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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel's acting is on completely another level while the stage play is kinda off like the actors can't find the right timing with each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you kidding?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stage acting is very different
      you have to overact and project your voice in a very unnatural theatrical way
      a movie can have a normal conversation

      so it's comparing apples to oranges

      [...]

      axse them about it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Denzel's version is a lot more natural. JEJ is chewing the frick out of the scenery but it could be because of what said.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jones is angrier and sterner, Washington nicer
          But Jones's rage gives credence to the soliloquy - he's on his soapbox for a reason - Washington spits out these long lines on cue as if it was nothing, therefore seems more artificial

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks, the explanation is needed for someone like me who has never watched theater

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you should really try to go see a broadway show at some point, the performances in a play are more absorbing than in a movie, and broadway actors are the best in the world. They frankly put Hollywood to shame. The musicals are really fun too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >broadway actors are the best in the world

            sure thing

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just see Morf in Rings of Power to prove how wrong "muh classically trained actors" is a stupid meme. It's just failed theater actors trying to validate themselves

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              in my opinion the quality of performance on a broadway stage is superior at least to anything else on this continent

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Denzel's acting is on completely another level while the stage play is kinda off like the actors can't find the right timing with each other.

          ?t=1622
          my personal favorite stage acting on film

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice, here's my personal favorite stage acting on film

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stage acting is superior, when it's actually good, because it has so much more energy and pathos. Also it necessitates a greater skill in the acting. In cinema actors are constantly cheating with the camera so they don't look ridiculous.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If denzel was doing that on a stage it would will be better. You're insane if you think he isn't projecting his voice.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Good stage acting is also a lot more difficult. you have to be able to find that emotion every single time without mistake whereas in film you have a near indefinite amount of attempts to reach that point.
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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you are moronic, son

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah Denzel is mogging here. He actually makes you feel the shame he's trying to put into the kid. Jones sounds like he's still in rehearsal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JEJ is extremely traditional dad. Denzel is a florid, maybe ex-gangbanger version of a "traditionalist" concept.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Denzel is great actor but the character is supposed to be a hot head and his performance was way too mellow. Felt like he was just phoning it in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Denzel's diction is all fricked up. He doesn't punctuate his sentences like a person does. He runs on and on slurring them together.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He sounds like someone reciting memorized lines in the mirror before the actual scene.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he tries too hard to act with his voice but his face doesn't change. it feels like he isn't talking to the kid but rather to the camera.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Denzel is trying too hard to be 'charismatic', when the character isn't.
      Denzel says stuff with a grin, when the character is basically humorless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Denzel's acting is on completely another level while the stage play is kinda off like the actors can't find the right timing with each oth-ACK

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy kino

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is terrible parenting; love and affection are a human need, and he characterises his son as a burden he dutifully puts up with, ruining his confidence, making him question his worth. "I don't let you die of exposure or starvation" isn't laudable; the son didn't choose life, the father did. He's also clearly intimidated by his own father, and here in the moment where he tries to connect with intimacy, he more or less gets frightened again and told he's not owed affection. This will create hidden resentment and more or less forces the son to suppress this resentment in his interactions with him, only causing it to build over time. But don't worry, he busts his butt!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're acting like there's some kind of adulation or expectation that the father is supposed to be commended. There is not, this is him being in the wrong and showing he doesn't give a frick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that's good, I always assumed this was being praised

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But denzel is in the right, sure he's a hypocrite for not being able to become the good husband that his wife is owed, but it does not make what he said in the speech any less true. This scene is supposed to be the standard by which denzel's flawed character is juxtaposed against

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's flawed because his approach is just going to turn his son into him, a bitter failure.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree, outside of any further context just that scene in a vacuum, I'd say that was pretty okay. Firm enough to instill filial fear but not so much that it makes you look cold and robotic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >do as i say not as i do
          no

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes he is a hypocrite thank you for agreeing with me

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              and you’re a sassy little homosexual too!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and that makes you a dumb gaygoo!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frick u niqqa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tell that to my dad...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sorry anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're right, i think that is what they were going for

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >love and affection are a human need

      So what does that make you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A person

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not by your own metric, it doesn't, because no one could give a frick about a Cinemaphile shitposter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I understand we're on the humiliation website/machine and that makes you feel cool and invulnerable but you shouldn't carry that with you after you log off

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This. Most folk here talking shit just do it for a joke because they are anonymous. When in person they act far more reserved.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      youre clearly not a parent. The mother is the affectionate one. The father is the hard one. Its his job and children are better of for it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You want to know how I know you got your idea of fatherhood from American (aka israeli) TV? If your Dad intimidates you more than he loves you something is wrong and it will bear consequences; it also makes one less secure, not more secure

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. troony seething
          A father should be intimidating, to a point. Its literally part of being a grown man.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw your son thats 2 inches taller than you and can bench 4 plates has to pretend hes remotely intimidated by you

            ?si=0tPz3tad3aMqtP2O
            again, he plays it like an episode of The Jeffersons

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Note the difference in audience reaction between this and JEJ's. Here they're laughing at the humiliation ritual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. Denzel mogs in the film, but as far as the stage is concerned, James Earl Jones is unmatched in terms of being the best. I doubt Denzel thought this scene was funny, but the audience laughing, especially at the "cause you like me" part demonstrates that his performance misses the mark.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why are people laughing?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that guy but a father should command respect but if he can only get it from his children through intimidation then something is wrong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty much this. If you have to act like some boogeyman Black person to get respect from your children you already failed miserably.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When you are poor and grow up in a dangerous gang/crime infested neighborhood, strict parenting is about the only thing that will keep your kids off the street/out of trouble. Your influence has to be greater than the influence of all of his peers and there is hardly any room for kindness and affection.

          Rich and middle class families don't have to worry about that because they live in gated communities and can afford to finance many luxurious diversions for their children.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Being a hardass or a piece of shit will probably make them want to stay out of the house more often.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rich and middle class kids are some of the worst though.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They're going to be better on average, since they have less excuse to act out. They only stand out because they have less reason to be cruel, unlike poor children. The bottom line is kids are going to get treated like shit regardless of their status.
              This planet is not a place for children. Simple as.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're romanticizing the rich and middle class far too much. They have a shit ton of problems exactly because the parents or especially the fathers think they can just throw money at things to fix problems to make up for their extreme emotional and communicational ineptitude.
            t. guy who's ranting once again about my own dad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        99% of americas problems are due to fathers not showing love and affection to their children

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >99blah blah
          kys

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        low iq

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. troony seething
        A father should be intimidating, to a point. Its literally part of being a grown man.

        You guys are wasting your time. Imagine trying to explain what being a man is to the no-pussy getting, limp-wristed, failures at life on Cinemaphile who have the emotional state of women on their periods, and who could get their ass beat by 11 year old girls. Only thing "man" about them is that they have penises.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Anon who didn't understand the scene
      He does love his son. But he doesn't want to teach him that people owe him love and affection. He wants to teach him that he should work so that people give him what he's owed. He's preparing his son for the hardships of life

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        watch the rest of the play, he fricks over his son's aspirations, takes a mistress and destroys the family. you misunderstood the scene, he is arrogant and bitter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based zoomer destroying generational trauma with quality thinking.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a zoomer wouldn’t have made that post
        obvious millennial

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Life doesn't always work out that way, suffering is passed down through the generations.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > the son didn't choose life, the father did
      reproduction is in the nature and instinct of every living being sweetie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You were born with a silver spoon coming out of both ends. I guaranteed if a grown man shouted in your face and slapped you across the face you'd fall down and cry like a b***h.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you think about getting shouted at and slapped a lot, homosexual?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently you do. And you'd crumble if it happened.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            says the person it happened to…

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "If I had a nice Dad I wouldn't need to be so invulnerable!"
        You just proved my point in a shockingly textbook way

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I should rather say a kind Dad, "nice" fathers produce pathologies of their own

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        giga embarrassing projection please be bait

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the made a movie you can watch called fences. the father is an abusive drunk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Most of these hardend type men come from unloving families, my Dad came from one but he wasn't a dick like his Dad, he showed me love, admiration and support. He chose to be a better man and taught me the value in compassion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      white hands

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dad is teaching him a valuable lesson. Most folk don't give a shit about you. Even your spouse and kids are willing to cast you out despite you slaving away for them. The reason people treat you right is more out of obligation. Same reason people follow laws so strictly being the fear of punishment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >waaah muh fawtha doesn’t love me enough
      you’re not entitled to anything in life homosexual, especially not from other people. jesus christ white people are so pathetic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you even have children then? Just because you can't stop yourself from cumming you stupid animal?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          to raise people capable of enduring strife and not collapsing due to insufficient amounts of coddling. to create strong people worthy of a lasting legacy. this is why white people are dying out, you homosexuals would rather blame generational parenting than accept responsibility for anything. who cares, my people are needed in the west because we are the only ones willing to bear the responsibility while you sit there impotently crying that your mommy and daddy gave birth to you. civilization needs mindsets like mine and not yours.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The most onions post possible

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I accept your concession, whitoid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not your fault your father didn't love you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            WHEN I BEAT MA KID IT GIB THEM DA SUPER POWAS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine telling your own kid that he isn't entitled to your own love and then thinking that makes you both "hard". You're pathetic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"I don't let you die of exposure or starvation" isn't laudable
      and it turned out too much of an expectation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The father is not a good guy.
      He works as a garbage man, but really he's only able to keep things afloat by stealing welfare checks from his mentally moronic brother. He fricks his son out of trying for a football career and forces him to join the army. Then cheats on his wife with a very young girl and remarries her, but he does actually love her tbf.

      The play is itself mostly an extended character assassination of the father to be tbh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah you're overthinking it, severely... what was the son's question? "why don't you love me"

      if he accepted the premise of that question it would reveal there are limits to his love

      he's letting his son know that it's a duty (and thus he can forever rely on it) to take care of him and feelings won't change it

      and the father makes a very simple reasonable point...

      if he didn't love him then why does he sacrifice so much for him

      >This will create hidden resentment

      no that's what happens when there's no confrontation and the son ~INTERNALIZES~ those feelings

      by getting those feelings out now the dad gets to be in control again. way it was naturally.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Enjoy not loving your children when the day of the foster home comes boomer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Onions homosexual

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    feels wrong to hear James Earl Jones say "aks" and "homie"

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Branagh should give up acting, absolutely MOGGED.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're both pretty good even if it's clear which is better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'd take both of these any over that shitass sherlock homosexual doing this reddit tier monologue ugh

      ?si=E5KGDqPRuU6fzi3K

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy kek yeah that guy's Hamlet has to be the worst I've ever seen. I felt like physically strangling him the first time I saw it. Somehow with each generation Shakespearian acting just gets worse and worse. Just take a look at this GARBAGE:

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          frickin shit yeah that is trash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a problem in the whole idea behind the scene, why is Hamlet talking to himself rather than thinking out loud? He comes out like Willem Dafoe in Spider-Man when he loses it completely, like a lunatic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hamlet
        >a lunatic
        no kidding

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wasn't convinced either of them liked their son's so bad acting by both.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CAN I AXE YOU A QUESTION

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel talks way too fast, like he was about to say it anyway before the kid asked.
    And it's a movie, might be take 45

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like Denzel's performance. It sounds like hes delivering his lines like theres a punchline in there. James gives his lines like a real angry black father.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish we could have seen this. Welles intentionally overacting in a meta commentary would have been top tier.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_Dick%E2%80%94Rehearsed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >peter sallis
      fricking wallace from wallace and gromit in there lol

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What law is there to say I got to like you?
    How do you respond without tearing up like a b***h?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Ya know what I guess there isnt, love you dad"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cringe

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JEJ

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel was great, but JEJ is exactly like every hard ass working-man black father i have ever experienced in my life (theres not alot of them, i admit). Fiery, pissed off, a little off their rocker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. Denzels get too much play in his words and he doesnt have the presence of a father that you fear and respect.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This really says a lot about how black fathers see their kids. Just a responsibility if not an outright burden.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lower class fathers in general.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. psychopath

        If a dude is burning in front of you, do you mull over first whether you like him or not before helping him? No. We humans assume social roles and act out the moral duties attached to them. You help out the burning dude because you owe it to him as a fellow human being not because you like him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do I owe help to some total rando lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. Psychopath

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >help the burning guy
          >be responsible for his medical bills if he lives or his family sues you over his death
          no fricking thanks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll help him because I like him as a fellow human being

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >audience keeps laughing causing Denzel to be undercut
    The film version would be a better comparison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait nvm. The clip is from the film. I thought the link was to the Denzel stage performance.

      ?si=OJ-Vm0T30IHH2etL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All that people laughing, Jesus. What a bunch of sheltered morons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Denzel is actually better here but frick that audience

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We watched the OP clip of JEJ and this one in my theater class in freshman year of college. We were asked to identify the differences in the two, and showcase the different acting and directing decisions—those being JEJ is played more straight, and Denzel is played more comedic. You can do the scene a lot of different ways

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    test

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fences is good, but A Soldier's Play is my favorite black play.

    There was a revival on Broadway in 2019 that was really great. Way better than the movie, and I was surprised to learn that the play has a different ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only black play I saw was Raisin in the Sun and I like that it's honest about how it ain't whitey's fault blacks stay poor

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Im white and grew up in the south. My elementary school principle was a dead ringer for JEJ in this thread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and they were wrong for it. no better than third worlders, really

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >im fat with down syndrome and wanna suck my dads dick, doesn’t that make me BETTER than you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Im white and grew up in the south
      Lmao, beaners are still shitskins buddy

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now show the version of Denzel doing the same role in the stage. It exists and it's terrible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the audience laughing at every dramatic pause
      Brutal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think all those progressive people can't take black people seriously. They're just amusing to them. Not that different from those racist people they despise because they need to feel political correct

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    This one shocked me. Guess Sam Jackson needs context and direction.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    James looks like hes about to punch his son square in the chest
    Denzel looks like hes crackin jokes and waiting for some invisible homies behind him to back him up

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither is very good, dialogue is a little unnatural to begin with and both actors pacing is too fast, with both Denzel and Jones. It's an odd question to ask, the human response would be to pause for a moment, probably ask what they mean, then begin the speech. And in both cases they sound like they are reciting lines they memorized. Best acting I ever saw was on the set of the Sopranos, James Gandolfini had a scene where he was arguing over the phone, sounded 100% like he was having a real conversation escalating into an argument with his kid.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does this seem so silly?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        debasing rite

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao they are all "acting" like models. the end kills me

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pacino mogged De Niro pretty hard in their scene together in Heat. De Niro sounds like he's rehearsing

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer jej darth vader

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel Washington is the black George Clooney. You know it's true.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Denzel can act.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clooney is underrated as a comedic actor imo. He was good in Burn after Reading and Men Who Stare at Goats. He's a little hard to take seriously in dramatic roles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Denzel can nail the brutality of a character with his tone and silent pauses. But brainlets think he's being funny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Denzel can act.

      He was fine in The Descendants and Michael Clayton.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The scenes in Michael Clayton opposite Tom Wilkinson with the bread and Tilda Swinton at the conference and speaking to his comatose wife in Descendants make you realise those very good films could be elevated to great with a better actor in the central performance. He's fine. He's not good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          who would have been a better lead in Michael Clayton?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The role almost feels written for Paul Newman. He'd be perfect. Jack Lemmon also would've been a fantastic fit. Both obviously way too old for the role (even if they weren't dead) in 2007 though.
            From Clooney's contemporaries off the top of y head Clive Owen, Guy Pierce or Edward Norton would've been better in the role. Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Paul Giamatti would also be a great fit for the script but the character would probably be a little different.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ed Norton is completely wrong for that part.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree. Why do you think that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he simply can't play a straight man

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, he can. Think of him in People vs Larry Flynt or 25th Hour. Or even Fight Club.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Michael Clayton opposite Tom Wilkinson with the bread
          One of my favorite scenes ever.
          >then who are you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a fantastic scene. As is the Swinton confrontation but in both scenes he gets so upstaged. The confrontation against Swinton would be an absolute knockout in the right actor's hands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Charisma correlates more with fame. Range correlates more with actual acting ability. Keanu Reeves is 10 in charisma and a 1 in range. People love him but all agree he's a bad actor. Invert the scale and you get someone like Australian actress Toni Collette (Cole's mom in The Sixth Sense). Just another nothing character actor like Noah Taylor who could act circles around some screen hog like Denzel Washington or George Clooney.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot how good she was. An Australian doing a perfect Mid Atlantic accent, while doing one of the hardest things for an actor, crying while convincingly looking like you are trying NOT to cry, plus acting with a kid which always makes everything harder. This shit was a masterclass.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nominated for best supporting actress for it and lost to Angelina Jolie in Girl Interrupted. Actual top tier acting losing out to wet blanket "charisma".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            female awards are the least meritocratic things on earth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Real actors have slowly been mostly replaced with famous people. Watch Robert Shaw in Jaws, and then watch a clip of him being interviewed on a talk show. Compare him to Keanu or another modern "actor" they arent in the same realm at all. Acting is a skill.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You could take any two Denzel Washington performances and swap them and the films would hardly change.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The best actors usually aren't that famous. They inhabit their characters so much they are basically wallpaper, nothing flashy. Take pic related Noah Taylor, his persona changes so much in Vanilla Sky compared to say, Game of Thrones, regular viewers don't event make the connection it's the same person.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Being a perfect character actor doesn't equal being a truly great actor. They serve their purpose but they're often not as affecting as the more famous 'greats'. There are the questions of energy, charisma, sway over the audience, expressiveness, etc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actors are all gays dude. They dance around and play pretend for us to laugh and gawk at them. The more humiliation you endure the better actor you are. That's literally all there is to it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you've never seen a truly profound performance by an actor then you're practically a philistine and know nothing about art.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm better than you because I'm easily entertained by queers prancing around playing pretend
              lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, you just sound like an idiot to any cultured person.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If that's the performance you want, they'll give it to you. Majority of the time they are required to be subdued to not upstage the studio star. Stick a Noah Taylor in the Denzel Washington role in Training Day, a role custom made for Denzel Washington's only gear, and you'd be surprised how well he could embody it. Would it just as memorable? Maybe not, but actors like Taylor have 10 other gears they can shift to, they don't need roles that fit them, they change to fit the roles.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If that's the performance you want, they'll give it to you.
            I doubt it. I'm not saying Denzel did a good job here, but there's a lot more to acting than the wet blanket realism that passes for perfect acting today.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "character actor" is pretty nebulous. Fame is a lottery, almost no merit involved. Vast majority of actors will never receive it. The best living actor is almost certainly some person nobody has ever heard of, or some character actor you take a shit on for not landing more starring roles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I only half agree. Yes, Hollywood fame is no measure of greatness, and one always has to look at the individual case, but certainly great acting talent usually finds its way up in the world. If you impress people, they will want to see more of you, and you will get a following. That is not the same as the celebrity culture machine that throws in any talentless but well-known face into movies. This is, or was, especially the case with a truly great theatrical culture, such as England knew for a long time (it's gone now). All the most famous 19th century actors were also the very greatest, by all accounts. Irving was a genius and earned his place among the greats.

                I think the appeal to statistics in proving there must be some super talented actor unknown out there is usually just a cope. There have been countless unknown geniuses, but geniuses also know how to get themselves known.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there was a peak and it’s passed

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't know character actors weren't actors.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i axed you wherez duh plans to the death star hidden, your highness

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now go to the A and P
    what?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      zoom zoom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26P

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    James Earl Jones is one of my inspirations in life honestly

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    denzel's is better. You're probably some dumb fricking non American and can't understand the subtlety.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hardy mogs Leo in Revnant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leo is extremely overrated yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and everyone mogs him in The Departed. But Hardy is the real deal.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel is extremely overrated yeah

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no dedicated theater board

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Denzel sounds too friendly. James Earl Jones actually sounds like the question pissed him off to high heaven. Denzel also sounds like psycho when he laughs when he says "Hell, I know it's cause of me". He either sounds like he could have hugged him at the end of that speech or pic rel'd him

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    apparently nobody knows

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's well known

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    objectively both good.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a man is supposed to be a cuck that lets others walk all over him for no gain to himself and to raise some kids he doesn't like or know and for a wife he doesn't even want to frick
    Grim. I'm never succumbing to this shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. A character like JEJ in this scene as good as the acting is is just straight bullshit.
      These old fricks just need to admit they wanted to coom in a pussy and didn't care about literally fricking anything other than that if they hate their kids so much. They deserve to face that reality.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The axe pronunciation comes from Old English. They inherited it from white people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >inherited it
      More like stole it.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theatre acting is cringe and makes me feel embarrassed for the people involved.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all these soft , entitled zoomers ITT thinking that the world owes them anything

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You owe your children affection

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he doesn't even know their names. naggers gonna nag

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol james earl jones attempt at a blaccent is so silly

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like both of them!

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >director mogs the lead actor in a cameo

    Scorsese should have acted more

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >Why is it that black people can't say "ask" but they can say "Escalade?"
    Jay mohr has some good as appearances on O&A

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    because they're Black folk with Black person lips build for clicking sounds

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Quintessential Black person trait is lauding neglect like it's some incredible feat that will buff the kids character (for what? gangwar?) and then wondering why everyone finds you repulsive and doesn't want to be around you

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All of August Wilson's plays are about how black people are responsible for their own problems. No one made Troy cheat on his wife.

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