Can someone please explain why the retired military father suddenly turns gay in American Beauty?

Can someone please explain why the retired military father suddenly turns gay in American Beauty? It was very clearly established early on that he didn't approve of homosexuality. I thought I may of missed an important scene that would explain this development so I rewatched the film but nope there wasn't anything to indicate that he was gay. Quite the opposite in fact; he was married, had a son, and was adamantly against the idea of homosexuality. Then out of nowhere he tries to kiss another man? Makes no sense.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was a trope back then. Masculine men, especially masculine men who disapproved of homosexuality, were held to be repressed homosexuals who then took out their anger on non-repressed homosexuals.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a trope back now too. It's (you) and (you)r dad and (you)r creepy pedo uncle (you) weird homeschooled little frick.

      Anti-gay politician caught in 25 man orgy resigns - Medium

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://medium.com/thefunnydisco/anti-gay-politician-resigns-after-breaking-covid-restrictions-by-sneaking-out-to-a-25-man-orgy-f09f932df3fa

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kevin Spacey raped a boy on Nantucket and got away with it even though the kid went to the cops and took him to court

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I instinctively tried to read this post as a limerick.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        there was an old actor from nantucket,
        who saw a young boy and said frick it,
        "im and actor" said he,
        "ill get away scot free"
        and he went and got caught by the Met.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty good

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Same.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you can't trace the Space

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He's about to have a trial in Britain

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    one of the biggest propaganda movies of all time

    hilarious people still that the 90s were based with movies like this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the 90s was full-blown propaganda, zoomers are less progressive than the 90s.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kevin Spacey sucks a good dick, man.
        Also;

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Alan Ball is gay and didn't have any better ideas. see also: the original edgy grimdark ending which got replaced with a lame non-sequiteur happy ending.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Hollywood is filled with homosexuals and tries to make everybody else look like a homosexual too....

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you've read Neil Gaiman's Anansi Boys or watched Once Upon A Time In Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino, you'd know that the best way to defeat your enemy is not to directly oppose him, but to edit how he is perceived by other people. You don't have to beat your enemy if you can successfully mock him.

    In Anansi Boys, the main character defeats a fearsome magical tiger whose roar frightens everyone. How? Not through combat, no. By comically parodying his roar into sounding ridiculous and childish, so every time the tiger roars again everyone will laugh because they're reminded of the parody instead of the real thing. The tiger no longer scares anyone or commands any respect, his power is gone.

    In OUATIH, Tarantino mocks the murderers of Sharon Tate by creating a scenario in which they don't actually kill her, but get killed instead in a very humiliating and comedic fashion. Even though real life events were far bleaker, Tarantino somewhat edited history by popularizing an alternate version of events that makes the murderers look weak and stupid. Their infamy is weakened and people now remember them as more idiotic than monstrous.

    Turning fear into laughter - something similar is done in American Beauty. How do you compromise a homophobic man? Easy, just make him seem homosexual. That's all you need to do. He can't be taken seriously again, everyone jeers and smirks because he unraveled himself without anyone else interfering, how can he claim to hate something if he's the exact same? The fear and the threat is gone, you can only pity this man or laugh at him. Therefore homosexuality wins.

    At its heart this is a demoralization tactic and it's very effective.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      impressive digits

      now let's see who got

      [...]

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Checking in.
        This makes me much happier than it should, I'm 51yo.
        Insanely good film though, check it out.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you know I'm the same anon from the other thread? the one that bore witness to your post. I'm actually going to watch your rec since it looks good.

          what's it like being 51 and posting on Cinemaphile? any wisdom you can bestow on a wayward 34 old dude?

          • 2 years ago
            afatoldman

            Not him, but I am 46.

            Take care of your health. Eat healthy, get exercise and lose weight if you are overweight. Shit will catch up to you. Also, acceptance is a very useful tool.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Make Way For Tomorrow is one of the greatest films ever made.
            As for being 51, simple minded Black folk and AIDS ridden homosexuals have taken over the internet.
            Dial up had a better crowd.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I've been monitoring both threads and I'm sold. Thanks for the recommendation, old-timer.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good post.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's a chud pasta

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's literally true.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hahaha! Y-yeah... Err. Demoralization.. Yeah

      http://www.newnownext.com/19-republican-politicians-gay-sex/12/2016

      https://globalgrind.com/182718/a-list-of-republicans-that-got-caught-in-gay-scandals/

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/11/1870982/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >outliers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Premium cope. Keep seething chud.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            How original

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Politics is different from private life. Most of what politicians project to the public is fake.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what's there to explain? "conservative homophobe = self hating homo" hollywood trope.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you ARE aware that this post happened quite some ago, right?

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    military mkultra victim
    1 step away from dahmer

  10. 2 years ago
    afatoldman

    He didn't suddenly turn gay. He was always gay and his refusal to accept that is why the family was so dysfunctional. He thought Lester was gay and felt he could reveal himself to him. When Lester turned out to be straight, he was so humiliated he killed him.

    This is pretty basic stuff dude.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just because you throw the garbage one day, doesn't make you the garbage man. Kissing another man is not gay

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