>Can't beat hope because Lucifer still has hope within their own heart. Hope that one day they can be redeemed. If they become that which kills all hope, then they would have to kill their own hope, and they just weren't able to do that. It's not about philosophy or any of this other metaphysical stuff. It's about who Lucifer is fundamentally as a character. Morpheus won because he knew this because he knows what Lucifer's dream is.
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shouldve been him
>show is 90% black women
>time for an evil character
>she's white
kek white roasties btfo
so woke they forgot the asians cept the ceo bawd. terrible show, overhyped garbage.
>they
you don't belong here
Rofl she looks terrible.
Have you read the comics? Lucifer doesn't give a frick about being "redeemed". What he really hopes for is to escape his father's sovereignty. To be free from predestination and attain true free will. So Lucifer does have hope, just not in the way you're thinking. Even Lucifer ruling Hell is still part of dear old dad's grand plan and Lucifer can't stand it.
I don't read or watch any capecontent, but the Lucifer in Paradise Lost absolutely does care about being redeemed. Been years since highschool english but iirc he despaired because he absolutely wanted to return but considered himself too far gone and beyond redemption to even bother trying.
Reminder that Lucifer vanishes when he finally accepts that everything in creation is part of his father himself induced. But of course modern DC had to frick it up and bring him back in the reboot.
>I am despair, hope-crushing, all-suffocating
Your move, Dreamy
The whole point was that Lucifer couldn't defeat hope without denying himself. To become despair would go against what Lucifer is. It would be like admitting God was right all along.
You can't counter hope with despair, the whole point of hope is that it comes in desperate times to help people get through them
You should read on the etymology of the word despair.
So should you
>I count hope with despair
>but i still have hope
>well i guess it's not truly desperate
So you don't know what etymology means.
I just thought she couldn't beat it because hope is the last one to die. Like, it always appears when everything gets bad, it's unbeatable in that sense
Lucifer is almost always a kino character when written as more than I'M THE DEVIL HAHAHAHAHA!
I recently ordered Paradise Lost. Been meaning to read it for a long time.
What kills hope? Despair. It's that fricking simple.
Lucifer is the most hopeful entity in existence. He hopes to be free from GOD. Becoming despair is abhorrent to Lucifer.
If you had wings on your back, how are you able to put on a shirt, let alone armor?
The only logical answer is to cut two vertical slits in the back like pic related
ruined
youre just upset hes living your dream
I never wanted to kill my wife
Why does it look like a CW show?
It doesn't.
It does moron.
Dream is meant to look like a black eyed porcelain faced autist who doesn't reflect emotion on his face save for few moments of extreme regret or anger
having a twilight tier dream is cw as it gets.
Dreams face can be yellow depending on what type of paper it was printed on lol.
>casting suave masculine jazz lucifer as fricking brianne of barf
and some of you frickers have the nerve to give me shit for me saying that desire is well cast.
Desire and Corinthian are the only decently cast people in the show go frick yoursleves
This is the page the scene is based on. Very masculine indeed.
He is still clearly male in that picture moron.
Maybe not the apex masclune but a handsome lad no doubt
he was based on david bowie, not a particularly masculine guy quite the oposite actually
that said i don't think they made a good casting choice for the role
Then why the frick are you grilling me if you agree she doesn't suit the role moron.
Either have him as masculine jazz lucifer or boyishly beautiful angelic lucifer
someone post young germanic teen holding old israeli man against wall photo - also good casting
i'm not that anon
It should have been Tilda Swinton but they probably couldn't afford her or felt it was a bad idea after she was already in the Constantine movie.
Reminder that the forced diversity shot their own message in the foot.
Dream speaking to his immortal friend in the comic and chastising him about being involved in the slave trade took place in an accurately white england. The fact the showrunnes forced Black folk of affluence and wealth throughout english history means that they were also responsible for the slave trade happening at the time, thus removing any racial guilt associated with the slave trade.
don't know if based or woke ODing showrunners
Re-watch the scene once more. Nigs only appear in the bar after Britian abolishes slavery. Before that the patrons are all white.
I remember nogs being there in the scene where mr immortal first declares he wont die, and where constantine hijacks them.
>their
Get fricked, shlomo
this was also based on David Bowie
there are many Bowies. homosexual Bowies, Chad Bowies, what's you favorite Bowie?
my top three Bowies are Thin White Duke, Major Tom, and the gay goblin king from that one movie with the israeli jailbait.
I... actually liked FemLucifer. I just wish Hells triumvirate didn’t get cut.
if I were an Endless I'd be Racism 🙂