Avatar hate and fatigue is vastly overrepresented online, the audience this movie is for are foreigners and people who don't go to the movies often enough to talk about movies on the internet. That is a bigger demographic than the audience for Ant-Man 3
I don't think you understand what novelty means, people who don't go often to the movies went to see avatar because of the crazy good special fx and partly due to the 3D mania. That's all old news now, and the only thing "new" about the sequel will be the underwater mocap and greatly improved water cg (yawn). It doesn't have the same appeal. Realistically I don't even see it making a billie.
Ask any normie dipshit or filmbro what their top 3 best experiences in a theater with 3D and they will say Avatar every time. It's been 13 years since the last movie, it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy. Tobey Maguire walking onto a shitty greenscreen doesn't bring in 2 billion dollars before 2020.
Avatar is also now owned by Disney, a conglomerate that controls the critical reception of their products the way Wall Street owned the credit rating agencies before the subprime crash. Do you really think the Mouse is going to somehow fail to make a followup the highest grossing movie ever directed by a guy who only makes hits part of the cultural zeitgeist?
>it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy.
No one has nostalgia for avatar. No one cares about the characters or story. Imagine thinking anyone is looking forward to avatar the same way they were looking forward to seeing Spider-Man in NWH
Who the frick had nostalgia for Andrew Garfield's terrible movies until Disney told them to? You're vastly underestimating how pliable a general audience is. Again, if you think Disney is not going psyop this shit into being a lifetime event for every dumbass you know you're moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Who the frick had nostalgia for Andrew Garfield's terrible movies until Disney told them to?
People only liked Garfield after the movie. The hype before it’s release was all about seeing Tobey again and having multiple Spider-Man interact. You can’t do the same thing with Avatar, Jake Scully was never the reason people liked the first one
You utter pleb, there's literally NO appeal that makes this standout. The only possible claim to fame it has is being nostalgia bait for a movie barely anyone cares for outside of "oh yeah the blue cat people thing". And Disney's grapple can only go so far, even it isn't enough to propel a movie that's likely doing under 500M worldwide to 2 Billion. And Cameron's star power is practically null today, boomers don't care for movies anymore and zoomers have no clue who he is
Disprove one point I made, you're sounding like Cameron yourself by calling every slight and obvious criticism "trolling". Get a fricking grip, not nearly as many people you think care about dances with wolves in space
Boomers don't care about movies meanwhile Top Gun 2 is going to pull 600m domestic. and holy shit americans are one thing but if you think asiatics and pajeets are not going to see the American movie that defined their entire market for the last ten years you're helpless
2 years ago
Anonymous
Boomers went to Top Cuck: MAGArick because they're mostly white and as such infatuated with the media "race bashing", and it's rare nowadays that a movie glorifies war (which appeals greatly to boomers). Literally the only movie that could've garnered their interest.
Avatar on the other hand is more than anything a pacifist movie with a hippie message. Boomers hate that stuff, and they already saw the first installment, so the awe over the graphics has already been checked off. It's bound to fail. And there aren't any guarantees China won't block its showing, in fact, it's more than likely it will
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a pacifist movie with a hippie message. Boomers hate that stuff
You are truly moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro, Boomers like dumb action more than anything. They’ll see military guys shooting in the trailers and that’ll be enough to draw them in
2 years ago
Anonymous
Boomers went to Top Cuck: MAGArick because they're mostly white and as such infatuated with the media "race bashing", and it's rare nowadays that a movie glorifies war (which appeals greatly to boomers). Literally the only movie that could've garnered their interest.
Avatar on the other hand is more than anything a pacifist movie with a hippie message. Boomers hate that stuff, and they already saw the first installment, so the awe over the graphics has already been checked off. It's bound to fail. And there aren't any guarantees China won't block its showing, in fact, it's more than likely it will
They were hippies who opposed war though, so boomers are a weird dichotomy where they want war movies, but anything that reminds them of smoking weed in the middle of the desert is also acceptable. They're also more simple minded so anything pinned as a 'big budget blockbuster movie,' that doesn't seem too new to them they'll go see. Avatar has the common themes and conventions they're used to, so if they're not all dead by the time Cameron finally releases it they might go see it on mass.
>it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy
tf are you babbling about nobody has 'nostalgia' for Avatar. Are you high? >part of the cultural zeitgeist?
13 years and a mountain of hype. It was the Clinton campaign of franchises. They had every resource at their disposal but still couldn't make it happen because Avatar is just a bad. fricking. concept. Nobody wants to watch blue smurf cat aliens in a derivitve "going native" story. Sorry. Had he come out the gate with yet another hero's journey then maybe. Play it safe and maybe the franchise would have had a chance and overcome the technically-brilliant but aesthetically unappealing visuals (and the terrible casting, etc) but Jimbo didn't play it safe nor did he take risks, he just told a rather sub-optimal story that when combined with everything else that's wrong with that first film, doomed it to irrelevance.
Just look at this shit. I wouldn't call it uncanny valley, but it's a very offputting aesthetic.
>Nobody wants to watch blue smurf cat aliens in a derivitve "going native" story. Sorry.
Totally agree. We wanted to see a movie about the marines, not the blue smurfs.
Objectively false, the reason the first one made so much money was because of great word of mouth. It gave it strong legs. It’s not that people hate it, it’s just that it became forgettable in the eyes of people
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because of great word of mouth. >t. zoomer who wasn't there
It was massively hyped by the media. There was no "word of mouth" because everyone who saw it just shrugged and moved on. It wasn't really "hated" until much later when people got over their embarrassment at being duped by the media to see a moronic 3D blue cat cartoon. It was parodied pretty heavily right away though. Everyone knew it sucked and was a massive disappointment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA but in your own words you admit that Avatar could be turned into a hit by controlling the media.
Do you have any substantial argument that Disney is not in a position to just do that again? On what planet do we not get a bunch of rotten tomatoes tier critics saying "GUH WOWZERS IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL"? and everyone seeing it anyway because Top Gun Maverick is the only good blockbuster that's come out since the last Tom Cruise movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NTA but in your own words you admit that Avatar could be turned into a hit by controlling the media.
No I didn't
>Do you have any substantial argument that Disney is not in a position to just do that again?
The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
>On what planet do we not get a bunch of rotten tomatoes tier critics saying "GUH WOWZERS IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL"?
No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No I didn't >"It was massively hyped by the media" >"duped by the media"
you're so moronic it isn't worth the (You)
and LOL anon the burden is not on me for explaining why a sequel to the highest grossing movie ever coming out when the only movies that make money are sequels, is going to make money. That burden is on you dipshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Explain why this "media hit" that is a much-anticipated sequel has made no cultural impact in the years since it's been out. Answer: it wasn't a hit. It was a scam. The media tricked people into a seeing a shitty movie.
>No I didn't
Yea you did >The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
lmao you're not nearly as smart as you think you are pal. The burden is on you, you made the claim >No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional
once again, wrong. what Cinemaphile does to a mf i stg
>The burden is on you, you made the claim
No u
>No I didn't
Yea you did >The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
lmao you're not nearly as smart as you think you are pal. The burden is on you, you made the claim >No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional
once again, wrong. what Cinemaphile does to a mf i stg
>what Cinemaphile does to a mf
If you hate this place just leave, zoomer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>no cultural impact
>every single blockbuster for the last 13 years lazily post-converted into 3D just to capture a fraction of the memory audiences have of it being done right >launched 3D TVS that sold for ten years one the hype of one movie >launched premium theaters worldwide >shifted all of hollywood over to targeting foreign markets forever
Oh wait, you only measure "cultural impact" by how many homosexuals dress up as a blue cat for comic-con, not by realigning a billion dolllar industry
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s the highest grossing movie ever but can you really say it has the same cultural impact as movies like Jaws, Star Wars, or Jurassic Park? Those films are iconic, Avatar isn’t. It’s not bigger then the Avengers movies either. It never penetrated pop culture or the minds of public
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Jaws
lmao ZERO cultural impact too my dude, when was the last time you saw someone reference it? That's what I thought >Star Wars
Only relevance it has was money hungry disney latching onto it and spitting new shows almost weekly to justify the billions it spent on the IP, other than that (since the prequels were such a disappointment) it had little to no cultural relevance until very recently >Jurasic Park
Apart from memes and the trex what else is there
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Star Wars
has a national holiday and the biggest movie fan base >Jaws
iterally changed the way people view the ocean and sharks. It’s music is parodied constantly >Jurassic Park
is what comes to mind when everyone thinks of dinos
2 years ago
Anonymous
Avatar made stereoscopic 3D a permanent fixture in movies. It's been overshadowed by Avengers making serialized shared universe multiverse successful but Avatar 2 is coming out at a time when the Marvel shit is convoluted and stuffed with homework tier tv shows.
Avatar has a basic ass story that any idiot can remember before going into the next one. The fact that after ten years everyone knows what you're talking about when you say "blue cat movie" or "space pocahontas" means that yes, it has stuck around and it's not going to be a difficult job for Disney to market it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Avatar influenced Martin Scorcese and Jean Luc Godard to make a 3D movie. How's that for influence?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're right. I'm not taking into consideration the utter delusions in your head, zoomer troony.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No I didn't
Yea you did >The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
lmao you're not nearly as smart as you think you are pal. The burden is on you, you made the claim >No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional
once again, wrong. what Cinemaphile does to a mf i stg
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No word of mouth
My shithole country made it popular via Facebook and they made the DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS MOVIE event. Was even in two minds whether to see it or not. Its the peer pressure movie of 2009 just like Endgame.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I remember people talking to each other about *going* to see it but basically nobody talked about it after (apart from mocking it on the internet in the weeks/months later)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everyone did that. Its why Hurt Locker won the Best Picture.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Difference being James Cameron's ex wife made a good movie with Hurt Locker. Avatar was not a good movie. Maybe that's why Jimbo is seething.
This may be true but that audience still isn't gonna care about 3D and paying extra for it like they did in 2009.
It might be a big success but there's no way it comes anywhere close to the original
Avatar hate and fatigue is vastly overrepresented online, the audience this movie is for are foreigners and people who don't go to the movies often enough to talk about movies on the internet. That is a bigger demographic than the audience for Ant-Man 3
>The trolls will have it that nobody gives a shit and they can’t remember the characters’ names or one damn thing that happened in the movie
For a guy who likes to deep sea dive he should seems to crack under pressure
>N-no! You're just p-pretending it was forgettable and y-you don't actually remember anything!!! SHUT UP!!
lmao looks like i was right in doubting Cameron, the old hack is finished
How long has the science fiction genre for movies been dead? A decade? 20 years? More?
When will these boomers move on or die or just frick off. They make irredeemable shit and have been doing this for what seems like ages at this point.
$1 billion worldwide, but just barely.
It sure as shit won't get the $2.6 billion the original made, and it's all Cameron's fault for shelving it to keep it out of the way of the SW sequel trilogy and the MCU. He made that deal with Disney, so now Disney's gonna frick him for it.
>Cameron's fault for shelving it to keep it out of the way of the SW sequel trilogy and the MCU. He made that deal with Disney
He did? I thought he was just waiting until the tech would catch up to his intentions, namely underwater mocap
Maybe he'll make a cool antagonist like the one on Terminator 2.
What I'm worried about is the kids. I don't know how they'll flesh out each of them adequately in just under 3 hours. There's already a ton of convolution plot wise >jake and ney's family moving >new tribe and whatever their involvement is >RDA back at it >Quaritch looking for revenge >4 kids plus one of them is human so that'd a whole different approach and another is Grace reincarnate >plot line evolving Lo'ak and the Tulkun
I don't know, I have this bad feeling it'll turn out a mess, even if some of these intertwines perfectly. I'm afraid Cameron's flawless sequel spell is about to finally give in
I will see Kinotar 2 just for the special effects while stoned off my ass. The first one blew my mind in movie theaters, even if the movie itself was kinda weak the battles with flying lizards and mech suits was kino
> the battles with flying lizards and mech suits was kino
It wasn’t. Everyone dies except jake who randomly pops out by himself. 0 strategy just a Zerg rush and the end.
I really hope they reference how jake lead all the clans to their deaths and only he and neytiri survived. And now there’s like a billion less navi warriors
considering Jake and Neyney are rooming around with their family and that the humans are well established on Pandora I think the omaticaya might have taken a heavy toll by avatar 2. They're probably the ones in space with Jake in the high ground and live at hell's gate by the end of avatar 1.
So they might very well make a point that he has a devastating effect due to leading all the attacks
I saw Avatar with my best (female) friend and crush in high school. Angry trannies can't take that fond memory away from me, and I will be seeing The Way of Water thrice
Genuine question, if they started working on this ~10 years ago how do they keep up with the technological advancements that have happened since then? The "WOW" factor isn't going to be there like it was with the first one considering games have already hit the realistic limit.
60M domestic
900M international
Opening weekend
I genuinely don’t see a lot of hype for it.
Avatar hate and fatigue is vastly overrepresented online, the audience this movie is for are foreigners and people who don't go to the movies often enough to talk about movies on the internet. That is a bigger demographic than the audience for Ant-Man 3
>foreigners and people who don't go to the movies often enough to talk about movies on the internet
So perfect content for Cinemaphile in 2022 then.
I don't think you understand what novelty means, people who don't go often to the movies went to see avatar because of the crazy good special fx and partly due to the 3D mania. That's all old news now, and the only thing "new" about the sequel will be the underwater mocap and greatly improved water cg (yawn). It doesn't have the same appeal. Realistically I don't even see it making a billie.
Ask any normie dipshit or filmbro what their top 3 best experiences in a theater with 3D and they will say Avatar every time. It's been 13 years since the last movie, it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy. Tobey Maguire walking onto a shitty greenscreen doesn't bring in 2 billion dollars before 2020.
Avatar is also now owned by Disney, a conglomerate that controls the critical reception of their products the way Wall Street owned the credit rating agencies before the subprime crash. Do you really think the Mouse is going to somehow fail to make a followup the highest grossing movie ever directed by a guy who only makes hits part of the cultural zeitgeist?
>t. pic related
This. Its james cameron x disney. Anyone thinking this wont be a smash hit is fricking moronic
>it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy.
No one has nostalgia for avatar. No one cares about the characters or story. Imagine thinking anyone is looking forward to avatar the same way they were looking forward to seeing Spider-Man in NWH
Who the frick had nostalgia for Andrew Garfield's terrible movies until Disney told them to? You're vastly underestimating how pliable a general audience is. Again, if you think Disney is not going psyop this shit into being a lifetime event for every dumbass you know you're moronic
>Who the frick had nostalgia for Andrew Garfield's terrible movies until Disney told them to?
People only liked Garfield after the movie. The hype before it’s release was all about seeing Tobey again and having multiple Spider-Man interact. You can’t do the same thing with Avatar, Jake Scully was never the reason people liked the first one
People said the same thing about Top Gun but Maverick ended up doing extremely well
>no one has nostalgia for Top Gun
You are a moron.
Top Gun had Tom Cruise and the dad audience.
You utter pleb, there's literally NO appeal that makes this standout. The only possible claim to fame it has is being nostalgia bait for a movie barely anyone cares for outside of "oh yeah the blue cat people thing". And Disney's grapple can only go so far, even it isn't enough to propel a movie that's likely doing under 500M worldwide to 2 Billion. And Cameron's star power is practically null today, boomers don't care for movies anymore and zoomers have no clue who he is
Do you ever get sick of trolling
Disprove one point I made, you're sounding like Cameron yourself by calling every slight and obvious criticism "trolling". Get a fricking grip, not nearly as many people you think care about dances with wolves in space
Boomers don't care about movies meanwhile Top Gun 2 is going to pull 600m domestic. and holy shit americans are one thing but if you think asiatics and pajeets are not going to see the American movie that defined their entire market for the last ten years you're helpless
Boomers went to Top Cuck: MAGArick because they're mostly white and as such infatuated with the media "race bashing", and it's rare nowadays that a movie glorifies war (which appeals greatly to boomers). Literally the only movie that could've garnered their interest.
Avatar on the other hand is more than anything a pacifist movie with a hippie message. Boomers hate that stuff, and they already saw the first installment, so the awe over the graphics has already been checked off. It's bound to fail. And there aren't any guarantees China won't block its showing, in fact, it's more than likely it will
>a pacifist movie with a hippie message. Boomers hate that stuff
You are truly moronic.
Bro, Boomers like dumb action more than anything. They’ll see military guys shooting in the trailers and that’ll be enough to draw them in
They were hippies who opposed war though, so boomers are a weird dichotomy where they want war movies, but anything that reminds them of smoking weed in the middle of the desert is also acceptable. They're also more simple minded so anything pinned as a 'big budget blockbuster movie,' that doesn't seem too new to them they'll go see. Avatar has the common themes and conventions they're used to, so if they're not all dead by the time Cameron finally releases it they might go see it on mass.
>under 500M worldwide
If you actually believe this then you are delusional to the point of mental illness
>it's legacy sequel nostalgia bait which is absolutely trendy
tf are you babbling about nobody has 'nostalgia' for Avatar. Are you high?
>part of the cultural zeitgeist?
13 years and a mountain of hype. It was the Clinton campaign of franchises. They had every resource at their disposal but still couldn't make it happen because Avatar is just a bad. fricking. concept. Nobody wants to watch blue smurf cat aliens in a derivitve "going native" story. Sorry. Had he come out the gate with yet another hero's journey then maybe. Play it safe and maybe the franchise would have had a chance and overcome the technically-brilliant but aesthetically unappealing visuals (and the terrible casting, etc) but Jimbo didn't play it safe nor did he take risks, he just told a rather sub-optimal story that when combined with everything else that's wrong with that first film, doomed it to irrelevance.
Just look at this shit. I wouldn't call it uncanny valley, but it's a very offputting aesthetic.
>Nobody watches it
Earns 2 billion. Its like saying Titanic was massive bomb.
>Avatar is equivalent to Titanic
Imagine unironically believing this.
>Never said it was. Just the numbers. Royal Ocean Film Society has a YT entry on it that explains the phenomenon.
>Nobody wants to watch blue smurf cat aliens in a derivitve "going native" story. Sorry.
Totally agree. We wanted to see a movie about the marines, not the blue smurfs.
Avatar is one of the most hated movies of all time.
>source: trust me bro
Objectively false, the reason the first one made so much money was because of great word of mouth. It gave it strong legs. It’s not that people hate it, it’s just that it became forgettable in the eyes of people
>because of great word of mouth.
>t. zoomer who wasn't there
It was massively hyped by the media. There was no "word of mouth" because everyone who saw it just shrugged and moved on. It wasn't really "hated" until much later when people got over their embarrassment at being duped by the media to see a moronic 3D blue cat cartoon. It was parodied pretty heavily right away though. Everyone knew it sucked and was a massive disappointment.
NTA but in your own words you admit that Avatar could be turned into a hit by controlling the media.
Do you have any substantial argument that Disney is not in a position to just do that again? On what planet do we not get a bunch of rotten tomatoes tier critics saying "GUH WOWZERS IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL"? and everyone seeing it anyway because Top Gun Maverick is the only good blockbuster that's come out since the last Tom Cruise movie
>NTA but in your own words you admit that Avatar could be turned into a hit by controlling the media.
No I didn't
>Do you have any substantial argument that Disney is not in a position to just do that again?
The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
>On what planet do we not get a bunch of rotten tomatoes tier critics saying "GUH WOWZERS IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL"?
No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional.
>No I didn't
>"It was massively hyped by the media"
>"duped by the media"
you're so moronic it isn't worth the (You)
and LOL anon the burden is not on me for explaining why a sequel to the highest grossing movie ever coming out when the only movies that make money are sequels, is going to make money. That burden is on you dipshit
Explain why this "media hit" that is a much-anticipated sequel has made no cultural impact in the years since it's been out. Answer: it wasn't a hit. It was a scam. The media tricked people into a seeing a shitty movie.
>The burden is on you, you made the claim
No u
>what Cinemaphile does to a mf
If you hate this place just leave, zoomer.
>>no cultural impact
>every single blockbuster for the last 13 years lazily post-converted into 3D just to capture a fraction of the memory audiences have of it being done right
>launched 3D TVS that sold for ten years one the hype of one movie
>launched premium theaters worldwide
>shifted all of hollywood over to targeting foreign markets forever
Oh wait, you only measure "cultural impact" by how many homosexuals dress up as a blue cat for comic-con, not by realigning a billion dolllar industry
It’s the highest grossing movie ever but can you really say it has the same cultural impact as movies like Jaws, Star Wars, or Jurassic Park? Those films are iconic, Avatar isn’t. It’s not bigger then the Avengers movies either. It never penetrated pop culture or the minds of public
>Jaws
lmao ZERO cultural impact too my dude, when was the last time you saw someone reference it? That's what I thought
>Star Wars
Only relevance it has was money hungry disney latching onto it and spitting new shows almost weekly to justify the billions it spent on the IP, other than that (since the prequels were such a disappointment) it had little to no cultural relevance until very recently
>Jurasic Park
Apart from memes and the trex what else is there
>Star Wars
has a national holiday and the biggest movie fan base
>Jaws
iterally changed the way people view the ocean and sharks. It’s music is parodied constantly
>Jurassic Park
is what comes to mind when everyone thinks of dinos
Avatar made stereoscopic 3D a permanent fixture in movies. It's been overshadowed by Avengers making serialized shared universe multiverse successful but Avatar 2 is coming out at a time when the Marvel shit is convoluted and stuffed with homework tier tv shows.
Avatar has a basic ass story that any idiot can remember before going into the next one. The fact that after ten years everyone knows what you're talking about when you say "blue cat movie" or "space pocahontas" means that yes, it has stuck around and it's not going to be a difficult job for Disney to market it.
Avatar influenced Martin Scorcese and Jean Luc Godard to make a 3D movie. How's that for influence?
You're right. I'm not taking into consideration the utter delusions in your head, zoomer troony.
>No I didn't
Yea you did
>The burden of making that argument is on you. It's not up to other people to "disprove" your utter ass-pull theories for why 'this time it'll be different'. It's on you. You're making the assertion.
lmao you're not nearly as smart as you think you are pal. The burden is on you, you made the claim
>No one actually pays attention to critics anymore or care what they think. You are delusional
once again, wrong. what Cinemaphile does to a mf i stg
>No word of mouth
My shithole country made it popular via Facebook and they made the DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS MOVIE event. Was even in two minds whether to see it or not. Its the peer pressure movie of 2009 just like Endgame.
I remember people talking to each other about *going* to see it but basically nobody talked about it after (apart from mocking it on the internet in the weeks/months later)
Everyone did that. Its why Hurt Locker won the Best Picture.
Difference being James Cameron's ex wife made a good movie with Hurt Locker. Avatar was not a good movie. Maybe that's why Jimbo is seething.
Dumb shill
Truth. After its original release, millennials rip it apart.
This may be true but that audience still isn't gonna care about 3D and paying extra for it like they did in 2009.
It might be a big success but there's no way it comes anywhere close to the original
$500m domestic $2 bil worldwide
>rivaling the success of the novelty first installment
delusional
see
do people even want a sequel?
$1 bil domestic
$2 bil worldwide
$3
Prediction: no one will care
That’s what they said about Matrix Resurrection
500M in America because there's no Black folk in it
2B worldwide
3 billion
6 billion
6 trillion
Who cares, all the profits will go to Disney anyway
>The trolls will have it that nobody gives a shit and they can’t remember the characters’ names or one damn thing that happened in the movie
For a guy who likes to deep sea dive he should seems to crack under pressure
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/james-cameron-avatar-trolls-see-movie-shut-the-f-up-exclusive/
>N-no! You're just p-pretending it was forgettable and y-you don't actually remember anything!!! SHUT UP!!
lmao looks like i was right in doubting Cameron, the old hack is finished
>james-cameron-avatar-trolls-see-movie-shut-the-f-up-exclusive/
>see-movie-shut-the-f-up
lol
>For a guy who likes to deep sea dive he should seems to crack under pressure
3 billy
>i will start: 600 million
for opening weekend worldwide? Sounds about right.
50 billies
One million dollars
james is desperate it feels
even more after the minions
100m us
200m ww
chinese mao great recut, 200m
>normal people, but blue
This, why the frick did it make so much money in the first place
>Avatar 2: Smurfing Boogaloo
Imagine actually caring
3.5 billion, possibly closer to 4
What’s up with the Euro Centric body types? Where’s the fat guts, nat geo tiddies and plus sized bottoms. There better at least LGBTQ blue people.
Avatar actually way ahead of its time in the culture war bullshit because it's about a disabled guy transitioning and changing his identity
No it's about disgusting body appropriation, literally a rape
/s
My prediction is $1.2Billion global.
I'm transgender and I hate avatar
How can that be, avatar is literally a trans analogy
It reminds them and taunts them with what they can never have
CONFIRMED AVATAR HATERS ARE troonyS
Show breasts.
I don't know but I'm giving it at least a hundred to see it five times.
New Zealand is going to pay good money to have Hollywood continue making their blockbusters there
OP here, let's switch up the topic a bit.
What will its rotten tomatoes/imdb score be? My guess is RT: 79%, imdb: 7.5
890 mill domestic
3.8 billion worldwide
Screen cap this
500M domestic
1.2B International
OH NO NO NO NO
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/james-cameron-says-he-might-pass-the-baton-to-not-direct-avatar-4-and-5-himself/ar-AAZdR7m
lmao looks like he's realizing the films are turning to shit so he's looking to shift the blame as early as possible
No, if Avatar 2 or 3 turned to shit then the question of who directs 4 or 5 would be a moot point since they wouldn't get made at all.
Not really, you think Disney wouldn't try to halfass it to rake in about half a billion with good marketing?
How long has the science fiction genre for movies been dead? A decade? 20 years? More?
When will these boomers move on or die or just frick off. They make irredeemable shit and have been doing this for what seems like ages at this point.
Kubrick killed it with 2001. Tarkovsky too.
I consider myself a sci fi fan but but I haven't enjoyed any sci fi made in the last 20 years.
$1 billion worldwide, but just barely.
It sure as shit won't get the $2.6 billion the original made, and it's all Cameron's fault for shelving it to keep it out of the way of the SW sequel trilogy and the MCU. He made that deal with Disney, so now Disney's gonna frick him for it.
>Cameron's fault for shelving it to keep it out of the way of the SW sequel trilogy and the MCU. He made that deal with Disney
He did? I thought he was just waiting until the tech would catch up to his intentions, namely underwater mocap
He didn't, that's headcanon
This will make 2.5 billion to 3 billion and you will all seethe again that based Jimmy does it again.
it will literally make audiences heads explode
>literally
The sequel, from what I've seen, actually looks interesting unlike the first film. Making the army guy an avatar, but evil, seems like a cool idea.
Maybe he'll make a cool antagonist like the one on Terminator 2.
What I'm worried about is the kids. I don't know how they'll flesh out each of them adequately in just under 3 hours. There's already a ton of convolution plot wise
>jake and ney's family moving
>new tribe and whatever their involvement is
>RDA back at it
>Quaritch looking for revenge
>4 kids plus one of them is human so that'd a whole different approach and another is Grace reincarnate
>plot line evolving Lo'ak and the Tulkun
I don't know, I have this bad feeling it'll turn out a mess, even if some of these intertwines perfectly. I'm afraid Cameron's flawless sequel spell is about to finally give in
I will see Kinotar 2 just for the special effects while stoned off my ass. The first one blew my mind in movie theaters, even if the movie itself was kinda weak the battles with flying lizards and mech suits was kino
> the battles with flying lizards and mech suits was kino
It wasn’t. Everyone dies except jake who randomly pops out by himself. 0 strategy just a Zerg rush and the end.
I really hope they will reference the fact that Neytiri rode on a thanator in the sequels
I really hope they reference how jake lead all the clans to their deaths and only he and neytiri survived. And now there’s like a billion less navi warriors
considering Jake and Neyney are rooming around with their family and that the humans are well established on Pandora I think the omaticaya might have taken a heavy toll by avatar 2. They're probably the ones in space with Jake in the high ground and live at hell's gate by the end of avatar 1.
So they might very well make a point that he has a devastating effect due to leading all the attacks
>Kinotar 2
It will be shit
have a nice day troony
I’m only interested in the deep sea technology. I really hope the effects live up to the hype
They won't, you'll still feel like you're watching a movie
If the visuals are as mind blowing as the first one it will make over 2 billion. But we won't know until someone sees it in IMAX
I watched Avatar 13 times in my Kinoplex. I will watch Avatar 2 at least 22 times.
This movie doesn't need any marketing. People will just straight up go to the theater to see it once they hear about Avatar 2. We're coming home
Ikeyni NEEDS to be in the sequels
>She will never ask you to help her apply paint to the places on her body that she can't see or reach.
someone has to do it
Did they use a brush of bare fingers? Did it tickle? Did she giggle while being painted?
na'vi use their fingers to paint, although it would seem like they avoided the most ticklish areas of the body
I saw Avatar with my best (female) friend and crush in high school. Angry trannies can't take that fond memory away from me, and I will be seeing The Way of Water thrice
Genuine question, if they started working on this ~10 years ago how do they keep up with the technological advancements that have happened since then? The "WOW" factor isn't going to be there like it was with the first one considering games have already hit the realistic limit.
James Cameron surpassed modern technology 10 years ago obviously, have you ever seen a kino..UNDERWATER?
I can imagine it, I can also imagine the kino's he could have been making instead of spending all this time on cgi homosexualry
Dubs and it's bad enough that all the sequels get cancelled even though they're in production
Avatarbros we're still winning
Dubs and Cameron dies before way of water comes out, Disney takes over and ruins everything forever for everyone
this still counts lmao RIP Cameron, sorry avatargays