>boooooo why can't the west make shows like anime?
>west makes show using anime methods
>boooooo why does it look so cheap?
>boooooo why can't the west make shows like anime? >west makes show using anime methods
>boooooo why can't the west make shows like anime?
>west makes show using anime methods
>boooooo why does it look so cheap?
The only people who think this looks like an anime are white people.
I'll let that statement speak for itself.
No, normalgays who dont watch anime.
Fpbp, this looks absolutely nothing like anime
>this looks absolutely nothing like anime
that's literally just revisionism
White people who watch anime.
Bro I'm white & I can tell it's a fricking cartoon. It's an Amerianime. A fake anime. Nips don't use Flash & don't care about MUH DIVERSITY which was shilled by the women in the show. It's a Harry Potter knock off written by female writers.
The Japanese don't even make the distinction, they call all cartoons anime. To them this whole controversy would be seen moronic as frick.
Nips literally call all animation anime you moronic weeb. Only japanophiles think it's distinct
>west makes show using anime methods
If you say so, OP.
Cinemaphile would gladly suck this show's wiener if it was either produced in France, released about a decade earlier, or both. I mean, it has that yurop "'00s-era animu wannabe" style to it.
You know what, remove the troony stuff and bawd up the designs by 30% too and you'd be right. People would dismiss it as a discount Wakfu or w/e but it wouldn't get as much outrage
you mean Cinemaphile would suck this show's wiener if it was made before tumblr existed.
youre both idiots there was nothing enjoyable about this crap
people dont like anime because its good anon
>one of the popular anime
>is literally a history show
>with terrible cgi
>and mediocre characters
yeah no
>They can, even moreso than most of the Japs at best
Maybe like twenty years ago you could say that but you're 2 decades late.
*Maybe like eighty years ago you could say that
yeah but im trying to be fair
Have you tried reading comics made by people not from tumbler? Image comics and 2000 ad have good art.
it's one decent american artist vs a million japs high on anime breasts drawing like pic rel. this is from porn btw
>the koreans don't design the goblinos, only do the animation.
I know. That doesn't mean the results don't become even shittier under their robotic hands.
>CoTc actually had good animation on the first season
Not really, no.
>one decent american artist
more like a collective of decent american/british artists
>I know. That doesn't mean the results don't become even shittier under their robotic hands.
calarts graduates can't animate for shit, most of them can't even draw.
>more like a collective of decent american/british artists
like who?
>calarts graduates can't animate for shit, most of them can't even draw.
i dunno man, them disney/pixar movie guys really blow the crap out of those animu guys
>like who?
Image (US), and 2000 AD(UK)
>i dunno man, them disney/pixar movie guys really blow the crap out of those animu guys
the ones that do that generic 3d shit no one liked like lightyear?
>Image (US), and 2000 AD(UK)
you can't even name the artists, sad. Even the filthies of weeabos whose brain is rotten by all the coom can tell who drew their favourite manga.
>the ones that do that generic 3d shit no one liked like lightyear?
Along with actually good works like Soul, Luca, Turning Red, Encanto etc.
>you can't even name the artists, sad.
In all fairness, you didn't name any of those so-called "favourite manga artists" yourself. Anyways, I wasn't the one who brought them up to begin with.
>It seems like you read just the one series and think the rest of em are that level of good too.
>Also ditto for Disney/pixar animations too
Not like weebs haven't done the same with certain studio/publisher's works, like our trigger fellow above.
>actually good works like Soul, Luca, Turning Red, Encanto
Is that a joke?
No.
Then that's sad.
>Along with actually good works like Soul, Luca, Turning Red, Encanto etc.
they are just generic kiddie crap, not even comparable to their older work, Disney hasn't tried anything new in year. They are too comfortable knowing that they killed every form on competition and they don't have to try anymore
>In all fairness, you didn't name any of those so-called "favourite manga artists" yourself
hirohiko araki, kaito mitsubashi, Tukushi Akihito, yoh yoshinari, Yumemakura Baku just to name a few
>they are just generic kiddie crap
Like most shounen manga/anime?
>hirohiko araki, kaito mitsubashi, Tukushi Akihito, yoh yoshinari, Yumemakura Baku just to name a few
Yumemakura's a novelist, and Yoshinari's an "animator". The other three fit the bill though, so i'll give you that.
Not as sad as whatever anime's out there these days.
Surprise surprise, it's animated by a jap:
https://porigoshi.tumblr.com/post/665710595589439488/steven-universe-completion-commemorative-animation
>Not as sad as whatever anime's out there these days.
Much sadder actually, since you, a grown adult, are trying to pretend that it's some kind of high tier art.
Irony
>Like most shounen manga/anime?
anime is not only shounen, unlike western cartoons anime is only a medium and not a ''genre''
Frick cartoons here. It so limited its not even funny anime.
Where's my FOOD cartoon?
Where's my EXERCISE cartoon?
Where's my IDOL cartoon?
Where's my SPORT cartoon?
Western Shit got nothing on the Japanese Animation industry.
Look at this shit! Can you find anything like that here?!
Keijo is truly beautiful and unparalleled in the West
Damn shame the manga was canceled. But at least the creator was treated respectful and can look back on something.
>Where's my FOOD cartoon?
>Where's my EXERCISE cartoon?
>Where's my IDOL cartoon?
>Where's my SPORT cartoon?
Don't need 'em, 'cause we haven't ran out of good, animation-worthy ideas yet.
>we haven't ran out of good, animation-worthy ideas yet.
Uhh, didn't we just get like 5 cartoon reboots announced in the last week?
Still less than the million other mango/LN adaptations announced within the same timespan.
We already have those as episode plots within cartoons, so there's even less need for them on their own.
>Still less than the million other mango/LN adaptations announced within the same timespan.
But it implies that you HAVE run out of good, animation-worthy ideas, if you're going back and remaking tons of old shit. There's no reason why there should be a Rugrats, Powerpuff Girls (again), Tiny Toons, Foster's Home, Beavis and Butthead, Proud Family, Ducktales, He-Man, and TMNT reboot all within 5 years of each other.
In fact, American entertainment in general seems to be relying HEAVILY on reboots and retoolings of previous works nowadays, you guys don't really have that creative spark anymore.
Or more accurately, it shows that the networks and studios are desperate, because their new stuff isn't attracting a big enough audience anymore, so they're trying to get nostalgiabucks.
You don't want this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWp1npa6Ko
>the west should take the worst parts of anime
no thanks
This is why we don't have anything to watch in the west! You stay in your safe space and don't want to explore! Enjoy your copy pastes shows!
>no dude sports anime #35069 is really unique and cool i swear
Damn right it is.
Yes and it there for people who want to watch sports. There's a selection to choose from, there is SOMETHING there for THEM. In the west, there's nothing. well there is something, but you guys don't want to ANIMATE it. You guys don't want to provide the food for them.
That's one episode. Why the frick would i want to watch whole series that doesn't interest me? Are you mad?! It's like you telling me to go watch MLP for a golf episode.
>MUH ANIME IS DEGENERATE
Buddy I have seen similar things in Western cartoons. I rather fap to their asses than your ugly ass cartoon characters. You do realize there was Western porn of cartoon long before anime was around, right? You do realize you have an entire block on CN for adult animation that has the same sexual innuendos, but no one faps off to it because they are ugly to look at.
Fan service has existed since the creation of all animation. Go look at some Betty Boop cartoons if you don't believe me.
But that's old shit, We got new shit and it keep coming every season.... EVERY SEASON. Where are your new shit ecchi? And you didn't even fricking provide me anything of today.
>We got new shit and it keep coming every season
At the end of the day, this is western animation's biggest sin. There's so little produced relative to what's possible, that every cartoon has to bear the weight individually that dozens of anime do collectively. Art requires iteration, and American animation iterates at the speed of molasses
>42 anime airing this season
>not counting leftovers from that began in previous seasons
>or things that don't air on jap tv
>or OVAS, series of shorts, or movies
how do they even do it
If you want ecchi then go to >>>/e/
You gotta look beyond the ecchi!
>Where's my FOOD cartoon?
right here
Now fill my other categories......FILL IT ALL! And i want TODAY cartoons!
Enjoy your limitation and deep color palettes. b***h you'll never see animation like this ever, because you got soccer moms and crazy CEOs controlling your industry.
Be honest have you read more than one comic series from those two publishers in the last 30 years?
It seems like you read just the one series and think the rest of em are that level of good too.
Also ditto for Disney/pixar animations too
Anime isnt comics but yes i have.
>image and 2000 ad
Frick no, sweet frick no, Dredd art hasnt improved in years and image looks generic as frick
you can't when things like
and
and adventure time and high guardian spice exist.
Its like american animation wants to be as soulless as possible.
>Maybe like twenty years ago you could say that but you're 2 decades late.
Nah, I can say that even now. I mean, the Japs have plenty of decent draftsman, but don't get me wrong; the japs have decent draftsmen but that obviously that doesn't translate to their animation, and given that the Koreans owe much of their own industry to them you could argue that those same flaws seep into their works too.
Holy shit is that animation floaty.
Again,
>"in the realms of tv a lot of the time, the koreans we often farm to water our shit down to the point where it seems like we can't."
plus the points mentioned above and all.
>I mean, don't get me wrong;*
frick
the koreans don't design the goblinos, only do the animation. CoTc actually had good animation on the first season but the ugly designs ruined everything.
tumblr's been around since like '05, but yeah you're right.
>'05
'07*
people forget that the secret sauce of anime is slave labor
you're right, even with the trans stuff. People would be okay with that if the person making it wasnt american
I heard way more complaining about the ugly visual style, awful VA work and troony/gay nonsense than anyone complaining that the cheap cartoon looked kind of cheap.
If it were released a decade earlier it wouldn't have the annoying social justice stuff and would just be a shitty fantasy cartoon. It would probably have a few more unironic fans but it still wouldn't be beloved.
>ugly visual style
i dunno it's not a high bar but it still looks better than the usual shit we get.
Getting real bored of these 'This show would TOTALLY BE A HIT if it was earlier/It's totally going to be remembered as awesome later!' bullshit.
Who the frick even believes this enough to think it works as bait?
If it's bait then it worked on you so you defeated your own fricking point
It's unironically okay when France does it. I honestly don't think America is good at respecting foreign arts especially asian ones. Historically, that's what France is good at.
This is definitely true.
France seems to be generally capable of respecting foreign cultures.
With the American adaptations of Japanese properties we've seen (Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, Dragonball, Resident Evil, etc. etc.) it's pretty obvious that Americans have no respect for anything that's not made by Americans.
If it was produced in France or released about a decade earlier it would probably be animated a lot better.
>if the show wasnt the show it'd be better
Just say its shit jfc
Atleast you get it.
yeah, it would be another totally spies variation.
>boooooo why can't the west make shows like anime?
>west makes a show "inspired" by troony moon
>boooooo why does it look so cheap?
ftfy
They (kinda) got the aesthetic, but they didn't get the spirit
I was at Anime Expo and talked with several execs from Crunchyroll for several days. This show never came up in my talks or anywhere at the con at all; between that and the ultra delayed fanfareless release I can 100% say CR knows this shit was a misfire and just wants it forgotten.
>meanwhile japs taking inspiration from cartoons
the difference is Americans can't draw for shit, they have a heart attack and screams ''IT'S MY STYLEEEEE'' if you criticize them for having bad anatomy, at the end they pay for art degrees so even if they are shit it doesn't matter. Meanwhile, japs work their ass off to stand out from each other and begin grinding their fundies in high school
>the difference is Americans can't draw for shit
They can, even moreso than most of the Japs at best; it just happens to be that in the realms of tva lot of the time, the koreans we often farm to water our shit down to the point where it seems like we can't. Not that anime today doesn't suffer from the same shit of course, since it farms out shit to that country too.
>They can, even moreso than most of the Japs at best
no, no way in hell. all the people that come out of calarts draws like shit, and it's because they are supposed to, because it's cheaper for the company. maybe 30 years ago you could have said that, with Frazetta and all. But nowadays? lmao, look at this goblino and tell me it's better drawn than even the most generic of animus.
i hate this show because it tries to pay homage to animes but it feels so cheap when they do because it's tropes and cliches a child won't understand making it obvious that this is made for manchildren in mind rather than a children's cartoon
Welcome to nu-CN.
Referentialism is a cancer.
>That anime had a video game & manga before the anime came out
Yeah, I know, Japan sells out hard so you can consoom hard, if you're Japanese. I'll just assume you're a weeb since you're fangasming over literal commercials.
Also did you try >>>Cinemaphile or >>>Cinemaphile ? You seem to just care about those two things and nothing Cinemaphile related. You haven't even given an opinion on my Cinemaphile recommendation after you were begging for American food cartoons.
Go back to Wrong board
Oh wait, no-one likes you there either.
I don't considered myself a weeb or otaku, but the weebs have a point. Why so many western shit shows have such awful character designs? Is it because they run by israelites? Is it because of female writers? Is it because they have actual pedophiles making those shows?
If I had to choose between nutting to bean-smile drawing from Adventure Time or Lucy from Fairy Tale, which do you think I'd choose? I rest my case.
But the American food cartoon is just a few, not a whole. They want food as the theme in the beginning and end, not a small tiny little special episode. Unfortunately i'm not a food anime watcher like this guy here
which he rightfully call me out. i am more into the scifi adventure, horror/mystery, action pack anime. Ecchi is a plus!
You guys don't provide any scary shit to this level.
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Actually, what is the scariest cartoon? On purpose. With anime, I can lean on stuff like yamishibai
but I can't recall any cartoons that are straight horror, instead of just borrowing the aesthetic
The only thing i can think of is Extreme Ghostbusters and MIB.
Since you like those type of stuff, go watch
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35069/Sekai_no_Yami_Zukan
It's so fricking bad man. I watched it all, but it was so incredibly fricking bad
.....but i like it.
You've got better options out there. Not too many playing in the shorts space, but even the Junji Ito series was definitely better than Yami Zukan.
I have nothing! Everything else is full episodes and i'm pretty sure you've watch it all already. Just go to video games and call it a day.
This.
That looks like "faux action" Hollywood choreography, kind of like nu-Star Wars.
they aren't even hitting each other, SU is a show for pussies
>Meanwhile, japs work their ass off to stand out from each other and begin grinding their fundies in high school
ironic that this post was written by a trigger Black person kek
>one frame body
>two frame sword
And people tell me American fight scene animation is bad...
This
I would also add laziness to the factor too. Many westerngays are lazy at animating. Most western shows are either outsourced to 3rd worlders for cheaper labor or animated in flash. The problem with Flash is that the animation looks generic. It's not like frame-by-frame, where it is far more labor intensive. Modern anime is still appealing to the eyes because everything is animated frame-by-frame. And no, you don't a stinking art degree to draw like a expert. Lurking in /ic/ long enough will give you all the tools & knowledge you need to draw like a pro, regardless of art style.
If cartoons looked like that they wouldn't be cartoons.
What the frick do you mean by that?! explain yourself! I want to hear your bullshit.
cartoons are flat, ugly and have no perspective, if cartoons had perspective and anatomy and shit they will stop looking ugly and wont be cartoons anymore, they will be more Anime /ic/ shit.
How can you differentiate Anime from Cartoons so easily? well by how they look, cartoons are at their core ugly and flat.
Remember when anime looked kinda like that a long time ago?
That was based on the Rankin-Bass stop motion animation that came straight outta japan.
a movie by Sanrio the people producing Hello Kitty
Nah, it came from this anime (Andersen Monogatari, the '71 version). Different tale too, I think:
You're right in that it was produced by a Rankin-Bass collaborator: Mushi Pro.
I wanna frick rosemary
The problem with your western shit cartoons, is that your themes and scenarios are fricking force! And your action scenes are flat as frick! There is like no IMPACT, no feel, nothing that can get the user pump up. FRICK! Do you guys even go back and watch these poor attempt of a action scene?! I bet none of you guys do. Then you got these ugly ass girls, with the tattoos, dye hair, and piercing. HOLY SHIT! Your cartoon promotes bottom or the barrel ugliness....my eyes...oh god my eyes! People want to escape, not be reminded of ugly ass girls of today, especially that fatness....DISGUSTING! Plus the character design doesn't look amazing. Nobody going remember the group in your bootlegged china shit design. And that goat is abomination!
If you want to be ANIME LIKE!
+Unique Art Style
+Well craft scenes
+Good intro/outro. Not this fricking forgettable music piece or catchy generic BS.
+Characters that look amazingAND SEXY
+A STORY THAT ISN'T A SUPER HERO SHIT. You guys have WAY TOO MANY repeated themes.
+Comedy need to take a backseat.
+BRING YOUR COMICS AND BOOKS TO LIFE PAGE BY PAGE IN VISUAL FORM. You guys ignore and treat your comic industry like trash. You take bits and pieces and refuse to adopt the whole thing. Always doing your own fanfiction shit. You know why most of the time anime is popular, because they ALWAS respect the original. Readers of manga get a treat and people first hearing about the anime will ALWAYS check out the original source. When you watch a batman/spider man/fricking whatever, do you think the watcher have something to look for after the show is over? FRICK NO! Because they keep doing their OWN THING! So there's nothing to check out, nothing to look for, no attachment whatsoever!
>Team of schmucky amateurs are put into a position they're not ready for.
>Team of schmucky amateurs are remarkably awful at their jobs.
No foolin?
>>Team of schmucky amateurs are put into a position they're not ready for.
>>Team of schmucky amateurs are remarkably awful at their jobs.
Reminds me of Ex-Arm, also distributed/co-produced by CR funnily enough.
The difference being Ex-Arm is a gift of God.
it looks cheap as frick and those who say murica should make shows like anime are almost all morons
>it looks cheap as frick
Just the TV animation life I guess.
Animation in general is a medium.
>Animation in general is a medium.
the why does America only make kiddie movies and family guy clones?
The same reason Japan only makes shounen anime and isekai adaptations.
>It's unironically okay when France does it.
They're better than the Koreans and the Japanese when it comes to their outsourcing, at least.
Because America is moronic.
>boooooo why can't the west make shows like anime?
No one ever said that, they want more action shows instead of comedies. But frick that idea, how about more action comedies like American Dad instead?
>It's another "magic school" show
Can't lesbians think of anything original or good?
They will never break Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura strong hold. They are unbeatable! Let them try and fail over and over again! The results will always be the same!
Proof that the left can't meme. And the worst part is the western shit shows are trying to be as woke as possible, which only alienates their only fanbase. Your fans are what feed you.
why is it when a jap draws something inspired by the west it looks utterly soulful and beautiful but when westerners do it it looks so ugly and uncanny?
harry potter ruined magic related media forever
Needs something like a magic school that is like harry potter itself but not harry potter/a protagonist that doesn't suck. 99% of them want to put a twist on harry potter that doesn't need to be there.
This thread is why I say anyone with a passing interest in Japanese culture is a weeaboo; weebs can't help proving me right.
I think it just shows that you don't know what the word weeaboo means.
I don't care what it means, when every anime fan I've ever encountered acts just as cringe and childish as the stereotypical weeaboo.
I think you just feel that way because you're used to America getting its dick sucked and now that that's no longer the case it upsets you immensely, so you lash out at people and look for labels you can use to disregard their argument without admitting any fault on the part of your country.
Very common among Americans nowadays.
>you just feel that way because
Because every anime fan I've ever encountered acts just as cringe and childish as the stereotypical weeaboo.
I'm sorry that you cannot cope about your country's decreasing cultural relevance.
You are no longer the big dogs and most people find the media you produce to be laughable at best and disgusting at worst.
I couldn't give less of a frick about Babylon being the capitol of the world if I was shock-treated and lobotomized into complete pathological apathy.
Now, can we stay on the topic of anime fans being everything they accuse the mythical Weeaboo Man of being?
Right, because you don't know what a weeaboo is.
A weeaboo is someone who desperately wishes they were Japanese and worships everything about them.
Saying "I prefer Japan's animation to America's since they make far more of what I like" is not a weeaboo position.
Again, I'm sorry that you cannot cope with this.
>A weeaboo is someone who desperately wishes they were Japanese and worships everything about them.
Talk to any anime fan long enough, you'll get it out of them eventually.
Not really.
Again, I'm sorry that you cannot cope.
Cope with what?
Your increasing irrelevance.
Like I said, it's why you want to negatively label anyone who does not like the media produced by your country and prefers the media produced by another country.
You're just going to keep unflinchingly project "COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE" onto me like a Pavlov's dog, aren't you?
You keep presenting non-arguments like "If you prefer anime to cartoons it's cuz ur a dirty weeaboo cuz I said so, I know it in my bones!" so yes.
Make an argument and I'll have no reason to just say you're coping, because as it stands you are clearly just coping.
My argument is that anime is shit, so there's no reason for a non-Japanese person to like it besides being a deluded oikophobe or just plain mentally stunted.
full metal alchemist is better than any non-anime inspired cartoon you can mention.
And your "argument" is shit.
It's really just you upset that people prefer anime to what your country produces.
Oh no, I'm doing it again...
Then go back to your containment board.
>Oh no, I'm doing it again...
Looks like I am too.
Funny how you can't take the hint. No, not even the hint, you made it to the end of the book and still can't remember the main character's name.
>cope
Dismissed. I'm not dealing with another one of you c**ts.
>Funny how you can't take the hint.
What hint?
All you've done is flail about, whine, and cope.
The hint that your accusation that I have some patriotic allegiance to Babylon's propaganda is its own cope.
>All you've done is flail about, whine
Presented without comment.
>The hint that your accusation that I have some patriotic allegiance to Babylon's propaganda is its own cope.
Well you seem to be getting very defensive on their behalf, so you definitely seem to have some allegiance.
>you don't like shit? stop being defensive
Yeah, I'm going to keep calling every last one of you weeaboos until my cursed homeland crucifies me. Never will be sorry.
Well, then I guess all you can do is continue to cope.
Yes, (You) can.
Well then, continue coping.
You don't need my permission.
Right, I'm telling you to continue as you are; keep coping.
Keep projecting.
That's it anon, keep the cope going.
If you wanted to make me look dumb, why prove my point?
You don't have a point, that's the issue.
Is memory loss a symptom?
That's not a point, that's an assumption.
>what you've seen with your lying eyes is just an assumption
This is past cope, you're just a plain c**t.
This is on par with saying all white people are racists who want to kill all non-whites because I've seen racist white people who support ethnic genocide.
The difference is, no one has ever met a "normal" anime fan, and everyone who claims otherwise is an anime fan and therefore an unreliable source.
Again, this is like saying no one has ever met a non-racist white person.
And historically, that would actually be a lot more accurate as a statement.
>stop believing your lying eyes
Oh no, you're free to believe them all you want, just so long as you also accept "all whites are racists who want to genocide all non-whites" since people say that based on their "lying eyes."
Either people are allowed to believe their lying eyes or they're not.
>Then go back to your containment board.
cope.
Mention something better than fmab or Eureka 7.
do it
>do it
Samurai Champloo as well, since "anime is shit"
Trying to count the frames... and I'm just disappointed by how there's basically 2 per action unless my eyes are deceiving me and it's just 1.
There is more volume & more effort put into those single frames than what is shown here
.
What sort of comparison are you trying to make, buddy?
Because the one is very hard to follow the actions of the characters (animation shows you the afterwards of an action, not the anticipation nor the during) but it lets the eyes focus on one character at a time and staggers each action so you have... some... time to process what you just saw.
And the other is hard to read due to it everyone and the background being coloured pink, morphic rubberhose alongside sonic spinball alongside humanlike moving bodies, changing silhouettes... but the animation is very fluid and it's VERY easy to understand what a character is going to do, is doing and has just done provided you follow just them.
So to me, SU has more volume and effort than your budget samurai animation. Even your argument for "each frame" as if animation is a slideshow doesn't work because that's the least pretty and per frame effort costly anime I've seen in a while.
The irony here is that that SU scene was animated by a Japanese dude.
Yeah and so was a part of BtAS (don't know if specifically scene related was).
My opinion for the longest time is a Jap in charge leads to shit art but a Jap working for a foreign artist from a country that knows what art is? They can make some beautiful things.
Japan just doesn't teach or give people time to have a heart, mind and soul.
>Japan just doesn't teach or give people time to have a heart, mind and soul.
homie wut
>posting beanhead chibi sailor outfit schoolgirl
>doesn't understand how Japan isn't creative
Exhibit A.
Try to not be so easy next time.
>le whites
Stop speaking white if you're rent freeing this badly.
>I don't consider myself a [label] but [I am]
Try to avoid this kind of sentence. It makes you look stupid.
>awful character designs
Same goes for most of the world, including Japan. Try looking at Disney if you want a big American name that does it better. Europe is also an option. Africa? Haha. Arabia? India? Asia? Oof.
>muh israelites, muh feeeemales, muh pedos
>If I had to choose between bean or generic anime, I'd pick generic anime
Yes, you are a weeb. Did you have to pick such a trashy waifu drawn the same as every other one? Oh wait, of course you did, because they're all drawn exactly the same.
I met a normal anime fan. When I mentioned any of the FOTM animes from the past 5 years or any of the memes from the last 10 he was all "Uhhh... what?"
He's actually an anime game fan and it shows, badly
>Stop speaking white
So long as you stop posting on Cinemaphile, since its creation was inspired by a Japanese website and it's currently owned by a Japanese dude.
>Jap cucked so badly his website is populated by Americans
Isn't Pixiv struggling with immigration too? Lol.
Go back to your containment board. Wrong board
>American trying to talk shit about someone else in regards to immigration
Anon, this ain't it.
>everyone I don't like is American
Oof. Close but no cigar. You might have seen various language hints along the way but Americans live rent free in your head so badly that you'll never understand more than them agree you're pathetic.
Oh, excuse me
>Anglo trying to talk shit about someone else in regards to immigration
Anon, this ain't it.
"Japan isn't creative" is just such an embarrassingly bad argument. You and I both know that anime isn't confined to the schoolgirl archetype. Is the vast majority of anime breaking into the avant garde? No, obviously not, but when you get literally four dozen new shows every season, odds are good you'll get some gems. Please do not underestimate the power of high quantity iteration.
>You and I both know that anime isn't confined to the schoolgirl archetype.
Schoolgirl, battle school, paedo school, doki doki school, Lovecraft goes to school, furries go to school, danganronpa school... whatever you want to call it, I think it's evident it is shackled grimly to the concept.
Sometimes it has a fighting shounen, sometimes a tournament, sometimes a toy commercial... but it always comes back to the schools on the next go around.
>Is the vast majority of anime breaking into the avant garde? No, obviously not, but when you get literally four dozen new shows every season, odds are good you'll get some gems.
>high quantity iteration
You need infinite monkeys on typewriters to produce a Shakespearean play. Four dozen every season? And they're all trend chasers? It'll never happen.
I'm sorry but the maths doesn't lie.
Oh no, it's an Anglo.
That explains so much.
>y- you're the one who c- can't talk shit about immigration
Still speaking my native tongue I see. Is it your native tongue too? Did we colonise you that badly or was it one of our colonies?
Oh well, can't be helped, you'll die speaking English, or some gibberish that sounds something like "No u".
So which is it, Brit or Aussie?
Based on your 'tism, I'm thinking Aussie, they tend to get the most butthurt at anime, though Brits have their fair share of butthurt as well.
This season we have:
>Isekai Oji-san - A forty year old man recounts his time being sent to a fantasy world
>500 Million Year Button - If you press the button you get a million yen, but you have to spend five hundred million years alone
>Cyberpunk Edgerunners - A standalone story set in the Cyberpunk universe
Are any of these good? Dunno. Are they trapped in the school life genre? Assuredly not.
>literally called isekai
Christ. You call that a gem?
The last one is some Cinemaphileshit and the second one is such a nothing I can't find much about it at all beyond some awful mobile app looking shit, see image related. Literally a beanhead on the left, lmao.
I'm turning off the computer. I can't handle how much I'm cringing at your terrible taste.
I explicitly did not call it a gem, but I'm more than willing to stop this moronic conversation here
>isekai
These damn fantasy fans get all the goodies, while we space adventure fans get nothing! Why the frick can the guy get isekai to a futuristic world and space?! It's always the damn low country shit and medieval times!
Wrong era is really the only answer. It's not like space sci-fi had a short run, we're just in the isekai period right now. And even then, they're still making Gundam stuff.
I guess i'll take whatever and i did like these kind of stuff when we didn't have stupid mmo shit all over it.
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Sadly, I suspect dragon quest aesthetic will outlive isekai. I give reasonable odds to Japan subsuming Korea's dungeon genre as the next big thing, and it doesn't lack for stat windows
>literally called isekai
It's not really an Isekai despite it's name, it's the story of a guy coming back from an isekai adventure and is now living on earth agien after his fantasy adventure.
This is what I like about anime, how I'm always finding new things to watch.
Like this season I really liked Spy x Family and Yofukashi no uta.
It's a feeling I don't really get with the western entertainment any more, everything is just repetitive and boring, the same "muh huh white people bad men bad muh culture war" bullshit, it's like they only write series just to be angry or make someone else angry.
>Japs are better at animation than us, b-b-but it only has soul when WE'RE in charge
Man, white people nowadays have some insane fricking egos despite producing almost nothing but garbage.
It's not hard to understand homosexual. Chunk Jones & Tex Avery were able to pull off volume & effort in their work. Look at Tom & Jerry as an example. When Jerry hits Tom, you see the volume change. You see the impact when he gets hurt. Tom's face changes. You can see the emotion in the character. His body form changes going off-scale. The cute aggression is also another factor because the characters are appealing to the eyes. There are simple basics in animation that westerngays like you have forgotten
>volume changes upon action
>you see impact
>change
>emotion
>body form changes
>off scale
>cute aggression(???)/appealing character design
Okay so I'm looking at the samurais with this and... well when you have 1 frame per action/impact it probably explains why there is no change, emotion, change or scale.
I'm also not sure why you're pointing at a gritty standard design anime rather than something chibi for half of those points. Then again even those are quite bad at it.
And then if I apply the same criteria to the SU one again... volume seems to be there, impact isn't there because they're not reacting to one another like Disney Star Wars choreography, emotion is dead due to the few frames, lack of lingering and because characters are constantly facing away, body form changes for the sonic ball and rubberhose girl if you want to be literal, scale difference is there, and these designs are appealing to someone who is transitioning I suppose, which is sort of like anime if you think about it.
So did you just play yourself?
>I-I don't care what it means...
What a clown!
Thank you for proving my point.
>troony teacher grooms vulnerable student confused about their identity
>boooooo why does it look so cheap?
Looking cheap was by far the LEAST of HGS's problems, shitposter-kun.
I'll leave the others alone, but Gordon Ramsey is not a cartoon. I want to watch cartoons, since cartoons goes beyond the limit of reality and not bound to reality. Keijo is a perfect example that you can't do it in real life. The sad thing is, Keijo was so popular, a country try to make the booty sport a reality. We all know damn well that shit not going to work like the animation we see on tv/monitor.
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/07/22/you-can-stop-wishing-keijo-is-now-a-real-sport
>I want to watch cartoons, since cartoons goes beyond the limit of reality and not bound to reality.
A food cartoon about making... eggs benedict... is going beyond the limit of reality and is not bound to reality?
>The sad thing is, Keijo was so popular, a country try to make the booty sport a reality.
Yeah that is pretty sad, not just because it's from an anime but because that looks liable to cause injuries and long term health issues faster than conventional sports, excluding the ones where you're actively punching someone's face.
Yes, food anime can go beyond.
>single frame "animation"
is this just a cheap and shitty shounen trying to be pokémon but without an original theme song?
If you want fighting and food, just run through a list of KND episodes and pick whichever ones say they're about food.
You even have better songs that are written and spoken in English first, not Japanese.
>is this just a cheap and shitty shounen trying to be pokémon but without an original theme song?
This is your mind on shitty dubs. That anime had a video game & manga before the anime came out
>is this just a cheap and shitty shounen trying to be pokémon but without an original theme song?
>being a dubgay
Nice cherry picking, homosexual. Martial Arts Cooking Legend Bistro Recipe is only one example. There are other cooking anime, including Cooking Papa, Food Wars, etc. BTW 4Kids ruined Bistro Recipe. Their dubs are all garbage.
Well excuse me for not watching alot of fricking FOOD anime!
You will not be excused, yakitate japan is a work of art
Since you're here, provide us the BEST action scene in that show. Because you know damn well we don't watch your cartoons. Show us what High Guardian Spice got!
Why does it look so cheap? Why can't they make shows like anime that look expensive?
Anime looks incredibly cheap (except for movies that actually get a budget)
It's why SoL stuff is so common. You make 10 frames of animation and just have the characters sit stationary for 24 minutes.
So why not imitate the anime that don't look cheap?
>So why not imitate the anime that don't look cheap?
There's anime that doesn't look cheap?
https://medium.com/@jasonmuell/how-much-does-it-cost-to-produce-an-anime-episode-f55f8740e081
It's a mindset problem not a visual problem
Honestly, out of everything, the animation was the bottom of my complaints.
>Episode 1 had about half the episode just being them travelling. No real worldbuilding, no locations that later became relevant, all it did was show that carriages and trains exist in this world.
>They couldnt have broadcast the 'twist' they were building up any harder. We learn that a mysterious disease called 'The Rot' or something is infecting the world. We learn the level of magic is physically receding back into the planet. We learn that magic-infused water cures The Rot. We learn that 'Witch Country' manufactures new magic shit that apparently has no associated cost. We learn that 'Witch Country' sends out assassins to kill people who learn that magic-infused water cures The Rot. Yeah, we get it, Witch Country manufactures Terra Spheres, which draw magic from the planet, but does not replenish it, like Old Magic does, so that causes The Rot, and they are willing to kill people who start to figure that out. So, yeah, the main story behind the series was going to be about Climate Change and Big Oil.
>Basically half of the main cast is incredibly unlikable. Rosemary and Sage are so self-obsessed, but never really get punished for it. Thyme doesnt want to be there so bad, it doesnt make sense that she is at the academy at all. Parsley is alright, but even they dont know what to do with her, so she just tags along to someone else's adventure most of the time. Amaryllis is the only one really entertaining to watch, a real crime to leave her out of the mermaid episode. Snapdragon has a potentially interesting story, which they COULD make about masculinity vs toxic masculinity, but they were definitely going to troon him out in the most basic b***h trans story.
>There is pretty much nothing interesting in the world building. Maybe it would be more accurate to say there is no world building. Despite being in a school setting, we dont learn anything.
What's your argument exactly? All they did is created a slightly polished version of Steven Universe. Ugh...
The existence of this show gives me reason to push for the further subjugation of the weaboo race.
It looks absolutely NOTHING like an anime, one can tell it's a cartoon from a mile away.
T. someone who has watched anime for over 30 years by now
There's something completely different about the shapes burgers and samurai draw and I can't really explain what, but my personal theory is it stems from writing systems. By which I mean alphabet vs kana/kanji.
they actually study anatomy to draw their anime waifus. They see the ''anime face'' as a stylization of the real human face while westerners just symbol draw, if you actually listen to mangakas talk about how they learned to draw most of them recommend you two things, croquis, and loomis. This is drawn by the same person that did
Yeah, but why is that such a culturally consistent trend? I posit that it might be from writing. Like, the first thing probably anyone does, and something we do an immense amount of when young (though I guess this might change with computers) is writing. We even think in written words and understand language through written words, wanting to see a new word written down etc. Most western languages construct words from simple, mostly round shapes. Kanji on the other hand is a frickload of symbols coming together to make a frickload more extremely complex bespoke symbols; from a relatively young age they're entirely familiar with the idea of complex constructions in writing with hard edges and soft curves together, why wouldn't that translate to how they draw? と思います
just a mad theory, pls no hate me
that has nothing to do otherwise chinese and koreans wouldn't have the same problem westerners do
But half of pixiv is from China and Korea
have you seen how chinks draw? it's peak soulless
Chinks are entirely capable of ripping off anime, they do it all the time. Not having a soul isn't a problem for them as long as they can rip something off.
can you name one chink anime? no one cares about it or considers it ''anime'' they suffer the same problemof westerns of just copying anime instead of studying fundamentals
>changolians
Just copying literally everything Japan does. AZL is literally a carbon copy of Kancolle that only flew because the Japanese gacha gamblers are fine with more cute girls.
Why did you say と思います at the end? I don't know if that works with a non-japanese sentence structure.
と in that context is just like putting quote marks around what came before it, so you could take any arbitrary size of statement and cap it all off with that if you want
one studies motions
the other studies poses
doesnt matter what the motion is as long as its moving
doesnt matter what the poses are as long as they do something to go between it.
one digitizes hand drawn frames and the other just does it completely digital
both have started to poorly rely on cgi to make up for assets they dont have time to make
both suffer from being formulaic = safe and profitable
both suffer from needing to pander to a select demographic.
What i look for in an anime is not what i look for in a cartoon and versa but only rarely do i see one ape the other and do it well.
Both have their modern issues that favor mass production for something they have researched to net the company the most money. but really i find as many actually good anime as actually good cartoons despite the MASSIVE difference in output.
but you know what viewers of both mediums have in common? completely ignore anything done out of passion until its too late.
these west vs east threads are terrible.
the industry does not give a single fricking shit about which is better or worse than the other. the top 3-4 production studios in japan work with artist from all over the world. America in recent years have done plenty of colab projects despite ultra autistic wanting to decided if something is consider and anime or not.
this thread is been up for 13 hours so odds are theres a staff member here allowing it to continue because god forbid we have this stupid thread almost every other day while most of the posts made biasly favors weebshit on a board about western cartoons and comics. im sure if i go make fun of the cgi in overlord in Cinemaphile it would get deleted in minutes.
heres another thing you all have in common. you never give indie stuff a chance, you never get small studio stuff a chance. you never give short projects and surprising well made ads a chance. you never give animated music videos a chance. muh disneytv nick wb muh a1 kadokawa toho.
t. some nobody indie animator who thinks his shit is better than it is
i just find more enjoyment in personal/lower scale projects
though the massive issue there being animation takes a stupid amount of money and time to do.
so while i ignore bare minimum sitcom slice of life fantasy comedy shit or bare minimum iseaki slice of life shounen shit i wait for something decent. anything decent, and those just happen to be niche short formed animation stuff until something actually worth my attention comes out.
This doesn't look like an anime. It looks like fricking Steven Universe.
I do however want more porn of the fat blonde shortstack.
If a Western show tries to be anime but can't have the balls to go all out, just kinda look like anime, then anime gays will hate it and so will Western animation gays.
This half-hearted zoomer shit is an insult to zoomers.
parsley
Yes
Parsley's Butt
yeah
Artist?
>It’s yet another thread of Cinemaphile pissing and shitting themselves because anime and Japan.
only if you take shitposting to heart i guess, though i'm aware you don't
Anon, we have this thread everyday. At some point it stops being just simple shitposting.
you're right, but considering poe's law...
Say what you want about the final product, but this had potential.
And while it's definitely trash, it's entertainingly trash, which makes it still more watchable than other shows with higher budgets