The hug didn't solve his problems, it just made him calm down from feeling like a monster. He literally says in the next episode that months have passed and that he has a therapist now. You people have zero reading comprehension
What else is he supposed to do? You can't "heal it" onscreen cause people will call it rushed and you can't do it off-screen cause people like you will call it "literally nothing"
when the frick did SU fans ever demand a whole season about mental illness?
Not him but as someone with literal suicidal depression among other defects i was insulted by how fricking moronic they made steven in future. First off frick his fricking psyedo ed "durr im too matire for the fun unique things i used to do like cheeseburger backpack or together breakfast" or how he wanted to have a "normal" life under the tyranny of gregs shit parents or how he just fricks off forever at the end. I would kill to be in stevens place and have all those friends and sexy alien women thirsty for my dick
This. I can't imagine anyone with actual mental issues to like this season >just go to therapy and leave forever
BRAVO SUGAR
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know how to read
2 years ago
Anonymous
??
stop defending this piece of shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not defending it, brainlet. I'm pointing out how mongoloid your reasoning on why it's bad is. Authors write things that are interesting to them, not because someone said they want a show about it. If they care about mental health, they write stuff about mental health. And after watching SU in its entirety it's beyond moronic of you to think the people who work on the show wouldn't find that to be a very important subject to talk about, now that a platform has been given to them. Yes, this is literally how all kids' shows work unless they go full corporate or are an adaptation.
The execution failed, but there's literally nothing wrong with talking about mental illness in and of itself. Some of the greatest Cinemaphile shows are about it, or use it to further the plot in some way. Legion, Infinity Train, BoJack Fricking Horseman, need I say more?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Normal words but a horse guy is pretentious fricking garbage but i do agree with your point about talking about depression or mental health in cartoons
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretentious fricking gold don't you mean?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hah, way to morb him, anon!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but there's literally nothing wrong with talking about mental illness in and of itself
it is, because you get takes like this
https://i.imgur.com/MNbDYu6.jpg
can hug solve mental problems?
you either go full in, or you just leave it be
2 years ago
Anonymous
The problem wasnt discussing or showing mental illness, the problem was how fricking moronic they made steven and his actions in the show. Frick man i cant stand being alone if i didnt have my family id kill myself in a heartbeat
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only good moment from SUF was fighting Jasper. Hell it probably would have made more sense to just use her as the PTSD figure and have Steven & friends take her through sessions on why clinging on to abuse is bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when the frick did SU fans ever demand a whole season about mental illness?
? That's what the whole show is about, people solving their emotional and psychological problems?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>? That's what the whole show is about, people solving their emotional and psychological problems?
No, the show was about Steven fighitng against an alien gem empire. But thanks to you mentally ill trannies, Rebecca have reverted the entire series into a fricking LGBTQWERTY acceptance therapy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, the show was about Steven fighitng against an alien gem empire.
Not for the first three seasons it wasn't. It was about aliens making very thinly veiled allegories to interpersonal relationships.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It was about aliens making very thinly veiled allegories to interpersonal relationships
I will never understand why you groomers always pollute everything with your complex relationship crap especially in a literal kids' show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine being so emotionally stunted that you thing anything in steven universe is complex
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude, literally the first episode is about how he's gotta figure out his feelings and shit to summon his weapon, which turns out to be a fricking shield. This is in addition to being about space insects that are to be befriended and fricking ice cream sadness. The show was gayer than Liberace right from the beginning.
It's a show for children, get over it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude, literally the first episode is about how he's gotta figure out his feelings and shit to summon his weapon, which turns out to be a fricking shield. This is in addition to being about space insects that are to be befriended and fricking ice cream sadness. The show was gayer than Liberace right from the beginning.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can't deny that SU has tried to be a normal adventure show before S1 and got hardly derailed and turned into a intercomplex queer relationship drama. It was like, the entire intended audience has changed from 10-13 year old kids into 18-21 year old gay college students.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>before S1
2 years ago
Anonymous
stop acting like you don't know what I meant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know what you meant. It's been a gayfest to me start to finish
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was a gayfest, but it was a gayfest with a clear storyline, there's a huge difference of quality writing between S1 and the rest of the seasons.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So the adventure time effect.
2 years ago
Anonymous
AT at least was intentional. SU literally got steered by a bunch of Tumblr artists and fandom who turned the entire show into a gay lesbian space drama.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>AT at least was intentional.
It was as 'intentional' as SU's.
2 years ago
Anonymous
At no point was steven universe a normal adventure show - literally any and all plot devices revolved around feelings and gay shit. Characters like garnet, pearl, sadie, and steven himself are 100% touchy feely bullshit.
Not him but as someone with literal suicidal depression among other defects i was insulted by how fricking moronic they made steven in future. First off frick his fricking psyedo ed "durr im too matire for the fun unique things i used to do like cheeseburger backpack or together breakfast" or how he wanted to have a "normal" life under the tyranny of gregs shit parents or how he just fricks off forever at the end. I would kill to be in stevens place and have all those friends and sexy alien women thirsty for my dick
when the frick did SU fans ever demand a whole season about mental illness?
[...]
This. I can't imagine anyone with actual mental issues to like this season >just go to therapy and leave forever
BRAVO SUGAR
The problem wasnt discussing or showing mental illness, the problem was how fricking moronic they made steven and his actions in the show. Frick man i cant stand being alone if i didnt have my family id kill myself in a heartbeat
I thought that the point was Steven was supposed to be moronic in SU:F because of unironic mental illness fricking with his brain and fricking up his relationships. That said, I have no idea why Steven's issue took everyone else's IQ along with his to rock bottom. >The future is never certain, that's why I exist >But I saw every timeline and you're rejected in every single one of them lol
Eat a bag of dicks, Garnet.
That's why mental problems in media should be left to fester, because unchecked emotional problems and trauma makes a character more interesting. He'd also need a psychiatrist, not some dickhead who sits him down and talks about feelings for an hour.
There's two types, a psychiatrist and a psychologist. The psychiatrist is vastly more competent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not true, psychiatrists are annoying homosexuals who think they know everything and have that typical doctor attitude of looking down on you which does not make for an anywhere near good attitude for healing people
In fact many of them are hacks who will give you meds and be perfectly content to let you suffer under the effects of the disease the meds fully failed to do anything about as long as you're doing better by even a smidgen but still clearly not well at all
2 years ago
Anonymous
As opposed to the psychologists who are less educated and don't have the license to prescribe you meds.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Education isn't an RPG skill where more of it is a higher level and therefore unequivocally better, moron. They go to school for a lesser number of years, but they do learn things psychiatrists don't, including methodological stuff that makes them actually helpful to talk to.
Meds are some real fricking bullshit and you should be extremely wary of anyone who prescribes them to you quickly. You won't figure out what they've been doing to you until you're off them, anon, and even the getting off part will exact a toll.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Education isn't an RPG skill where more of it is a higher level and therefore unequivocally better
It makes the psychiatrists the only ones qualified to deal with terminal cases with genuine problems and act more like medical professionals with greater experience instead of someone who can talk to you and do nothing else. A psychiatrist is also able to do the same thing a psychologist does, but not the other way around. >Meds are some real fricking bullshit
Also often necessary, even if malpractice and pill addiction is a factor.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not true, psychiatrists are annoying homosexuals who think they know everything and have that typical doctor attitude of looking down on you which does not make for an anywhere near good attitude for healing people
In fact many of them are hacks who will give you meds and be perfectly content to let you suffer under the effects of the disease the meds fully failed to do anything about as long as you're doing better by even a smidgen but still clearly not well at all
As opposed to the psychologists who are less educated and don't have the license to prescribe you meds.
is this a joke or are there people who unironically have no idea that a psychiatrist has a medicine degree and technically a doctor? those are two entirely different branches. one belongs to stem and other is a part of social sciences.
2 years ago
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I'm aware, that's why psychiatrists are far more qualified.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not even a psychologist but those are two different jobs with different qualifications. there's no hierarchy between them. there are legally things that a psychologist can do and a psychiatrist don't and vice versa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm genuinely curious, but what exactly does a psychologist do that's something a psychiatrist can't do?
2 years ago
Anonymous
psychologists are qualified to hold various therapy methods which some of them are entitled only to them. and psychiatrists, as a medical doctor can prescribe medicine unlike psychologists.
2 years ago
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But do those therapy methods work?
2 years ago
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unlike medicines, they do.
2 years ago
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>Meds don't work
Yeah they do, nigguh.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They can't build or destroy neural pathways in a precise manner, and therefore can't give you the emotional perspective and behavioral patterns you need to lead a healthy life. Meds actually curing mental diseases isn't going to be a thing until they roll out nanites-in-a-pill.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Meds don't work
Yeah they do, nigguh.
Medicine only works if the mental problems are caused by hormone/chemical imbalances.
2 years ago
Anonymous
unlike psychologists, psychiatrists have a six digit student debt as they've graduated from med school.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But social sciences are for gays.
2 years ago
Anonymous
both sciences are for gays. smart people usually start a business instead of wasting 4-5 years for being a debt ridden wage slave.
By not treating it like it can be healed from with just a hug, only to then tell you, not even show you, that it didn't do nothing outside of ending the main conflict and so he gets a therapist, I can't believe anyone read this script and decided it was worth spending a single penny on.
I'm reminded of some reddit post about somebody saying that men need affection. And a girl said she held her boyfriend and pet him and stuff and he started crying, saying he never got that kind of love from anyone else.
I wonder if it would fix the mental health crisis any if there was a government-funded program that sent social workers to your house every 2-4 weeks to hug and cuddle you for a bit
Sorta? Having/knowing you have people that care and want to help you can definitely help.
I think the problem is most of the character were already offering Steven help through out Future he just constantly refused them.
>I think the problem is most of the character were already offering Steven help through out Future he just constantly refused them.
Is that really a problem though? Rejection of help and shutting out loved ones is generally what pushes (young) people into crisis periods in the real world
True but then Connie's speech with the whole "We need to be there for Steven" doesn't work considering they've been there for him - the problem is more internal with Steven rejecting help.
I guess it's supposed to be the equivalent of an intervention though resolving with a hug is still lame. Would've liked it more if it was less about the others apologizing to Steven and more internally Steven realizing he doesn't need to help everyone anymore.
Feeling supported and validated usually helps
I can concur that yes, hugs do indeed solve mental problems.
But only hugs from women.
Wait, why was garnet giant again?
It was inevitable
Probably with Yellow Diamond's help
why is garnet huge? (i havent watched this show in ages)
Yellow Diamond has the power to modify a gem's size.
Shouldn't all gems do that since they're just hard light projections?
They can't because they don't normally have enough power to do so. That's why Amethyst can't just embiggen herself.
>can hug solve mental problems?
No
Next question
I don't know. I forgot what it was like.
Has enough time passed where we can finally say this show was terrible?
Solve? No.
Help? Maybe.
Trash ending.
No, but a lack of physical affection can cause depression
seeing amethyst fusion with steven make me even more depressed
it made me excited
Nope! But accepting Christ into your heart can.
The hug didn't solve his problems, it just made him calm down from feeling like a monster. He literally says in the next episode that months have passed and that he has a therapist now. You people have zero reading comprehension
>he has a therapist now
wow it's literally nothing
What else is he supposed to do? You can't "heal it" onscreen cause people will call it rushed and you can't do it off-screen cause people like you will call it "literally nothing"
maybe don't include mental illness at all then? was anyone asking for this?
Why the frick would a writer give an audience what they asked for? Are you actually moronic?
when the frick did SU fans ever demand a whole season about mental illness?
This. I can't imagine anyone with actual mental issues to like this season
>just go to therapy and leave forever
BRAVO SUGAR
>he doesn't know how to read
??
stop defending this piece of shit
I'm not defending it, brainlet. I'm pointing out how mongoloid your reasoning on why it's bad is. Authors write things that are interesting to them, not because someone said they want a show about it. If they care about mental health, they write stuff about mental health. And after watching SU in its entirety it's beyond moronic of you to think the people who work on the show wouldn't find that to be a very important subject to talk about, now that a platform has been given to them. Yes, this is literally how all kids' shows work unless they go full corporate or are an adaptation.
The execution failed, but there's literally nothing wrong with talking about mental illness in and of itself. Some of the greatest Cinemaphile shows are about it, or use it to further the plot in some way. Legion, Infinity Train, BoJack Fricking Horseman, need I say more?
Normal words but a horse guy is pretentious fricking garbage but i do agree with your point about talking about depression or mental health in cartoons
Pretentious fricking gold don't you mean?
Hah, way to morb him, anon!
>but there's literally nothing wrong with talking about mental illness in and of itself
it is, because you get takes like this
you either go full in, or you just leave it be
The problem wasnt discussing or showing mental illness, the problem was how fricking moronic they made steven and his actions in the show. Frick man i cant stand being alone if i didnt have my family id kill myself in a heartbeat
Only good moment from SUF was fighting Jasper. Hell it probably would have made more sense to just use her as the PTSD figure and have Steven & friends take her through sessions on why clinging on to abuse is bad.
>when the frick did SU fans ever demand a whole season about mental illness?
? That's what the whole show is about, people solving their emotional and psychological problems?
>? That's what the whole show is about, people solving their emotional and psychological problems?
No, the show was about Steven fighitng against an alien gem empire. But thanks to you mentally ill trannies, Rebecca have reverted the entire series into a fricking LGBTQWERTY acceptance therapy.
>No, the show was about Steven fighitng against an alien gem empire.
Not for the first three seasons it wasn't. It was about aliens making very thinly veiled allegories to interpersonal relationships.
>It was about aliens making very thinly veiled allegories to interpersonal relationships
I will never understand why you groomers always pollute everything with your complex relationship crap especially in a literal kids' show.
Imagine being so emotionally stunted that you thing anything in steven universe is complex
It's a show for children, get over it
Dude, literally the first episode is about how he's gotta figure out his feelings and shit to summon his weapon, which turns out to be a fricking shield. This is in addition to being about space insects that are to be befriended and fricking ice cream sadness. The show was gayer than Liberace right from the beginning.
You can't deny that SU has tried to be a normal adventure show before S1 and got hardly derailed and turned into a intercomplex queer relationship drama. It was like, the entire intended audience has changed from 10-13 year old kids into 18-21 year old gay college students.
>before S1
stop acting like you don't know what I meant.
I don't know what you meant. It's been a gayfest to me start to finish
It was a gayfest, but it was a gayfest with a clear storyline, there's a huge difference of quality writing between S1 and the rest of the seasons.
So the adventure time effect.
AT at least was intentional. SU literally got steered by a bunch of Tumblr artists and fandom who turned the entire show into a gay lesbian space drama.
>AT at least was intentional.
It was as 'intentional' as SU's.
At no point was steven universe a normal adventure show - literally any and all plot devices revolved around feelings and gay shit. Characters like garnet, pearl, sadie, and steven himself are 100% touchy feely bullshit.
Maybe you just werent paying attention.
Not him but as someone with literal suicidal depression among other defects i was insulted by how fricking moronic they made steven in future. First off frick his fricking psyedo ed "durr im too matire for the fun unique things i used to do like cheeseburger backpack or together breakfast" or how he wanted to have a "normal" life under the tyranny of gregs shit parents or how he just fricks off forever at the end. I would kill to be in stevens place and have all those friends and sexy alien women thirsty for my dick
I thought that the point was Steven was supposed to be moronic in SU:F because of unironic mental illness fricking with his brain and fricking up his relationships. That said, I have no idea why Steven's issue took everyone else's IQ along with his to rock bottom.
>The future is never certain, that's why I exist
>But I saw every timeline and you're rejected in every single one of them lol
Eat a bag of dicks, Garnet.
That's why mental problems in media should be left to fester, because unchecked emotional problems and trauma makes a character more interesting. He'd also need a psychiatrist, not some dickhead who sits him down and talks about feelings for an hour.
Psychiatrists ARE therapists, bro. They're one category of therapist. "Therapist" is a very broad term.
There's two types, a psychiatrist and a psychologist. The psychiatrist is vastly more competent.
Not true, psychiatrists are annoying homosexuals who think they know everything and have that typical doctor attitude of looking down on you which does not make for an anywhere near good attitude for healing people
In fact many of them are hacks who will give you meds and be perfectly content to let you suffer under the effects of the disease the meds fully failed to do anything about as long as you're doing better by even a smidgen but still clearly not well at all
As opposed to the psychologists who are less educated and don't have the license to prescribe you meds.
Education isn't an RPG skill where more of it is a higher level and therefore unequivocally better, moron. They go to school for a lesser number of years, but they do learn things psychiatrists don't, including methodological stuff that makes them actually helpful to talk to.
Meds are some real fricking bullshit and you should be extremely wary of anyone who prescribes them to you quickly. You won't figure out what they've been doing to you until you're off them, anon, and even the getting off part will exact a toll.
>Education isn't an RPG skill where more of it is a higher level and therefore unequivocally better
It makes the psychiatrists the only ones qualified to deal with terminal cases with genuine problems and act more like medical professionals with greater experience instead of someone who can talk to you and do nothing else. A psychiatrist is also able to do the same thing a psychologist does, but not the other way around.
>Meds are some real fricking bullshit
Also often necessary, even if malpractice and pill addiction is a factor.
is this a joke or are there people who unironically have no idea that a psychiatrist has a medicine degree and technically a doctor? those are two entirely different branches. one belongs to stem and other is a part of social sciences.
I'm aware, that's why psychiatrists are far more qualified.
I'm not even a psychologist but those are two different jobs with different qualifications. there's no hierarchy between them. there are legally things that a psychologist can do and a psychiatrist don't and vice versa.
I'm genuinely curious, but what exactly does a psychologist do that's something a psychiatrist can't do?
psychologists are qualified to hold various therapy methods which some of them are entitled only to them. and psychiatrists, as a medical doctor can prescribe medicine unlike psychologists.
But do those therapy methods work?
unlike medicines, they do.
>Meds don't work
Yeah they do, nigguh.
They can't build or destroy neural pathways in a precise manner, and therefore can't give you the emotional perspective and behavioral patterns you need to lead a healthy life. Meds actually curing mental diseases isn't going to be a thing until they roll out nanites-in-a-pill.
Medicine only works if the mental problems are caused by hormone/chemical imbalances.
unlike psychologists, psychiatrists have a six digit student debt as they've graduated from med school.
But social sciences are for gays.
both sciences are for gays. smart people usually start a business instead of wasting 4-5 years for being a debt ridden wage slave.
what a fricking clown board
Maybe just have the season be framed as a story Steven is telling a therapist or have it like some Sopranos type therapy plots.
By not treating it like it can be healed from with just a hug, only to then tell you, not even show you, that it didn't do nothing outside of ending the main conflict and so he gets a therapist, I can't believe anyone read this script and decided it was worth spending a single penny on.
Steven was a fricking idiot for not staying at beach city and fricking gem pussy all day every day. Humanity is shit and overrated
Gone back to Homeworld and ruled a galactic empire.
This is like that Beavis and Butthead 9/11 picture...
it bothers me that garnet can sapeshift to hat size while in the finale the everything fusion was so tiny
My pOwEr must be inTerfEring with a tV Signal
Certainly more helpful then telling someone to "suck it up"
You have no idea.
I'm reminded of some reddit post about somebody saying that men need affection. And a girl said she held her boyfriend and pet him and stuff and he started crying, saying he never got that kind of love from anyone else.
Skin Hunger sounds like a low budget horror movie.
I wonder if it would fix the mental health crisis any if there was a government-funded program that sent social workers to your house every 2-4 weeks to hug and cuddle you for a bit
rape
GIWTWM
one of the evidence progressive types are scum on earth is they preach peace and love but they hate half of the world and half of their guts.
speaking from experience it can go a long way
that finale was still stupid though
Of course not. Hugs lead to the person with mental illness becoming addicted to physical affection in lieu of dealing with their problems.
Honestly? Hugs and validation are huge.
Sorta? Having/knowing you have people that care and want to help you can definitely help.
I think the problem is most of the character were already offering Steven help through out Future he just constantly refused them.
>I think the problem is most of the character were already offering Steven help through out Future he just constantly refused them.
Is that really a problem though? Rejection of help and shutting out loved ones is generally what pushes (young) people into crisis periods in the real world
it's literally just a rebellious phase every teenagers go through
True but then Connie's speech with the whole "We need to be there for Steven" doesn't work considering they've been there for him - the problem is more internal with Steven rejecting help.
I guess it's supposed to be the equivalent of an intervention though resolving with a hug is still lame. Would've liked it more if it was less about the others apologizing to Steven and more internally Steven realizing he doesn't need to help everyone anymore.
a bunch of big titty alien females metaphorically hugged my penis, that'd help with alot of my mental issues
SU should have ended with Steven destroying Beach city and eating people before having his gem shattered by Bismuth.