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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that the scene at the start with Eg was never meant to be in it
    Producers forced them to do it since they were confused why it wasn't more obvious that JAck was the hero and Wang was his sidekick
    Despite it being the exact opposite

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      asiaticlet cope

      Whose on the cover of posters, VHS/DVD covers, etc.? It's Kurt Russell. He's the star attraction. He didn't want to tag along in the crazy mixed-up Chinese sorcery; he just wanted his dosh and truck.

      And what proves that Jack Burton was his own man was that he didn't even settle down with the girl in the end. He went back on the road and gave zero fricks to Gracie. He was a lone wolf and lived by his own rules. Yeah the chink rescued his mail-order bride (she was hot as frick btw) so he won in the end too, but if it weren't for Jack, none of those would've been possible. Don't forget it was Jack and his knife throwing that killed Loh Pan.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >huuuuuuh?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >asiaticlet cope
        Carpenter pointed out what

        Daily reminder that the scene at the start with Eg was never meant to be in it
        Producers forced them to do it since they were confused why it wasn't more obvious that JAck was the hero and Wang was his sidekick
        Despite it being the exact opposite

        said on the movie's audio commentary. 20th Century Fox wanted John to insert that opening scene to make it clearer to the audience what was going on, you fricking moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always thought it was interesting to have Kurt Russel play this minor side character. Usually a movie does more with a gimmick like that, but I guess they just wanted to save some money on casting.

      go back

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Despite it being the exact opposite
      I've seen this movie many times and yes jack can be an idiot at times but he also felt like the lead he even kills Lo Pan.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What? Jack was the supernatural Guan Yu esque superwarrior deuteragonist to Wang's Liu Bei

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice take

        I like that the image of Jack as being this kind of living "tall tale" is worked into his aesthetic, with the long rambling trucker speeches that are more traveling myth than person, just going from place to place and having all sorts of ridiculous adventures, meanwhile the man himself is quite simple. It's like he's charmed, it's not so much that he deserves to be the hero everywhere he goes, he's just the kind of guy who's simply too dumb to die.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      asiaticlet cope

      Whose on the cover of posters, VHS/DVD covers, etc.? It's Kurt Russell. He's the star attraction. He didn't want to tag along in the crazy mixed-up Chinese sorcery; he just wanted his dosh and truck.

      And what proves that Jack Burton was his own man was that he didn't even settle down with the girl in the end. He went back on the road and gave zero fricks to Gracie. He was a lone wolf and lived by his own rules. Yeah the chink rescued his mail-order bride (she was hot as frick btw) so he won in the end too, but if it weren't for Jack, none of those would've been possible. Don't forget it was Jack and his knife throwing that killed Loh Pan.

      >wherever I go I must be a tribeshitter pleb
      Jack Burton was a comical, partially incompetent semi-hero. Jack Burton also saved the day and got the girl in the end (didn't even want 'er) through good old fashioned American gumption. Both of these things are true.

      Kim Cattrall is a master of passionate face acting. You can literally hear the fire burning in her loins.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Been watching this movie for decades and only now after watching that did I realize he is >literally me because I say this shit to women now when they try to get close after sex.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking love Carpenter, I mean 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Thing is the best sci-fi horror movie of all time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >webms you can hear

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Him casually saying "no" and walking away makes me laugh every time. Also when he shoots the ceiling and the rocks knock him out. Goddamnit I love this movie so much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do people get hung up on this?
      The movie works exactly the same whether you think Jack is the protag or sidekick.
      It's a fish out of water story no matter what.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares? It's a great scene for Eg Shen since it introduces him as a badass Chinese sorcerer rather than just some literally who.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does nobody appreciate kino

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought it was interesting to have Kurt Russel play this minor side character. Usually a movie does more with a gimmick like that, but I guess they just wanted to save some money on casting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      surely thou jest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ahhh you got me!

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Burtons knife was a Blackie Collins Tac II.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Loved this scene, Blade Runner was such a good movie

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AND HE JUST STANDS THERE WAITIN' FOR ME TO DRIVE MY TRUCK STRAIGHT THROUGH HIM, WITH LIGHT COMIN' OUT OF HIS MOUTH?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In a movie with a hundred memorable lines this is my favorite

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        for me it's
        Gee I dunno Wang why don't we chew our way out!
        it's just the way he says it and the look on his face

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like when he's rescuing Gracie and she asks "what's the plan?" and he says "I have NO idea." Also "When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: 'Have ya paid your dues, Jack?' 'Yessir, the check is in the mail.'"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >who?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I ever frick something up I blame it on my mind and my spirit going north and south.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I need to start dropping lines like this to people to find fellow kino enjoyers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you don't quote obscure movies already? I've been doing it for years. it's a good way to see who recognises the lines and it makes me feel kino as well when they don't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whenever I have to make a toast I always use
        >May the wings of liberty never lose a feather

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Excuse me Madam, I'd really like to insert my erect penis into a CHINK WITH GREEN EYES!!!!

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's the sequel:

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are actual sequel comics. There is even a comic where Jack Burton meets Snake Plissken

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kurt a cute.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gimme your best shot, pal. I can take it.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the commentary by both Carpenter and Russel confirm that Jack is the secondary character and not the hero
    >this is even a joke about how stupid people are and didn't realize it, like the producers who forced the opening scene in
    >Cinemaphile once again doesn't understand the movie

    I guess they didn't have the six demon bag

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to guess it's the chink wizard if it's not jack?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is Wang Chi's rescue the princess story, pal

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ah. I can't be mad at a film like Big Trouble in Little China for filtering me

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's both at the same time. Director commentary doesn't mean as much to me as it does to some; not even the creators have total ownership of the ideas that make it into the lasting story that exists in the public consciousness, and there is much that goes into a creative work that comes from places we can't consciously articulate.

          Jack Burton is a central character who gets caught up in a legend that is bigger than him, that concerns other people more than it does him. He's "secondary" to Wang Chi within the context of this narrative, but he is also concurrently undergoing his own heroic arc that is distinctly western. As suggested here

          nice take

          I like that the image of Jack as being this kind of living "tall tale" is worked into his aesthetic, with the long rambling trucker speeches that are more traveling myth than person, just going from place to place and having all sorts of ridiculous adventures, meanwhile the man himself is quite simple. It's like he's charmed, it's not so much that he deserves to be the hero everywhere he goes, he's just the kind of guy who's simply too dumb to die.

          Jack is "charmed", he grumbles, he complains, he swears financial motivation, but like any western monomyth hero is compelled to do the heroic thing without there ever being any doubt he would. This empty-headed innocence makes him the perfect vessel through which the spirits of fortune can do their work. There's a reason Link has a fairy pal. There's a reason Ivanushka gets the blessing of Father Mushroom. Jack Burton brings the adventure the critical component it was missing that allows it to transcend the static framework put forth by Lo Pan. The endeavor as a whole succeeds due to its successful fusion of eastern and western ideals. The ultimate "hero" of the film is neither just Jack nor Wang, it's Jack and Wang teaming up. Jack isn't just some guy who stumbled onto the scene- He's some guy who stumbled onto the scene in a destined and spiritually significant way.

          One of the reasons this movie is so excellent because it's the kind of film where all of these influences come to together, some intentional, some subconscious, and combine to create a whole that really is more than the sum of its parts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He's "secondary" to Wang Chi within the context of this narrative, but he is also concurrently undergoing his own heroic arc that is distinctly western.
            Yeah Wang Chi is the destined pauper rescuing the destined princess. Jack is a traveling folk hero that stumbled upon this story also it's his perspective the movie follows.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So, that make Jack or Wang hero? I confused

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The real hero is the friends we made along the way

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dennis was good in this despite not being a big name

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Terrific, Six Demon Bag - sensational what's in it Anon?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its my favorite commentary track. Really just the two bullshitting the entire time. My next favorite it Bubba-Hotep commentary 3.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    was he an incel?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. That's how he obtained his wizard powers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I put on my robe and

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. That's how he obtained his wizard powers.

      lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This homie has been playing the bad chinese guy for like 40 years. Him and the guy that played Shang Tsung.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who the hell are you anyway?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SEINFELD
      FOUR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he just make eyes!

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hear funny things.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DIABEETUS

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every time a thread is made about this autists need to run and say "HE WASN'T THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!!!" like this is some secret only they know and not the defining point of the movie. You aren't smart. We all know this

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While we're on the subject, Lo Pan's motif @ 1:08 is my favorite musical thing Carpenter's done

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >baby boomers like Carpenter and Spielberg make "culturally insensitive" classics like this and Temple of Doom only years later to kick the ladder down and call you racist if you do the same thing
    I hate boomers so much its unreal. I can't even imagine how bad that remake of this movie starring The Rock would have been

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When the hell did Carpenter ever say something like that? Fun fact: John hired just about every Asian actor in Hollywood to fill out that huge cast of supporting characters. This was among many films in the 80s/90s that made my naive Millennial ass think we were post-race in our culture, until the corpos doubled down after OWS. Oh anons what could have been.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know Spielberg shat on Temple, but has Carpenter ever shat on Big Trouble for being "racist"?

        He didn't. I think he is right wing actually. I misspoke I was making a general statement about Hollywood gatekeeping and how we can't do the same things they did to get popular.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I made shit up to get myself mad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        did you know the word corpos was used on Cinemaphile only a handful of times in the past
        https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/CORPOS/end/2016-01-01/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know Spielberg shat on Temple, but has Carpenter ever shat on Big Trouble for being "racist"?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because there's nothing negative about the depictions of the chinese in big trouble while temple has a lot of stereotypes i'm a hyper contrarian and Doom's my favorite of the indie movies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doom is an excellent film and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I refuse to respect anyone who says it was "too dark" when Raidres was about Nazis trying to take over the world and ended with a grotesque slaughter by demonic ghosts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Doom is the favorite of anyone who watched these as a probably too young kid (which is who these were made for)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I grew up with The Temple of Doom and it's definitely my favorite (I'm early 40's).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I grew up IN the temple of doom and i had to ride those stupid rollercoaster carts until I puked every day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are "desi aunties"as sexually voracious as the internet would have me believe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                like you wouldn't believe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >because there's nothing negative about the depictions of the chinese in big trouble
          >ghosts and magic
          >everyone knows how to fight
          >the old chinese guy talks like a Chinese stereotype
          look none of that bothered me and there was nothing wrong with that but this is what they will say and complain about. The same shit they say about like Speedy Gonzalez or Apu. Unless the Chinese characters act like soulless lesbians from California who are always on top and better than whitey they b***h.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >1st and 2nd gen chinese immigrants aren't allowed to have accents
            >mythology shouldn't be depicted at all
            >literal gangs shouldn't know how to fight
            Anyone who complains is gay in the pejorative and probably has wealthy parents

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon you are looking at this wrong. I know there is nothing wrong about it. A sane person wouldn't see anything wrong with it. But we don't live in sane times. Just look at the press around Shang Chi and how it was such a big deal regarding the asian cast and the "respect" it showed. Also the gangs had a street fight with Asian blades and hand to hand kung fu. That alone would trigger them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but those aren't humans

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder what intelligent black women think about every black female onscreen being a lifeless monotonous wet blanket bereft of interesting character traits. It's one thing to roll back some of that sassy sista stuff, but come on. Black women aren't allowed to be fun anymore.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They love it. It's not a stereotype either. Just look at any press conference Mayor Tiffany Henyard is part of. She's a rabbit hole to get into if you know nothing about her. She does the "um hmmmm" shit over and over during conferences.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Did you go on a trip to Las Vegas?"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Speedy Gonzalez
            Mexicans love Looney Tunes and Speedy Gonzalez. He always out-smarted his foes.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything John Carpenter made was kino. Even schlock like Assault on Precinct 13 was kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >schlock like Assault on Precinct 13
      It's not schlock.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dies of a heart attack the day after 9/11 while waiting for news of his sons who were in New York

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      were his sons ok?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Well, until they learned their dad had died, I guess.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sons have an aneurysm upon hearing the news their dad died
          the viscous cycle continues...

          also on an unrelated note I cant believe I actually spelled aneurysm correctly without looking it up 🙂

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I cant believe I actually spelled aneurysm correctly without looking it up 🙂
            Gonna turn that smile upside down when you notice you fricked up "vicious" though"

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              🙁

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no no, you meant a thick, sticky cycle that's difficult to get through! it was intentional!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good job anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            B A S E D

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they were in Northern Canada

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing I like about BTILC is that other than Kurt Russell it's just a bunch of literally who actors. I also like how it took a realistic look at Chinese people who live in the US (obviously not the magic shit). I have Chinese friends who love this movie to death and there was no pandering or anti white shit or pro Chinese shit. It was like how normal people from two different cultures living in the US would react. That scene where he asks the guy what the Chinese words on the door say and the Chinese guy says "Hell of burning oils....nah just kidding it says Emergency exit" or something to that effect was perfect in this regard. It was to quote the blacks, a real ass movie and I grew up in a diverse hell hole blue state but that's how the Chinese spoke and acted that were born here.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am glad they never made a sequel like Escape from New York. It never would have recaptured the magic. Perfect one and done.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm glad duane johnson never remade it like he threatened to do for so many years

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    damn this thread is making me want to binge rewatch every Carpenter kino

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's one of the first decent threads I've seen for a while and is having the same effect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watch They Live and In the Mouth of Madness.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this is my favorite movie
    >play it for my ex
    >she doesnt like it
    >play it for my female employees
    >only 1 out of 5 of them like it
    >play it for my new gf
    >she thinks its just "pretty good"

    are women just naturally tasteless?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only interest my gf had with the movie was "Wow is that Kim Catrall? She looks so young"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My mom likes it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've noticed they might enjoy a small handful of decent films. my ex really enjoyed watching predator but 90% of stuff she wouldn't even entertain the idea of watching it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My gf claims it’s her favorite.
      Don’t know if I would go so far as to agree but I think it’s at least my favorite Carpenter movie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Thing is his best.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I disagree. Still an excellent movie (and the greatest horror movie of all time)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Which Carpenter movie is better, homosexual?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              read the reply chain gayboy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Big Trouble in Little China, In the Mouth of Madness, They Live are objectively great but not better than The Thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My wife likes it
      I've showed it to three buddies over the course of my life, none of them liked it. My friends may be gays

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My wife loves it. My dad hates it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't get to have characters like Delores anymore even though I work with such a woman. And she's fun to talk to.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This picture just made me realize the guy from the thing also played the father in that sky high movie

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's the Fighting Tongs, they're the good guys Jack!
    >These organizations are described as secret societies or sworn brotherhoods and are often tied to criminal activity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_(organization)
    Uhhhh

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my second favorite Carpenter movie
    >b-but its boring and takes 20 minutes to start
    dont care
    >b-but his other movies are better
    wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember absolute hating this the first time I watched, mainly because like you said it takes 20+ minutes to actually start. Then I rewatched a few years later and now it's probably my 3rd favourite Carpenter kino after The Thing and Big Trouble in Little China

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when one is so insecure 80% of your post is taken up with preemptively deflecting potential criticisms of your personal opinion

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why did he do it bros
      why did he make such a shitty movie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why did he do it bros
      why did he make such a shitty movie

      Honestly. Legitimately. Unironically. What the FRICK was he thinking?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Had a good concept, if I recall wasn't there some studio frickery going on trying to force Ice Cube in more scenes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i felt my first sweater puppies while ghosts of mars was on the Cinemaphile so by default it's my favorite

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And I don't wanna hear "Act of God" alright

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does that mean, huh? "China is here" I don't even know what the hell that means

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hold it hold it slow down. I feel a little like an outsider here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody relax, I'm here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YOU ARE

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just watched this earlier today, what a coincidence.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How did this film flop? it's raw unfiltered kino

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We may be trapped.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HIDE

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only good bit from Escape From LA

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