete far fetched way of advancing the main plot
I assumed it's bad because it's on starz. Should I give it a try?
It's actually great. It's seriously underrated.
Multiple people in this thread have called it one of the best shows TV has to offer, what more could you need?
Yes, you'll start out hating john Silver but love him as he steadily transforms into Capt. Silver the pirate they all fear.
>crushing a mans skull in with his peg leg while he makes a speech
FUCKING gayS
Based Jack got the good end. That's all i care for.
Sadly his whole thing falls to shit as some point after the series.
At least historically
>Jack and most of the crew get deadass drunk
>caught by the royal navy
>only Anne Bonnie, Mary Read, the cook, and maybe a few more were sober enough to fight
>entire crew hung except the 2 women who may or may not have been hung as well
It's not just Jack, basically everything goes to shit right after the show ends
Woodes Rogers returns to become governor of Nassau again, Silver winds up chasing Flints treasure just as Flint said he would, the British Empire basically wins at history for a couple more centuries and the New World ended up being basically the same old shit as the old
>the British Empire basically wins
Flint´s whole "war on civilization" plan was retarded and hopeless right from the start
had the most legendary nude scene in television history
>nude scene
And you aren't posting because?
blue board :^)
The most unrealistic thing about it is that there are ANY straight people left on a ship with Billy Bones
Truth
VEIN?
I don't know what the fuck you fags are on about. Flint wasn't even gay. He was bi only for that English dude because the guy's wife had a threesome with him and the guy. He spent most of the time fucking this cuck's wife and occasionally fucking him too and only because both him and his wife were charming. The guy was a literal cult leader wannabe who sweet talked Flint's ass off. He at no point fucks or shows any romantic or sexual interest in other males but consistently fucks the guy's wife until she dies.
>One of the only times in tv/film history where a character being intimate with another man irrefutably elevates that character and his story in such a way that it's almost essential to the plot
>Retards get filtered because they can't tolerate even the slightest whiff of gayry
It's amazing how much of a litmus test this show is for if you're actually capable of appreciating kino or if you're unironically the incel autist trannies rag about on Twitter. Makes me laugh everytime knowing there's a handful of you guys out there
Fuck off chud gay. The 50 girl boss moments, Mary sue trash, unbearable fake accent ugly whores commanding everyone around and the le dual wielding skeletor ugly cunt were already putting me on 99%, it's just that the gayry and lame ass season 2 was the last drop in the bucket.
It's concentrated diarrhea for far left midwits and coomers.
Seething self loathing chud
>girlboss
There are like 4 women in the entire show, two end up dead, one begins and ends the show as Jack's murderhobo sidekick and only one ends up in charge of anything
You fags are so fucking sensitive
>You fags are so fucking sensitive
Nah, it's just trash sprinkled over a talented actor (flint) and some Kino pirate moments. I hate trash and my time was better spent on anything but butt pirates.
>'chud'
>'NO YOU!'
NO, YOU! chud
Look at this gay
Trannies?
Cry more snowflake
>old rich english lady
>spends final years as hobo in the country side
>gets shot in the head with hand canon
>corpses paraded at trial of former lover, on display for hours
>her husband was a cuck who convinced her to convince her boyfriend to let him (the husband) give him a blowie
>old african queen
>she was kangs, ruled island of slaves with the money her kang husband got from working as a maid
>I think she ends up with a dead husband and a daughter that takes her place
>young rich english lady
>strong independent beautiful woman with a moron manservant. She fucks the big bad pirates on her terms and she rides she doesn't get fucked
>gets arrested and spends long time in jail
>friends spend her money being kings and queens and fucking and drinking
>she gets fucked by fancy strong rough prince charming english captain and becomes a submissive pet for him
>dies at hands of random soldier in burning cabin while pregnant
>last moments are bleeding out of her belly knowing her baby has been stabbed inside her womb
>young african queen
>should have killed everyone but Long John Silver's Long John White wins her over and she becomes submissive for the BWC.
>frees all his mates and helps him be kang
>hobo rat lady with daggers
>licks mixed girl's pussy and lets her soulmate fuck both of them in many nights of orgies
>spends a season being a useless hobo due to rape and thinking boyfriend wants to fuck her girlfriend more than he wants to fuck her
>tries toe scape with the money and just chill with boyfriend but boyfriend wants to be cool like the other kids and prove to the world he is a real grove street OG
>saves his ass a couple of times and then cries cuz she's mentally vulnerable and just wants to retire and have threesomes till she dies
>mixed race french hottie
>opportunistic whore who is really fucking hot and has great tits.
>rules the island her young rich english lady left her until the men decide she's done ruling
>opportunistic whore who is really fucking hot and has great tits.
Damn I just read this wall of diarrhea written by a pajeet
If it was diarrhea and you were smart you wouldn't have gotten to the end. There's a few extra bits I suppose but I ran out of characters.
>Tries to be girl boss and goes to young rich english girl's grandparents
>old nana tells her how really women are always the ones in charge
>give her a story about some dog or rabbit or some shit the men kept fighting over but she killed it and thus solved the fighting
>convinces former whore that she can be queen if she kills main characters
>some other shit happens nobody remembers because who cares she was only there for the great nude scenes and hot accent
Yeah but Im capable of learning so I don't read this. Atleast we agree it was shit.
>boyfriend wants to be cool like the other kids and prove to the world he is a real grove street OG
You cant help but like Jack
Like I said, litmus test for if you're actually capable of enjoying film or literally just the far right equivalent of a chud. The quality of the work is irrelevant- to you people a good work is defined as how many morons/trannies/women there are/aren't in the work. Probably because you're projecting your own emotional issues onto everything.
Bro stop grooming me. I'm not gonna tran out.
>The quality of the work is irrelevant- to you people a good work is defined as how many morons/trannies/women there are/aren't in the work
Stop projecting.
The problem with the moron chud gays factor is exactly because it detracts from tye quality.
Maxine's actress couldn't fucking act and her accent was fake as shit. Her turn as shadow ruler of Nassau was crappy writing and it made no sense and it only exists bc they wanted a strong womyn if color
Good posts. It feels like there aren't many kino appreciators left on this board. I'm so sick of people judging movies through a political lens.
>>One of the only times in tv/film history where a character being intimate with another man irrefutably elevates that character and his story in such a way that it's almost essential to the plot
so fucking true
man I still remember rewatching this scene in season 1 after the gay reveal in the later seasons
?t=100
absolutely great acting from the flint actor
and these mfs throw this scene in season 1 where there was zero sign of flint's fägäri
when the context takes it to whole nother level
Buzz cut Flint is the coolest motherfucker of the seven seas
Fuckin' word
every character turning PUNISHED is my favorite trope
I concur my brother
Sexo with Flint
buttpirates
lel
>gay OP enjoys watching gays
Lines up
Any good pirate documentaries?
I remember one discovery did once about Blackbeard
>married a bitch and tried to go straight
>got tired of the straight and narrow
>wife became a bitch
>gave his wife to the crew to get the band back together
It was alright but far too much talking in only a few select rooms.
It was joyous when theyd hit the high seas. There wasnt enough actual seafaring on the show
To be fair sea faring is pretty fucking boring. Remember that episode where they're just drifting around with no wind debating who gets to drink the eel blood? Fuck me that was impossible. Sure the fights are interesting but most of the time seafaring seems to be fuck all staring at fuck all talking about fuck all.
Yeah thats about it. Its hard, boring work and then you get scurvy.
Spending weeks out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely nothing in any direction but empty sea would be enough to drive most people insane. Makes a lot of 'sailor' culture make a lot more sense in hidsight. All the drinking, the shanties, the superstition was probably just to give themselves something to occupy their time when they weren't working.
Plenty of boat scenes can be kino. Hornblower, terror, other series is full of it. Thats just down to Black Sails writing. Id opt for boring seafaring scenes rather than the same people sat about in that whorehouse chatting to that foreign sounding mary sue bitch
They still have lots of kino scenes mate, lots of them. I just don't see how they could have added even more boat scenes. What would have been the point. How many interesting dialogues can you have with the same people on the boat? How many news about goat fucking and tiny blurry sails through a looking glass followed by
>She's gaining speed captain she'll be about us in 8 hours
>aye, drop the rope and measure how fast it drops. That's how we'll know how fast we're going
>aye, captain we've dropped the rope, she'll still gaining speed, what now
>drop the rope again, perhaps we are now going fast
>aye captain, we've dropped the rope again, it seems we are going at the same speed as 4 hours ago, what now
>drop it again lads
>aye captain
I get what you're saying, and there are kino scenes, but most of sea faring is like staring at a download window in 2008.
I see nobody’s posted my slut bitch wife.
I’ve also jerked off innumerable times to the scene where this bitch lets the vicar fuck her raw against a wall and cum inside her in ten seconds flat
>I stopped watching a show I liked because of some minor reason that can be easily ignored
This seems incredibly stupid, and I think people only say shit like this and not actually believe it
It was really good til they went stronk whore and cuck shit
Show died with him, season 2 finale was the best episode of the whole series
he died at the end of S3
Well that's why I said that the season 2 finale is the best
Are you feeling alright anon?
every season finale was excellent television—IMO the series finale was the best
this is true
also true
It's a strange show. Any scenes in the boats and with the male cast a usually fantastic and an scenes in land and with the female cast was horrible
Maxine was a blight everytime she was onscreen
Elenore was alright, but boring
Anne Bonny could've been good, but Maxine ruined her
Also, the gayness.
Yes, it does ruin the show. I could maybe stomach it if it was just backstory and Flint was a bisexual weirdo whose only real love was England and later piracy, but no, getting buttfucked is actually his sole reason for exiting and doing what he did
Why did he killed Gates? His longtime friend? Why, for buttfucking memories ofc
Also RIP, Ray Stevenson
THIRTEEN
RIP, Star Wars actor.
Dunno about that. Punished Woodes was pretty good
>getting buttfucked is actually his sole reason for exiting and doing what he did
Not you CAN'T have a character's backstory inform their actions >:(
What
You can. Just don't make it buttfucking and expect me to take it seriously
https://www.aznude.com/mrskin/hannahnew/blacksails/blacksails-1x1-kennedy-new-hd-01-hd.html
They spelt "cum" wrong
>juan perez
I rarely get a chance to bring this up.
If you like the opening song check out the Hurdy Gurdy artist Guilhem Desq. Visions is a great album and his follow Storm up is good to.
That feel when you have tow pet crackas
Why does the story in any show go to shit once women start to take power, or does women taking power in the first place indicate shitty writing?
Both. And the answer to the first question is because no one takes women seriously, so women is power would need to constantly struggle in their role
Eleanor starts in a rough position, her authority derived more from her father's position than herself, so that's good, but the way the show develops, specially with Maxine taking charge is just patiently ridiculous and defies credibility
Yes we can buy Eleanor then her struggle to keep power after her dad died, they had credible established her power by showing she still (on the surface) controlled the trade
>Maxine taking charge is just patiently ridiculous and defies credibility
People keep saying this, but she really didn't do anything that unbelievable
>Started a whore
>Aligned herself with Jack+Anne when they acquired the brothel
>Ended up in charge of the brothel business because she understood the business and the other whores trusted her more than Jack
>During a period of instability after Eleanor was arrested she bought up all the other local businesses for pennies since everyone was fleeing
>Once Rogers arrives she switches sides and aligns with him instead
>Basically only ends up in good standing on Nassau after Rogers is ousted because of a good relationship with Jack+Anne
Literally nothing here is far-fetched, she basically just attached herself to whoever was currently in charge
up in charge of the brothel business because she understood the business and the other whores trusted her more than Jack
a period of instability after Eleanor was arrested she bought up all the other local businesses for pennies since everyone was fleeing
This part.
You don't rise from owner of a brothel to ruler of the economy of a pirate island
Guthrie had real authority and his daughter was raised to at least understand trading, shipping routes, market prices, all the little specificities of snuggling
Maxine was whore who now owns a brothel and later every single businesses in the Island, which she can run with perfect efficiency and, oh yeah, she understands smuggling now too
Come the fuck on
>which she can run with perfect efficiency and, oh yeah, she understands smuggling now too
But she doesn't, watch the damn show.
Max DOESN'T run the trading/fencing of shit like Eleanor did, she explicitly says as much that she has no interest in it. The period between Max taking a controlling interest in most of the street and Rogers arriving was the point where they were sat on a mountain of Spanish gold.
>But she doesn't, watch the damn show.
Read what I fucking wrote moron, how does she run all those business simultaneously? Why no competitor comes up?
It's outlandish whether you want to admit or not
It indicates superb and realistic writing.
>woman takes European Union leadership
>war breaks out on the border
>woman takes control of British Empire
>it breaks apart and they all declare independence, the colonies invade your country in your lifetime and you get to see Londonistan happen
>woman becomes vice president
>markets collapse, wars start, the dollar is replaced, inflation soars, division explodes
>woman becomes chancellor of Germany
>immigrants flood the country and the EU, Germany becomes dependent on Russian gas, several economic crashes happen during your watch, Russia invades Crimea and Donbass during your watch, one of the big members of your Union leaves
Most actual historical women that had absolute power were actually pretty good.
No, they weren't. Look at what was left after them. Lizzy is beloved by all and everyone was sad when she died. But look at her empire. She inherited the british empire and left the world where it's just a tiny country on a tiny island, with Scotland and Ireland about to leave. Not only did they lose the empire, they are about to lose Scotland and Ireland. How can you look at that and think
>pretty good
Not to mention the decimation of British culture and identity. A royal marrying a half moron too. That is not pretty good. That is complete failure.
Do you honestly think Elizabeth II caused the empire to fall apart? What universe are you from?
Do not ask if she did it, ask if it happened during her rule.
>Do you honestly think Hitler ordered each and every camp to execute prisoners? There is no proof of such an order
That's what you sound like.
Same for the other women I gave as an example. You could sing Merkels praise for days and not run out of praise. But what happened to the Union during her rule and what happens to europe (union and beyond) now under Ursula? How many white men, women and children are dying? Of course you can clearly prove that it's not her fault Russia invaded yet... it happened during her watch.
>her rule.
I'm asking do you genuinely believe the English monarchy is ruling the country like its still the middle ages?
>merkel
>absolute power
the fuck you on about mate? x2
>By absolute power let's assume the highest level of power achievable in the society they live in
No, that's moronic.
>this person who is a figurehead that was a woman had so much power
vs.
>this woman who had actual power that did great things is totally equivalent
>elizabeth II
>absolute power
fuck you on about mate?
By absolute power let's assume the highest level of power achievable in the society they live in. Elizabeth had it. She may not have been a totalitarian Caesar but she was a Caesar nonetheless.
Of course not, not anymore after her. She did inherit an Empire though and the royals sure as fucked ruled then.
For a foreigner who knows literally nothing at all about the UK you sure seem very invested in it
Just an example. Perhaps I don't know as much as a native but I wouldn't say "literally" nothing. I wouldn't be able to name your failure of a queen if I did.
Again, absolute power does not mean total power in this case. It means highest achievable position in the society they live in. Merkel held absolute power in her society as in the highest achievable political position.
>No, that's moronic.
Explain why. There's very few people in all of history who held absolute power in the sense of absolute dictatorial, totalitarian power. We would not have a conversation if we narrowed it down to that.
>figurehead
Are you implying Merkel was a figurehead?
>>this woman who had actual power that did great things is totally equivalent
Give examples
Since you want to stick to just England.
>who is Elizabeth I?
The bitch who ripped England from Catholicism? Is that your great hero, the woman who started the descent into degeneracy
>the christcuck shows his butthurt form
>but I wouldn't say "literally" nothing
I would. You seem genuinely convinced that the Queen had any actual authority or political power.
She was there to wear funny hats and give speeches at Christmas, the ONLY reason she stuck around at all is because she was old enough that most people had good will towards her. Now she's dead the monarchy has a decade left tops before we gut it altogether.
>13 years of Conservative rule is the Queens fault
>13 years of Conservative rule is the Queens fault
Perhaps if she had used her authority or not been such a fucking woman and spoken out against those conservatives, her country would not have been where it is today. Instead she let her nephew marry a moron and a funny rat looking fuck rip the UK from Europe. Sure, she may not have had the legal means to stop it, but had she just had the courage to speak. But that's too much to ask of a woman. She was liked, that's all that mattered. Look at the funny hats she wore!
I expected nothing more from the people who allowed muslims to invade and rape freely.
>I expected nothing more from the people who allowed muslims to invade and rape freely.
You're not doing anything to stop it. Effeminate gay.
It is not my country, it's not my job to stop your women from being raped, gay.
That is another proof of her weakness, being unable to maintain control over the family she was the matriarch of. Disgraceful. Ask yourself what authority every time you touch a coin or paper with her name on it. The biggest corporations in the world would kill for that level of authority and advertisement. When brexit was being debated all looked to the queen but she had no opinion on the matter. Brexit was voted, the scots got riled up, and all she did was print new money with her face on it, to remind everyone that she was still queen of a UNITED Kingdom. I guess she has authority to do that, but not authority to say
>i think it's a bad idea
That's all she had to say, and it wouldn't have happened. But she liked being liked, as women do, and she was a bit meek. So the bitch stood and witnessed her country loose even more ground on the world stage. A great queen indeed.
You even TYPE like a fatso, it’s quite impressive.
I guess calling me fat is easier than proving me wrong. Surprised you didn't go with gay, you must be a gay yourself or something.
Of course I understand and there are excuses for all leaders. Of course Elizabeth did not have the authority of Richard but she didn't need it to fix major issues in her country.
She did have the authority to banish her nephew and her pedo son. She did have the authority to say she thought brexit was a bad idea and thus swing enough votes to stop it. She had authority to do many things, she did none or did the wrong moves.
>those fuckers need to be gone ASAP and thankfully they probably will be
I agree with you. The more time passes the less likely it is for that happen.
>But giving them the blame for the state of the country is just deflecting blame away from the people who have actually ruined us
No man or woman holds single responsibility for the state of the word. She does hold a great deal of responsibility but obviously there is a great deal of retardation in British politics, as in all other nations. The conversation started from an idiot who said
>things got shitty when women got in power and that's bad writing
And I argued that when women are in power things tend to get significantly shittier
>modern shit
mate don't @ me again.
you're @ me mate
No
By your logic Queen Victoria was one of the greatest leaders in human history
I like how you didn’t deny it, you salad dodging fuck
Deny what you woman loving cock muncher?
That you’re a ham planet. Fat fuck.
Who said it was my women? You're just fucking dumb that doesn't understand modern leaders vs actual rulers from yore.
? I'm not pro-monarchy, those fuckers need to be gone ASAP and thankfully they probably will be
But giving them the blame for the state of the country is just deflecting blame away from the people who have actually ruined us
> That is another proof of her weakness, being unable to maintain control over the family she was the matriarch of
Given Andrew was in the WORLD’S press gunsights and it was kept relatively quiet with minimal fallout youre undermining your own point. The Firm did a pretty good job of damage control there, that’s not through lack of power.
The rest of your drivel shows you don’t know squat about the separation of powers. The monarch isn’t supposed to weigh in on political matters. People can blame our government for anything they want but the bottom line is the country keeps voting them in heavily implying the opposition are worse.
Anyway, talk about Black Sails or fuck off you fat cunt
Good brainwashed little brit, suck that royal clit.
I did talk about black sails you brown fuck, I love the show.
I don't have to deny it, obesity is rare in the balkans, unlike GREAT britain. Great means big in your language, right, great lad?
See it died when we stopped calling the royals gays and calling women stupid. Besides, what is more black sails then calling royals gays and women whores?
Fuck royals and (most) elite women. But the women that managed to be in royal positions were pretty great.
>inb4 the fag tries to say modern royals had any power
>But the women that managed to be in royal positions were pretty great.
you the type of gay that tries to stroke the clit hoping for a facial, aren't you?
What in the fuck are you talking about degenerate
>Perhaps if she had used her authority
What authority?
Weird how you people care more about Harry marrying a mulatto than you do about Andrew raping kids
The absolute state of American education
Heard russians executed people freely on your own soil and that scotland had a referendum and is asking for another one. The state of the united kingdom is the only laughing matter here. Your female king shattered Brittania to a shitty invaded country filled with brown fucks and gingers who want independence.
epic show when they are doing sailing stuff
boring as fuck when they are doing island stuff
simple as
These two were phenomenal
Silver specially. An actor with thst much natural charm and charisma is a finding
How come I've never seen then in anything else?
>he went to go live on a farm with all the nice animals
I just watched on youtube Blackbeard and some Charles Vane and Flint moments. I think that's more than enough given how season 2 was boring as fuck. Women ruin erverything
yeah you can basically skip everything that happens in port. Every scene on a boat is great.
I did not read this thread, and I will not stay to read the replies, but when I tried to watch the show that brown bitch with the fake french accent was the most annoying character I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on television
I 100% dropped the show when the lesbian love triangle entered onto the boat.
But long john silvers is kino.
Can we have just one thread here that doesn't crumble down to buttmad barrages?
Nope
Get out of the closet gays
The ending is on the level of the sopranos and people still sleep over it because of the gayness
Lol