I'm convinced soulpatch man is the canonical Revan. >KotOR was meant to be played as a male >soulpatch is the only unique male model with a scar and grows a goatee when turning DS
Exile doesn't work as a woman at all when I replayed the game some time ago. So many of the game related shit doesn't mesh. The Handmaiden, Visas Marr, Kreia and Atris who is in love with you. Like none of it makes sense if you're playing a female version of the Exile.
I mean it makes sense, it just isn't as good. Atris for one having this ideal admiration of you instead of being in love is objectively worse.
>him
I distinctly remember Revan being female when I played KOTOR, on account of me making my character female in the beginning of the game. My playthrough is the only canon one. Your non-canon playthroughs can frick off.
My Revan was fourth row, third from the left. His name was Saron Jast, which was the first name that came up from the random name gen.
Hollywood would pick second row second last. The dumpiest plainest Black person female.
Not true, I picked the Chinaman on the far left of the third row for my first playthrough. I never got past Dantooine with him though and restarted with mulletman because I got sick of playing support classes.
My Revan was the very first female portrait. My Exile was Jedi Jesus. Then they made it canon that Revan is a man and the Exile a foid. Frick SW srsly.
The Revan novel didn't happen and TOR didn't happen, but I did like the Exile being a woman even if the Handmaiden was a much better companion that the Disciple.
Exile doesn't work as a woman at all when I replayed the game some time ago. So many of the game related shit doesn't mesh. The Handmaiden, Visas Marr, Kreia and Atris who is in love with you. Like none of it makes sense if you're playing a female version of the Exile.
The dynamic with Kreia and Atton feels better (you can even establish more parallels too), but not the rest. I've played with the mods that make all the women fall for you, but it still makes it weird how everyone is obsessed with getting in your pants
>mfw have been playing Jedi Jesus since release >mfw didn't even know Disciple was a possible party member until a few years ago
Feels good not being a homosexual
Disciple is the only Kotor companion I can't really talk or care about. Bao-Dur's remote was more interesting than him
I've never played a female Exile and can't imagine how Kreia would behave around a female protagonist. Her berating masculine behavior made her character more interesting to me.
I don't remember much about FemExile gameplay except Sion and Atton being simps
I've never played a female Exile and can't imagine how Kreia would behave around a female protagonist. Her berating masculine behavior made her character more interesting to me.
If Kotor was ever made into a movie series 1 and 2 should be combined into the same storyline. 1 doesn't have the plot density to support a trilogy of movies, and 2 doesn't have a real overarching "Star Wars" adventure. Both together would be a perfect balance.
Back when I played TOR, I imagined the Jedi Knight story is basically Revan seeking out the "true Sith", finding their Empire, as they decide to reveal themselves and go to war. Consular was headcanoned into the Exile, whose adventures don't quite cross "Revan's" but they still contribute to the overall effort to ultimately take down the Sith emperor on Ziost. Then we learn about Valkorion and his new Empire, "Revan" seeks him out, but gets captured at some point and "Exile" frees him. Instead of "Revan" disappearing into light bubbles like a chump, him and "Exile" both pair up, build up the Alliance forces (Knights of the fallen Empire) and kick Valkorion's ass once and for all. That marks the end for me and I didn't bother with Iokath and beyond. Somewhere in there the other classes have their own spin off adventures, interweaving with the overall story as alternate POV characters for flavor. I'm pretty happy with my headcanon Kotor Saga.
Exile is only a girl in the Revan novel and ToR, which is widely regarded as terrible, condescending fan fiction.
TSL's marketing always portrayed the Exile as a male, and was Jedi Jesus in promotional art and the trailer, explicitally gendered by the narrator: >"But there is one thing standing in our way... One last Jedi... Who has yet to choose HIS true role in the galaxy." >"If HE joins us on the path to darkness... Those who fight alongside HIM will follow. But if HE takes the path of a Jedi, those who join HIM will feel the vengeance of the dark side."
>him
I distinctly remember Revan being female when I played KOTOR, on account of me making my character female in the beginning of the game. My playthrough is the only canon one. Your non-canon playthroughs can frick off.
Having them both be male also has some dynamics
By dialog option and presets, you get rhe feeling that The Exile is older and more straitlaced than the younger and laid back Revan, which an interesting dynamic of a younger and more personally immature jedi being this phenomenal prodigy and war leader that even older jedi follow him
Kinda turns them into Obi and Anakin in a sense, which is alright. Still, even if the execution is not that great, I like the idea of The Exile being an older, more experienced woman because that's hotter.
That's more maternal than sexual, unless you're into that. She lectures a lot, and I like the idea of a character taking over the role of a mentor, which is what you do in the end of the game anyway. The motherly aspect is easier to grasp with a female Exile I suppose
>because that's hotter.
Sure, but since they never frick it's stretching my credibility that super charismatic Revan doesn't boink his so magnetic and attractive underling that has dark lords simping for her
There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him, but I get you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him
And that's what Bastila's for.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My life for yours
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him
Indeed?
>she canonically has shorter dark hair under that hood, like Elastigirl's
Diamonds.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My Sith Assassin Can't Be This Cute!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>has eye sockets
kind of surprised, I thought she'd be spookier and have nothing eye related whatsoever
2 years ago
Anonymous
Artistic license maybe, I think no sockets would look better
2 years ago
Anonymous
Artistic license maybe, I think no sockets would look better
Miraluka were humans not that long ago, they have eye sockets as vestigial organs, but no eyes.
Apparently, Nihilus's visions were devastating enough to cause Visas sockets to implode
2 years ago
Anonymous
>big gaping pitch black holes in her face >still looks cute
how does she do it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Five holes.18 in a pinch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>has eye sockets
kind of surprised, I thought she'd be spookier and have nothing eye related whatsoever
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him
Indeed?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Her voice was pure sex
Even Azula couldn't compete
>because that's hotter.
Sure, but since they never frick it's stretching my credibility that super charismatic Revan doesn't boink his so magnetic and attractive underling that has dark lords simping for her
That makes no sense, the Exile is probably in his thirties or so in K2, the Mando Wars were a bunch of years before, he probably was young when he went to war, I don't think he was necessarily older than Revan.
The Revan novel didn't happen and TOR didn't happen, but I did like the Exile being a woman even if the Handmaiden was a much better companion that the Disciple.
This I always felt it was more naturally they were played as male but do you guys find the dynamics and story more interesting if it was play light side but the events of the first was dark side? I always wonder if Kotor 3 was made and the choices that was made in both ending how the dynamics of Light side exile and dark side Revan would play out.
That's kind of their thing. They respect whoever can overpower them. Revan was a living legend that killed their leader 1v1 and obliterated their numbers so hard they basically became post-nuke space Japan in the outcome.
Sure, but I happen to like Nihilus before he was a mumbling autist.
2 years ago
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Zayne is Jedi Jesus. There are lines from the comic very heavily implying this. >1-1 the exact same line about forming Force Bonds extremely easily and having a middling talent with the Force at best >ends up with a cyan lightsaber, this is the only color in 2 that has special lines for the Exile's old lightsaber >ends up in a fairly high position at the start of the Mandalorian Wars, every Jedi who joined it either died or went DS or was the Exile, so those are his only possible fates >has the most extreme (good and bad) luck of all time, the plot of Kotor 2 literally can't happen without this as stated in the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That adds up. I believe it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where's his hot alien babe gf then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Died from taking BMC (Big Malak wiener).
2 years ago
Anonymous
You wish you bald simp
She's for Haired individuals only
2 years ago
Anonymous
Malak getting friendzoned by Jarael was the funniest thing I've ever seen from EU
2 years ago
Anonymous
Canonically one of the reasons he went to the Dark Side lol, it was hilarious. Also, the comic made me like Carth, how impressive is that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also, the comic made me like Carth, how impressive is that?
I don't want to talk about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nice
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also, the comic made me like Carth, how impressive is that?
I don't want to talk about it.
Why do people hate carth so bad? Am I the only normie who thought he was fine?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, I like Carth.
The only one I really cant stand is Zaalbar, but only because I hate hearing all the stock Chewbacca noises. Make some new ones, for God's sake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>trying to pull the "we'd make beautiful children" move
Has it ever worked? Revan should have taught him that the way to a woman's space heart is annoying her and being sarcastic
2 years ago
Anonymous
It probably gets old being around moralgays 24/7, even if you are one yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cast this cuck.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tom hardy
2 years ago
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>he just does Bane again
2 years ago
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I need a drawgay to do the plane scene with Carth and Malak pronto.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jared Leto
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please no more of that gay
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mads Mikkelsen on stilts
2 years ago
Anonymous
For that tall pale weirdo? Doug Jones, maybe with a muscle suit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Alek becomes Malek
Sauronman bros... were not the only ones...
2 years ago
Anonymous
A lot happened in ten years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Replaced by another white-haired warrior waifu
2 years ago
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>Spoiler
Not canon. I like Zayne being a nobody, or a corpse by the end of the war, he's more interesting that way. Shame the comic died with the Disney buyout, it was the best Dark Horse one by far, even if post Lucien the series fell off a tad
2 years ago
Anonymous
I really dug Zayne, but I wish he was more competent by the end.
Halfway through some of stories he just fricks up and kinda looks likes his character development didn't take hold
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, sometimes he's too incompetent and Jarael too strong. I didn't like the Demagol twist even though I saw it coming
2 years ago
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>Yeah, sometimes he's too incompetent and Jarael too strong.
This. It's missing a few moments for him to shine beyond his good personality (which is something that the comic needs credit for. Zayne is genuinely and realistically empathetic without turning into a generic all loving hero). That final moment could be it, with him fighting Chantal instead of Jarael and having his luck save his bacon from a deadly stalemate >I didn't like the Demagol twist even though I saw it coming
I think everyone did. Even slow people like me caught up after the 100th hint
TCW is unironically worse for the story of Star Wars than the sequels, which is an incredible feat. >In AoTC Dooku straight up tells Obi-wan that the senate is ruled by a Sith Lord >in RoTS the Jedi can sense the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine >in TCW the Jedi find out that the clone army was not ordered by a Jedi, but by the Sith >they then find out that the clones have biochips that control their behavior, including a "kill all Jedi" command >Yoda has a vision of the future in which he sees the Jedi all being killed by the clones >Maul literally just straight-up tells Ahsoka, "Palpatine is turning Anakin into a Sith to destroy the Jedi"
Ultimately you can only conclude that the Jedi deserved everything that happened because they were just that fricking stupid.
>Ultimately you can only conclude that the Jedi deserved everything that happened because they were just that fricking stupid.
You kinda get that already from the prequels alone, TCW only hammers it home. >In ATOC Dooku plainly states to Obi Wan that the Republic Senate is controlled by a Dark Lord >In TCW Dooku is discovered to have been Darth Tyrannus all along and he tells Obi Wan again that the Senate is controlled >None of the Jedi do nothing
>Isn't that common stance nowadays
Pretty much, which clearly was the the intention George wanted, no matter how much coping people do.
But the Jedi came off as such blundering morons people had to write scaffolds around it to justify it
>>in TCW the Jedi find out that the clone army was ordered by the Sith
No, Obi-Wan found out in AotC that Jango was hired by a man called Tyranus. By the time of RotS, they knew Dooku was Darth Tyranus. They knew the Sith were behind the army and the war. They couldn't do much about it other than playing it out and hoping to find Darth Sidious before his plans succeed. >>they then find out that the clones have biochips that control their behavior, including a "kill all Jedi" command
No, they don't. They found out that one clone malfunctioned and killed his CO in the heat of battle, and another clone, who removed his inhibitor chip, tried to assassinate the Chancellor and was acting unstable (because Nala Se drugged him on the way to Coruscant). As Kamioans put it, just like in AotC, the clones were modified to be more obedient and less aggressive than their host, Jango. They didn't find out anything that they hadn't already know. What they did know is that the evidence was conclusive and logical, and they couldn't really do anything against it, even if they felt uneasy about it. The clones have proven themselves over the course of the war, and they were too deep into it, they couldn't just resign their troops based on nothing. >>Yoda has a vision of the future
Always in motion is the future. Yoda is smarter than to act on his own fears. He trusted in the Force, and if it happened - it happened. He let it go and carried on with his duty, which is to study the techniques from Qui-Gon and wait for Luke. Anakin acted on his visions, and he fricked up. >>Maul tells Ahsoka, "Palpatine is turning Anakin into a Sith"
So? He had a vision, due to a strong bond he was sharing with Sidious. Perhaps, Sidious himself sent this vision to him, because the original plan was for Kenobi to go there. But he didn't go, because he's a good Jedi and doesn't let his feelings cloud his judgment.
All in all, you have no idea what you're talking about. Lucas knows better than you.
>TCW apologist strikes again >No, they don't.
Yes, they do. The Kaminoans show the chips, Fives says they can order the clones to kill the Jedi and that Palpatine is behind it, in the end the Jedi just say "we might be fricked." >Always in motion is the future.
A great excuse to not do a single fricking thing if any of it happened to be true. He could have at least made contingency plans for the order. >So?
So, Ahsoka doesn't even tell the Council what Maul said, because she just blindly trusted Anakin.
>Yes, they do
The chips, which were implanted into the clone troopers to make them more obedient and less aggressive than Jango Fett - Jedi know it. Tup's chip decayed and became a tumor in his brain, which is why he killed his Jedi. After it was removed, he died. Fives removed his chip and acted unstable. On top of that, he was drugged and tried to assassinate the Chancellor, resisted arrest and escaped. After all of that, he told Anakin of all people that Palpatine's the bad guy. Anakin, who considers Palpatine his father figure, trusts him blindly. Not gonna fly. Not after everything Fives'd done and how he made himself look. Rex listened to him, though. Deep down he believed him. The Jedi literally don't have anything to say against it: Fives removed his chip and chimped out. We told you so. Tup's was infected. The Jedi didn't watch RotS. >A great excuse to not do a single fricking thing
What contingency order? He literally entered a cave on Dagobah. He was shown his fears. He was afraid the Jedi would lose, he was afraid the Sith would succeed in their plans. It wasn't even a vision, it didn't play out exactly like that in the future. He couldn't do anything other than to trust in the Force and do his best to find Darth Sidious before it is too late. Their mistake was being manipulated into this war in the first place, they were in too deep to do anything other than playing Palatine's game, and hoping for the best. >So, Ahsoka doesn't even tell the Council
Yes, that's her character. She blindly trusts Anakin. She is attached to him and doesn't want to accept what Maul told her. And she won't endanger Anakin by saying this, because she has no idea what the Jedi will do to him, after what she's been through with them especially. Much like Padmé flat out denied and didn't want to believe a word Obi-Wan told her, and she didn't disclose Anakin's location to him.
I am seriously thinking you are low IQ. Again, Lucas knows his Star Wars better than you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The chips,
Everything you say after this is essentially the party line fed to the Jedi by all of the people they should know are conspiring against them. Again, they know the Sith ordered the clones, they know the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine, and they were told that a Sith Lord controls the senate. Why the frick would they believe that the control chips won't control the clones, when they're literally told that they do control the clones? >What contingency order?
He could at least give a warning to the Jedi that they could be betrayed, or evacuate a bunch of Jedi and younglings elsewhere in the galaxy. They did absolutely nothing. >Lucas
If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Again, they know the Sith ordered the clones, they know the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine
Am I talking to a fricking wall here? They. Can't. Do. Anything. About. It. They are balls deep into the third year of the war. They can't resign. They can't abandon their troops. They will be branded traitors. The opinion of them will plummet if people ever find out about any of it. The opinion of them is low already. All of it was literally in the episodes, explained. On top of that, the clones have proven to be valiant men, who sacrificed their lives and saved the Jedi many times. Yoda said as much. They trusted in them. Because they had no choice. That's the tragedy of it. I seriously doubt you have watched the show, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you didn't understand the films much either. >Why the frick would they believe that the control chips won't control the clones
No one said they were control chips. That was a secret. It is literally an organic part of their brain. They are clones, they are modified. Obi-Wan was literally told that in AotC, and again it was told to the Jedi here. No one told them they have some other purpose. >He could at least give a warning to the Jedi
He couldn't. There isn't anything the Jedi High Council didn't know about already. Their goal was to find Sidious. Nothing else mattered. If they failed at that, the Jedi Order would have been doomed regardless.
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>They. Can't. Do. Anything. About. It. They are balls deep into the third year of the war. They can't resign. They can't abandon their troops. They will be branded traitors. The opinion of them will plummet if people ever find out about any of it.
None of this is a reason. They're dealing with an existential threat to the galaxy and their own existence, and you worry they'll be branded traitors? Guess what, that's exactly what happened anyway, and they were caught with their pants down instead of taking the initiative. >the clones have proven to be valiant men,
They literally have mind-control chips. Blindly trusting the clones despite knowing what the Jedi did is beyond hubris, it's suicidal. >No one said they were control chips. That was a secret.
The Kaminoans literally tell the Jedi that the chips exist and modify the clones' behavior. The clones are a fricking SITH TRAP, how can the Jedi actually believe it just makes them more docile? >He couldn't.
Bullshit. He could have told the entire order to be wary of the clones, he could have moved Jedi to secret locations across the galaxy. Remember the Jedi have fricking command authority and autonomy, Anakin and Obi-wan were still going off on Council-ordered solo missions late into the war.
2 years ago
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>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series. >“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>George Lucas: "[...]There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves.[...]" — TotalFilm, 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
>George Lucas: "We've been doing [The Clone Wars] for three years. We have one year finished, we're in the middle of the second year. I've written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years."
2 years ago
Anonymous
See:
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>“I was lamenting the fact that in ‘Episode II,’ I started the Clone Wars, and in 'Episode III,’ I ended the Clone Wars, and I never actually got to do anything on the Clone Wars,” says Lucas. “It’s like skipping over World War II.”
>“‘The Clone Wars’ is a lot of fun for me, because in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, what happened during the Clone Wars is never told — we see a little of the beginning and a little of the end, but other than that, it’s skipped over,” Lucas said. “Obviously, during a war, there are lots and lots of stories, there’s action, there’s drama, there’s heartbreak and sometimes there’s comedy. Anakin was a part of the Clone Wars, so it makes a certain sense to tell these stories, because they ultimately do affect him.”
>"The interesting thing about the Clone Wars is that in the films, in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, it's skipped over. You hear about it, but you only see the very beginning and the very end of the wars. But this was a turning point for the Republic. Star Wars: The Clone Wars connects Episode II and III. As a TV series, it gives more depth and understanding about how Republic fell, and what a fantastic hero Anakin Skywalker was. We got so focused on him turning into Darth Vader that it's easy to forget that he was one of the biggest heroes of the entire Clone War. I think seeing him as a great Jedi Knight reminds you that before it gets dark and tragic, Star Wars is a fun adventure story, too." — George Lucas
Lucas never did any actual work on TCW. The team sent him animatics with episode VA, and he checked off on them and suggest details (IE "add a tube top and miniskirt"). The same exact type of input he gave for all Star Wars media that wasn't the movies themselves.
2 years ago
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>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series. >Henry Gilroy: On the first 13 episodes I wrote premises with Dave that went to George for approval, he made his notes, then we went through outline and script phase and George would see the scripts when Dave and I and Catherine were happy with them, he’d make notes and the scripts would go final. >On most shows, that would be the end of the writing process, but on Clone Wars, that’s about ‘the middle’ of the writing process, because once the episodes get into animatic story reel in editorial, Dave and George go through them, rewriting, adding and subtracting, etc... >Halfway through the first season, George was so excited with what we were doing, he came in one day with an outline and handed it to me, “Turn that into a script.” It was a story called ‘Count Dooku Captured.” From then on, George got into the writing scripting process in a big way. On season two, ALL of the story ideas came from George, except a couple that were originally written in season one by Dave and I (& Dini). Season three is the same way. >"George is the Alpha and the Omega, and is involved in the story from beginning to end. On The Clone Wars, that means from the initial story idea until the final sound mix. I knew from the moment I got the job that The Clone Wars was going to be George's show. My job was to execute his vision and I have always tried my best to do that."
Frick off TCW contradicted and in a way cheapen the impact of the prequels and the Bio Chips were one of the worse offenders of Order 66 and moronic cause literally no Jedi surgin notice a chip during bio scan and try to take it out?
The contingency orders were far superior cause the Jedi knew about and it was legal and acceptable cause neither the Clones nor Jedi thought Order 66 would be activate so when the Clones kill the Jedi they did so thinking the Jedi actually betray the Republic not knowing both Clones and Jedi were pawns. Both Travis series and the ROTS novelization WHICH LUCAS HIMSELF took hands on approach shows Clones did it on their own will.
The best thing is they cant even make this now. They ripped off revans mask for gaylo ren. And normies will be stupid enough to get confused by that.
My cousin after seeing TPM was like well that was pretty good but I don't get why luke skywalker is going off on all these adventures as a kid.
also it's about the mandalorian wars and revan isn't the main character. The main character is a random jedi who followed him into the war, Revan is barely in the movie but he is mentioned often and everyone talks about him like in kotor 2
>luke evans/christian bale as revan >kate beckinsale as bastila shan >ron perlman as canderous ordo (slightly too old but you get the idea) >ethan hawke as carth onasi >emilia clark as mission vao >freida pinto as juhani >kevin michael richardson as jolee bindo, ironically looking old enough now to play him >kristoffer tabori again as hk-47 >joseph gatt as malak >who cares about zaalbar and the 1-mission shitcan
>brainchips
Sorry, that moronic shit is not canon.
I don't give a frick what that hack George "changed his mind for the 27th time today" Lucas, who also no longer has a say in the matter, has to say about it.
Yes, it is canon. Only George Lucas's Star Wars is canon, which is 1-6 and The Clone Wars. He never changed his mind on anything: the clones were always sleeping agents, as he said, akin to Manchurian Candidate. It is evident by the movie.
This picture you've attached is beyond moronic, though. >Jango's orders
Clones are the property of the Republic and they obey the Jedi. There are no "Jango's Orders." Jango was a thug, who tried to assassinate a senator of the Republic, who tried to kill Obi-Wan, and was serving Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, up until he died at Windu's hand. Jango has bo authority. This line literally makes no fricking sense. The so-called "EU" is as legitimate as Disney's shit.
Well that's pure cope I ever seen one. Facts don't care about your feelings when it comes to author of Star Wars and his story: either take it or leave it. You do you, of course, whatever you enjoy. Just don't act stupid when you are being called out on your moronation and trying to act smart as if you understand Star Wars better than the man who created it. This attitude gave us the ST. At least your hatred for Lucas is evident and open now: no different than RLMlets.
Good point. Why hasn't he addressed the fans? All he's been doing is crying about how he sold his baby to le white slavers like he didn't know what was gonna happen.
Good point. Why hasn't he addressed the fans? All he's been doing is crying about how he sold his baby to le white slavers like he didn't know what was gonna happen.
Exactly I hate disney wars as much as the next person, that still doesn't change the fact George sold it to these people, why couldn't he sell it to Fox they were with him from the beginning if he sold to Fox they wouldn't have sold their ips to disney anyway. Same Paramount and Marvel, Marvel was willing to sell to them but those fricking israelites in viacom was so penny pinching they focus their money on ruining YT with their copyright bullshit and now both Marvel and YT is ruined because their israelite nature. Same with SW the only reason he was willing to sell to Bob israelite Igor(the worse CEO in disney history the man probably ruined 2d animation and brought a the gay woke shit today) was cause he bailed Lucas out in the 90s when the Young Indy adventures were cancelled by ABC. That's one of the biggest reason he sold to him in the first place.
Im sure TCW is more a Dave Gayloni product than George Lucas but they sell it as Lucas canon so fanboys can eat it more Lucas was done with Star Wars after Episode 3
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series. >“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>George Lucas: "[...]There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves.[...]" — TotalFilm, 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
>George Lucas: "We've been doing [The Clone Wars] for three years. We have one year finished, we're in the middle of the second year. I've written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years."
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series. >Henry Gilroy: On the first 13 episodes I wrote premises with Dave that went to George for approval, he made his notes, then we went through outline and script phase and George would see the scripts when Dave and I and Catherine were happy with them, he’d make notes and the scripts would go final. >On most shows, that would be the end of the writing process, but on Clone Wars, that’s about ‘the middle’ of the writing process, because once the episodes get into animatic story reel in editorial, Dave and George go through them, rewriting, adding and subtracting, etc... >Halfway through the first season, George was so excited with what we were doing, he came in one day with an outline and handed it to me, “Turn that into a script.” It was a story called ‘Count Dooku Captured.” From then on, George got into the writing scripting process in a big way. On season two, ALL of the story ideas came from George, except a couple that were originally written in season one by Dave and I (& Dini). Season three is the same way. >"George is the Alpha and the Omega, and is involved in the story from beginning to end. On The Clone Wars, that means from the initial story idea until the final sound mix. I knew from the moment I got the job that The Clone Wars was going to be George's show. My job was to execute his vision and I have always tried my best to do that."
>“I was lamenting the fact that in ‘Episode II,’ I started the Clone Wars, and in 'Episode III,’ I ended the Clone Wars, and I never actually got to do anything on the Clone Wars,” says Lucas. “It’s like skipping over World War II.”
>“‘The Clone Wars’ is a lot of fun for me, because in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, what happened during the Clone Wars is never told — we see a little of the beginning and a little of the end, but other than that, it’s skipped over,” Lucas said. “Obviously, during a war, there are lots and lots of stories, there’s action, there’s drama, there’s heartbreak and sometimes there’s comedy. Anakin was a part of the Clone Wars, so it makes a certain sense to tell these stories, because they ultimately do affect him.”
>"The interesting thing about the Clone Wars is that in the films, in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, it's skipped over. You hear about it, but you only see the very beginning and the very end of the wars. But this was a turning point for the Republic. Star Wars: The Clone Wars connects Episode II and III. As a TV series, it gives more depth and understanding about how Republic fell, and what a fantastic hero Anakin Skywalker was. We got so focused on him turning into Darth Vader that it's easy to forget that he was one of the biggest heroes of the entire Clone War. I think seeing him as a great Jedi Knight reminds you that before it gets dark and tragic, Star Wars is a fun adventure story, too." — George Lucas
>don't like
But that's not what happened here.
See:
Im sure TCW is more a Dave Gayloni product than George Lucas but they sell it as Lucas canon so fanboys can eat it more Lucas was done with Star Wars after Episode 3
>Lucas was done >I am sure of it it was not his project
>The chips,
Everything you say after this is essentially the party line fed to the Jedi by all of the people they should know are conspiring against them. Again, they know the Sith ordered the clones, they know the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine, and they were told that a Sith Lord controls the senate. Why the frick would they believe that the control chips won't control the clones, when they're literally told that they do control the clones? >What contingency order?
He could at least give a warning to the Jedi that they could be betrayed, or evacuate a bunch of Jedi and younglings elsewhere in the galaxy. They did absolutely nothing. >Lucas
If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
This is not someone saying they like something or not, I don't care about it. It's homosexuals lying, and then recoiling and strawmanning when faced with many facts that directly disprove their shitposts.
I don't care if Lucas fricking licked every TCW reel.
It sucks anyway.
That is why the only defense it homosexual fans have is nonsensical walls of text and saying Lucas was involved in it
Personally I like TCW but I can understand why people don't. I just ignore the shitposts about it and move on.
I've seen this "person" in way too many Star Wars threads doing the same shit over and over for years like a legit insane person. It's incredibly pathetic and you have to have some sort of autism to not have a hint of self awareness to stop and think where your time could be better spent than arguing with a bunch of shitposters about your favorite cartoon.
Frick, I'm embarrassed to like the same show as you.
You're on Cinemaphile, homosexual. Autism comes with the package. If there were more autistic people like it used to be, and less plebbit tourists who have infested this shithole, the board would not have fricking plummeted.
Anybody who likes TCW enough to go into each and every Star Wars thread and whitenight it is a homosexual redditor. It's not the kind of autism that makes this place fun, moron.
Exile is only a girl in the Revan novel and ToR, which is widely regarded as terrible, condescending fan fiction.
TSL's marketing always portrayed the Exile as a male, and was Jedi Jesus in promotional art and the trailer, explicitally gendered by the narrator: >"But there is one thing standing in our way... One last Jedi... Who has yet to choose HIS true role in the galaxy." >"If HE joins us on the path to darkness... Those who fight alongside HIM will follow. But if HE takes the path of a Jedi, those who join HIM will feel the vengeance of the dark side."
Weird since the Revan novel and ToR, the only 2 pieces of media where Meetra Surik exists don't consider 2 actually canon since it misunderstands it so hard that it butchers it out of spite.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>star wars novels >canon >ever
lmao I bet you think Chewbacca is dead
2 years ago
Anonymous
So now Meetra doesn't exist? So my point still stands. Exile is male, Obsidian clearly marketed the game to be played as a male.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would you want Chewbacca to be alive to witness the sequels?
There is no canon Revan. The only Revan ever canonized was TOR for a while, then that stopped being canon... And by the way it was mulleman with a beard. Otherwise, there is no canon Revan. People need to stop arguing moronic shit.
That range would make sense, given that he already had an entire war general and sith lord career under his belt at the start of Kotor, yet still young enough to do action scenes and not look shit at it.
Idris Elba
Chace Crawford
Pretty good, actually.
Nice
homosexuals deserve the rope
I agree, but I'm not sure what has to do with my post.
This thread is just homos posting who they like to jerk off to. Disgusting.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit.
Alexander Dreymon
Who would Hollywood pick from this template?
>bottom right corner
JUST
I'm convinced soulpatch man is the canonical Revan.
>KotOR was meant to be played as a male
>soulpatch is the only unique male model with a scar and grows a goatee when turning DS
>grows a goatee
wtf I never noticed that
This homosexual is canon Revan
I mean it makes sense, it just isn't as good. Atris for one having this ideal admiration of you instead of being in love is objectively worse.
Based.
>thinks the j*wish mulletman is canon Revan instead of the chad soulpatchman
>FemRevan sympathizer
Opinion discarded.
The only way I could ever stomach Revan being a shit character is literally making him a woman so I could distance myself from him.
lol, when i was younger i always played the middle right girl character. i really should have figured it out sooner
2nd column
bottom row
Frick bros why were the 2000’s so based?
Last time the west had a standout culture until the late '00s. Everything's been the same since.
My Revan was fourth row, third from the left. His name was Saron Jast, which was the first name that came up from the random name gen.
Hollywood would pick second row second last. The dumpiest plainest Black person female.
Everyone picked mulletman.
Nah, I picked soulpatch man because I look like him.
Not true, I picked the Chinaman on the far left of the third row for my first playthrough. I never got past Dantooine with him though and restarted with mulletman because I got sick of playing support classes.
4th row bugman is better. In my mind it's either him or mulletman. The exile should be space jesus.
I picked short haired doofus from bottom right
Nope. I've done playthroughs only with soul patch, top right and middle right.
Mulletman is canon Revan
My Revan was the very first female portrait. My Exile was Jedi Jesus. Then they made it canon that Revan is a man and the Exile a foid. Frick SW srsly.
Fem Revan makes the Carth romance path even hotter ngl.
some irl troony. The star wars gaydom will finally kill themselves from their seethe build up
>him
Revan is a girl m8
Nope. Revan and the exile are both white men.
Revan novel didn't happen.
TOR didn't happen.
The Revan novel didn't happen and TOR didn't happen, but I did like the Exile being a woman even if the Handmaiden was a much better companion that the Disciple.
I agree only because there was this one Space Asian model I liked in KotoR 2. And, as a wise man once said, always go for Space Asians.
Exile doesn't work as a woman at all when I replayed the game some time ago. So many of the game related shit doesn't mesh. The Handmaiden, Visas Marr, Kreia and Atris who is in love with you. Like none of it makes sense if you're playing a female version of the Exile.
>can't into yuri
Pleb.
The dynamic with Kreia and Atton feels better (you can even establish more parallels too), but not the rest. I've played with the mods that make all the women fall for you, but it still makes it weird how everyone is obsessed with getting in your pants
The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
>mfw have been playing Jedi Jesus since release
>mfw didn't even know Disciple was a possible party member until a few years ago
Feels good not being a homosexual
>not downloading partyswap
I don't know if there's an equivalent for Mira/Hanhaar though.
Disciple is the only Kotor companion I can't really talk or care about. Bao-Dur's remote was more interesting than him
I don't remember much about FemExile gameplay except Sion and Atton being simps
I've never played a female Exile and can't imagine how Kreia would behave around a female protagonist. Her berating masculine behavior made her character more interesting to me.
>female General
Frick off, bro.
Seethe harder. The exile is stronger than revan and has a vag. Your power fantasy is over. Grow up. You are like 35 now anyways.
If Kotor was ever made into a movie series 1 and 2 should be combined into the same storyline. 1 doesn't have the plot density to support a trilogy of movies, and 2 doesn't have a real overarching "Star Wars" adventure. Both together would be a perfect balance.
Also Malak is an absolutely shitty villain on his own. Combine him with Scion and you have a pretty great antagonist.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
But what if you could Force Storm it straight?
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>1 and 2 should be combined into the same storyline
?
They are the same storyline, anon.
I mean literally combining the plots of 1 and 2.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Back when I played TOR, I imagined the Jedi Knight story is basically Revan seeking out the "true Sith", finding their Empire, as they decide to reveal themselves and go to war. Consular was headcanoned into the Exile, whose adventures don't quite cross "Revan's" but they still contribute to the overall effort to ultimately take down the Sith emperor on Ziost. Then we learn about Valkorion and his new Empire, "Revan" seeks him out, but gets captured at some point and "Exile" frees him. Instead of "Revan" disappearing into light bubbles like a chump, him and "Exile" both pair up, build up the Alliance forces (Knights of the fallen Empire) and kick Valkorion's ass once and for all. That marks the end for me and I didn't bother with Iokath and beyond. Somewhere in there the other classes have their own spin off adventures, interweaving with the overall story as alternate POV characters for flavor. I'm pretty happy with my headcanon Kotor Saga.
Pretty sure the Exile is a girl but ok
They're both cute girls. t. played the games.
Exile is only a girl in the Revan novel and ToR, which is widely regarded as terrible, condescending fan fiction.
TSL's marketing always portrayed the Exile as a male, and was Jedi Jesus in promotional art and the trailer, explicitally gendered by the narrator:
>"But there is one thing standing in our way... One last Jedi... Who has yet to choose HIS true role in the galaxy."
>"If HE joins us on the path to darkness... Those who fight alongside HIM will follow. But if HE takes the path of a Jedi, those who join HIM will feel the vengeance of the dark side."
Why the developers didn't allow the exile to have sex with Mira?
But you can.
I love this thread and I love this post.
Briana was so much better than Mical, and I can’t believe I forgot that the very intro canonically makes the exile a male as well
>him
I distinctly remember Revan being female when I played KOTOR, on account of me making my character female in the beginning of the game. My playthrough is the only canon one. Your non-canon playthroughs can frick off.
Having them both be male also has some dynamics
By dialog option and presets, you get rhe feeling that The Exile is older and more straitlaced than the younger and laid back Revan, which an interesting dynamic of a younger and more personally immature jedi being this phenomenal prodigy and war leader that even older jedi follow him
Kinda turns them into Obi and Anakin in a sense, which is alright. Still, even if the execution is not that great, I like the idea of The Exile being an older, more experienced woman because that's hotter.
>an older, more experienced woman
But that's what Kreia's for.
>because that's hotter
I said what I said.
That's more maternal than sexual, unless you're into that. She lectures a lot, and I like the idea of a character taking over the role of a mentor, which is what you do in the end of the game anyway. The motherly aspect is easier to grasp with a female Exile I suppose
There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him, but I get you.
>There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him
And that's what Bastila's for.
My life for yours
>she canonically has shorter dark hair under that hood, like Elastigirl's
Diamonds.
My Sith Assassin Can't Be This Cute!
>Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.
>has eye sockets
kind of surprised, I thought she'd be spookier and have nothing eye related whatsoever
Artistic license maybe, I think no sockets would look better
Miraluka were humans not that long ago, they have eye sockets as vestigial organs, but no eyes.
Apparently, Nihilus's visions were devastating enough to cause Visas sockets to implode
>big gaping pitch black holes in her face
>still looks cute
how does she do it?
Five holes. 18 in a pinch.
>There's something sexual about a woman following a man's every command and be willing to commit genocide for him
Indeed?
Her voice was pure sex
Even Azula couldn't compete
>because that's hotter.
Sure, but since they never frick it's stretching my credibility that super charismatic Revan doesn't boink his so magnetic and attractive underling that has dark lords simping for her
That makes no sense, the Exile is probably in his thirties or so in K2, the Mando Wars were a bunch of years before, he probably was young when he went to war, I don't think he was necessarily older than Revan.
>That makes no sense
It makes plenty of sense, you're just gay and homosexual
This I always felt it was more naturally they were played as male but do you guys find the dynamics and story more interesting if it was play light side but the events of the first was dark side? I always wonder if Kotor 3 was made and the choices that was made in both ending how the dynamics of Light side exile and dark side Revan would play out.
I really wish we could have been in the timeline where 3 was a thing and somehow managed to incorporate the choices you made along the past 2 games.
I really wish we actually had the Truth Sith the way Avolone envisioned.
Essentially Lovecraftian gods who powers dwarf Nilhius. I would made them pure horror.
>Lovecraftian
lmao why did soiboys in the 2000s love Lovecraft so much>
Why do soiboys in the 2020s hate Lovecraft when they find out about his cat's name?
IDC I want Sith Lords that are unconventional and unorthodox.
Alright alright, I'm just saying, she could have been a man.
A young Robert Vaughn
any stunt double and keep the mask on 100% of the time
You realize he can't keep the mask on or the story wouldn't make sense, right?
Top choice Oscar Isaac plan b Ryan Corr
>Oscar Isaac
I seriously doubt he would ever be interested to work on Star Wars again.
>Ryan Corr
A bit too s.oy looking, but not bad.
They would probably make him black
They would probably keep Revan white and make Bastila a mulatto.
>My name's Canderous of the Mandalorian Clan Ordo. I've been fighting across the galaxy for 40 of your years.
Guaranteed perfect cast.
That's why they would never do it.
This guy sucks Revan's wiener so much. He really is a buck broken homosexual.
That's kind of their thing. They respect whoever can overpower them. Revan was a living legend that killed their leader 1v1 and obliterated their numbers so hard they basically became post-nuke space Japan in the outcome.
Yeh I bet he handles himself while thinking of Revan lol.
Scott Eastwood
I don't really understand how Scott Eastwood is such a failure.
Wouldn't matter because in my version he wouldn't take the mask off.
So you'd just have amnesiac Revan still have his mask on the entire time?
Kek, I'd watch it.
Why would I make a remake of a game? I'd just go prequel or sequel.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit.
A Zayne Carrick series does sound nice.
That's called Kotor 2.
Sure, but I happen to like Nihilus before he was a mumbling autist.
Zayne is Jedi Jesus. There are lines from the comic very heavily implying this.
>1-1 the exact same line about forming Force Bonds extremely easily and having a middling talent with the Force at best
>ends up with a cyan lightsaber, this is the only color in 2 that has special lines for the Exile's old lightsaber
>ends up in a fairly high position at the start of the Mandalorian Wars, every Jedi who joined it either died or went DS or was the Exile, so those are his only possible fates
>has the most extreme (good and bad) luck of all time, the plot of Kotor 2 literally can't happen without this as stated in the game.
That adds up. I believe it.
Where's his hot alien babe gf then?
Died from taking BMC (Big Malak wiener).
You wish you bald simp
She's for Haired individuals only
Malak getting friendzoned by Jarael was the funniest thing I've ever seen from EU
Canonically one of the reasons he went to the Dark Side lol, it was hilarious. Also, the comic made me like Carth, how impressive is that?
>Also, the comic made me like Carth, how impressive is that?
I don't want to talk about it.
nice
Why do people hate carth so bad? Am I the only normie who thought he was fine?
Nah, I like Carth.
The only one I really cant stand is Zaalbar, but only because I hate hearing all the stock Chewbacca noises. Make some new ones, for God's sake.
>trying to pull the "we'd make beautiful children" move
Has it ever worked? Revan should have taught him that the way to a woman's space heart is annoying her and being sarcastic
It probably gets old being around moralgays 24/7, even if you are one yourself.
Cast this cuck.
Tom hardy
>he just does Bane again
I need a drawgay to do the plane scene with Carth and Malak pronto.
Jared Leto
Please no more of that gay
Mads Mikkelsen on stilts
For that tall pale weirdo? Doug Jones, maybe with a muscle suit
>Alek becomes Malek
Sauronman bros... were not the only ones...
A lot happened in ten years.
Replaced by another white-haired warrior waifu
>Spoiler
Not canon. I like Zayne being a nobody, or a corpse by the end of the war, he's more interesting that way. Shame the comic died with the Disney buyout, it was the best Dark Horse one by far, even if post Lucien the series fell off a tad
I really dug Zayne, but I wish he was more competent by the end.
Halfway through some of stories he just fricks up and kinda looks likes his character development didn't take hold
Yeah, sometimes he's too incompetent and Jarael too strong. I didn't like the Demagol twist even though I saw it coming
>Yeah, sometimes he's too incompetent and Jarael too strong.
This. It's missing a few moments for him to shine beyond his good personality (which is something that the comic needs credit for. Zayne is genuinely and realistically empathetic without turning into a generic all loving hero). That final moment could be it, with him fighting Chantal instead of Jarael and having his luck save his bacon from a deadly stalemate
>I didn't like the Demagol twist even though I saw it coming
I think everyone did. Even slow people like me caught up after the 100th hint
literally anyone, they'd just cover he/she/they/xey with some cgi armor and synthesize a voice.
KOTOR, especially Revan is overrated and its story is not really suitable for movie adaptation
Revan is (You) so it's only overrated if you made shit choices. I'm sorry that you had a bad playthrough.
This. I really don't like Revan as a character even if I love the games.
Warwick Davis
Keep it STAR WARS related, please.
based edit but Warwick Davis has been in multiple Star Wars films, anon
How many of those characters has Anakin/Vader met? Don't worry, my edit is canon
young greedo in episode 1
Shut the frick up reddit
Mira is the best girl
And then all the cucks who want to jerk off to cartoon girls showed up.
Could be worse, they could be TCWgays.
TCW is unironically worse for the story of Star Wars than the sequels, which is an incredible feat.
>In AoTC Dooku straight up tells Obi-wan that the senate is ruled by a Sith Lord
>in RoTS the Jedi can sense the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine
>in TCW the Jedi find out that the clone army was not ordered by a Jedi, but by the Sith
>they then find out that the clones have biochips that control their behavior, including a "kill all Jedi" command
>Yoda has a vision of the future in which he sees the Jedi all being killed by the clones
>Maul literally just straight-up tells Ahsoka, "Palpatine is turning Anakin into a Sith to destroy the Jedi"
Ultimately you can only conclude that the Jedi deserved everything that happened because they were just that fricking stupid.
>Ultimately you can only conclude that the Jedi deserved everything that happened because they were just that fricking stupid.
Isn't that common stance nowadays lol Traviss couldn't have done better job denigrating the Jedi
>Ultimately you can only conclude that the Jedi deserved everything that happened because they were just that fricking stupid.
You kinda get that already from the prequels alone, TCW only hammers it home.
>In ATOC Dooku plainly states to Obi Wan that the Republic Senate is controlled by a Dark Lord
>In TCW Dooku is discovered to have been Darth Tyrannus all along and he tells Obi Wan again that the Senate is controlled
>None of the Jedi do nothing
They were told specifically because being told that, they wouldn't believe it.
>Isn't that common stance nowadays
Pretty much, which clearly was the the intention George wanted, no matter how much coping people do.
But the Jedi came off as such blundering morons people had to write scaffolds around it to justify it
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>>in TCW the Jedi find out that the clone army was ordered by the Sith
No, Obi-Wan found out in AotC that Jango was hired by a man called Tyranus. By the time of RotS, they knew Dooku was Darth Tyranus. They knew the Sith were behind the army and the war. They couldn't do much about it other than playing it out and hoping to find Darth Sidious before his plans succeed.
>>they then find out that the clones have biochips that control their behavior, including a "kill all Jedi" command
No, they don't. They found out that one clone malfunctioned and killed his CO in the heat of battle, and another clone, who removed his inhibitor chip, tried to assassinate the Chancellor and was acting unstable (because Nala Se drugged him on the way to Coruscant). As Kamioans put it, just like in AotC, the clones were modified to be more obedient and less aggressive than their host, Jango. They didn't find out anything that they hadn't already know. What they did know is that the evidence was conclusive and logical, and they couldn't really do anything against it, even if they felt uneasy about it. The clones have proven themselves over the course of the war, and they were too deep into it, they couldn't just resign their troops based on nothing.
>>Yoda has a vision of the future
Always in motion is the future. Yoda is smarter than to act on his own fears. He trusted in the Force, and if it happened - it happened. He let it go and carried on with his duty, which is to study the techniques from Qui-Gon and wait for Luke. Anakin acted on his visions, and he fricked up.
>>Maul tells Ahsoka, "Palpatine is turning Anakin into a Sith"
So? He had a vision, due to a strong bond he was sharing with Sidious. Perhaps, Sidious himself sent this vision to him, because the original plan was for Kenobi to go there. But he didn't go, because he's a good Jedi and doesn't let his feelings cloud his judgment.
All in all, you have no idea what you're talking about. Lucas knows better than you.
>TCW apologist strikes again
>No, they don't.
Yes, they do. The Kaminoans show the chips, Fives says they can order the clones to kill the Jedi and that Palpatine is behind it, in the end the Jedi just say "we might be fricked."
>Always in motion is the future.
A great excuse to not do a single fricking thing if any of it happened to be true. He could have at least made contingency plans for the order.
>So?
So, Ahsoka doesn't even tell the Council what Maul said, because she just blindly trusted Anakin.
>Yes, they do
The chips, which were implanted into the clone troopers to make them more obedient and less aggressive than Jango Fett - Jedi know it. Tup's chip decayed and became a tumor in his brain, which is why he killed his Jedi. After it was removed, he died. Fives removed his chip and acted unstable. On top of that, he was drugged and tried to assassinate the Chancellor, resisted arrest and escaped. After all of that, he told Anakin of all people that Palpatine's the bad guy. Anakin, who considers Palpatine his father figure, trusts him blindly. Not gonna fly. Not after everything Fives'd done and how he made himself look. Rex listened to him, though. Deep down he believed him. The Jedi literally don't have anything to say against it: Fives removed his chip and chimped out. We told you so. Tup's was infected. The Jedi didn't watch RotS.
>A great excuse to not do a single fricking thing
What contingency order? He literally entered a cave on Dagobah. He was shown his fears. He was afraid the Jedi would lose, he was afraid the Sith would succeed in their plans. It wasn't even a vision, it didn't play out exactly like that in the future. He couldn't do anything other than to trust in the Force and do his best to find Darth Sidious before it is too late. Their mistake was being manipulated into this war in the first place, they were in too deep to do anything other than playing Palatine's game, and hoping for the best.
>So, Ahsoka doesn't even tell the Council
Yes, that's her character. She blindly trusts Anakin. She is attached to him and doesn't want to accept what Maul told her. And she won't endanger Anakin by saying this, because she has no idea what the Jedi will do to him, after what she's been through with them especially. Much like Padmé flat out denied and didn't want to believe a word Obi-Wan told her, and she didn't disclose Anakin's location to him.
I am seriously thinking you are low IQ. Again, Lucas knows his Star Wars better than you.
>The chips,
Everything you say after this is essentially the party line fed to the Jedi by all of the people they should know are conspiring against them. Again, they know the Sith ordered the clones, they know the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine, and they were told that a Sith Lord controls the senate. Why the frick would they believe that the control chips won't control the clones, when they're literally told that they do control the clones?
>What contingency order?
He could at least give a warning to the Jedi that they could be betrayed, or evacuate a bunch of Jedi and younglings elsewhere in the galaxy. They did absolutely nothing.
>Lucas
If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
>Again, they know the Sith ordered the clones, they know the Dark Side surrounds Palpatine
Am I talking to a fricking wall here? They. Can't. Do. Anything. About. It. They are balls deep into the third year of the war. They can't resign. They can't abandon their troops. They will be branded traitors. The opinion of them will plummet if people ever find out about any of it. The opinion of them is low already. All of it was literally in the episodes, explained. On top of that, the clones have proven to be valiant men, who sacrificed their lives and saved the Jedi many times. Yoda said as much. They trusted in them. Because they had no choice. That's the tragedy of it. I seriously doubt you have watched the show, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you didn't understand the films much either.
>Why the frick would they believe that the control chips won't control the clones
No one said they were control chips. That was a secret. It is literally an organic part of their brain. They are clones, they are modified. Obi-Wan was literally told that in AotC, and again it was told to the Jedi here. No one told them they have some other purpose.
>He could at least give a warning to the Jedi
He couldn't. There isn't anything the Jedi High Council didn't know about already. Their goal was to find Sidious. Nothing else mattered. If they failed at that, the Jedi Order would have been doomed regardless.
>They. Can't. Do. Anything. About. It. They are balls deep into the third year of the war. They can't resign. They can't abandon their troops. They will be branded traitors. The opinion of them will plummet if people ever find out about any of it.
None of this is a reason. They're dealing with an existential threat to the galaxy and their own existence, and you worry they'll be branded traitors? Guess what, that's exactly what happened anyway, and they were caught with their pants down instead of taking the initiative.
>the clones have proven to be valiant men,
They literally have mind-control chips. Blindly trusting the clones despite knowing what the Jedi did is beyond hubris, it's suicidal.
>No one said they were control chips. That was a secret.
The Kaminoans literally tell the Jedi that the chips exist and modify the clones' behavior. The clones are a fricking SITH TRAP, how can the Jedi actually believe it just makes them more docile?
>He couldn't.
Bullshit. He could have told the entire order to be wary of the clones, he could have moved Jedi to secret locations across the galaxy. Remember the Jedi have fricking command authority and autonomy, Anakin and Obi-wan were still going off on Council-ordered solo missions late into the war.
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
>“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>George Lucas: "[...]There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves.[...]" — TotalFilm, 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
>George Lucas: "We've been doing [The Clone Wars] for three years. We have one year finished, we're in the middle of the second year. I've written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years."
Lucas never did any actual work on TCW. The team sent him animatics with episode VA, and he checked off on them and suggest details (IE "add a tube top and miniskirt"). The same exact type of input he gave for all Star Wars media that wasn't the movies themselves.
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
>Henry Gilroy: On the first 13 episodes I wrote premises with Dave that went to George for approval, he made his notes, then we went through outline and script phase and George would see the scripts when Dave and I and Catherine were happy with them, he’d make notes and the scripts would go final.
>On most shows, that would be the end of the writing process, but on Clone Wars, that’s about ‘the middle’ of the writing process, because once the episodes get into animatic story reel in editorial, Dave and George go through them, rewriting, adding and subtracting, etc...
>Halfway through the first season, George was so excited with what we were doing, he came in one day with an outline and handed it to me, “Turn that into a script.” It was a story called ‘Count Dooku Captured.” From then on, George got into the writing scripting process in a big way. On season two, ALL of the story ideas came from George, except a couple that were originally written in season one by Dave and I (& Dini). Season three is the same way.
>"George is the Alpha and the Omega, and is involved in the story from beginning to end. On The Clone Wars, that means from the initial story idea until the final sound mix. I knew from the moment I got the job that The Clone Wars was going to be George's show. My job was to execute his vision and I have always tried my best to do that."
OH god the TCW filoni cuck is here.
Frick off TCW contradicted and in a way cheapen the impact of the prequels and the Bio Chips were one of the worse offenders of Order 66 and moronic cause literally no Jedi surgin notice a chip during bio scan and try to take it out?
The contingency orders were far superior cause the Jedi knew about and it was legal and acceptable cause neither the Clones nor Jedi thought Order 66 would be activate so when the Clones kill the Jedi they did so thinking the Jedi actually betray the Republic not knowing both Clones and Jedi were pawns. Both Travis series and the ROTS novelization WHICH LUCAS HIMSELF took hands on approach shows Clones did it on their own will.
Skarsgard
Unironically? Johnny Depp with long jet black hair, or Mads Mikkelsen with the same.
it doesn't matter, the mask stays on the whole movie
The best thing is they cant even make this now. They ripped off revans mask for gaylo ren. And normies will be stupid enough to get confused by that.
My cousin after seeing TPM was like well that was pretty good but I don't get why luke skywalker is going off on all these adventures as a kid.
based just get some stuntman that is really good at fencing and dub the voice in
use a different voice actor for each language
also it's about the mandalorian wars and revan isn't the main character. The main character is a random jedi who followed him into the war, Revan is barely in the movie but he is mentioned often and everyone talks about him like in kotor 2
>luke evans/christian bale as revan
>kate beckinsale as bastila shan
>ron perlman as canderous ordo (slightly too old but you get the idea)
>ethan hawke as carth onasi
>emilia clark as mission vao
>freida pinto as juhani
>kevin michael richardson as jolee bindo, ironically looking old enough now to play him
>kristoffer tabori again as hk-47
>joseph gatt as malak
>who cares about zaalbar and the 1-mission shitcan
>Alec Baldwin and OJ Simpson as the guys in the Dantooine murder mystery
Amazing. Every choice is wrong.
>brainchips
Sorry, that moronic shit is not canon.
I don't give a frick what that hack George "changed his mind for the 27th time today" Lucas, who also no longer has a say in the matter, has to say about it.
Yes, it is canon. Only George Lucas's Star Wars is canon, which is 1-6 and The Clone Wars. He never changed his mind on anything: the clones were always sleeping agents, as he said, akin to Manchurian Candidate. It is evident by the movie.
This picture you've attached is beyond moronic, though.
>Jango's orders
Clones are the property of the Republic and they obey the Jedi. There are no "Jango's Orders." Jango was a thug, who tried to assassinate a senator of the Republic, who tried to kill Obi-Wan, and was serving Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, up until he died at Windu's hand. Jango has bo authority. This line literally makes no fricking sense. The so-called "EU" is as legitimate as Disney's shit.
Didn't read. I decide what's canon now.
Frick George and people that still defend him after he sold out to the israelites.
BuT George wAs GoOmEr
Well that's pure cope I ever seen one. Facts don't care about your feelings when it comes to author of Star Wars and his story: either take it or leave it. You do you, of course, whatever you enjoy. Just don't act stupid when you are being called out on your moronation and trying to act smart as if you understand Star Wars better than the man who created it. This attitude gave us the ST. At least your hatred for Lucas is evident and open now: no different than RLMlets.
Didn't read again. George sucks my balls and owes me and everyone else who defended him an apology for selling out.
Good point. Why hasn't he addressed the fans? All he's been doing is crying about how he sold his baby to le white slavers like he didn't know what was gonna happen.
Exactly I hate disney wars as much as the next person, that still doesn't change the fact George sold it to these people, why couldn't he sell it to Fox they were with him from the beginning if he sold to Fox they wouldn't have sold their ips to disney anyway. Same Paramount and Marvel, Marvel was willing to sell to them but those fricking israelites in viacom was so penny pinching they focus their money on ruining YT with their copyright bullshit and now both Marvel and YT is ruined because their israelite nature. Same with SW the only reason he was willing to sell to Bob israelite Igor(the worse CEO in disney history the man probably ruined 2d animation and brought a the gay woke shit today) was cause he bailed Lucas out in the 90s when the Young Indy adventures were cancelled by ABC. That's one of the biggest reason he sold to him in the first place.
Like imagine Marvel under paramount? Imagine no Josh Weden comedy? Imagine Infinity War under Paramount cinema.
Im sure TCW is more a Dave Gayloni product than George Lucas but they sell it as Lucas canon so fanboys can eat it more Lucas was done with Star Wars after Episode 3
See:
>“I was lamenting the fact that in ‘Episode II,’ I started the Clone Wars, and in 'Episode III,’ I ended the Clone Wars, and I never actually got to do anything on the Clone Wars,” says Lucas. “It’s like skipping over World War II.”
>“‘The Clone Wars’ is a lot of fun for me, because in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, what happened during the Clone Wars is never told — we see a little of the beginning and a little of the end, but other than that, it’s skipped over,” Lucas said. “Obviously, during a war, there are lots and lots of stories, there’s action, there’s drama, there’s heartbreak and sometimes there’s comedy. Anakin was a part of the Clone Wars, so it makes a certain sense to tell these stories, because they ultimately do affect him.”
>"The interesting thing about the Clone Wars is that in the films, in the normal course of the Skywalker saga, it's skipped over. You hear about it, but you only see the very beginning and the very end of the wars. But this was a turning point for the Republic. Star Wars: The Clone Wars connects Episode II and III. As a TV series, it gives more depth and understanding about how Republic fell, and what a fantastic hero Anakin Skywalker was. We got so focused on him turning into Darth Vader that it's easy to forget that he was one of the biggest heroes of the entire Clone War. I think seeing him as a great Jedi Knight reminds you that before it gets dark and tragic, Star Wars is a fun adventure story, too." — George Lucas
>There are no "Jango's Orders."
In context that's an ARC trooper trained by Jango who taught them to value loyalty above everything else.
I'd take having good Clone characters over them all being dumb as frick but you do you
>good Clone characters
So you're also a CWMMP enjoyer? Glad you agree.
>dumb as frick
They were just indoctrinated. TCW fricked up by showing them being way too human way too much.
cast him
Whoever does it has to be willing to get in full practical makeup
Sam Heughan
KOTOR 1 will be 20 years old Next Year
KOTOR is more Old than most Zoomers
>all these old ass actors
Reminder that male Rey (Revan) was just 25.
Spare the homosexual brackets reddit Black person
>Spare the homosexual brackets reddit Black person
I'll skip hard mode and go with Keanu
>chuds are still mad that the exile is a canonically female who has a thing for rogue ex-siths
Seethe more
>Lucas has a God complex and a bunch of yes men to suck up to him on a dime.
Riveting.
>Finally some comfy SW thread
>CWMMP vs TCW bullshit all over again
Blame the Lucas/Filonigay. He always comes to these threads looking for a fight.
>fight
All I see is EUgays seething and recoiling when faced with facts.
We're not the ones posting textwalls every time someone says they don't like TCW.
>don't like
But that's not what happened here.
See:
>Lucas was done
>I am sure of it it was not his project
>If you think Lucas was actually creatively involved in TCW, you don't know a thing. He never wrote a single word in the series.
This is not someone saying they like something or not, I don't care about it. It's homosexuals lying, and then recoiling and strawmanning when faced with many facts that directly disprove their shitposts.
I don't care if Lucas fricking licked every TCW reel.
It sucks anyway.
That is why the only defense it homosexual fans have is nonsensical walls of text and saying Lucas was involved in it
George Clooney
Personally I like TCW but I can understand why people don't. I just ignore the shitposts about it and move on.
I've seen this "person" in way too many Star Wars threads doing the same shit over and over for years like a legit insane person. It's incredibly pathetic and you have to have some sort of autism to not have a hint of self awareness to stop and think where your time could be better spent than arguing with a bunch of shitposters about your favorite cartoon.
Frick, I'm embarrassed to like the same show as you.
You're on Cinemaphile, homosexual. Autism comes with the package. If there were more autistic people like it used to be, and less plebbit tourists who have infested this shithole, the board would not have fricking plummeted.
Anybody who likes TCW enough to go into each and every Star Wars thread and whitenight it is a homosexual redditor. It's not the kind of autism that makes this place fun, moron.
>muh TCW
It's not even about it. Go back to /b/, you moronic wienersucker.
It's the inciting topic every single time. Frick off back whatever corporate approved goyslop site you came from, your vacation's over.
>You're on Cinemaphile
Frick off, tourist.
Frick this wienerriding gay. Back to the comfy KOTOR thread.
If spiritual successor of KOTOR set in other universe is ever made, what would you expect? What improvements would you like?
>another universe
Outside of Star Wars? I don't think I'd be interested, since KotOR is central to Star Wars for me. Just wouldn't feel the same.
Why do KOTOR "fans" on the *chans get so mad about the exile being a woman?
Because she's only ever a woman in the worst pieces of KotOR media, and secondly some of the worst pieces of Star Wars media.
KOTOR 2 was way better than KOTOR.
Exile wasn't a female in 2.
See
>implying that commissioned artwork overrdes the actual canon story
lol
Weird since the Revan novel and ToR, the only 2 pieces of media where Meetra Surik exists don't consider 2 actually canon since it misunderstands it so hard that it butchers it out of spite.
>star wars novels
>canon
>ever
lmao I bet you think Chewbacca is dead
So now Meetra doesn't exist? So my point still stands. Exile is male, Obsidian clearly marketed the game to be played as a male.
Why would you want Chewbacca to be alive to witness the sequels?
Cast Kreia.
Hard mode: Exile is female
Why would Exile being female have an impact on casting Kreia?
Anyway, Emma Thompson.
Susan Sarandon
Joe Taslim from the Raid whose talents were wasted on The Force Awakens.
She'd make a good Atris.
Carrie Ann Moss
This is soulpatch man modded to have a mullet and a beard.
This is canon Revan.
There is no canon Revan. The only Revan ever canonized was TOR for a while, then that stopped being canon... And by the way it was mulleman with a beard. Otherwise, there is no canon Revan. People need to stop arguing moronic shit.
>There is no canon Revan
>it was mulleman with a beard
You've discredited yourself.
More like you've show you're an illiterate Black person who can't read. So no u actually.
Ad hom from a sad, wrong little man. Nothing more to be said. I claim victory.
Black folk can't claim victory.
Good thing I'm not only not a Black person, but I have better taste. I once more claim victory.
Yep, I'm thinking that's Revan. Needs that scar though.
Yeah, I'll prefer to think Bastila ended up with this chad instead of David Schwimmer with locks.
Rate my KoTOR Cast
Pretty based, but Keanu Revan is reddit at this point. Very good picks for Carth, Jolee Saul and Davik.
I'd change Canderous for
and perhaps get somebody better for Gadon.
6/10
Canadian actress Sarah Gadon was born to play Gadon.
how old should live action Revan be? late 30s to mid 40s I guess?
this dude seems the best fit. his hairstyle would adapt to each major story beat
That range would make sense, given that he already had an entire war general and sith lord career under his belt at the start of Kotor, yet still young enough to do action scenes and not look shit at it.
Keanu is too old to play Revan even if he is an absolute perfect fit
Here's your Exile
Awww sweet, another Clown Wars guy thread.
Black female